Re: Performance and mouse problems
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Albert Shih wrote: After some time, and read new messages ont this mailing list, I find a solution. Deactivate hald deactivate dbus Option AutoAddDevices Off put moused_enable=On in /etc/rc.conf and reboot and everything work fine again. I don't known why by using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald stop /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus stop /etc/rc.d/moused start it's not working It should not be a dbus problem, and some things can benefit from dbus. Try it and see if the problem comes back. FWIW, I thought I suggested this a while back. It is what I run: hal not installed, but moused enabled. When hal is not installed, turning AutoAddDevices off should also not be needed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
prune ports tree?
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Re: prune ports tree?
On 8 June 2012 23:06, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote: Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? yes, but don't do it. the ports tree needs to be complete to be guaranteed to function. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: prune ports tree?
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:39 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? How do you want to understand by parts and not used? The easiest way to not use some part of the ports tree is to remove that part. You can do that by manually deleting the port(s) and even omitting them when updating your ports tree. If you use csup, you can make /etc/sup/ports.sup like this: Don't use ports-all, but only list the categories you want to have updated. This works category-wise. You'll find examples in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile which you can use as a template for your own configuration file. An example of /etc/sup/ports.sup could look like this: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-base ports-accessibility #ports-arabic ports-archivers [ ... list shortened ... ] ports-x11-servers ports-x11-themes ports-x11-toolkits ports-x11-wm Only the listed ports categories will be updated. Then you can add this to /etc/make.conf: SUP=/usr/bin/csup --- SUP_UPDATE= /usr/bin/csup --- SUPFLAGS= -L 2--- SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup --- DOCSUPFILE= /etc/sup/doc.sup DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1 de_DE.ISO8859-1 The important lines are marked with a ---. Now you can do this: # cd /usr/ports # make update and you'll get the latest ports tree _excluding_ what you have already removed. You can also use /usr/ports/.cvsignore to specify the directories csup should ignore; defaults are distfiles and packages. You can list offending ports here. This approach does _not_ work well when using portsnap. From the portsnap.conf manpage: Note that operating with an incomplete ports tree is not supported and may cause unexpected results. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: prune ports tree?
On 8 June 2012 23:21, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:06:39 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? This approach does _not_ work well when using portsnap. From the portsnap.conf manpage: Note that operating with an incomplete ports tree is not supported and may cause unexpected results. Note that the issue of incomplete ports trees has nothing to do with portsnap - it is unsupported no matter how you obtain ports. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time
hi Bill,
afaik, in your case the packets checked twice against the ipfw-rules - once
for the layer2-filtering part and 2nd time for the ip-filtering part.
1st enable filtering on ethernet demux/eth. output frame:
# sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1
then start your fw-script:
# -- sniplet from fw-script -- #
iif=em0
ip_client=192.168.123.45
ether_client=88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd
ether_broadcast=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
${fwcmd} add 10 pass MAC ${ether_broadcast} ${ether_client} via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 20 pass MAC any ${ether_client} via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 21 pass MAC ${ether_client} any via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 30 pass ip from ${ip_client} to any via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 31 pass ip from any to ${ip_client} via ${iif}
# -- sniplet from fw-script -- #
this results in:
# ipfw show
00010 128 allow ip from any to any MAC ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff \
88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0
00020 74 9564 allow ip from any to any MAC any 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0
00021 87 85336 allow ip from any to any MAC 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd any via em0
00030 74 9564 allow ip from 192.168.123.45 to any via em0
00031 86 85290 allow ip from any to 192.168.123.45 via em0
65535 487 35078 deny ip from any to any
Most of this logic is described in the section PACKET FLOW section in man
ipfw.
Note that as packets flow through the stack, headers can be stripped or
added to it, and so they may or may not be available for inspection.
E.g., incoming packets will include the MAC header when ipfw is invoked
from ether_demux(), but the same packets will have the MAC header
stripped off when ipfw is invoked from ip_input() or ip6_input().
Cheers
ch
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Bill Yuan wrote:
rule like below
#allow the traffic which source mac is belong to the machine
ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC MAC ADDR1 any
#allow the .. destination mac is that machine
ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any MAC ADDR1
ipfw add 1 deny all from any to any
it is not working , all the traffic will be block by the deny !!! how come
?
