Skype: local video view with Virtual in xorg.conf
Hi, I'm using Skype 2.1.0.81 in 10-CURRENT. Recently I have added Virtual ... to the Display SubSection in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Virtual 2704 2704 Depth 1 EndSubSection ... to get Xinerama view while having connected an external VGA display. This works fine, but the local view in Skype does not show up, the picture of the remote is fine and my picture at the other side as well, only the local (test) view does not work. When I start Sk in a xterm, it says on probing the local view: $ skype libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Invalid argument libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Invalid argument Any ideas? Thanks matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On 2012.11.18 09:58, Gary Kline wrote: I probably should cc the hardward guys about this. first, see if it geta any traction here, tho. my tech guy got me a Delll 3010 that has an improved [[meaning screwed up]] BIOS with some hardware mess called the UEFI. Trying to get ssh to work *bi-directionally* i royally f'ked up my installation for well over 27 hours. ssh still fails to connect going in to my new tao; but this time I know what to avoid. my question is simple: of what use is this new/improved POS setup? im sure its the same for every flavor of unix. my view is that it mjust makes using non-windozw that much more painful. gary Gary, UEFI is more than a modified BIOS, it's something to get rid of the BIOS altogether. It's the x86 BIOS that arguably deserves much more to be called a screwed up POS, as it carries with it 30 years worth of legacy weirdness, kludges to go around them in modern systems, and a whole catalog of vendor-specific bugs and non-compliant implementations. UEFI was designed to solve a bunch of problems for manufacturers and advanced users, I'm not so sure that it deserves so much heat. What I'm sure of, is that there's no relationship between your new machine's UEFI and your ssh issues. I'm also sure that this has nothing to do with FreeBSD. Best of luck getting your work done on your new machine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:49:46 +0100, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: On 2012.11.18 09:58, Gary Kline wrote: I probably should cc the hardward guys about this. first, see if it geta any traction here, tho. my tech guy got me a Delll 3010 that has an improved [[meaning screwed up]] BIOS with some hardware mess called the UEFI. Trying to get ssh to work *bi-directionally* i royally f'ked up my installation for well over 27 hours. ssh still fails to connect going in to my new tao; but this time I know what to avoid. my question is simple: of what use is this new/improved POS setup? im sure its the same for every flavor of unix. my view is that it mjust makes using non-windozw that much more painful. gary Gary, UEFI is more than a modified BIOS, it's something to get rid of the BIOS altogether. It's the x86 BIOS that arguably deserves much more to be called a screwed up POS, as it carries with it 30 years worth of legacy weirdness, kludges to go around them in modern systems, and a whole catalog of vendor-specific bugs and non-compliant implementations. UEFI was designed to solve a bunch of problems for manufacturers and advanced users, I'm not so sure that it deserves so much heat. The positive aspects you've mentioned about UEFI, the potential to solve problems originating back to half-baked solutions and hacks on BIOS level are well mentioned. Still I fear that UEFI will not bring them to reality. Instead it will be worse. Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html As the title suggests, there are many more. :-) What I'm sure of, is that there's no relationship between your new machine's UEFI and your ssh issues. That sounds possible, but still UEFI _can_ be used to interfere with any level of the machine, as far as I know. As it is somehow a kind of micro-OS, it can surely detect network traffic and motify or deny it if desired. There are many aspects of security that can be realized with UEFI. Avoiding uncertified traffic could be one of them. Still in _this_ particular case I would not assume UEFI to be the source of the problem. I'm also sure that this has nothing to do with FreeBSD. FreeBSD's ssh implementation (client and server) usually are simple to set up, providing a good out of the box experience. Checking settings on both sides, using the -vvv option or maybe even using tcpdump or Wireshark to examine the traffic could help to spot the problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that the code is doing exactly what the designer wanted it to do. At best this was an oversight by the designer; at worse just plain incompetence. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that the code is doing exactly what the designer wanted it to do. At best this was an oversight by the designer; at worse just plain incompetence. That's quite possible. We've seen poorly implemented ACPI behaviour in modern BIOS as well, or manufacturers intendedly going their way to limit hardware in what it can do or what it will support. It's just my fear that UEFI won't do better per se, and that lazy or incompetent people will screw it up, and make it worse. The article mentions legacy boot to restore a somewhat normal behaviour... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and no information === about emulators/wine-fbsd64 can be found in /usr/ports/MOVED hints? There has never been such a port, you have to install from package. Ordinarily, packages are created by building ports. If this one is an exception, how is it created? I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. The name 'wine-fbsd64' looks strange. You installed it before? and when did you find this name? -- Hello, world! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/FAQ#FAQ.2FTechnicalDetails.How_do_Mercurial_hashes_get_calculated.3F :%s/BSD/LGP/ http://mercurial.selenic.com/about/ -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/FAQ#FAQ.2FTechnicalDetails.How_do_Mercurial_hashes_get_calculated.3F http://selenic.com/repo/hg/file/fd903f89e42b http://selenic.com/repo/hg/file/fd903f89e42b/COPYING GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE http://selenic.com/repo/hg/file/fd903f89e42b/COPYING#l2Version 2, June 1991 http://selenic.com/repo/hg/file/fd903f89e42b/COPYING#l3 In their repository , it is GPL v2 . Is there any other place which specifies its license as BSDL ? Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and no information === about emulators/wine-fbsd64 can be found in /usr/ports/MOVED hints? There has never been such a port, you have to install from package. Ordinarily, packages are created by building ports. If this one is an exception, how is it created? I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 The wine and wine-devel ports won't even compile on amd64. There was some guy who claims to have managed creating a binary _package_ for amd64 somehow, and wo sent periodic announcement updates about to this list. I don't know if it was legit or not: I never install stuff bypassing ports. But apparently, he didn't create a _port_, nor did he modify/enhance the current i386-only wine ports. The name 'wine-fbsd64' looks strange. You installed it before? and when did you find this name? