Re: sending fax from commandline/or via appliance
El día Friday, August 24, 2012 a las 05:01:34AM +0200, Frank Reppin escribió: Hi all, is someone aware of a solution which can do the following: 1) given a freebsd host which hosts an application xxABxx 2) this application xxABxx sends an ordinary email with a .ps attachment to another host by mailing it to recipient_fax_number@tld 3) this attachment is then fax'ed to the recipient phone number 4) HylaFAX is not the solution 5) better some cli solution which could feed this .ps via a CLI directly and non-interactive into a multifunction printer (which can do fax ofcourse) Hi, Just curious: We did 1) ... 3) for many years in a production environment with HylaFAX; why this is not a solution for you? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). I cannot figure out how to enter ^[ in rc.conf using keychange or kbdcontrol -f, but after some experimentation it appears keychange does not alter the function keys at a low enough level. (Besides the fact that altering some 50-odd keys with keychange seems like it cannot be the right answer.) Termcap seems to be in order. cons25l1 tc's cons25w, and cons25w seems to have the correct ANSI values for the function keys. So howcome if TERM=cons25l1 is set, the keyboard produces weird xterm-like strings? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /tmp filesystem full
Hi everybody! Thanks for answering my questions and helping me out with this problem. It's been fixed now and I managed to locate the problem with the find / -type d | awk 'length 900' command. What caused it was something that looked like a directory loop or at least a very deep list of sub directories from two old backups of src + kernel compilations that recently got moved to this server from another one (accidentally and in a hurry due to disk failure on the other server). I think I counted 12 full lines in my terminal window for the directory bash path... I deleted them and now it works great again. Thanks again for great help! Best regards, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? In the kernel config there's an option TEKEN_CONS25 which will build the console terminal emulator in CONS25 mode. You'll need a custom kernel of course. I'm curious though - why ? As long as TERM is set correctly anything that uses curses will handle the keyboard and screen correctly. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? I think you will find a hint here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Home_and_End_keys_not_working Btw, in the vi editor you can type a control key into your text file by first typing '^V' followed by the control character desired, e.g. '^V^H' for '^H'. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? In the kernel config there's an option TEKEN_CONS25 which will build the console terminal emulator in CONS25 mode. You'll need a custom kernel of course. I find it really interesting that this change which broke just about every critical application I run was not mentioned in the release notes or UPDATING. I'm curious though - why ? As long as TERM is set correctly anything that uses curses will handle the keyboard and screen correctly. If 9.0 had not broken my most important applications, I wouldn't be asking. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? In the kernel config there's an option TEKEN_CONS25 which will build the console terminal emulator in CONS25 mode. You'll need a custom kernel of course. I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: harware compatibility queustion
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bonomi Sent: 24 August 2012 03:30 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: harware compatibility queustion I need to add more than two' internal SATA _ports_ to a box that will be running FreeBSD 9. When I look at inexpensive SATA controllers, they all seem to be using chipsets thar are _not_ explicitly mentioned in the 'supported hardware' list. Can anyone say, authoritatively, that, say, a 'SiL3114'-based cnntroller card will work in FreeBSD, as far as 'bare drive' functionality goes? Alternatively, can anybody recommend an inexpensive 4-port (or more) SATA controller card that is known to work with FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I have used a SIL3112 card on FreeBSD 7 and 8 which is just a 2 port version of the card you are looking at, as far as I recall it worked with no issues. If you want me to check it with 9.0, I can stick it on the machine that the card currently resides in. Regards Graeme ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:11:19 