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Lowell Gilbert
freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
Bill Yuan byc...@gmail.com writes:
i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic
by the mac and the ip at the same time,
for example, i only allow my laptop MAC Address 1 can go throught the
firewalll when it's using IP IP Address 1
for how to config the firewall rules?
I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt
work
ipfw add 1 allow all from IP Address 1 to any MAC MAC Address 1
any ipfw add 1 allow all from any to IP Address 1 MAC any MAC
Address
1
Well, for one thing if I understand your intent, you have the MAC
addresses in the wrong order. Unless your firewall is acting as a
bridge, you also need to keep in mind that the MAC addresses are changed
when passing through, so those rules will only work on one side (i.e.,
you'll need in via type rules).
but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone
already asked this question before.
I don't understand. Was there a suggested approach or not?
but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone tell
me
how ? thanks in advance.
I can't guarantee this will work, and I don't have any way to test it,
but my above comments would suggest something more like:
ipfw add 1 allow all from IP Address 1 to any MAC any MAC Address
in via $iif
ipfw add 1 allow all from any to IP Address 1 MAC MAC Address 1
any out via $oif
Good luck.
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Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software
Dear FreeBSD Team, Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the best system for us, small IT staff. Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following .iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso And when I tried to install it I have nothing I did it many times, but have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed successfully. Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? Thanks and Best regards, Denis. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Denis Guzanov guzanov...@gmail.com wrote: Dear FreeBSD Team, Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the best system for us, small IT staff. Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following .iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso And when I tried to install it I have nothing I did it many times, but have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed successfully. Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? Thanks and Best regards, Denis. From your question , it is not possible to understand which 8.3 version is used . It is very unlikely that 9.0 fails completely but 8.3 succeeds completely . ia64 is for Itanium 64 processor , amd64 is Intel and AMD 64-bit capable desktop or notebook processors . They are different processors , and one can not execute code for the other . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value?
I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? less? Thanks, Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to filter network by MAC and IP at the same time
Thanks very much,
According to your description , I changed my firewall settings ,
(
Because I already tried add the via em0 or via em1, it's not working,
so I remove it ,
my FreeBSD is WAN is em0 ,LAN is em1
)
and made it like this below
and I still cannot download things through it , and i found the result
Seems some place still not working properly , the traffic has been block by
some reason!
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Christian Hiris 4...@chello.at wrote:
hi Bill,
afaik, in your case the packets checked twice against the ipfw-rules - once
for the layer2-filtering part and 2nd time for the ip-filtering part.
1st enable filtering on ethernet demux/eth. output frame:
# sysctl net.link.ether.ipfw=1
then start your fw-script:
# -- sniplet from fw-script -- #
iif=em0
ip_client=192.168.123.45
ether_client=88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd
ether_broadcast=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
${fwcmd} add 10 pass MAC ${ether_broadcast} ${ether_client} via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 20 pass MAC any ${ether_client} via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 21 pass MAC ${ether_client} any via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 30 pass ip from ${ip_client} to any via ${iif}
${fwcmd} add 31 pass ip from any to ${ip_client} via ${iif}
# -- sniplet from fw-script -- #
this results in:
# ipfw show
00010 128 allow ip from any to any MAC ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff \
88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0
00020 74 9564 allow ip from any to any MAC any 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd via em0
00021 87 85336 allow ip from any to any MAC 88:99:aa:bb:cc:dd any via em0
00030 74 9564 allow ip from 192.168.123.45 to any via em0
00031 86 85290 allow ip from any to 192.168.123.45 via em0
65535 487 35078 deny ip from any to any
Most of this logic is described in the section PACKET FLOW section in man
ipfw.
Note that as packets flow through the stack, headers can be stripped or
added to it, and so they may or may not be available for inspection.
E.g., incoming packets will include the MAC header when ipfw is invoked
from ether_demux(), but the same packets will have the MAC header
stripped off when ipfw is invoked from ip_input() or ip6_input().
Cheers
ch
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Bill Yuan wrote:
rule like below
#allow the traffic which source mac is belong to the machine
ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC MAC ADDR1 any
#allow the .. destination mac is that machine
ipfw add 1 allow all from any to any MAC any MAC ADDR1
ipfw add 1 deny all from any to any
it is not working , all the traffic will be block by the deny !!! how
come
?
