Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user)

2011-11-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 13/11/2011 02:54, masayoshi wrote:
 I must adduser Ayumi as normal user.
 After adding her in jail, I add her in host.
 Then I type the following command:
 
 # ln -s /usr/jails/www/home/ayumi  /home
 
 When she logins, she is in /usr/jails/www/home/ayumi.
 But if she uses cd command, she can move directory.
 
 I would like to keep her in jail because she is reckless.
 I would like to know how to login to my jail as normal user from host itself 
 when login prompt appear.
 If possible, could you tell me how to do it?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 

I assume simply using a restricted shell like rbash is unsuitable?   And
that you cannot simply give your user an unprivileged login account --
without root access, while they may be able to chdir around the system,
there's not much damage they can do accidentally.  (Although users are
endlessly inventive when it comes to breaking things...)

When you say 'login' do you mean at the console?  That's going to be
fairly tricky to enforce.  However if you mean logging in over the net
by eg. ssh then to confine the user to a jail is pretty easy. Enable
sshd in the jail -- usually this means configuring sshd the host to bind
to specific IP numbers rather than '*'.  See jail(8) for more details.
Then you give the user a working login and password in the jail and not
on the host system.  Either delete the account in the host or set the
login shell to /sbin/nologin and lock the password.

Now, if you want to support console based logins direct to a jail.  As
far as I know, this is not possible with the FreeBSD console.  It would
be a really cool thing to be able to do though.  Dedicate one of the
console vty's to the jail...  Unfortunately I don't think that's going
to be impossible without code changes to the OS.  The problem is init(8)
-- the master process on the system, and the process that controls each
of the getty(8) programs that watch for login attempts on the various
terminals -- that program would require modification so that it knew how
to associate a particular vty with a jail, and then manage the login
process to create a new login session within the jail.

About the only way I can think of doing this for a console login is to
use X and set up xdm(8) to enable its remote login capability, in which
case you get a pull-down on the login screen to allow you to choose
which host to log into.  But I've never tried to set up a system like
this, so I can't really say if its possible or not.  My educated guess
is that it should work, but it's quite an ambitious project for a beginner.

It would be nice if you could just force the login process on the host
to run something like 'jexec -U $USER 1 /bin/tcsh' but that's a command
you need root privilege for, so scratch that.  Also, it's pretty dodgy
to assume that the jail you want is always going to be running with JID=1.

If you can rely on your user to follow instructions, then you can just
tell them to 'ssh jailhost' immediately they login to the host, and set
up sshd in the jail as described above.  This means they will have to
have a working login on the host system, but you can make that be an
unprivileged account without root access or access to anything else
sensitive.  Their account in the jail can have root there, no problem.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now)

2011-11-13 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:25:15 -0500
Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:38:29 -0500
 Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote:
  
  No, it seems that there's a severe level of brokenness that has
  been introduced into the source tree with regards to CD devices.
  I've been exploring this issue on my own system the last couple of
  days, and am no closer to arriving at a solution than when I first
  started.
  
  None of the CD-related apps I have installed are working.  cdcontrol
  will read an audio CD OK, it seems, but playback is useless, since,
  like most newer machines, I have no direct connection between the CD
  drive and the audio device.
  
  Apps such as kscd, xmcd, etc. report no disc or no device found.
  grip (using cdparanoia) will detect an audio disc and even fetch the
  correct cddb info, but ripping fails completely.  xmms reports no
  appropriate ioctl for device.
  
  This is progress?
 
 OK, I've made a little headway here.  At least, I've managed to get
 cdrtools to work once again, after rebuilding/installing the port and
 setting the default device to the SCSI address (1,0,0) of cd0 instead
 of the device name.  Grip is now working with cdda2wav.
 Hallelujah!  :-)
 
 Still can't seem to get plain old audio CD playback working with
 anything, though.  :-(
 

Ah-ha!  After plowing through a ton of ports and docs tonight, I
finally had a Eureka! moment.

