Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

read attempts. In worst case, there will be gaps in the
result.



Surely SpinRite is more clever than that, 

i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better
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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar



On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Adam Vande More wrote:


On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:


totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to

2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most



man dd



Even better,

recoverdisk /dev/da0 /dev/da1

true :)
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Questions on ndis for USB wireless adapter

2012-07-16 Thread Thomas Mueller
I am having problems getting the Hiro USB wireless adapter to work and think I 
might possibly be missing something.

Chip is Realtek RTL8191S.

I read the man pages for ndisgen and ndiscvt and the FreeBSD Handbook online.

Do I need 
options NDISAPI   # and
device ndis

in the kernel config, even if I use modules resulting from ndiscvt or ndisgen?

I suppose these wouldn't hurt, I just put them in the kernel configs for i386 
and amd64, awaiting next system rebuild for FreeBSD 9.1-BETA1 or PRERELEASE.

Also, I notice, in addition to the .inf and .sys files, there is a .cat file in 
the MS-Windows drivers:

net8192su.cat   net8192su.inf   rtl8192su.sys

What is the .cat file, is it a firmware driver?

Drivers are included for MS-Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7; all but Win 2000 
include 32-bit and 64-bit.

Tom

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alias_pptp.ko

2012-07-16 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues,

Several PPTP sessions do not work through ipfw nat without loading
the alias_pptp.ko module. How can I compile this functionality (NAT
for PPTP sessions) into the kernel?

The following confuguration:

options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_NAT
options LIBALIAS

is not sufficient, one still has to load alias_pptp.ko as a module. I
could not find the relevant option in the NOTES.

Thank you very much for any input.

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enable modeline in vim

2012-07-16 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues,

Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if
I put set modeline in /root/.vimrc, the output of :set modeline?
still shows nomodeline. At the same time, set modeline in ~/.vimrc
works for all other accounts except root.

Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even
shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this
protection?

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Re: enable modeline in vim

2012-07-16 Thread Виталий Туровец
2012/7/16 Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su:
 Colleagues,

 Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if
 I put set modeline in /root/.vimrc, the output of :set modeline?
 still shows nomodeline. At the same time, set modeline in ~/.vimrc
 works for all other accounts except root.

 Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even
 shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this
 protection?

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In my vimrc i have next:
set modeline
set modelines=3

And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps.


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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jul 15 16:31:45 2012
 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

  totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to
  2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most

 man dd

 conv=sync,noerror

This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade 
tools like Spinrite.

With the settings the resident infallible expert on everything *SNORT* 
recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk sector, going 
through the O/S's device driver code, and write out 'whatever it got', 
regardless of whether or not ane sort of read-error was signalled.  This 
results in GUARANNTEED, *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ 
place where a read error was encountered.  This result can be marginally
acceptable -- for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable'
data on the disk.

'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering =critical=
data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block.


Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely stand-alone,
without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS code.  Spinrite
_directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, can retrieve into 
memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, sector framing, recorded 
ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for analysis, can seek from an inner 
track, read the bits, then seek from an _outer_ track, and do another read.
It can also do things like step the heads 'fractionally' off the track 
center, and read _there_.  By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* 
operations, that are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools
like Spinrite can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged
disks.

Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the I/O
buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on multiple
read passes,  They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the 'prior data'
in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from the disk, and
(c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to the next.  This 
allows such tools to do a much better job of RECONSTRUCTING the actual
data in the 'error' sector(s).


Make a copy, and work only on the copy _is_ good advice for attempting
'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', under an O/S. 
When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, it is time to
bring out the big guns -- things like Spinrite -- which -require-
direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since Spinrite, and similar
tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which is *not* guaranteed if 
there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it _is_ generally safe to let
them access the damaged original.  The problematic situation is where
spinning up the drive causes -more- damage to the media..


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OT - Squid external connections

2012-07-16 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi;

Would anybody know how can I cross-reference squid/Lusca external
connections with LAN hosts?

For example, if I see an http connection on ext_if, is there a way to
find out on behalf of which LAN host squid is making that connection?

Using FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE, pf and Lusca latest port.

I tried to search for a hint but this is really tricky to Google for.

Please forgive me the OT but this list has always been a good first step
for the right directions.

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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT)
Robert Bonomi articulated:

  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jul 15 16:31:45 2012
  Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST)
  From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
  To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
 
   totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector
   up to 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what
   is most
 
  man dd
 
  conv=sync,noerror
 
 This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to
 professional-grade tools like Spinrite.
 
 With the settings the resident infallible expert on everything
 *SNORT* recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk
 sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out
 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of
 read-error was signalled.  This results in GUARANNTEED,
 *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read
 error was encountered.  This result can be marginally acceptable --
 for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on
 the disk.
 
 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering
 =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block.
 
 
 Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely
 stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS
 code.  Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip,
 can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks,
 sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for
 analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from
 an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like
 step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read
 _there_.  By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that
 are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite
 can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks.
 
 Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the
 I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on
 multiple read passes,  They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the
 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from
 the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to
 the next.  This allows such tools to do a much better job of
 RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s).
 
 
 Make a copy, and work only on the copy _is_ good advice for
 attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland',
 under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient,
 it is time to bring out the big guns -- things like Spinrite --
 which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since
 Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which
 is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it
 _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original.  The
 problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more-
 damage to the media..

+1

I use to keep SpinRite on a flash drive that I could easily carry with
me if needed. Of course that would require the machine to be worked on
to have the ability to boot from a flash drive. Unfortunately, not all
of them could. Fortunately, I almost never need an industrial strength
recovery product like SpinRite. It is nice to know it is available if I
do though.