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Lowell Gilbert
freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
Bill Yuan byc...@gmail.com writes:
i am using freebsd 9.0 as a firewall and i want to filter the traffic
by the mac and the ip at the same time,
for example, i only allow my laptop MAC Address 1 can go throught
the
firewalll when it's using IP IP Address 1
for how to config the firewall rules?
I tried to configure the firewall by the rule below , but it doesnt
work
ipfw add 1 allow all from IP Address 1 to any MAC MAC Address 1
any ipfw add 1 allow all from any to IP Address 1 MAC any MAC
Address
1
Well, for one thing if I understand your intent, you have the MAC
addresses in the wrong order. Unless your firewall is acting as a
bridge, you also need to keep in mind that the MAC addresses are
changed
when passing through, so those rules will only work on one side (i.e.,
you'll need in via type rules).
but it doesnt work. also found the explanation on google, someone
already asked this question before.
I don't understand. Was there a suggested approach or not?
but I did not find the solution for this requirement. can someone
tell
me
how ? thanks in advance.
I can't guarantee this will work, and I don't have any way to test it,
but my above comments would suggest something more like:
ipfw add 1 allow all from IP Address 1 to any MAC any MAC
Address
in via $iif
ipfw add 1 allow all from any to IP Address 1 MAC MAC Address
1
any out via $oif
Good luck.
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Re: wired memory - again!
http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/31801/what-is-in-wired-memory On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 09:21:35AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: top reports wired memory 128MB WHERE it is used? below results of vmstat -m and vmstat -z values does not sum up even to half of it FreeBSD 9 - few days old. ___ freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Colin Barnabas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value?
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote: I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? less? You may find this solution cheesy, but it works. I found the problem to be /var/db, and ran into it when doing a pkg_add -r for a package with a lot of dependencies. Some things - like freebsd-update - are configurable to use a different dir without this nonsense. - M pvpn 206 ls -l /var/db total 228 -- 1 root wheel990 May 11 03:03 dhclient.leases.vr0 drwx-- 2 operator operator 512 Jun 9 16:33 entropy lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 37 May 11 02:32 freebsd-update - ../../usr/local/var/db/freebsd-update drwx-- 2 root wheel512 Apr 9 21:10 ipf -r--r--r-- 1 nobodywheel 183727 Jun 9 04:15 locate.database -rw--- 1 root wheel 40790 May 16 20:05 mergemaster.mtree lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 May 11 02:32 pkg - ../../usr/local/var/db/pkg lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 28 May 11 02:32 ports - ../../usr/local/var/db/ports lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 31 May 11 02:32 portsnap - ../../usr/local/var/db/portsnap drwx-- 3 root wheel512 May 21 20:54 sudo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problems with portupgrade libreoffice
FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the following modules: vcl framework sfx2 tail_build Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it completed successfully. When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth. Q1) Is this a sensible approach? Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:42:37PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net wrote: Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's an overgrown ugly mess. We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware and run a free (or in the case of Linux apparently free) OS on free hardware. There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good riddance! You have no idea what you're talking about. This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor helpful. It should be noted that your tone is neither constructive nor helpful, to say nothing of your contentless response. Do you have anything useful to say in response to what Dave U. Random contributed -- perhaps a thoughtful refutation of some specific point(s)? I hope you have more of value to contribute than your obvious disdain for people who disagree with you about something (without even specifying on what points you disagree). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice
On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the following modules: vcl framework sfx2 tail_build Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it completed successfully. When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth. Q1) Is this a sensible approach? Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them. I did this and it worked for me. -- Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: prune ports tree?