It seems that it's quite possible to fashion a poor man's CD player
app (script) out of the following cdda2wav command options (got this
example from the man page):

cdda2wav -q -e -t4 -d0 -N

In this case, -t4 means to play track 4.  Using -B instead, would
play the whole disc.

The command simply sends the data to the soundcard (/dev/dsp) as it's
being ripped.  In combination with a few other cdda2wav options to
obtain the CDDB info for the disc, one could fairly easily whip up a
little CD player script.

I'm a man on a mission now!  :-)  I *will* be rolling up my sleeves
and hacking together some shell code in the days to come.  May even
wind up submitting the finished product as a new port for the benefit
of other folks out there still struggling to play their CDs since the
CD infrastructure changed not too long ago.

Light!  I see light at the end of the tunnel!  :-)

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Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user)

2011-11-13 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello.

2011/11/13 09:23:57 + Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk = 
To masayoshi :
MS On 13/11/2011 02:54, masayoshi wrote:
MS  I would like to keep her in jail because she is reckless.

Wow!

MS Now, if you want to support console based logins direct to a jail.  As
MS far as I know, this is not possible with the FreeBSD console.  It would
MS be a really cool thing to be able to do though.  Dedicate one of the
MS console vty's to the jail...  Unfortunately I don't think that's going
MS to be impossible without code changes to the OS.  The problem is init(8)
MS -- the master process on the system, and the process that controls each
MS of the getty(8) programs that watch for login attempts on the various
MS terminals -- that program would require modification so that it knew how
MS to associate a particular vty with a jail, and then manage the login
MS process to create a new login session within the jail.

I'd find it obvious to try to launch getty by mean of jexec by setting the 
command in /etc/ttys?

Something like that:

ttyv0   /usr/sbin/jexec `cat /var/run/some_jail.id` /usr/libexec/getty Pc 
cons25  on  secure

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Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now)

2011-11-13 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:44:56 -0600
Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:

 On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:25:15 -0500
 Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote:
 
  On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:38:29 -0500
  Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote:
   
   No, it seems that there's a severe level of brokenness that has
   been introduced into the source tree with regards to CD devices.
   I've been exploring this issue on my own system the last couple of
   days, and am no closer to arriving at a solution than when I first
   started.
   
   None of the CD-related apps I have installed are working.
   cdcontrol will read an audio CD OK, it seems, but playback is
   useless, since, like most newer machines, I have no direct
   connection between the CD drive and the audio device.
   
   Apps such as kscd, xmcd, etc. report no disc or no device found.
   grip (using cdparanoia) will detect an audio disc and even fetch
   the correct cddb info, but ripping fails completely.  xmms
   reports no appropriate ioctl for device.
   
   This is progress?
  
  OK, I've made a little headway here.  At least, I've managed to get
  cdrtools to work once again, after rebuilding/installing the port
  and setting the default device to the SCSI address (1,0,0) of cd0
  instead of the device name.  Grip is now working with cdda2wav.
  Hallelujah!  :-)
  
  Still can't seem to get plain old audio CD playback working with
  anything, though.  :-(
  
 
 Ah-ha!  After plowing through a ton of ports and docs tonight, I
 finally had a Eureka! moment.
 
 It seems that it's quite possible to fashion a poor man's CD player
 app (script) out of the following cdda2wav command options (got this
 example from the man page):
 
 cdda2wav -q -e -t4 -d0 -N
 
 In this case, -t4 means to play track 4.  Using -B instead, would
 play the whole disc.
 
 The command simply sends the data to the soundcard (/dev/dsp) as it's
 being ripped.  In combination with a few other cdda2wav options to
 obtain the CDDB info for the disc, one could fairly easily whip up a
 little CD player script.
 
 I'm a man on a mission now!  :-)  I *will* be rolling up my sleeves
 and hacking together some shell code in the days to come.  May even
 wind up submitting the finished product as a new port for the benefit
 of other folks out there still struggling to play their CDs since the
 CD infrastructure changed not too long ago.
 