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that the code is doing exactly what the designer wanted it to do. At best this was an oversight by the designer; at worse just plain incompetence. That's quite possible. We've seen poorly implemented ACPI behaviour in modern BIOS as well, or manufacturers intendedly going their way to limit hardware in what it can do or what it will support. It's just my fear that UEFI won't do better per se, and that lazy or incompetent people will screw it up, and make it worse. The article mentions legacy boot to restore a somewhat normal behaviour... The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. If a hardware or firmware specification requires feature X, but Windows doesn't use feature X, then vendors won't test feature X, and FreeBSD can't depend on it being functional. So it shouldn't be required by FreeBSD. It can be used, provided it isn't required. In this case it may mean that FreeBSD must identify itself as Windows, just as all browsers identify themselves as IE. You might say this was enabling vendors to provide buggy systems, but as long as FreeBSD is small it does not have the power to affect vendors. Insisting on correctness from vendors has no effect when it is FreeBSD doing the insisting. It is only when FreeBSD is more widely used that it can adopt the role of enforcing standards on vendors, and it can not become widely used if it starts insisting on standards prematurely. daniel feenberg -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.com wrote: 19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/FAQ#FAQ.2FTechnicalDetails.How_do_Mercurial_hashes_get_calculated.3F :%s/BSD/LGP/ http://mercurial.selenic.com/about/ Even if it was BSD licensed, Mercurial has a huge dependency: Python; and Git is Perl-based. So neither of them is ideal, IMHO. If at all, we'd need a lean and mean distributed SCM program like Mercurial or Git, but written in C that we could add to base. Any volunteers? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:10 AM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.com wrote: 19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/FAQ#FAQ.2FTechnicalDetails.How_do_Mercurial_hashes_get_calculated.3F :%s/BSD/LGP/ http://mercurial.selenic.com/about/ Even if it was BSD licensed, Mercurial has a huge dependency: Python; and Git is Perl-based. So neither of them is ideal, IMHO. If at all, we'd need a lean and mean distributed SCM program like Mercurial or Git, but written in C that we could add to base. Any volunteers? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/License http://selenic.com/hg/file/tip/COPYING http://mercurial.selenic.com/about/ Mercurial is free software licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License Version 2 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.txt or any later version. No one of them above mentions BSD license , or dual license , etc. Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Similar projects ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
any 19.11.2012 15:03, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and no information === about emulators/wine-fbsd64 can be found in /usr/ports/MOVED hints? There has never been such a port, you have to install from package. Ordinarily, packages are created by building ports. If this one is an exception, how is it created? I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 The wine and wine-devel ports won't even compile on amd64. There was some guy who claims to have managed creating a binary _package_ for amd64 somehow, and wo sent periodic announcement updates about to this list. I don't know if it was legit or not: I never install stuff bypassing ports. But apparently, he didn't create a _port_, nor did he modify/enhance the current i386-only wine ports. He does created a port but didn't like to commit it into ports as this one gobbles all libraries that wine depend upon from local system and other installed ports and installs them as part of wine-fbsd64. And this is not good from a security/maintainability perspective yet it gives everyone a choice to use wine on amd64 machine. The port is freely available and regularly updated on mediafire with guides on how someone can make this package himself without downloading binaries compiled by some third party. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/**20187.htmlhttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that the code is doing exactly what the designer wanted it to do. At best this was an oversight by the designer; at worse just plain incompetence. That's quite possible. We've seen poorly implemented ACPI behaviour in modern BIOS as well, or manufacturers intendedly going their way to limit hardware in what it can do or what it will support. It's just my fear that UEFI won't do better per se, and that lazy or incompetent people will screw it up, and make it worse. The article mentions legacy boot to restore a somewhat normal behaviour... The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. If a hardware or firmware specification requires feature X, but Windows doesn't use feature X, then vendors won't test feature X, and FreeBSD can't depend on it being functional. So it shouldn't be required by FreeBSD. It can be used, provided it isn't required. In this case it may mean that FreeBSD must identify itself as Windows, just as all browsers identify themselves as IE. The above paragraph is completely meaningless , because neither *BSD , nor Linux is a marginal operating system . Please see http://www.top500.org/statistics/list/ Select from this Operating System Family where in world's 500 super computers , Windows is on ONLY 3 computers , the rest is almost Linux 469 , Unix 20 , BSD-based 1 computers and others . http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/OS_Compatibility/ http://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutasus/OS/Linux.pdf contains Linux distributions supported in ASUS desktop boards . Some trade marked servers excluded , Linux and *BSD run on many server hardware . By not considering these and then saying that *BSD and Linux should follow foot steps of some one is not acceptable . The problem is there is NO any compatible hardware list for FreeBSD maintained continuously . Another problem is vendors are not supplying manuals about their hardware for whatever the reason is which is making to write drivers for them nearly impossible . In such cases , the users should seek compatible hardware without entrapped into proprietary to one operating system hardware . You might say this was enabling vendors to provide buggy systems, but as long as FreeBSD is small it does not have the power to affect vendors. Insisting on correctness from vendors has no effect when it is FreeBSD doing the insisting. It is only when FreeBSD is more widely used that it can adopt the role of enforcing standards on vendors, and it can not become widely used if it starts insisting on standards prematurely. daniel feenberg -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?
In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? Command in question is dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course DRIVE is replaced by the actual device node; also I believe bs=8M, good for Linux, would be bs=8m in FreeBSD. I don't really know if conv=fsync is necessary, but that's what was advised in the GNOME test-drive download page. It isn't. Writing to raw devices in FreeBSD immediately writes to the physical media. No flushing is needed. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com I was able to dd GNOME-3.6.0.iso to that USB stick, a discontinued Kingston Data Traveler model that was inaccessible to NetBSD until they fixed that USB bug recently. I got CAM SCSI error messages in FreeBSD, couldn't access the USB stick in the normal way, but apparently dd worked. These particular Kingston Data Travelers worked normally with previous builds of FreeBSD. That USB stick proved bootable, so I got a test drive of GNOME 3.6.0. I had a difficult time finding my way around the graphical interface,. When I got to a command prompt, I found first there was no nslookup, and then found there was no man command. I thought these were a standard part of (quasi-)Unix OSes. I didn't really get a good impression. Also, the print/text was very small, a recipe for eyestrain. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
http://www.fossil-scm.org/ I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Baptise Daroussin probably could tell us more about fossil pro and cons. -- Regards, Alexander Yerenkow ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?
