Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64
Hi, On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:13:39 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: ok, so FreeBSD release is the version of the kernel and not a labelling for the collection of all the software. yes. It is even so that the ports work on all 'current' FreeBSD versions but not the packages. With other words, you will download always the same source files for 7.4, 8.3, 9.0, 9.1 and 10.0 but compile it then for your version. For Linux major distros there usually is a labelling for the collection of the software, independent of the kernel version. On Linux I usually install binaries for the base system and desktop environment, but for important software, in my case it's audio, compiling from source is very important. This does not really matter here. It is only that you might do not have the options compiled in you will need when using the binary. The author of the snd_hdspe driver for FreeBSD seems to need testers. I never have heard of this driver. It seems to be that nobody ever tested if ADAT is working and I'll test it. OTOH I suspect bug fixes for the driver have to be added by recompiling the kernel or at least the driver for the kernel, so I still could use binaries for the applications. Using sources for the kernel is then the way to go. Binaries could work if the required options are compiled in. You can mix binaries and source within the applications. I do this all the while. I install very often the binary and compile later from sources. Since audio on FreeBSD seems to be a niche, I wonder if it's more promising, to go the source or to go the binary rout. Source is the more promissing route here as niches are not supported by default. There are some rare cases in which options exclude each other. So, if you have strange hardware, source is the only route. I suspect if it's impossible or at least less good to mix binaries and from source build software for FreeBSD, I should chose to build from source. You can mix. If it works, it works. If not, it is most likely an option not compiled in you would need. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about unattended installation
Good morning, El 19/12/2012, a las 19:59, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com escribió: On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote: Good afternoon, One little question… I'm trying to have ready our new unattended FreeBSD installation system. Until now, I have been using Sysinstall scripting file but now with 9.1 out I think it's moment to start using BSDInstaller in the unattended installation process. Hold on a moment. You might want to wait until 9.2. (read more below) Well in the ftp can be seen : FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso downloadable file…. so I assume it's a release??? I have seen the new installer, works basically like an script…. my real question is… before I did in install.cfg something like : disk=da0 partition=all bootManager=standard diskPartitionEditor da0s1-1=ufs 3072000 / da0s1-2=swap 8096000 none da0s1-3=ufs 20485760 /var 1 da0s1-4=ufs 30720760 /usr 1 da0s1-5=ufs 0 /expert 1 diskLabelEditor Now I assume there's no way of getting this same through any command like… 'bsdinstall partedit ___' am I wrong??. You're correct. In 9.0 and 9.1, it's just not feasible to man-handle the user interface (partedit) as one could sysinstall. (read below about 9.2) So I suppose that till the new installer is able to handle this in a similar way to sysinstall (although the syntax to be different or whatever)…. or partitioning can be achieved in some non interactive way, to maintain the possibility of rebuilding one's own release in order to be able to use sysinstall and to be able to maintain working unattended installation systems…. because this is essential for some of us….. and of course sysinstall to still continue working :)... So I assume all should be done by hand like this example of the Handbook : # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1k count=1 # fdisk -BI da1 #Initialize your new disk # bsdlabel -B -w da1s1 auto #Label it. # bsdlabel -e da1s1 # Edit the bsdlabel just created and add any partitions. # mkdir -p /1 # newfs /dev/da1s1e # Repeat this for every partition you created. # mount /dev/da1s1e /1 # Mount the partition(s) # vi /etc/fstab # Add the appropriate entry/entries to your /etc/fstab. In the auto script…. am I wrong?. If the answer is yes… could you point me to some documentation in order to be able to complete all this doc. The answer is (unfortunately) yes… that is until (hopefully) 9.2. It's an on-going significant amount of work to make add backward compatibility (so bsdinstall can load sysinstall install.cfg files). I'm not going to discuss the specifics here or yet, but I'm actively working on it. No docs on how to mangle the auto script to do what you want (that I know of). Ok then :) Apart from all this… is Sysinstall going to be maintained in parallel?. Sysinstall is dead. Devin, sysinstall should not be died till the new installer allows or exists a way of doing same thing than before we did in some manner or other one….. because else… don't know... can this commands be translated to gpart for example??… and to act in a non interactive way??. But apart from the own gpart the are later other parts of the installation which should be done too… like selecting which distributions to install in a non interactive way for example….. if that is not possible to be done… in a non interactive way…. sysinstall should not disappear…. The bsdinstall you know can be considered the first generation and accordingly is a bit spartan. I'm working hard on the next generation. My plan is to have 10.0 with bsdinstall able to run sysinstall scripts (for backward compatibility; can't yet say what 9.x release will be MFC'd to, but that could be 9.2). I'm planning one helluva BSDCan-2013 presentation. -- Devin Thanks a lot for all !! Best regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Sound lag in Wine