 Light!  I see light at the end of the tunnel!  :-)


I applaud your enthusiasm. I actually tend to try and reinvent the wheel
from time to time myself. Not so much because I feel the wheel has an
inherent flaw but rather because I just like a good challenge. While
such endeavors might prove useful from strictly a theoretical research
point of view, in practice they can seriously reduce productivity.

I often wonder what happened to the premise that computers should make
man's life easier, not harder. Why should users be force to go to these
extremes to just play an audio CD when other OSs all ready have that
capability sans ruminating for such a simple task.

Again, good luck. I won't be partaking of your research since I have
other PCs near me that are fully capable of preforming the relatively
simple task of playing an audio CD. However, if you do get some free
time perhaps you could invest it in some really socially advantageous
work such as find a cure for cancer. Now that would be something that
all could appreciate.

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Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now)

2011-11-13 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello.

2011/11/13 07:41:27 -0500 Jerry je...@seibercom.net = To FreeBSD :
J I often wonder what happened to the premise that computers should make
J man's life easier, not harder. Why should users be force to go to these

But probably it's easier to plug the wire from cd drive to a sound card?
That way one should get a mixer's separate CD volume regulator at no cost...

But sure this makes impossible the any processing like this:

cdda2wav args | tee /some/file  /dev/dsp

Either way has its advantages and drawbacks.

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Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user)

2011-11-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 13/11/2011 12:31, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
 I'd find it obvious to try to launch getty by mean of jexec by setting the 
 command in /etc/ttys?
 
 Something like that:
 
 ttyv0   /usr/sbin/jexec `cat /var/run/some_jail.id` /usr/libexec/getty 
 Pc cons25  on  secure
 

That might work.  Needs testing though -- when someone logs in does init
in the host system recognize that the jailed login has taken over the
vty from the jail?  Or does it just keep spawning new getty processes?

Lets see...

lucid-nonsense:/etc:# diff -u ttys.save ttys
--- ttys.save   2011-11-13 12:49:28.868350588 +
+++ ttys2011-11-13 12:50:10.609176357 +
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@
 ttyv4  /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
 ttyv5  /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
 ttyv6  /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
-ttyv7  /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
+ttyv7  /usr/sbin/jexec 1 /usr/libexec/getty Pc   cons25  on  
secure
 ttyv8  /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure
 # Serial terminals
 # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.

lucid-nonsense:/etc:# kill -HUP 1
lucid-nonsense:/etc:# jexec 1 ps -ax | grep getty
22182  v7  Is+J   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7

Looking good so far...

fx Wanders into the other room and logs in on the console -- vty7,
which identifies itself as the jail.

lucid-nonsense:/etc:# ps -auxwww | grep v7
root   22182  0.0  0.0 21700  1676  v7  IsJ  12:50PM   0:00.06 login
[pam] (login)
matthew22293  0.0  0.0 10312  2524  v7  IJ   12:53PM   0:00.07 -tcsh
(tcsh)
matthew22299  0.0  0.0  9372  1668  v7  S+J  12:53PM   0:00.11 top
root   22362  0.0  0.0  9124  1192   1  S+   12:56PM   0:00.00 grep v7

Seems to work nicely.  Now, does logout work properly?

fxLogs out of the jail

lucid-nonsense:/etc:# ps -auxwww | grep v7
root   22390  0.0  0.0  6916  1028  v7  Is+J 12:59PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7

Yep.  All works nicely.  That's really cool.

Definitely needs care to make sure the jail ID matches up to the
intended jail.  Using m...@freebsd.org's updated jail init stuff from the
sysutils/jailrc port and enabling persistent jails probably the way to
go there.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Default Samba port?

2011-11-13 Thread Peter Harrison
Hello list,

Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the handbook 
refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. This is for a 
home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production standard, but 
something that just works on RELEASE-8.2 amd64.

Thanks,




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Re: Default Samba port?