On 2012-11-19 07:42, Thomas Mueller wrote: In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? Command in question is dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course DRIVE is replaced by the actual device node; also I believe bs=8M, good for Linux, would be bs=8m in FreeBSD. I don't really know if conv=fsync is necessary, but that's what was advised in the GNOME test-drive download page. It isn't. Writing to raw devices in FreeBSD immediately writes to the physical media. No flushing is needed. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com I was able to dd GNOME-3.6.0.iso to that USB stick, a discontinued Kingston Data Traveler model that was inaccessible to NetBSD until they fixed that USB bug recently. I got CAM SCSI error messages in FreeBSD, couldn't access the USB stick in the normal way, but apparently dd worked. These particular Kingston Data Travelers worked normally with previous builds of FreeBSD. That USB stick proved bootable, so I got a test drive of GNOME 3.6.0. I had a difficult time finding my way around the graphical interface,. When I got to a command prompt, I found first there was no nslookup, and then found there was no man command. I thought these were a standard part of (quasi-)Unix OSes. I didn't really get a good impression. Also, the print/text was very small, a recipe for eyestrain. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Some Linux distributions tried doing away with nslookup in favor of dig a while back, most have added it back in though. However it looks like you found something that hasn't put it back in. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portsnap
Hi, have i caught portsnap with its pants down ? # rm -rf /usr/ports # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Sun Nov 11 15:54:03 CET 2012 to Mon Nov 19 15:34:57 CET 2012. Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 24085 patches.102030405060708090... ... 0240602407024080.. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 18 new ports or files... done. /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. # # ls /usr/ports ls: /usr/ports: No such file or directory # # ls -al /var/db/portsnap/ total 6144 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 19 16:04 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Nov 4 11:07 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2063752 Nov 19 15:51 INDEX drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4113920 Nov 19 16:04 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 451 Oct 16 22:50 pub.ssl -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 284 Nov 19 15:51 serverlist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 284 Nov 19 15:51 serverlist_full -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 48 Nov 19 15:51 serverlist_tried -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 527 Nov 19 15:51 tINDEX -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 85 Nov 19 15:51 tag So, why did it do so much work (ca. 5 min, 24085 patches), even claiming to have applied patches, before telling me the env was not properly set up ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/**20187.htmlhttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. If a hardware or firmware specification requires feature X, but Windows doesn't use feature X, then vendors won't test feature X, and FreeBSD can't depend on it being functional. So it shouldn't be required by FreeBSD. It can be used, provided it isn't required. In this case it may mean that FreeBSD must identify itself as Windows, just as all browsers identify themselves as IE. The above paragraph is completely meaningless , because neither *BSD , nor Linux is a marginal operating system . Please see http://www.top500.org/statistics/list/ Select from this Operating System Family where in world's 500 super computers , Windows is on ONLY 3 computers , the rest is almost Linux 469 , Unix 20 , BSD-based 1 computers and others . http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/OS_Compatibility/ http://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutasus/OS/Linux.pdf contains Linux distributions supported in ASUS desktop boards . Some trade marked servers excluded , Linux and *BSD run on many server hardware . It isn't what vendors should care about. I agree they should care about FreeBSD. But by and large they don't. Arguing that they should serves no purpose. They have poor moral character, that is why they don't care and also why they are impervious to argument, except from large customers. The handful of server vendors that are exceptions do not detract from the force of my argument. daniel feenberg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:21:19 + (UTC) jb wrote: Hi, have i caught portsnap with its pants down ? # rm -rf /usr/ports # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Sun Nov 11 15:54:03 CET 2012 to Mon Nov 19 15:34:57 CET 2012. Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 24085 patches.102030405060708090... ... 0240602407024080.. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 18 new ports or files... done. /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. # # ls /usr/ports ls: /usr/ports: No such file or directory # ... So, why did it do so much work (ca. 5 min, 24085 patches), even claiming to have applied patches, before telling me the env was not properly set up ? jb You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. fetch downloads and applies patches to the compressed snapshot. update uses the compressed snapshot to update a pre-existing ports tree created by an extract ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: ... ... So, why did it do so much work (ca. 5 min, 24085 patches), even claiming to have applied patches, before telling me the env was not properly set up ? jb You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. fetch downloads and applies patches to the compressed snapshot. update uses the compressed snapshot to update a pre-existing ports tree created by an extract ... OK. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected up front as invalid entry, even if it applied to the second part - update. Because the effect of processing the entire entry fetch plus update is lost anyway. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws writes: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 The wine and wine-devel ports won't even compile on amd64. There was some guy who claims to have managed creating a binary _package_ for amd64 somehow, and wo sent periodic announcement updates about to this list. I don't know if it was legit or not: I never install stuff bypassing ports. But apparently, he didn't create a _port_, nor did he modify/enhance the current i386-only wine ports. The name 'wine-fbsd64' looks strange. You installed it before? and when did you find this name? -cpghost. Oh, I didn't know that and never try to install wine before. Thanks for your information. -- Hello, world! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dump date and use of -r or -R
hmmm... I used -R when doing a dump, and I see the dump date is recorded as 1969. Does that mean an incremental dump will dump the whole thing again? on a related note, if dumping to a file and not a linear media such as physical tape, is there any real reason to use -r or -R? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws writes: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 The wine and wine-devel ports won't even compile on amd64. There was some guy who claims to have managed creating a binary _package_ for amd64 somehow, and wo sent periodic announcement updates about to this list. I don't know if it was legit or not: I never install stuff bypassing ports. But apparently, he didn't create a _port_, nor did he modify/enhance the current i386-only wine ports. The name 'wine-fbsd64' looks strange. You installed it before? and when did you find this name? -cpghost. Oh, I didn't know that and never try to install wine before. Thanks for your information. Volodymyr has pointed out that this was a port (and not a binary package) that never got committed. As a port, you can examine precisely what it does and it may be worth a try if you feel that it doesn't mess with your installation and doesn't compromise it. I didn't try it, can't say anything at all about it. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. fetch downloads and applies patches to the compressed snapshot. update uses the compressed snapshot to update a pre-existing ports tree created by an extract ... OK. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected up front as invalid entry, even if it applied to the second part - update. Because the effect of processing the entire entry fetch plus update is lost anyway. Not isn't, you've brought the snapshot up to date. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: skype