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? In the kernel config there's an option TEKEN_CONS25 which will build the console terminal emulator in CONS25 mode. You'll need a custom kernel of course. I find it really interesting that this change which broke just about every critical application I run was not mentioned in the release notes or UPDATING. Bizarre - no well written application should break unless of course you have TERM set to something that doesn't match what the terminal does. The whole TERM termcap/terminfo/curses mechanism is designed to support terminal independent applications. I'm curious though - why ? As long as TERM is set correctly anything that uses curses will handle the keyboard and screen correctly. If 9.0 had not broken my most important applications, I wouldn't be asking. Which applications - and are they still broken with the right TERM settings (TERM=xterm) ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is where I found it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:38:38AM +0200, J B wrote: Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? I think you will find a hint here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Home_and_End_keys_not_working it's not much of a hint (it's Linux-specific, and like most of the Arch wiki - not insightful). (other responses in the thread seem to have answered the question) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpL3GAW9IKHM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is where I found it. Grepped /usr/src/sys/conf/* and did not find it. I see from google that something seems to have been added to HEAD and its UPDATING, but there is nothing of the sort in 9.0 RELEASE - p4. I really should have known better by now than to upgrade to a X.0 - perhaps by X.2 or X.3 they will have fix most of the stuff they broke with X.0. Fortunately, I have learned enough to try upgrades on the mirror and not on the production disc. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: EXIF inspector
2012-08-23 19:14, Gary Aitken skrev: On 08/23/12 08:38, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:08 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: For the photo folks -- What do you use for inspecting EXIF data? I've tried exif exiftags exifprobe and none of them show the full compliment of tags present on my oly pen-ep3. In particular, they omit most of the vendor specific stuff, and they seem to display different parts of things, but not everything. I've been using exiv2 (port graphics/exiv2) which fits my needs. Here's an example of its output: % exiv2 cam/img_6842.jpg File name : cam/img_6842.jpg File size : 2887326 Bytes MIME type : image/jpeg Image size : 2816 x 2112 Camera make : Canon Camera model: Canon PowerShot S3 IS Image timestamp : 2011:08:19 09:14:42 Image number: 120-6842 Exposure time : 1/50 s Aperture: F2.7 Exposure bias : 0 EV Flash : No, red-eye reduction Flash bias : 0 EV Focal length: 6.0 mm Subject distance: 68 ISO speed : 100 Exposure mode : Easy shooting (Auto) Metering mode : Multi-segment Macro mode : Off Image quality : Fine Exif Resolution : 2816 x 2112 White balance : Auto Thumbnail : image/jpeg, 5981 Bytes Copyright : Exif comment: See man exiv2 for details. It's a really versatile program which can be excellently integrated into scripts. In case you need more info from a photo file, use the strings utility provided by the system and parse its output. Thanks This is rather weird. I had tried exiv2 and concluded it did not report everything because on a windows system I had previously used PhotoME to ascertain that the image stabilization parameter for my camera was in a field whose tag name was ImageQuality3, and exiv2 does not report anything with uality in it. However, I now see that it does report a string called Exif.OlympusCs.ImageStabilization of the same type with the corresponding value. Strings reports neither tag. That makes sense, since exif tags are numerically encoded and not text, so I don't think strings is particularly useful. Upon further investigation, it appears that the choice of string to print for a tag is probably a translation provided by the program, not the image file. A strings on /usr/local/lib/libexiv2.so.10 shows: Image stabilization ImageStabilization Image Stabilization for the Sony DSLR-A100 Image stabilization data Image Stabilization Data ImageStabilizationData Image Stabilization A100 ImageStabilizationA100 Digital Image Stabilization and also specific tags for different camera manufacturers, e.g. Exif.OlympusCs. etc. bah -- exif doesn't report all the tags Try exif -l filename and it will show you all exif fields and the fields that's in the picture. From man exif -l, --list-tags List all known EXIF tags and IFDs. A JPEG image must be pro- vided, and those tags which appear in the file are shown with an asterisk in the corresponding position in the list. warren -- thanks, I thought I tried p5-Image-ExifTool but in looking back at my notes I have a thing that says install ExifTool and its not there so obviously I didn't to that. Will check it if exiv2 doesn't work out. Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:11:19 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: If 9.0 had not broken my most important applications, I wouldn't be asking. Which applications - and are they still broken with the right TERM settings (TERM=xterm) ? Joe, most, lynx (which is also my file manager) in functions involving function keys. I could, of course, remap all of the macros, but that would be silly since I have about five pages of keymapping in .Xdefaults to make xterm in X emulate cons25. But that does give me an idea for an emergency solution -- perhaps I can run my console applications in an xterm in X since I made it emulate cons25. Of course there is nothing in X that will put 4000 characters (80x25) on the screen at once as legibly as VGA fonts do - which is why I use console applications to begin with - so that is strictly a get out of a jam solution, not practical for production. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:58:36 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is where I found it. Grepped /usr/src/sys/conf/* and did not find it. I see from google that something seems to have been added to HEAD and its UPDATING, but there is nothing of the sort in 9.0 RELEASE - p4. It's there on my 9.0-RELEASE-p4 boxes. In /etc/freebsd-update.conf do you have src among the components to update ? I really should have known better by now than to upgrade to a X.0 - perhaps by X.2 or X.3 they will have fix most of the stuff they broke with X.0. I've yet to see any breakage, do your applications really break with TERM=xterm on the console ? Fortunately, I have learned enough to try upgrades on the mirror and not on the production disc. Well yes - no untested updates should ever hit a production system, that's what the QA boxes are for. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:58:36 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is where I found it. Grepped /usr/src/sys/conf/* and did not find it. I see from google that something seems to have been added to HEAD and its UPDATING, but there is nothing of the sort in 9.0 RELEASE - p4. It's there on my 9.0-RELEASE-p4 boxes. In /etc/freebsd-update.conf do you have src among the components to update ? I have never been able to get update to work. I cvsup the source tree (which I suppose is now really serviced by subversion). I really should have known better by now than to upgrade to a X.0 - perhaps by X.2 or X.3 they will have fix most of the stuff they broke with X.0. I've yet to see any breakage, do your applications really break with TERM=xterm on the console ? Only the essential stuff: joe, most, lynx. Of course things which do not use any function keys (including the movement keys) are not affected. Fortunately, I have learned enough to try upgrades on the mirror and not on the production disc. Well yes - no untested updates should ever hit a production system, that's what the QA boxes are for. also the -V switch doesn't give such good results in mergemaster -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:12:57 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:11:19 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: If 9.0 had not broken my most important applications, I wouldn't be asking. Which applications - and are they still broken with the right TERM settings (TERM=xterm) ? Joe, most, lynx (which is also my file manager) in functions involving function keys. I could, of course, remap all of the macros, but that would be silly since I have about five pages of keymapping in .Xdefaults to make xterm in X emulate cons25. You have something bizarrely wrong on your machine. Lynx works perfectly in an xterm without any keymapping, it's a curses application so it should do and it does. I suspect you have something forcing TERM=CONS25 into the environment - you'd be well served by finding and removing it. Nothing apart from the curses library should ever need to care what the terminal type is provided TERM matches reality. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Lockups/panics with arbitrary 7.2 boxes