Hello. I installed David Naylor's wine-fbsd64-1.5.18. Installed Steam, bought Counter-Strike 1.6 and CS: CZ. However, when I run these games I experience a sound lag (maybe a half-second — second). I googled the topic, the soultion is to switch to Alsa, which is not supported in wine-fbsd64-1.5.18… Is there anything I can do to get rid of the lag? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to Make Customized Boot-able DVD or USB
Hi People, I was wondering if I could make a FreeBSD boot-able USB or DVD with pre-installed software and services such as DHCP Client/Server. I would be pleased if you could help me. Thanks Hooman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 8 or 9 on HP ML350 G8
Hi all, I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience running 8 or 9 on the ML350 G8. Is there anything that should be taken into consideration while using these chassis' such as having 2 or more of the built-in RAID controllers activated? Potential issues with disk volumes of varying sizes (like, 2T or more)? Any special BIOS settings or firmware versions? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote: I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-) :) Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook? At the moment I've got plenty of time, unfortunately not in front of my desktop computer. Some time ago I won an iPad2, it's a dust catcher, nice hardware, but odd software. I wonder if its possible to use it as a reader. The problem is, that I can't connect the iPad to the Internet and using iTunes (a disgusting application) in a virtual machine until now I'm only able to use iBooks, but I don't know how to transmit plain txt, pdf, html or what ever from the PC to the iPad. If somebody should know how I can get the FreeBSD handbook on my iPad that would be a help, so I could spend more time in reading how to handle FreeBSD. On VirtualBox (it doesn't work with wine) I run Win XP + iTunes and I connect the PC and iPad by USB. No jailbreake, but if it would help I would jailbraeke it. I tried to set up Linux to do ad-hoc by an USB WiFi stick, but it never worked. It would be nice to run Linux or FreeBSD on the iPad ;). Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't get start_precmd to do *anything*
--On December 19, 2012 11:07:27 PM + Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the current invocation: start_precmd=pads_agent_ck4fifo() Lose the parentheses in the above line (this isn't C :) ) Well, doh! I'll figure out how to read some day. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64
On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote: I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-) :) Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook? You can get it as a PDF at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ and you can then view that on your iPad. Look for the Bookshelf or some such, I use an iPod Touch and while similar, they are not identical to the iPad. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 15:52 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: The author of the snd_hdspe driver for FreeBSD seems to need testers. I never have heard of this driver. It's a new driver for FreeBSD for some cards of the vendor RME, AFAIK they only sell really professional audio cards, used for broadcasting and by professional audio studios. I never heard of professional audio studios using FreeBSD, so it's very likely that FreeBSD users seldom spend that much money for cards, that ship with all kinds of audio interfaces, that aren't needed for averaged audio usage. I was a professional audio and video engineer, but for my home studio I only bought a relatively cheap RME card, the HDSPe AIO. http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_aio.php It comes with stereo AD/DA converters only, every elCheapo on-board audio device has got more AD/DA IOs. Costs around 500,- EUR / 650,- USD. Other RME gear is much more expensive. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about unattended installation
On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote: Good morning, El 19/12/2012, a las 19:59, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com escribió: On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote: Good afternoon, One little question… I'm trying to have ready our new unattended FreeBSD installation system. Until now, I have been using Sysinstall scripting file but now with 9.1 out I think it's moment to start using BSDInstaller in the unattended installation process. Hold on a moment. You might want to wait until 9.2. (read more below) Well in the ftp can be seen : FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso downloadable file…. so I assume it's a release??? Of course it's a release… it just may not be the release that solves your problem w/respect to scripting bsdinstall like sysinstall. That will come in a future release (like 9.2). I have seen the new installer, works basically like an script…. my real question is… before I did in install.cfg something like : disk=da0 partition=all bootManager=standard diskPartitionEditor da0s1-1=ufs 3072000 / da0s1-2=swap 8096000 none da0s1-3=ufs 20485760 /var 1 da0s1-4=ufs 30720760 /usr 1 da0s1-5=ufs 0 /expert 1 diskLabelEditor Now I assume there's no way of getting this same through any command like… 'bsdinstall partedit ___' am I wrong??. You're correct. In 9.0 and 9.1, it's just not feasible to man-handle the user interface (partedit) as one could sysinstall. (read below about 9.2) So I suppose that till the new installer is able to handle this in a similar way to sysinstall (although the syntax to be different or whatever)…. or partitioning can be achieved in some non interactive way, to maintain the possibility of rebuilding one's own release in order to be able to use sysinstall and to be able to maintain working unattended installation systems…. because this is essential for some