ajtiM wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2012 12:57:14 Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, November 18, 2012 a las 12:45:54PM -0600, ajtiM escribió: When using Skype on FreeBSD (.1-RC3, the call often (every 1-5 minutes) gets disconnected or better I hear but the other side doesn't hear me If I remember correct kern.hz=100 in loader.conf solved this problem before I I had this line but it doesn't help me. I have Skype-2.1.0.81 installed. I know that this does not help much, but I'm using the same Sk in 10-CURRENT very often (also with video), and do not face this problem. Are yo sure that this is caused by FreeBSD or at your end of the call at all? matthias I am sure that is a problem on my side. Mitja , I have noticed that skype drops at irregular intervals from some locations that we reach on a regular basis. We know this is bad lines at the other end. Some small communities may limit or time out certain areas. (My brother in law is a small town official in this specific area and he says everybody complains about it.) If your getting it on all calls you may possibly have bad lines on your side. Check to see if any friends experience the same issues on other OS. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz: On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't mention this at all, although I can find a lot of (not quite consistent) advises on the net on how to do it with gpart/newfs. Over the last week there has been a discussion with the subject Advanced Format Drive ? on this list that has been discussing that. If you only just signed up then you can search for it in the mail archives. There is a lot of useful info there, and I also found a lot of useful tips from Warren Block on how to create swap as a file, how to use tmpfs, about noatime etc. However, nowhere I can found anything that could explain me for sure how to do this BEFORE that: I've got 240G Kingston SSD. I want this: win7: ada2s1 ~ 30G empty (probably for experimental little win7 install in the future) freebsd9: ada2s2a ~3G for / ada2s2d ~80G the for /usr (separated for easier backup) ada2s2f ~ the rest for storage How to do this with gpart, respecting 4g alignment etc? Can anybody share the exact commands to achieve this? SergiM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz: On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't mention this at all, although I can find a lot of (not quite consistent) advises on the net on how to do it with gpart/newfs. Over the last week there has been a discussion with the subject Advanced Format Drive ? on this list that has been discussing that. If you only just signed up then you can search for it in the mail archives. There is a lot of useful info there, and I also found a lot of useful tips from Warren Block on how to create swap as a file, how to use tmpfs, about noatime etc. I didn't say anything about noatime, and personally have not done that on SSDs. However, nowhere I can found anything that could explain me for sure how to do this BEFORE that: I've got 240G Kingston SSD. I want this: win7: ada2s1 ~ 30G empty (probably for experimental little win7 install in the future) freebsd9: ada2s2a ~3G for / ada2s2d ~80G the for /usr (separated for easier backup) ada2s2f ~ the rest for storage How to do this with gpart, respecting 4g alignment etc? Can anybody share the exact commands to achieve this? That's 4K. Most of the following is shown in the new Handbook gmirror section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html Create the MBR partitioning scheme: # gpart create -s mbr ada2 Add MBR bootcode: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada2 Add the Windows 7 partition, forcing it to start at block 2048 because -a is not going to do what is expected for slices because of decades-old CHS stuff: # gpart add -t ntfs -b 2048 -s 30g ada2 Create the FreeBSD slice: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 Set this slice active and add FreeBSD bootcode: # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 # gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot ada2s1 Add the FreeBSD partitions. -a will work here, aligning the partitions. # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -l dxrootfs -s 3g ada2s1 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -l dxvarfs -s 1g ada2s1 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -l dxusrfsada2s1 Note the use of GPT labels. The dx is just random go-fast letters added because I believe it is a mistake to have duplicate labels and try to keep them all unique. Pick your own. /etc/fstab entries are /dev/gpt/dxrootfs, /dev/gpt/dxvarfs, /dev/gpt/dxusrfs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an organization. The format should be as shown here: Article I Name Bla-bla section 1 section 2 Article II Members And so on. I can accomplish this easily in MS Word; however, I have not been able to find a way to make Latex use Article as opposed to Chapter in its heading. I have to use Article I have Googled for over a day without success. I find it very strange that Latex doesn't have an \article definition like \section and \chapter. Is there any way to do this or am I stuck with MS Word. BTW, I did investigate the titlesec package, but I did not see a way to accomplish it. Thanks -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected up front as invalid entry, even if it applied to the second part - update. Because the effect of processing the entire entry fetch plus update is lost anyway. Not isn't, you've brought the snapshot up to date. Well, yes. But as I already explained, there was ONE command. If I wanted to be satisfied with two command outcomes, even if logically linked by sequential execution, then I would do: # portsnap fetch; portsnap update There is a subtle, but important difference. In general, if I wanted to check for command completion code, which is quite common in UNIX CLI or scripting env, it would make a lot of difference if a command failed half way in both cases: 'portsnap fetch update; check-completion-code' and 'portsnap fetch; check-completion-code; portsnap update; check-completion-code' jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:07:44 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Snip ... So how can I run rpd on the freebsd host running the virtualbox server system so I can access the configured vm? I this configuration even possible? I'll give it one last shot. CREATE/RUNNING ACCESSING ! CREATE/RUN guests needs X11 ? NO ! ACCESSING guests needs X11 ? Depends on the guest. a) Guest = Consele head OS (FBSD, Lunux, etc..) = No need for x11/graphics on the local host or any other remote accessing host. b) Guest = Graphic head OS (windose, any *NIX w/ a graphic interface, Macs, etc..) = Yes, You will need x11 or some form of graphic interface running on the local host or any other remote accessing host. I hope this puts an end to it. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет:
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could
give me a quick answer.
I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an
organization. The format should be as shown here:
Article I
Name
Bla-bla
section 1
section 2
Article II
Members
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Article}
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{\Roman{chapter}}
--
WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam)
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
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Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:18:32PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100
Polytropon articulated:
Allow me to provide just one example:
More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html
That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that the code is doing
exactly what the designer wanted it to do. At best this was an
oversight by the designer; at worse just plain incompetence.
I heard from my technician last night--on his way East for the
week. he send the URL for an 18MB file {from Dell} all about
this new paradigm. --like I've got the time to much around with
that much detail... .
someone, I think down-queue said something about the UEFI having
been designed to make it all the more difficult to drop on FBSD
[or anything *except* Doze. my tech echoed the same thing 8 days
ago when he dropped off the box.
I'm sure by now the BIOS has been hacked beyond reason--especially
with the 64-bit versions. Still, if I were designing a new BIOS
that supported the vast majority of my users [DOZE], I would use
every last trick I could dream of to strongly =discourage= anything
but Windows.