2011-11-13 Thread pete wright
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Peter Harrison
four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello list,

 Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the handbook 
 refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. This is for a 
 home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production standard, but 
 something that just works on RELEASE-8.2 amd64.


your best bet may be to install a prebuilt package via:
pgk_add -r samba

that is unless you need some non-standard knobs tuned.

-pete


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Re: Default Samba port?

2011-11-13 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Peter Harrison
four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the handbook 
 refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. This is for a 
 home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production standard, but 
 something that just works on RELEASE-8.2 amd64.

samba36 is the current stable version.  The other two are kept for
legacy compatibility.  35 and 34 are the last version in those
branches.  Don't worry about them.  The handbook has not been updated
for two major revisions of samba.

This is a comment for the others on the list, not directly at you:
maybe ports like this should have a directory samba that always points
to the most recent stable version.  Then the handbook would not need
to be updated to reflect version changes like this.  It would only
need to be updated if the actual instructions change or become
outdated?
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Re: apps to display cpu temp

2011-11-13 Thread Joshua Isom

On 11/12/2011 8:02 PM, Polytropon wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:19:57 -0800, Edward Martinez wrote:

Hi,


   I have a Pentium 4 and i  have  been trying to  get  coretemp and
sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature to display  my Cpu temperture ,
however i have not had any luck using them
Are there any other apps  perhaps from ports that reports CPU temp?


I've been using the port xmbmon for that, in
combination with

device smbus
device iicbus
device iicsmb
device iicbb
device iic

in the kernel configuration file - on a Pentium 4
system. I haven't tried the sysctl method, because
xmbmon did work out of the box. :-) You can also
use mbmon for text output.

Here's an example from ~/.xinitrc calling xmbmon:

xmbmon -g 150x100+0+897 \
-tmin 20.0 -tmax 70.0 \
-cmtmb CPU -cltmb blue \
-cmtcpu CS -cltcpu cyan \
-cmtcs SYS -cltcs green \
-vmin 2.0 -vmax 3.0 -cmvc V -clvc red

Depending on the sensor installation of your
particular system, check if the different values
do match the hardware. Maybe check from within
your CMOS setup for reference values.






For amd, I use dev.cpu.0.temperature.  For some reason, it's 15 degrees 
off compared to the bios and linux.  I used benchmarks/stress along with 
setting specific frequencies to figure out where linux and where freebsd 
would hit a temperature limit.

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Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now)

2011-11-13 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 10/25/11, Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net wrote:
 Setting these environment variables had no effect on my machine.
 $cdcontrol play 1 still produces drive activity but no sound.  The
 graphical apps I am trying such as Abraca, or MPlayer, still do not seem
 to recognize an audio CD.  Gnome Audio CD Extractor - Sound Juicer -
 still errors with 'No CD-ROM drives found' even though Metallica is in
 the drive.

mplayer needs to be compiled with libcdio to support playing cdda://  cddb://

Then you only need to give -cdrom-device argument to mplayer. But you
do not need that,
something like this will work just fine (from mplayer manual page):

mplayer [cdda|cddb]://track[-endtrack][:speed][/device] [options]
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Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.32 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2011-11-13 Thread David Naylor
Hi,

Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.32 have been uploaded to mediafire [2].  

These packages include the patch (first version) from bug report 27653 
(http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27653).  This fixes logging in for EVE 
Online.  

There is a known UDP related problem with wine (see 
http://markmail.org/message/i7rtfz7uxd5s4fvl for details).  Also, there are 
many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in 
fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users).  

The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on 
installation (if the relevant files are accessable).  Please read the 
installation messages for further information.

Regards,

David
[1] 
  MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.32,1.tbz) = 4e05528f6e26004b4bcd3e1dafb5e821
  MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.32,1.txz) = 7951f88480723aee516fe211ad5a6950
[2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64
[3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh


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Nuovo messaggio

2011-11-13 Thread Dario Bossi
Ciao,
firma anche tu l'appello per il reato di omicidio stradale:
http://omicidiostradale.it/
saluti,
Dario Bossi
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What is current VINET status?