Hello, We have been observing the following on quite a few of our i386 FreeBSD 7.2 systems in the course of the last few months: 1. Boxes locking up - to clarify, manual reboot necessary to bring it back into operation. 2. Boxes panicking somewhere in virtual memory code eg., vdrop, page_fault. In both cases, did not find anything specifically unusual in their usage profile, when compared with other similar machines. For example, SWAPMETA was well within limits, available vm.kmem_map_free was quite normal. One observation was that the re-start of a periodically re-starting memory-intensive process coincided with the lockup/panic. Suspecting that we did not have the fix for some kernel bug that was perhaps fixed later, looked thru the known FreeBSD 7.2 issues that had similar back-traces but did not find any. I know this is somewhat of an old release but any history/pointers for known bugs or any other suggestions would be most helpful. Unfortunately, it is not quite an option to debug these boxes when they hit the issue. Data for config, selected sysctls and sample backtraces follow. [1] Key-portions of config machine i386 cpu I686_CPU maxusers256 makeoptionsDEBUG=-g options SCHED_4BSD options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES#Enable FFS soft updates support options MD_ROOT#MD is a potential root device options PROCFS #Process filesystem options PSEUDOFS options SCSI_DELAY=2000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UFS_DIRHASH options VFS_AIO options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options SHMMAXPGS=65536 options SEMMNI=40 options SEMMNS=240 options SEMUME=40 options SEMMNU=120 options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic# Symmetric (APIC) I/O device pci device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering device ahc# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device scbus# SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass #CAM passthrough driver device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3 device amr # AMI MegaRAID device atkbdc device atkbd device vga device sc device sio device miibus # MII bus support device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device bge # Broadcom BCM570x (``Tigon III'') device bce device em device le device loop# Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device vlan# Virtual LAN support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory disks device bpf #Berkeley packet filter options KDB options ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER # ~CR^B options KDB_UNATTENDED # reboot on default options DDB # reboot on default options KDB_TRACE # traceback options GDB #HW Crypto device crypto# core crypto support device cryptodev # /dev/crypto for access to h/w device ubsec# Broadcom 5501, 5601, 58xx device hifn# Hifn 7951, 7781, etc. device safe # SafeNet 1141 device smb # /dev/smb* device smbus # bus device ichsmb # Intel ICH SMBus controller chips device acpi device random options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 options COMPAT_LINUX options LINPROCFS options LINSYSFS device ichwd device mpt device ed # add in IPv6 support options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) #buffer kernel logging so messages don't get split options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=256 device sg # Linux SCSI passthrough device mfip# LSI MegaRAID SAS passthrough, requires CAM #Bump up kernel message buffer size to capture tty logs. optionsMSGBUF_SIZE=98304 device ichgpio # 2 fibs. options ROUTETABLES=2 [2] Sample back-traces page fault db_trace_self_wrapper+38 kdb_backtrace+41 panic+615 trap_fatal+819 trap_pfault+592 trap+946 calltrap+6 vm_page_cache_remove+14 vm_page_alloc+789 vm_fault+2215 trap_pfault+315 trap+560 calltrap+6 sched_switch+406 mi_switch+326
Upgrading 9.1-BETA1 - 9.1-RC1
I've installed a FreeBSD server using the BETA1 release because RC1 was delayed. I notice the 9.1-RC1 is available now, so I thought I'd upgrade ASAP. The following command, however, fails me: freebsd-update -r 9.1-RC1 upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-BETA1 from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-BETA1 from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-BETA1 from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Upon inspection of the code, it appears BETA1's ssl.pub cannot be found at any of the mirrors, and as such the process aborts. The release notes for RC1 specifically mention freebsd-update. How do I perform a correct update to RC1, and why is the freebsd-update flow failing me or not supported? Thanks!