Gary Aitken wrote: Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? Yes. Although as others pointed out it depend quite what you mean by that :-) Example setenv DUDS SomeEndPortToSkip_eg_ghostview One could also do setenv DUDS `printenv DUDS` vietnamese chinese ; make fetch if for instance you wanted to fetch most but not all distiles It prevents a recusion into SUBDIR (either into the 30 main ports/ dirs, or the 20,000+ 2nd level dirs. How I find DUDS useful: When I do an upgrade, I copy (using my shell http://berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise ) about 30 Makefile.local from my personal preference directory http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/jhs/ into /usr/ports/*/Makefile.local Then I let loose a monstrous make with something like cd /usr/ports ;\ nice make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES \ all install package package-recursive ; bell that takes days always breaks a few times on route, ( using make -k or make -i is a bad idea, as it messes upports that other ports then think are built, but are not - so I avoid -i -k ) Sometimes I dont have time to immediately analyse each breakage, just want topush the compiles on, come back later to debug broken faults, so I then use (with csh setenv DUDS whatever_port_just_broke `printenv DUDS` start the make again. (PS later after most stuff is build I start the truly monster builds eg openoffice etc with eg nice make BERKLIX_AMBITIOUS=YES \ all install package package-recursive ; bell # http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.sh/bell ) For DUDS other ideas See: vi -c/DUDS /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software
Hi, Reference: From: Denis Guzanov guzanov...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:45:54 +0400 Message-id: CAMUH=P1HGivtRUsgSz9_XYt-wLBh-8cFvq=i5fs6hn1ittk...@mail.gmail.com Denis Guzanov wrote: Dear FreeBSD Team, Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the best system for us, small IT staff. Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso did you check the MD5 ? And when I tried to install it I have nothing You'll need to be more specific. I did it many times, but have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed successfully. Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? Thanks and Best regards, Denis. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how?
On 06/09/12 00:58, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: Ronald F. Guilmette writes: I got a lot of disks here, so that part is not a problem. I just need to make sure that I'm gonna do this the Right Way[tm]. (I've already been making my own ham-fisted disk-to-disk backups in the past, but I'm sure that the way I have been doing that is sub-optimal, so I'm here seeking knowledge of how to do this the Right Way.) The bottom line is this... I know how to use cpio, and would like to use it to create a complete and _bootable_ backup of my main system disk. (My main system disk has only one BIOS partition, and that is sub-divided into the usual set of FreeBSD partitions, you know, /, /dev, /tmp, /usr, /var, /usr/compat/linux/proc, and /var/named/dev.) As far as I know, the only way guaranteed to preserve metadata is dump/restore. See previous (not necessarily recent) discussion (on this list, and possibly in the Handbook) for more information. The rsync port has a flags option. I haven't tried it for a full backup. Even if it can copy all filesystem attributes like dump, there are still non-filesystem things needed for booting that neither can copy, like partition tables and boot blocks. There's a BFI (brute force and ignorance) way of doing it in the base system - dd. Provided your system disk is quiescent (ideally when running from a live CD or all partitions mounted read-only, otherwise pray to the deity of your choice) and the backup disk is a) at least as large as the system disk, and b) has the same sector size, then a simple dd from the system disk to the backup should work. [Greybeard war story:] Going back about 25-30 years, a friend of mine was responsible for running the Unix systems in an EE department of a UK university. He used to back up the disks (probably around 10 MB in those days) to 1/2 tape every night. Eventually he got sick of undergraduates asking him to restore files they'd accidentally deleted, and hit upon the idea of dd'ing the disk to tape, and then if a student wanted a restore, he'd mount the tape as a r/o file system (these were the days of tape block devices and trusting all users) and tell them to use restore to get the files themselves. It took forever, but it was the student's time that was wasted, not his. Most of them learned not to delete wanted files after one or two times of doing this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvsup of RELENG_8_1
Jim Nasby j...@nasby.net writes: I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1: TreeList failed: Error in /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1: 13890: Could not parse status record. Delete it and try again. Have you tried deleting /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1 and retrying cvsup? I realize that 8.1 isn't formally supported anymore, but should cvsup still work? I can't upgrade right now because of the conflict between GPT and gmirror what was introduced in 8.2. Right. This isn't version-related. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvsup of RELENG_8_1
On 6/9/12 2:43 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jim Nasbyj...@nasby.net writes: I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1: TreeList failed: Error in /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1: 13890: Could not parse status record. Delete it and try again. Have you tried deleting /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1 and retrying cvsup? Somehow I got it in my head that that was a file living on the cvsup server and not locally. After deleting that file all is good. Thanks for your help! -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect j...@nasby.net 512.569.9461 (cell) http://jim.nasby.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work)
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:58:25 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-06-09 00:10, Walter Hurry skrev: On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:58:49 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-06-08 17:51, Walter Hurry skrev: On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +, Walter Hurry wrote: Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man rc.conf. moused_port. You also have moused_flags=Put your flags here That does not help, not me anyway. Indeed you do. But I didn't need moused_flags (nor moused_type) - just moused_port. I was then able to restore /etc/rc.d/moused to its pristine state. That would be moused_flags=-p /dev/sysmouse Ah, good point. As ever, there's always more than one way to skin a cat. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:12:25 +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the following modules: vcl framework sfx2 tail_build Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it completed successfully. When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth. Q1) Is this a sensible approach? Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them. I did this and it worked for me. Thanks. I'll try that and report back. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[ANN] tperimeter 1.113 Released And Available
'tperimeter' Version 1.113 is released and available at:
http://www.tundraware.com/Software/tperimeter/
The last public release was 1.112
What's New
--
Changed the wrapper file rebuild logic to delete outstanding access
requests independently of how often the script is run (either by
cron, or manually). This means that the 'cron' frequency now
determines the average waiting time before a user's request is
fulfilled. The '${DURATION}' variable in 'rebuild-hosts.allow.sh'
sets how long access will be permitted (The default value is 10
minutes).