That's quite possible. We've seen poorly implemented ACPI
behaviour in modern BIOS as well, or manufacturers
intendedly going their way to limit hardware in what
it can do or what it will support.
Exactly; not to put to fine a point on this, but this is where I
smell greed as part of the picture/rationale.
It's just my fear that UEFI won't do better per se, and
that lazy or incompetent people will screw it up, and
make it worse.
The article mentions legacy boot to restore a somewhat
normal behaviour...
ha! I tried the legacy route for hours without success. only when
I selected the UEFI did things start to work. and then, upon reboot,
I got the string Cand Find Boot Sector; press any key to reboot
nutshell, I'll scan thru the 18meg file that I have the pointer to.
but will probably ask for a less-featureful model.
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Re: portsnap
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:13:45 + (UTC) RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. You invoked one executable, 'portsnap', giving IT two commands, 'fetch' and 'update' as parameters. Which is *EXACTlY* the same as if you had invoked that executable twice, giving it one command (in the order above) on each invocation. The 'fetch' command succeeded. The 'update' command failed. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected up front as invalid entry, even if it applied to the second part - update. Because the effect of processing the entire entry fetch plus update is lost anyway. Not isn't, you've brought the snapshot up to date. Well, yes. But as I already explained, there was ONE command. You misunderstood the terminology -- you gave *TWO* commmands _to_the_ _portsnap_program_. when portsnap is given multiple commands as invocation arguments, it processes them sequentially, retuning an 'exit status' for the first command that _fails, or 'success' if none of the commands failed. If I wanted to be satisfied with two command outcomes, even if logically linked by sequential execution, then I would do: # portsnap fetch; portsnap update There is a subtle, but important difference. Only in your expectations. grin In general, if I wanted to check for command completion code, which is quite common in UNIX CLI or scripting env, it would make a lot of difference if a command failed half way in both cases: 'portsnap fetch update; check-completion-code' and 'portsnap fetch; check-completion-code; portsnap update; check-completion-code' 'portsnap fetch update' is the EXACT equivalent of: 'portsnap fetch portsnap update; `check-completion-code'` Your: 'portsnap fetch; check-completion-code; portsnap update; check-completion-code' is bad/incorrect scripting since it _unconditionally_ executes 'portsnap update', which you do NOT want to do if/when 'fetch' fails. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
Latex can do what you describe but you would need to create or locate a different document class. The standard classes that ship with (most) versions of Latex are for academic journals, books, and letters. You are more likely to get your question answered on a Latex specific forum or mailing list. Finally, in case you have not already tried it, I highly recommend using Lyx to create Latex documents. If you are in a rush you can use the \section* command to enter your article headings and the \subsection* command for your section headings. The trailing asterisk suppresses automatic numbering, so you will need to add your own. Much nicer to use automatic numbering. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an organization. The format should be as shown here: Article I Name Bla-bla section 1 section 2 Article II Members And so on. I can accomplish this easily in MS Word; however, I have not been able to find a way to make Latex use Article as opposed to Chapter in its heading. I have to use Article I have Googled for over a day without success. I find it very strange that Latex doesn't have an \article definition like \section and \chapter. Is there any way to do this or am I stuck with MS Word. BTW, I did investigate the titlesec package, but I did not see a way to accomplish it. Thanks -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Dunn Open Slate Project http://openslate.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:08:47 +0400
Boris Samorodov articulated:
20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет:
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could
give me a quick answer.
I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an
organization. The format should be as shown here:
Article I
Name
Bla-bla
section 1
section 2
Article II
Members
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Article}
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{\Roman{chapter}}
Thank you. I tried thechapter and \chapter. It never occurred to me
to use \chaptername. I couldn't find any documentation on it either,
although I was certain that it could be done. I am surprised that there
is not a fixed style for that in Latex. Article is commonly used in
legal documents.
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carmel...@hotmail.com
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Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:30:44AM -0500, Daniel Feenberg wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/**20187.htmlhttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. If a hardware or firmware specification requires feature X, but Windows doesn't use feature X, then vendors won't test feature X, and FreeBSD can't depend on it being functional. So it shouldn't be required by FreeBSD. It can be used, provided it isn't required. In this case it may mean that FreeBSD must identify itself as Windows, just as all browsers identify themselves as IE. The above paragraph is completely meaningless , because neither *BSD , nor Linux is a marginal operating system . Please see http://www.top500.org/statistics/list/ Select from this Operating System Family where in world's 500 super computers , Windows is on ONLY 3 computers , the rest is almost Linux 469 , Unix 20 , BSD-based 1 computers and others . I'll take a bow, or part-of, for the BSD computer. Maybe I shouldn't. 1/500 is nothing to put on my tombstone:-) http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/OS_Compatibility/ http://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutasus/OS/Linux.pdf contains Linux distributions supported in ASUS desktop boards . Some trade marked servers excluded , Linux and *BSD run on many server hardware . It isn't what vendors should care about. I agree they should care about FreeBSD. But by and large they don't. Arguing that they should serves no purpose. They have poor moral character, that is why they don't care and also why they are impervious to argument, except from large customers. The handful of server vendors that are exceptions do not detract from the force of my argument. daniel feenberg answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free hardware and software? maybe 64-bit only to start? most of us who are still alive and contributing *something* might be interested in this. forget where I read it, but unless I was dreaming, it was for real and would fit the OPen-* model... . gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
19.11.2012, 23:27, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:08:47 +0400
Boris Samorodov articulated:
20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет:
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could
give me a quick answer.
I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an
organization. The format should be as shown here:
Article I
Name
Bla-bla
section 1
section 2
Article II
Members
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Article}
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{\Roman{chapter}}
Thank you. I tried thechapter and \chapter. It never occurred to me
to use \chaptername. I couldn't find any documentation on it either,
although I was certain that it could be done. I am surprised that there
is not a fixed style for that in Latex. Article is commonly used in
legal documents.
Well it's written by mathematicians and physicists for mathematicians and
physicists (mostly)
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Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
This sort of worked for me, but still had problems. 1) my Latex starts
chapters on a new page, which may or may not fit the bill. 2) In Lyx the
chapter command wants a title; I could not get just Article I. I'm sure
both of these are fixable, Latex can do virtually anything.
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20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет:
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could
give me a quick answer.