Re: EXIF inspector
On 08/24/12 05:05, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-08-23 19:14, Gary Aitken skrev: On 08/23/12 08:38, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:08 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: For the photo folks -- What do you use for inspecting EXIF data? I've tried exif exiftags exifprobe and none of them show the full compliment of tags present on my oly pen-ep3. In particular, they omit most of the vendor specific stuff, and they seem to display different parts of things, but not everything. ... bah -- exif doesn't report all the tags Try exif -l filename and it will show you all exif fields and the fields that's in the picture. From man exif -l, --list-tags List all known EXIF tags and IFDs. A JPEG image must be pro- vided, and those tags which appear in the file are shown with an asterisk in the corresponding position in the list. exif appears to list only known exif tags, and seems to omit vendor specific information. Much of the important information about an image is stored in the vendor specific tags. In the case of my oly pen-ep3, exif -l lists 143 known exif tags, of which only 49 are used by my camera. However, exiv2 shows over 300 pieces of relevant information which actually appear, and well over 100 I can identify as relevant to the particular image (the others may or may not be relevant, I just can't interpret them; some are unlabelled). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail, mpack and aliases
I'm trying to use converters/mpack to send attachments. It doesn't seem to know anything about mail(1) aliases. I tried to save mpack output to a file with -o option, and then read this file into a mail message, e.g. with ~r. However, this doesn't seem to work. The attachment is not recognised as such and is just displayed as part of the body text. I think it's because there's an empty line between the mail header and the mime header produced by mpack. So how can I use mpack and my mail aliases? Thanks Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Tangental And OT: Commercial Support For 'sudo'
Please forgive the OTishness of this, but I'm hoping some of my fellows in the large data center space may have a hint or two here ... I am working with a firm that needs to run sudo in a variety of OS environments. A few of these - noteably IBM AIX - do not provide vendor support and legal indemnification of many open source packages, sudo among them. This is official a Big Deal (tm) for this company. So ... does anyone know of a commercial concern that provide sudo support and legal indemnification? GratiSoft - the keeper of sudo - were apparently going to do this at one point but decided not to. TIA, Now back to your regularly scheduled discussion of the World's Finest OS... -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lockups/panics with arbitrary 7.2 boxes
On 8/24/2012 6:47 AM, Sriram Gorti wrote: We have been observing the following on quite a few of our i386 FreeBSD 7.2 systems in the course of the last few months: 7.2 reached EoL June 30th, 2010. See http://www.freebsd.org/security/ You should really upgrade. Bryan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Unable to get crash dump
Hi All, Running 8.3-STABLE 5/21/2012 on HP DL360. While testing crash dump functionality, the dump aborts with the following message: Aborting dump due to I/O error. status == 0xb, scsi status == 0x0 ** DUMP FAILED (ERROR 5) ** Automatic reboot in 5 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Googling and searching freebsd.org have produced what appeared to be some what relevant messages, but I found nothing pointing to a cause and fix. I'm hoping someone might be able to point me in a direction to figuring this out. -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: EXIF inspector
2012-08-24 17:14, Gary Aitken skrev: On 08/24/12 05:05, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-08-23 19:14, Gary Aitken skrev: On 08/23/12 08:38, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:08 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: For the photo folks -- What do you use for inspecting EXIF data? I've tried exif exiftags exifprobe and none of them show the full compliment of tags present on my oly pen-ep3. In particular, they omit most of the vendor specific stuff, and they seem to display different parts of things, but not everything. ... bah -- exif doesn't report all the tags Try exif -l filename and it will show you all exif fields and the fields that's in the picture. From man exif -l, --list-tags List all known EXIF tags and IFDs. A JPEG image must be pro- vided, and those tags which appear in the file are shown with an asterisk in the corresponding position in the list. exif appears to list only known exif tags, and seems