Minor documentation updates, typo fixes, and housekeeping.
What Is 'tperimeter'?
-
Have you ever been away from the office and needed, say, ssh access to
your system? Ooops - you can't do that because in your zealous pursuit
of security, you set your TCP wrappers to prevent outside access to all
but a select group of hosts. Worse still, everywhere you go, your local
IP address changes so there is no practical way to open up the wrappers
for this situation.
'tperimeter' is a dynamic TCP wrapper control system that gives you
(limited) remote control of your TCP wrapper configuration. It does this
via a web interface that you've (hopefully) secured with https/SSL. You
just log in, specify your current IP address and one of the services you
want to access. 'tperimeter' will then briefly open a hole in your
wrappers long enough to let you in. It then automatically closes the
hole again. Voila! Remote access to your system, wherever you are. You
get much of the facility of a VPN or so-called port knocking without
most of the aggravation. As a side benefit, 'tperimeter' will also
simplify management of your standard /etc/hosts.allow TCP wrapper
control file.
'tperimeter' is written in python, shell script, and html. It is very
small and easy to maintain. It was developed and tested on FreeBSD 4.x/8.x,
and apache 1.x/2.x, but should run with very minor (or no) modification on
most Unix-like systems like Linux or Mac OS X hosts. It comes complete
with documentation in html, pdf, dvi, and Postscript formats. There is
no licensing fee for any use, personal, commercial, government,
or institutional.
--
Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
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Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value?
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 Gary Aitken wrote: I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? less? portsnap needs roughly one file per port plus one for each out of date port during a fetch. There are 23658 ports. In FreeBSD 9 the fragment size increased, halving the default number of inodes. With only 32k inodes it's possible to run out with portsnap alone. You can probably get away with the old default of 64k (-i 8192), or perhaps 128k (-i 4096). Check how many files you have outside of portsnap and do the arithmetic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value?