I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an
organization. The format should be as shown here:
Article I
Name
Bla-bla
section 1
section 2
Article II
Members
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Article}
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{\Roman{chapter}}
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Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
20.11.2012 01:25, Carmel пишет: I couldn't find any documentation on it either, although I was certain that it could be done. If you are going to use LaTeX, you definitely should learn it. There are many good free downlodable books out there. I am surprised that there is not a fixed style for that in Latex. Article is commonly used in legal documents. Imho there is no sence since it's a matter of one line of code. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
20.11.2012 01:48, Open Slate пишет: This sort of worked for me, but still had problems. 1) my Latex starts chapters on a new page, which may or may not fit the bill. 1. Don't use the book style to write an article. 2. Read the documentation. It's open, free and plenty. 2) In Lyx the chapter command wants a title; I could not get just Article I. I'm sure both of these are fixable, Latex can do virtually anything. Never used Lyx, so no comments here, sorry. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: From owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:13:45 + (UTC) RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. No way. UNIX command (on a command line, also called CLI), is anything between prompt (e.g. $) and ENTER, that is in general: $ command option option and this is how shell interprets it. There are simple commands as above, and command constructs as pipeline and lists, e.g. $ command options | command options ; command1; command2 but that does not change the meaning of how they are interpreted as commands. You got confused by portsnap(8) vocabulary, which is misleading: SYNOPSIS portsnap [-I] [-d workdir] [-f conffile] [-k KEY] [-l descfile] [-p portsdir] [-s server] command ... [path] ... COMMANDS The command can be any one of the following: fetchFetch a compressed snapshot of the ports tree, or update the ... The word command in SYNOPSIS is very unfortunate, outright wrong because misleading - it represents an option or a parameter to a command portsnap. This is how any command line parser/editor processes the entire entry. No magic here. This should explain your confusion in the rest of your post. ... In general, if I wanted to check for command completion code, which is quite common in UNIX CLI or scripting env, it would make a lot of difference if a command failed half way in both cases: 'portsnap fetch update; check-completion-code' and 'portsnap fetch; check-completion-code; portsnap update; check-completion-code' 'portsnap fetch update' is the EXACT equivalent of: 'portsnap fetch portsnap update; `check-completion-code'` No, it is not. Your CLI command line above is an example of a list (see bash(1)): ... Lists A list is a sequence of one or more pipelines separated by one of the operators ;, , , or ||, and optionally terminated by one of ;, , or newline. ... In other words, it is a CLI command that is a composition of INDEPENDENT commands, here logically linked with '. It is not the same as your list - the difference is, once again, that when I enter: $ portsnap fetch update this represents a CLI command, just one command with two options or params, as understood in UNIX and as explained at the very beginning of this post, regardless of how it is going to be executed internally (with subtasks fetch and update playing only internal and logical role in the context of that command's execution). It follows, that the completion code is of that one CLI command, and not a logical result of multiple commands in a list. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
2012/11/19 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz: On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't mention this at all, although I can find a lot of (not quite consistent) advises on the net on how to do it with gpart/newfs. Over the last week there has been a discussion with the subject Advanced Format Drive ? on this list that has been discussing that. If you only just signed up then you can search for it in the mail archives. There is a lot of useful info there, and I also found a lot of useful tips from Warren Block on how to create swap as a file, how to use tmpfs, about noatime etc. I didn't say anything about noatime, and personally have not done that on SSDs. However, nowhere I can found anything that could explain me for sure how to do this BEFORE that: I've got 240G Kingston SSD. I want this: win7: ada2s1 ~ 30G empty (probably for experimental little win7 install in the future) freebsd9: ada2s2a ~3G for / ada2s2d ~80G the for /usr (separated for easier backup) ada2s2f ~ the rest for storage How to do this with gpart, respecting 4g alignment etc? Can anybody share the exact commands to achieve this? That's 4K. Most of the following is shown in the new Handbook gmirror section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html Create the MBR partitioning scheme: # gpart create -s mbr ada2 Add MBR bootcode: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada2 Add the Windows 7 partition, forcing it to start at block 2048 because -a is not going to do what is expected for slices because of decades-old CHS stuff: # gpart add -t ntfs -b 2048 -s 30g ada2 Create the FreeBSD slice: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 Set this slice active and add FreeBSD bootcode: # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 Warren, great, thank you! Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2? Sergi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
LSI 2008 drivers
Good afternoon, We're looking to build a ZFS storage device with FreeBSD version 8.3, however, the Supermicro based hardware comes with LSI 2008 SAS controller card and we were told that LSI / Supermicro doesn't have a driver for FreeBSD. We're just wondering if the LSI 2008 is supported under FreeBSD version 8.3? Please advise. Thanks. Philip Alltek Supplies, Inc. Phone: (714)482-0770 www.allteksupplies.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/usr/sbin/ppp doubling connections on tun0