to omit vendor specific information. Much of the important information about an image is stored in the vendor specific tags. exif -'|' filename show the camera vendors stuff kw# exif -'|' IMG_0657.JPG MakerNote contains 109 values: Macro Mode |Normal Self-timer |Off Quality |Fine Flash Mode |Off Drive Mode |Single Unknown Tag |0x Focus Mode |Single Unknown Tag |0x Record Mode |JPEG Image Size |Large Easy Shooting Mode |Full auto Digital Zoom|None Contrast|Normal Saturation |Normal Sharpness |Normal ISO |Auto Metering Mode |Evaluative Focus Range |Auto AF Point|0x4006 Exposure Mode |Easy shooting Unknown Tag |0x7fff Lens Type |0x Long Focal Length of|6 Short Focal Length o|5000 Focal Units per mm |1000 Maximal Aperture|3.40 Minimal Aperture|8.00 Flash Activity |0x Flash Details | Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Focus Mode |Continuous AE Setting |Normal AE Image Stabilization |On Display Aperture|3.40 Zoom Source Width |4000 Zoom Target Width |4000 Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Photo Effect|0x Manual Flash Output |Off Color Tone |0x7fff Unknown Tag |0x7fff Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x0078 Focal Type |Zoom Focal Length|5000 Focal Plane X Size |6.35 mm Focal Plane Y Size |4.75 mm Unknown Tag | Auto ISO|4.000 Shot ISO|100 Measured EV |2.38 EV Target Aperture |3.40 Target Exposure Time|1/25 Exposure Compensatio|0.00 EV White Balance |Auto Slow Shutter|Off Sequence Number |0 Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Flash Guide Number |0.00 AF Point|0x Flash Exposure Compe|0.00 EV AE Bracketing |Off AE Bracket Value|0.00 EV Unknown Tag |0x0001 Focus Distance Upper|61 mm Focus Distance Lower|0 mm FNumber |3.47 Exposure Time |1/27 Unknown Tag |0x Bulb Duration |0x Unknown Tag |0x0008 Camera Type |Compact Auto Rotate |None ND Filter |Off Self-timer |Off Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Unknown Tag |0x Manual Flash Output |Off Image Type |IMG:PowerShot SX130 IS JPEG Firmware Version|Firmware Version 1.01 Image Number|121-0657 Owner Name | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | In the case of my oly pen-ep3, exif -l lists 143 known exif tags, of which only 49 are used by my camera. However, exiv2 shows over 300 pieces of relevant information which actually appear, and well over 100 I can identify as relevant to the particular image (the others may or may not be relevant, I just can't interpret them; some are unlabelled). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tangental And OT: Commercial Support For 'sudo'
Hi, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Please forgive the OTishness of this, but I'm hoping some of my fellows in the large data center space may have a hint or two here ... I am working with a firm that needs to run sudo in a variety of OS environments. A few of these - noteably IBM AIX - do not provide vendor support and legal indemnification of many open source packages, sudo among them. This is official a Big Deal (tm) for this company. So ... does anyone know of a commercial concern that provide sudo support and legal indemnification? GratiSoft - the keeper of sudo - were apparently going to do this at one point but decided not to. It wouldn't surprise me if no firm offered useful legal indemnification with contract terms the lawyer of your firm would consider acceptable. Why suppliers might not like to offer cover: How long is a piece of string ? Define what doors the string connects, contracturaly definie routes limits values of potential consequential damage to data service 3rd parties. How much would lawyers insurance brokers/suppliers push up the price for defining cover ? Reduced motivation to purchase cover anyway in realisation its a grey area, eminently disputable, come a big claim on insurer, he'd be looking for loopholes, so insuree (your firm) could end up sueing insurer. Yet more lawyers insurance fees; a profitable interesting relatively safe software supply business is different from the insurance business. Some managers are clueless, first demand the impossible, don't get it, then compromise without, do business without: One customer demanded as standard, my welding certificate insurance over a million Euros, I refused, offered I would stand on street pass a floppy disk through their fence. It escalated to someone responsible, they abandoned their conditions purchased. Several customers wanted me/my company to accept unlimited risk in event of copyright law suit (possible to research that risk, though still dangerous as even defending frivolous law suits can cost) and to cover risk of software patent litigation (impossible to know risks that lurk, no way!). Iv'e always refused, but offered to help explore contacts in insurance business if customer Really wants to purchase own insurance. After