On 9 June 2012 18:38, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 Gary Aitken wrote: I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? less? portsnap needs roughly one file per port plus one for each out of date port during a fetch. There are 23658 ports. In FreeBSD 9 the fragment size increased, halving the default number of inodes. With only 32k inodes it's possible to run out with portsnap alone. You can probably get away with the old default of 64k (-i 8192), or perhaps 128k (-i 4096). Check how many files you have outside of portsnap and do the arithmetic. Or, move the portsnap tree to somewhere other than /var (see /etc/portsnap.conf for that such). I think that a file-backed md* mounted only when portsnap was in use would save on inodes, yeah? *I guess mdmfs(8) is the jawns y'all use nowadays, yo? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On 9 Jun 2012, at 18:48, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:42:37PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:52, Dave U. Random anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net wrote: Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's an overgrown ugly mess. We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware and run a free (or in the case of Linux apparently free) OS on free hardware. There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good riddance! You have no idea what you're talking about. This kind of religious propaganda post is neither constructive nor helpful. It should be noted that your tone is neither constructive nor helpful, to say nothing of your contentless response. Do you have anything useful to say in response to what Dave U. Random contributed -- perhaps a thoughtful refutation of some specific point(s)? I hope you have more of value to contribute than your obvious disdain for people who disagree with you about something (without even specifying on what points you disagree). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] If you had bothered to read all the other mails I've posted on this very specific thread, you wouldn't need to ask the question. If you're going to participate in the Linux zealots' propaganda that makes OSS defenders sound so ridiculous and delusional, so be it. Fact is, if Microsoft didn't deliver acceptable products, people wouldn't use them. Calling them a mafia is neither constructive (I invite you to look up the word mafia in a thesaurus), nor backed up by actual facts. OP is just going on a rampage about MS and intel. You want to follow his advice and advocate the exclusive use of alpha machines ? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. No, I'm not gonna use alphas. And no, I'm not going to let a random person (hey, choice words !) call intel or MS a mafia just because he's on a zealot crusade. You might want to take a minute to consider the contributions of both to computing. Without MS (and IBM amongst others) it's possible that computing would never have reached such an audience as it has. So I'm going with the (possibly false) assumption that without MS and other major actors, not many people would use computers nowadays. All this magnificent OSS wouldn't be of much use then. After all, who would need FreeBSD servers to host web sites that had neither visitors nor purpose ? One might see MS as the ultimate evil, yet they're strongly implemented in corporate IT. One might wonder why, before engaging in a crusade, and brandishing empty words as their weapons. I invite you to re-read OP's post and highlight what in mafiaware, wintel and microshaft you find constructive. I also invite you to read all his points about why exactly intel is an overgrown ugly mess. I regret to report I have found none, might you point them out for me ? Now, I shall leave you to read my other posts on this secure boot topic, that you might quit claiming I have nothing to contribute.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how?
In message 4fd38b9a.4010...@qeng-ho.org, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: There's a BFI (brute force and ignorance) way of doing it in the base system - dd. Provided your system disk is quiescent (ideally when running from a live CD or all partitions mounted read-only, otherwise pray to the deity of your choice) and the backup disk is a) at least as large as the system disk, and b) has the same sector size, then a simple dd from the system disk to the backup should work. Thank you Arthur, and yes, trying to back up a partition that's currently mounted r/w using dd will almost certainly not produce the desired results. And of course, as you correctly note also, the target partition had best be at least as big as the source (and perhaps even identical in size). I don't care to take own my system to make backups... and don't believe that I should have to do so, and thus, this is one of the reasons why I would prefer to use something like cpio. Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution or to dump/restore, because as I understand it, with either of these methods you end up copying perhaps a metric buttload worth of unallocated free disk space. (I would prefer not to do that. It just seems wasteful... of time, if nothing else.) Also, in one case, one of my partitions has one directory that contains a really massive amount of stuff, and I specifically _don't_ need any of that particular stuff (in that one directory) backed up. So again, I'm looking at tar or cpio or perhaps pax. (Of course cpio is more full-featured than tar, and I don't really know anything about pax, so that leaves me with cpio.) [Greybeard war story:] Going back about 25-30 years, a friend of mine was responsible for running the Unix systems in an EE department of a UK university. He used to back up the disks (probably around 10 MB in those days) to 1/2 tape every night. Eventually he got sick of undergraduates asking him to restore files they'd accidentally deleted, and hit upon the idea of dd'ing the disk to tape, and then if a student wanted a restore, he'd mount the tape as a r/o file system (these were the days of tape block devices and trusting all users) and tell them to use restore to get the files themselves. It took forever, but it was the student's time that was wasted, not his. Most of them learned not to delete wanted files after one or two times of doing this. My own greybeard story: Back in the late 70s I was in college and had just switched major to CS. My college had a mainframe, but also a PDP-11 to which were connected a number of ASR-33s (Who could ever forget THOSE!) Students who asked could get an account on the PDP-11/RSTS-E system. I did, and started experimenting. I remember one day I really pissed off the specific Computer Center staff member who was assigned to the care feeding of the RSTS-E system when her backup tape started whizzing back and forth for no apparent reason. At least it seemed that way to her, since she had only just mounted the tape and _she_ had not issued any console commands yet which would have caused the tape drive to do anything. :-) Needless to say RSTS-E was, apparently, not quite as sophisticated at that time as, say, UNIX, in terms of protecting physical I/O devices from general Joe-Schmo users. I never became friends with that specific Computer Center staff member, but I did end up as the only CS undergraduate who got a job in the campus Computer Center. Sorry. You talking about tapes just reminded of that incident, way back when. (Sigh. The good old daze when men were men, and the bits ran scared!) Moral of the story is that sometimes it actually does pay to be a smartass. Regards, rfg P.S. It really is a Damn Shame[tm] that nobody ever hacked FreeBSD cpio to make it be able to copy (a) the extra file flag/mode bits and/or (b) file ACLs and/or (c) file attributes. I guess I have found a new project for myself... when/if I ever find some free time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how?