of us….. and of course sysinstall to still continue working :)… You got it. This is a sign to the releng team and everybody else that 10.0 should most-likely not see the light of day until bsdinstall can pass the sniff-test for those of us (like you and I) which rely on the ability to script the installation process fully. So I assume all should be done by hand like this example of the Handbook : # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1k count=1 # fdisk -BI da1 #Initialize your new disk # bsdlabel -B -w da1s1 auto #Label it. # bsdlabel -e da1s1 # Edit the bsdlabel just created and add any partitions. # mkdir -p /1 # newfs /dev/da1s1e # Repeat this for every partition you created. # mount /dev/da1s1e /1 # Mount the partition(s) # vi /etc/fstab # Add the appropriate entry/entries to your /etc/fstab. In the auto script…. am I wrong?. If the answer is yes… could you point me to some documentation in order to be able to complete all this doc. The answer is (unfortunately) yes… that is until (hopefully) 9.2. It's an on-going significant amount of work to make add backward compatibility (so bsdinstall can load sysinstall install.cfg files). I'm not going to discuss the specifics here or yet, but I'm actively working on it. No docs on how to mangle the auto script to do what you want (that I know of). Ok then :) Apart from all this… is Sysinstall going to be maintained in parallel?. Sysinstall is dead. Devin, sysinstall should not be died till the new installer allows or exists a way of doing same thing than before we did in some manner or other one….. And, you're absolutely right. Some facts/history: a. I'm not the one that killed it (on the contrary, like yourself, I was vehemently arguing against its death -- like you say, UNTIL whatever replacement could offer the same features). ASIDE: You can see my arguing the same points your making now at the below link to the mailing-list archives: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-sysinstall/2011-February/000369.html ASIDE: There's a lot of arguments for keeping sysinstall in the above-linked mailing-list, but at the end of the day, we have to realize that sysinstall was not being worked on to provide the features that the angry mob of users was demanding (GPT, ZFS, Geli, etc.) so the 15-year inertia that sysinstall enjoyed had to be ended. There will be people like yourself and me that disagree with the timeline of events that led to the demise of sysinstall in the 10.0-CURRENT line, but all I can say is that there is Ron McDowell (may he rest in peace) vehemently recognized the short-coming and dedicated our lives to filling it (and for Ron, actually the final year of his life was spent working on this project -- a truly selfless act if there ever was one). b. It's officially dead in the 10.0-CURRENT line (read:
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:57 -0500, Paul Kraus wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote: I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-) :) Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook? You can get it as a PDF at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ and you can then view that on your iPad. Look for the Bookshelf or some such, I use an iPod Touch and while similar, they are not identical to the iPad. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/de/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2 iBookshelf Lite 2.12.4 has got a file sharing option, so I added the above extracted archives by renamed PDFs (FreeBSD Handbook de.pdf, FreeBSD Handbook en.pdf), but after sync they still are not available. I renamed the files (bsdde.pdf, bsden.pdf), added them and synced again, but they are still not available. The PDFs can be opened by Linux. VBox, resp. iTunes has got access to the files and sync between VBox and the iPad does work for other data. However, it's OT for this list. Anyway, thank you :) Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
about unattended installation
Though I do have a need for completely unattended and/or network installs, I don't have a need to continue with sysinstall.cfg. Whatever is done, be sure not to hobble any new installer out of some perceived need to be backwards compatible, or invest much time in being so. Writing and using a config isn't that hard. Since drives tend to be shuffled about, keying different configs off MAC address from shell has been nice. A MAC primitive in the config vs. old ifconfig could be handy. As might any smbios serial options. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 07:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:57 -0500, Paul Kraus wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote: I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-) :) Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook? You can get it as a PDF at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ and you can then view that on your iPad. Look for the Bookshelf or some such, I use an iPod Touch and while similar, they are not identical to the iPad. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/de/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2 iBookshelf Lite 2.12.4 has got a file sharing option, so I added the above extracted archives by renamed PDFs (FreeBSD Handbook de.pdf, FreeBSD Handbook en.pdf), but after sync they still are not available. I renamed the files (bsdde.pdf, bsden.pdf), added them and synced again, but they are still not available. The PDFs can be opened by Linux. VBox, resp. iTunes has got access to the files and sync between VBox and the iPad does work for other data. However, it's OT for this list. Anyway, thank you :) Ralf PS: I installed two other gratis apps. Offline Reader ! 2.0 and PDF Reader Lite 1.2.3, the first app seems to be useless and when I downloaded it, I was asked if I'm = 17 years old :D, but the second app does receive and display the handbooks named bsdde.pdf, bsden.pdf :) Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