Thinking, they've Always backed down, decided that's Their business operating risk they should shoulder not try to pass to others, as no one else is stupid enough to accept undefinable risk, except possibly at very heavy extra cost debatable usefulness. Even if a firm categorically demands insurance, - does not mean they will get it, - indicates some manager is clueless, foolish or deluded/ aggressive, - shows the firm is a business risk, as it doesn't understand associated business issues. Every cloud has a silver lining. An indemnity contract (if any found) will have legal terms that purchasers lawyer will need to consult a computer professional about. The purchasing firm will end up paying 2 professionals to define its risk, probably decide to skip it, carry it's own risk. PS Another discussion forum to ask on: SAGE, System Administrators Guild Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
been here the whole day since around 09.00. one question since the guy who did my kvm switch used too-short cablesthey were ~4ft instead of 6. my question: Do any of you know if I can just buy kvm cables... of say 6ft? it's a trendnet TK-409K. #2:: I have no idea how a USB port could burn out, but that's what the tech found. anybody care to reply to either point?? tx very tmuch -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
On 24 Aug 2012 at 17:52, Gary Kline wrote: been here the whole day since around 09.00. one question since the guy who did my kvm switch used too-short cablesthey were ~4ft instead of 6. my question: Do any of you know if I can just buy kvm cables... of say 6ft? it's a trendnet TK-409K. KVM cables are generally pretty standard critters, though there are several types. You could probably just do a Google search, but I can tell you that NewEgg has a variety of them. -- Jerry Dunham Moderator, Texas Great Dane Rescue jdun...@texas.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
Hi, On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:52:53 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: #2:: I have no idea how a USB port could burn out, but that's what the tech found. anybody care to reply to either point?? every electrical or electronic device can burn out. I would check the hardware directly connected to the affected port. Especially the motherboard if it is a built-in one. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
Gary Kline wrote: been here the whole day since around 09.00. one question since the guy who did my kvm switch used too-short cablesthey were ~4ft instead of 6. my question: Do any of you know if I can just buy kvm cables... of say 6ft? it's a trendnet TK-409K. #2:: I have no idea how a USB port could burn out, but that's what the tech found. anybody care to reply to either point?? tx very tmuch Aloha Gary, Check pccables.com thats where I got mine. 6 foot. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 08:39:29AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:39:29 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com Subject: Re: RRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]] To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Hi, On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:52:53 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: #2:: I have no idea how a USB port could burn out, but that's what the tech found. anybody care to reply to either point?? every electrical or electronic device can burn out. I would check the hardware directly connected to the affected port. Especially the motherboard if it is a built-in one. the tech tried every USB port; none responded. the motherbd was a drop-in since the box was oeiginally a 2.75GHz single-proc bare-bones from 2005. gary ps: I have two copies of everything so just d/loaded Fedora. see if that reactivates the ports. Erich -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 08:00:05PM -0500, Jerry Dunham wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:00:05 -0500 From: Jerry Dunham jdun...@texas.net Subject: Re: RRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.63) On 24 Aug 2012 at 17:52, Gary Kline wrote: been here the whole day since around 09.00. one question since the guy who did my kvm switch used too-short cablesthey were ~4ft instead of 6. my question: Do any of you know if I can just buy kvm cables... of say 6ft? it's a trendnet TK-409K. KVM cables are generally pretty standard critters, though there are several types. You could probably just do a Google search, but I can tell you that NewEgg has a variety of them. wow! outstanding. thanks. gary -- Jerry Dunham Moderator, Texas Great Dane Rescue jdun...@texas.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AAAARRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]]