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Re: enable modeline in vim

2012-07-16 Thread Victor Sudakov
Виталий Туровец wrote:
 
  Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if
  I put set modeline in /root/.vimrc, the output of :set modeline?
  still shows nomodeline. At the same time, set modeline in ~/.vimrc
  works for all other accounts except root.
 
  Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even
  shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this
  protection?
 
 In my vimrc i have next:
 set modeline
 set modelines=3
 

As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have:

set modeline
set modelines=5

 And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps.

And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1

Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what.

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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 
  This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to
  professional-grade tools like Spinrite.
 
  With the settings the resident infallible expert on everything
  *SNORT* recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk
  sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out
  'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of
  read-error was signalled.  This results in GUARANNTEED,
  *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read
  error was encountered.  This result can be marginally acceptable --
  for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on
  the disk.
 
  'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering
  =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block.
 
 
  Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely
  stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS
  code.  Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip,
  can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks,
  sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for
  analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from
  an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like
  step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read
  _there_.  By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that
  are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite
  can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks.
 
  Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the
  I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on
  multiple read passes,  They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the
  'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from
  the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to
  the next.  This allows such tools to do a much better job of
  RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s).
 
 
  Make a copy, and work only on the copy _is_ good advice for
  attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland',
  under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient,
  it is time to bring out the big guns -- things like Spinrite --
  which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since
  Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which
  is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it
  _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original.  The
  problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more-
  damage to the media..

 +1

 I use to keep SpinRite on a flash drive that I could easily carry with
 me if needed. Of course that would require the machine to be worked on
 to have the ability to boot from a flash drive. Unfortunately, not all
 of them could. Fortunately, I almost never need an industrial strength
 recovery product like SpinRite. It is nice to know it is available if I
 do though.


SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure
marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years ago.
 It appears I was mistaken.


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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi  
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:



This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade
tools like Spinrite.


I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you?
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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Robison, Dave
On 07/16/2012 10:10, Mark Felder wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi
 bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:

 This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade
 tools like Spinrite.

 I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you?
 ___


Nice ad hominem there. Very impressive. Perhaps we can sink a bit lower
by making some random comments about people's mothers while we're at it.

I've used Spinrite a few times with good results. It does take forever
at times.

I've also used the dd trick with good results.



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how to preserve local modifications to /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf

2012-07-16 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I was getting

 Tex capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size 100]

error, so had to increase main_memory in
/usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf

main_memory = 700 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimfmp

This works fine, but this file
will be overwritten if I update/reinstall
print/teTeX-base.

I was trying to make a local copy instead:

TZAV cat $HOME/.texmf-var/web2c/texmf.cnf 
% refer to /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf,
% installed by teTeX-base-3.0_23: print/teTeX-base
% for details
main_memory = 700 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimfmp
TZAV

but this doesn't help.

Please advise

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LibreOffice with Java?

2012-07-16 Thread Walter Hurry
I note that in the Makefile for libreoffice
(/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/Makefile) it says:

LibreOffice works only with Java 6

But I have Java 7. Is this a problem?

$ java -version
openjdk version 1.7.0_04
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b22)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode)
$

LibreOffice seems to install (from the port) and run OK.
This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64.

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Re: enable modeline in vim

2012-07-16 Thread Patrick
Assuming you've installed vim from the ports tree, /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc 
is the shared vimrc file amongst all users. Have you tried setting it in there? 
 




On Monday, 16 July, 2012 at 09:37 , Victor Sudakov wrote:

 Виталий Туровец wrote:

   Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if
   I put set modeline in /root/.vimrc, the output of :set modeline?
   still shows nomodeline. At the same time, set modeline in ~/.vimrc
   works for all other accounts except root.

   Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even
   shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this
   protection?

   
  In my vimrc i have next:
  set modeline
  set modelines=3
   
  
  
 As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have:
  
 set modeline
 set modelines=5
  
  And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps.
  
 And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1
  
 Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what.
  
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Re: enable modeline in vim

2012-07-16 Thread Victor Sudakov
Patrick wrote:
 
Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if
I put set modeline in /root/.vimrc, the output of :set modeline?
still shows nomodeline. At the same time, set modeline in ~/.vimrc
works for all other accounts except root.
 
Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even
shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this
protection?
 

   In my vimrc i have next:
   set modeline
   set modelines=3

   
   
  As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have:
   
  set modeline
  set modelines=5
   
   And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps.
   
  And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1
   
  Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what.

 Assuming you've installed vim from the ports tree,
 /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc is the shared vimrc file amongst all
 users. Have you tried setting it in there?  

I have finally found the cause of the trouble. There was a 
set nocompatible command in ~/.vimrc after the set modeline
command. According to the documentation, the compatible option
modifies many other options, including the modeline options.

The solution is to put the set nocompatible command at the very 
start of the ~/.vimrc file (as the documentation recommends) or to
remove it altogether.

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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Robert Bonomi
`
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:03:37 -0500
 From: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?


 SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure
 marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years ago.
  It appears I was mistaken.

Everyone has the inalienable right to be wrong.

Far be it from me to attempt to impair your exercise of your rights.`



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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon Jul 16 12:12:47 2012
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:34 -0500
 From: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi  
 bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:

  This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade
  tools like Spinrite.

 I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you?


Homepoathic treatments are extremely effective.





  ... at demonstrating the placebo effect.   *GRIN*


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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Chris Hill

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Adam Vande More wrote:

SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure 
marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years 
ago. It appears I was mistaken.


Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of 
SpinRite. I'd be interested to know if they are all deluded, because 
I've been thinking of buying it.



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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure
marketing gibberish.
maybe you exaggerate but this is what i feel in that discussion. instead 
of help - seemed like marketing.

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