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Also, I don't like backups taking longer than absolutely necessary, and this is why I am specifically _not_ attracted to either the dd solution or to dump/restore, because as I understand it, with either of these methods you end up copying perhaps a metric buttload worth of unallocated free disk space. No, that is one of the biggest advantages of dump over dd. dump knows UFS, and only copies occupied sectors and needed information. That's why it can be restored file-by-file or to a partition of a different size. Also, in one case, one of my partitions has one directory that contains a really massive amount of stuff, and I specifically _don't_ need any of that particular stuff (in that one directory) backed up. So again, I'm looking at tar or cpio or perhaps pax. (Of course cpio is more full-featured than tar, and I don't really know anything about pax, so that leaves me with cpio.) Directories and files can be skipped with the nodump flag. P.S. It really is a Damn Shame[tm] that nobody ever hacked FreeBSD cpio to make it be able to copy (a) the extra file flag/mode bits and/or (b) file ACLs and/or (c) file attributes. A quick search shows dump should support ACLs. The other stuff is also there. Try it. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Chromium Crashes
I have just have built and installed Chromium 19.0.1084.52 from the ports on my amd64 machine - 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 08:40:03 NZDT 2011 Portversion chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 = up-to-date with port On web sites which contains graphics Chromium crashes with the following error: [3152:171983296:14310963010:ERROR:CONSOLE(1)] Uncaught ReferenceError: ntp is not defined, source: (1) Any ideas how to resolve this issue. Glenn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined
Hello, Looks like you have missed out something related to ATA in the kernel configuration file. Can you post your complete kernel config? Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 20-May-2012, at 5:53 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: Hello, what does this boot message means, and where does it come from? link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined linker_load_file: Unsupported file type It appears between between ZFS storage pool version 28 and drm0: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics on vgapci0 uname -a: FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 r235604: Fri May 18 15:49:06 CEST 2012 r...@phenom.cordula.ws: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TIA, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chromium Crashes
Hello, It looks like you have hit a documented bug. See this: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=125447 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=revrevision=141116 Did you try upgrading your ports? Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 10-Jun-2012, at 10:11 AM, The Todds wrote: I have just have built and installed Chromium 19.0.1084.52 from the ports on my amd64 machine - 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 08:40:03 NZDT 2011 Portversion chromium-19.0.1084.52_2 = up-to-date with port On web sites which contains graphics Chromium crashes with the following error: [3152:171983296:14310963010:ERROR:CONSOLE(1)] Uncaught ReferenceError: ntp is not defined, source: (1) Any ideas how to resolve this issue. Glenn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ran out of inodes on /var, recommended value?
On 10-Jun-2012, at 6:13 AM, ill...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 June 2012 18:38, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:22:50 -0600 Gary Aitken wrote: I reconfigured my ssd filesystem with the /var partition of size 512M. Unfortunately, something in portsnap or the ports tree in general uses a boatload of small files, and i ran out of inodes. Can anyone recommend an appropriate size for the newfs -i value? 1024? less? portsnap needs roughly one file per port plus one for each out of date port during a fetch. There are 23658 ports. In FreeBSD 9 the fragment size increased, halving the default number of inodes. With only 32k inodes it's possible to run out with portsnap alone. You can probably get away with the old default of 64k (-i 8192), or perhaps 128k (-i 4096). Check how many files you have outside of portsnap and do the arithmetic. Or, move the portsnap tree to somewhere other than /var (see /etc/portsnap.conf for that such). I think that a file-backed md* mounted only when portsnap was in use would save on inodes, yeah? Actually I think that is a very good idea. That is how I have set up my system as well with one difference. I have tons of memory and use a memory based filesystem to store all the in-compile objects. -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