I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp for PPPoE over an ADSL modem in bridged mode: # ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 options=8LINKSTATE inet 203.217.27.170 -- 203.215.15.252 netmask 0x inet 203.214.46.107 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Opened by PID 49158 What would cause this? Notice the two IP addresses assigned to the same interface. It should just have one address assigned. Something causes the initial PPPoE session to stop, then another to restart without properly closing the previous PPPoE session. I'm not sure when this started happening but I've noticed it's become more frequent in the past few weeks. One theory I have is that it may have begun after I upgraded FreeBSD from 8.2 to 8.3 a few months back. I suppose concurrent PPPoE sessions aren't the end of the world, but obviously it makes no sense to have two on the same interface, so I'd like to prevent that. (Strictly speaking they aren't concurrent as the previously allocated IP [203.217.27.170 in the case above] no longer responds to pings, etc. It's dead, Jim.) The multiple IP addresses also causes /usr/ports/dns/ddclient to get confused and not tell DynDNS when a new IP address has been assigned, although perhaps that's a bug (sort of) in ddclient. I notice FreeBSD PR 151400 mentions: The patch also makes a small change to how ppp(8) destroys interfaces at exit. Instead of just dealiasing interfaces and leaving them behind, they are now destroyed in the same manner ifconfig destroy works. I wonder if that's the cause? If I get a chance I'll try building a local copy of /usr/sbin/ppp with the patch reverted and test that, although it can be a difficult problem to replicate. Plus of course the patch doesn't explain the initial disconnections. I suspect that's an issue unrelated to /usr/sbin/ppp though. # cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf default: set log phase chat lcp ipcp ccp tun command lqm set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 nat enable yes disable lqr disable ipv6cp set echoperiod 30 enable echo iinet: set device PPPoE:bge0 set authname secret set authkey secret set dial set login set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set redial 15 0 add default HISADDR # grep ppp /etc/rc.conf ppp_enable=YES ppp_mode=ddial ppp_nat=YES ppp_profile=iinet # uname -a FreeBSD blizzard.phoenix 8.3-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 00:39:29 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 In the meantime I've switched to using mpd5 (/usr/ports/net/mpd5) and /sbin/ipnat. So far, so good: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 124.170.51.116 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Regards Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
PPPoA section of FreeBSD Handbook
On Tue 2012-11-20 11:49:38 UTC+1100, andrew clarke (m...@ozzmosis.com) wrote: In the meantime I've switched to using mpd5 (/usr/ports/net/mpd5) and /sbin/ipnat. So far, so good: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 124.170.51.116 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Incidentally the PPPoA section of the FreeBSD is very out of date: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoa.html The ambiguously named net/pppoa port in section 28.6.1 has been marked as broken since 2009. (Ambiguous since it's only for a particular brand of USB ASDL modem.) In section 28.6.2 the example provided is a config file for mpd 4.x which does not work in mpd 5.x. net/mpd4 was deleted from the ports tree 11 months ago. net/mpd5 doesn't seem to support PPPoA, only PPPoE. I could find no reference to PPPoA in the manual or source code. The net/pptpclient port listed in section 28.6.3 does build but issues errors when run: # pptp 192.168.1.1 iinet /bin/ip: not found /bin/ip: not found Plus it's not clear what advantage it's supposed to have over the regular /usr/sbin/ppp. The pptp source code doesn't mention PPPoA, despite what the FreeBSD handbook suggests. Regards Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2? Sorry, typo. FreeBSD does not have to be the first slice. # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: LSI 2008 drivers
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:41 -0800, Alltek Supplies Tech Support/Customer Service wrote: Good afternoon, We're looking to build a ZFS storage device with FreeBSD version 8.3, however, the Supermicro based hardware comes with LSI 2008 SAS controller card and we were told that LSI / Supermicro doesn't have a driver for FreeBSD. We're just wondering if the LSI 2008 is supported under FreeBSD version 8.3? The on-board LSI2008 chips on Supermicro boards work fine with 8.3. That said, I did update mine with the BIOS+firmware from LSI. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2? Sorry, typo. FreeBSD does not have to be the first slice. # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s2 Hm, still doesn't work. Look: # gpart destroy -F ada2 ada2 destroyed # gpart create -s mbr ada2 ada2 created # gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada2 bootcode written to ada2 # gpart add -t ntfs -b 2048 -s 30g ada2 ada2s1 added # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 gpart: arg0 'ada2s2': Invalid argument S. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /usr/sbin/ppp doubling connections on tun0
Hi, On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:49:39 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp for PPPoE over an ADSL modem in bridged mode: # ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 options=8LINKSTATE inet 203.217.27.170 -- 203.215.15.252 netmask 0x inet 203.214.46.107 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Opened by PID 49158 I noticed the same behaviour in wlan0 recently. I upgraded last night. After checking just now, wlan0 has only one IP address. I do not know if this is linked. I am running 10.0. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2? Sorry, typo. FreeBSD does not have to be the first slice. # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s2 Hm, still doesn't work. Look: # gpart destroy -F ada2 ada2 destroyed # gpart create -s mbr ada2 ada2 created # gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada2 bootcode written to ada2 # gpart add -t ntfs -b 2048 -s 30g ada2 ada2s1 added # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 gpart: arg0 'ada2s2': Invalid argument I know I've seen that, but can't recall what causes it. You can try retasting before creating the BSD partitions: # true /dev/ada2 # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: I know I've seen that, but can't recall what causes it. You can try retasting before creating the BSD partitions: # true /dev/ada2 # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 Sorry, no difference: # gpart show ada2 = 63 468862065 ada2 MBR (223G) 63 2016- free - (1M) 2079 62914509 1 ntfs (30G) 62916588 405945540- free - (193G) # true /dev/ada2 # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 gpart: arg0 'ada2s2': Invalid argument S. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:48:01 -1000
Open Slate articulated:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Boris Samorodov b...@passap.ru
wrote:
20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет:
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone
could give me a quick answer.
I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for
an organization. The format should be as shown here:
Article I
Name
Bla-bla
section 1
section 2
Article II
Members
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Article}
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{\Roman{chapter}}
This sort of worked for me, but still had problems. 1) my Latex starts
chapters on a new page, which may or may not fit the bill. 2) In Lyx
the chapter command wants a title; I could not get just Article I.
I'm sure both of these are fixable, Latex can do virtually anything.
Use this to suppress the one chapter per page occurrence.