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 04:08:56PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:08:56 -1000 From: Al Plant n...@hdk5.net Subject: Re: RRRgghhh-h-h. [[tooo tired]] To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org CC: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline wrote: been here the whole day since around 09.00. one question since the guy who did my kvm switch used too-short cablesthey were ~4ft instead of 6. my question: Do any of you know if I can just buy kvm cables... of say 6ft? it's a trendnet TK-409K. #2:: I have no idea how a USB port could burn out, but that's what the tech found. anybody care to reply to either point?? tx very tmuch Aloha Gary, Check pccables.com thats where I got mine. 6 foot. YES! Aloha!! ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: EXIF inspector
On 08/24/12 14:54, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-08-24 17:14, Gary Aitken skrev: On 08/24/12 05:05, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-08-23 19:14, Gary Aitken skrev: On 08/23/12 08:38, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:08 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: For the photo folks -- What do you use for inspecting EXIF data? I've tried exif exiftags exifprobe and none of them show the full compliment of tags present on my oly pen-ep3. In particular, they omit most of the vendor specific stuff, and they seem to display different parts of things, but not everything. ... bah -- exif doesn't report all the tags Try exif -l filename and it will show you all exif fields and the fields that's in the picture. From man exif -l, --list-tags List all known EXIF tags and IFDs. A JPEG image must be pro- vided, and those tags which appear in the file are shown with an asterisk in the corresponding position in the list. exif appears to list only known exif tags, and seems to omit vendor specific information. Much of the important information about an image is stored in the vendor specific tags. exif -'|' filename show the camera vendors stuff kw# exif -'|' IMG_0657.JPG MakerNote contains 109 values: Macro Mode |Normal Self-timer |Off ... In the case of my oly pen-ep3, exif -l lists 143 known exif tags, of which only 49 are used by my camera. However, exiv2 shows over 300 pieces of relevant information which actually appear, and well over 100 I can identify as relevant to the particular image (the others may or may not be relevant, I just can't interpret them; some are unlabelled). Perhaps it depends on the camera; or perhaps Canon puts all of the additional information in the MakerNote. For my oly, the MakerNote contains next to nothing: %exif -'|' Bird_0001B_20111214_300mm_IS_30s_Flicker.jpg MakerNote contains 7 values: Speed/Sequence/Panor|Normal/0/0 Camera ID |OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Unknown Tag | Another possibility is you are missing some info you aren't aware of. I'm curious to know if Canon stashes things in other places; I know nikon does similar to the way oly does as reported below; exiv2 -u -p a on a nikon raw file shows 112 nikon specific values. %man exif ... As EXIF tags are read, any unknown ones are discarded... %exiv2 -u -p a Bird_0001B_20111214_300mm_IS_30s_Flicker.jpg Exif.Image.ImageDescription Ascii 32 OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA Exif.Image.Make Ascii 24 OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP. Exif.Image.Model Ascii 17 E-P3 Exif.Image.Orientation Short 1 top, left Exif.Image.XResolution Rational1 314 Exif.Image.YResolution Rational1 314 Exif.Image.ResolutionUnitShort 1 inch Exif.Image.Software Ascii 32 Version 1.0 Exif.Image.DateTime Ascii 20 2011:12:14 13:46:47 Exif.Image.ArtistAscii 64 Gary Aitken Exif.Image.YCbCrPositioning Short 1 Co-sited Exif.Image.Copyright Ascii 64 Dona Aitken Exif.Image.ExifTag Long1 218 Exif.Photo.ExposureTime Rational1 1/30 s Exif.Photo.FNumber Rational1 F6.7 Exif.Photo.ExposureProgram Short 1 Aperture priority Exif.Photo.ISOSpeedRatings Short 1 640 Exif.Photo.ExifVersion Undefined 4 2.21 Exif.Photo.DateTimeOriginal Ascii 20 2011:12:14 13:46:47 Exif.Photo.DateTimeDigitized Ascii 20 2011:12:14 13:46:47 Exif.Photo.ComponentsConfiguration Undefined 4 YCbCr Exif.Photo.ExposureBiasValue SRational 1 0 EV Exif.Photo.MaxApertureValue Rational1 F4.8 Exif.Photo.MeteringMode Short 1 Spot Exif.Photo.LightSource Short 1 Cloudy weather Exif.Photo.Flash Short 1 Yes, did not fire Exif.Photo.FocalLength Rational1 300.0 mm Exif.Photo.MakerNote Undefined 10368 (Binary value suppressed) Exif.MakerNote.OffsetLong1 3208 Exif.MakerNote.ByteOrder Ascii 3 II Exif.Olympus2.SpecialModeLong3 Normal Exif.Olympus2.CameraID Undefined 32 OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA Exif.Olympus2.Equipment Ifd 1 102 Exif.OlympusEq.EquipmentVersion Undefined 4 1.00 Exif.OlympusEq.CameraType