2011-11-13 Thread Eir Nym
I don't see it in NOTES for LINT and amd64/i386 arch, but it's
possible to turn it on. Can I consider that this option is currently
experimental and shouldn't be used critical places?

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Re: What is current VIMAGE status?

2011-11-13 Thread Eir Nym
I'm sorry it's about VIMAGE option.
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On 14 November 2011 02:52, Eir Nym eir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't see it in NOTES for LINT and amd64/i386 arch, but it's
 possible to turn it on. Can I consider that this option is currently
 experimental and shouldn't be used critical places?

 -- Eir Nym

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Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user)

2011-11-13 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 If you can rely on your user to follow instructions, then you
 can just tell them to 'ssh jailhost' immediately they login to
 the host ...

Might it work equally well, and avoid the dependency on following
instructions, to put

  exec ssh jailhost

in this user's .login on the real host?
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Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user)

2011-11-13 Thread masayoshi
- Original Message -

 From: per...@pluto.rain.com per...@pluto.rain.com
 To: m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk
 Cc: rocksta...@y7mail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 3:02 PM
 Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user)
 
 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
 
  If you can rely on your user to follow instructions, then you
  can just tell them to 'ssh jailhost' immediately they login to
  the host ...
 
 Might it work equally well, and avoid the dependency on following
 instructions, to put
 
   exec ssh jailhost
 
 in this user's .login on the real host?


For me, as I am newbie, it is simple,easy,very very cool idea.
Normal user can damage my computer in illegal way.
They want to have root authority without permission.

She might kill even people. 3
Thanks you for your advice.
I can keep her in jail on my host computer.


 


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Re: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1)

2011-11-13 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:51:29AM +, Traiano Welcome wrote:

 Another question worth asking: how much memory/swap does the machine
 have? If FreeBSD runs short of memory, it will start killing
 processes.

 Hi Frank
 
  As follows:
 
  Mem: 96M Active, 286M Inact, 224M Wired, 213M Buf, 1368M Free
  Swap: 4094M Total, 4094M Free
 
 Note that this is FreeBSD system is installed in a Vmware VM. No swap
 partition is configured as I expected the system to run entirely with RAM
 as managed by the Vmware hypervisor and resource management technology.
 Note that this machine is currently doing nothing else other than my
 attempts at make buildworld.
 

Hi Traiano,


That looks OK.

The only other thing I can think of is testing your memory with
sysutils/memtest.

It's unusual for it to die with SIGKILL though. Still it's worth
ruling it out.


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Re: poppler-qt-0.16.7

2011-11-13 Thread n dhert
Hi,

Has anything been done to fix this?
I don't believe it was already done: nothing changed in
/usr/ports/UPDATING, also no instructions for portupgrade yet.
I still get
# pkg_version -VIL=
poppler-qt-0.16.7   !   Comparaison failed
# pkgdb -F
Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted.

(as last week..)

2011/11/7 Koop Mast k...@rainbow-runner.nl

 On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 12:28 +0100, n dhert wrote:
  Some changes where done about poppler-*
  There is an entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about poppler-gtk (which I
  don't
  have), but I do have  poppler-qt (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING) ...
  # pkgdb -F
  gives
  Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
  Skip this for now? [yes]
  To skip it without asking in future, please list it in HOLD_PKGS.
 
  Is there a similar instruction for poppler-qt
  and for  portupgrade  (not postmaster which I don't have) ?
 
  poppler-qt is used here:
  # pkg_info -R poppler-qt-0.16.7
  Information for poppler-qt-0.16.7:
  Required by:
  kdegraphics-3.5.10_9
 

 Oops, I accidently wrote graphics/poppler-qt3 instead of poppler-qt, I
 fix that thanks. The poppler support in kdegraphics3 has been disabled
 so there isn't any problems.

 -Koop


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