\usepackage{etoolbox}
\makeatletter
\patchcmd{\chapter}{\if@openright\cleardoublepage\else\clearpage\fi}{}{}{}
\makeatother
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Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:07:44 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Snip ... So how can I run rpd on the freebsd host running the virtualbox server system so I can access the configured vm? I this configuration even possible? I'll give it one last shot. CREATE/RUNNING ACCESSING ! CREATE/RUN guests needs X11 ? NO ! Right. It's *much* easier if you can X forward the GUI, but you can certainly configure everything you need with VBoxManage. Figuring out how to use it is a little tricky, because it's not particularly well documented, but it does work. ACCESSING guests needs X11 ? Depends on the guest. a) Guest = Consele head OS (FBSD, Lunux, etc..) = No need for x11/graphics on the local host or any other remote accessing host. b) Guest = Graphic head OS (windose, any *NIX w/ a graphic interface, Macs, etc..) = Yes, You will need x11 or some form of graphic interface running on the local host or any other remote accessing host. VirtualBox supports using VNC or RDP to see the guest's interface. I've used that feature to run Windows installs on headless servers. (I guess an OS that can run a VNC client counts as a graphic interface, though.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:05:41 + (UTC) Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: From owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:13:45 + (UTC) RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. No way. UNIX command (on a command line, also called CLI), is anything between prompt *NOBODY* said Unix command. _You_ falsely imputed that meaning to the respondants use of the word in a context with a different applicable meaning. 'command' has many meanings -- *especially* in the Unix environment. [drivelectomy] You persist in repeating your error. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon 2012-11-19 07:55:16 UTC-0500, Daniel Feenberg (feenb...@nber.org) wrote: The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. In a world where Windows drivers are rarely well-documented, let alone open source? I suspect what you suggest is easier said than done... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd 9 Startx
Issue solved; I forgot to edit .xinitrc. Cheers, Hooman On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:28:13 +, Hooman Oroojeni wrote: Dear All, I would like to use GUI in Freebsd 9, but I face with following error. Any idea to help is appreciated. You need to show the error message for diagnostics and suggestions better than pure guessing. :-) Meanwhile, allow me to point you do helpful resources that might be worth reading (just in case you didn't follow them yet): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4 http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html In case you have different trouble, please name the software you're intending to run (e. g. which window manager), what you have installed, the content of config files (such as .xinitrc or .xsession) and the commands you've entered, plus their output and error messages. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
There's a git repository. It's public. You can look at what goes into the FreeBSD git clone to get your assurance that things aren't being snuck in. People are using it, right now. I've always been confused by this. Which source repo is the true source of truth? To obtain the FreeBSD source, you can use CVS, SVN, or Git? Do all have the same level of support? Are they all up to date? Honestly, I'd rather see subversion grow this kind of cryptographic signing of each commit in the short term then migrate everyone over to git. How much effor would their really be involved, considering your link to the FreeBSD source repo on github. Converting the repos to me seems like it would be the bulk of it, and that work is already done. Help me understand please. Also, local branching and merging is amazing. -- Zach ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
http://www.fossil-scm.org/ I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Baptise Daroussin probably could tell us more about fossil pro and cons. This misses one of of the main points raised in the original post. The proliferation of git as a revision control system. Also, this particular tool bails out on the unix philosophy, with its web gui, ticket tracker etc. Do one thing. Do it well. -- Zach ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On 19 November 2012 22:04, Zach Leslie xaque...@gmail.com wrote: I've always been confused by this. Which source repo is the true source of truth? This changed a few months ago when ports and doc switched. As of now: - SVN is *the* source of truth. - CVS is exported from svn. It will eventually go away - git is exported from svn. It will remain as an option for developers (including myself). To obtain the FreeBSD source, you can use CVS, SVN, or Git? Do all have the same level of support? Are they all up to date? SVN is *always* up to date. We try really hard to keep the others up to date, but fail at times. Also, local branching and merging is amazing. +1 - but one can always use git-svn. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:02:51 -0500, Carmel wrote:
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could
give me a quick answer.
I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an
organization. The format should be as shown here:
Article I
Name
Bla-bla
section 1
section 2
Article II
Members
And so on.
Looks simple.
I can accomplish this easily in MS Word;
No, you can't.
Means: You _can_ accomplish it in Word, but it won't be
easy, and it won't last. :-)
however, I have not
been able to find a way to make Latex use Article as opposed to
Chapter in its heading. I have to use Article I have Googled for
over a day without success.
Those have predefined styles which are usually fine fof
common use. In your case, you need a custom definition.
I _may_ be possible that it already exists, but I think
you would be quicker by doing your own.
I find it very strange that Latex doesn't
have an \article definition like \section and \chapter.
Because article first is a document class (document style),
and furthermore, it's just another structure name (heading).
The question could be, why is there no \subnumber or
\underparagraph? :-)
Is there
any way to do this or am I stuck with MS Word.
Luckily, you're not.
BTW, I did investigate
the titlesec package, but I did not see a way to accomplish it.
Sadly I'm not familiar with this package.
BUT.
What you're trying to create is something I've been requested
for typesetting a contract some years ago:
§ 1
Pups und Furz
§ 2
Schnarch und Dudel
So I think I can help here.
Define this in your preamble (before begin document):
\newcommand{\article}[1]{
\begin{center} {\bf Article \Roman{articlenr}\\#1} \end{center}
\addtocounter{articlenr}{1}}
You can easily put it into one line, I've made three here for
better reading.
Then _in_ your document (after begin document), _prior_ to your
first use of the \article command:
\newcounter{articlenr}
\setcounter{articlenr}{1}
And now you can use it:
\article{Name}
The name is foo.
\article{Members}
The members will be present.
And so on.
In my original document it has been called \para and \paranr
(to be used with the german word Paragraph and the sign §);
check if there is a _naming conflict_
If you don't need the bold font style, remove the {\bf and
the } (after \\#1) in the definition. It's dirty lower-level
hack anyway. :-)
If you need vertical spacing infront of a new paragraph
(additional space to what LaTeX puts there anyway), you
can use \vspace{1.0cm} for example - in the definition.
There is still one downside: It doesn't integrate into the
numbering scheme of \section, \subsection and so on. In my
case, I've been using the enumerate environment within
the articles for sectioning, which was sufficient in case
of that contract.
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:27:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free hardware and software? maybe 64-bit only to start? most of us who are still alive and contributing *something* might be interested in this. Even though it's not x86, this might be interesting as it is _really_ open: http://cubieboard.org/ You can freely obtain schematics, dimensions, components... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:46:45AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:27:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free hardware and software? maybe 64-bit only to start? most of us who are still alive and contributing *something* might be interested in this. Even though it's not x86, this might be interesting as it is _really_ open: yeah, but I NEED x86 http://cubieboard.org/ You can freely obtain schematics, dimensions, components... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:35:15 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:46:45AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:27:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free hardware and software? maybe 64-bit only to start? most of us who are still alive and contributing *something* might be interested in this. Even though it's not x86, this might be interesting as it is _really_ open: yeah, but I NEED x86 In this case, I think there are no really free technical concepts or projects - too much lawyer blah and patents of swinging on a swing. :-( However, paying attention _what_ to buy can save from a lot of troubles; read prior to buying is well invested time if you want your devices to be compliant to existing standards and will therefor be compatible to FreeBSD. This usually applies to printers, wireless networking gear, and USB shenanigans. With FreeBSD development on ARM, there might be future niche markets where non-x86 hardware will be more popular even for today's normal PC use. Electrical energy is becoming more expensive, and the throwaway mentality is growing stronger (cf. Jevons paradox), so cheaper devices, usually created in the ARM realm could become a significant factor. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
