Re: Possibly OT: NFS vs SMB performance

2013-07-06 Thread Andrea Venturoli

On 07/05/13 20:42, Terje Elde wrote:

On 5. juli 2013, at 18:18, Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it wrote:


Is this normal in your experience?


Did you do them in that order, or did you do the smb (slow) one first?

If the slow was first, I'm thinking caching on the server could be a major 
factor.


Yesterday I did four test:
_ SMB find resulting in over 10 minutes first time;
_ SMB find resulting in nearly 10 minutes second time;
_ NFS find resulting in a little over 1 minute first time;
_ NFS find resulting in a little less than 1 minute second time.


Today I tried again in reverse order:
_ NFS find took 3 minutes;
_ NFS find again took 21 seconds;
_ SMB find took over 9 minutes;
_ SMB find again took again over 9 minutes.

So, while caching plays a role, it just isn't it.
The server was possibly doing other things, so the above figures might 
not be that correct; however a difference in the magnitude order is just 
too big (and deterministic) to be considered random noise.


 bye  Thanks
av.
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C++11 not working anymore with clang 3.2

2013-07-06 Thread David Demelier
Hello there,

I've installed the c++ (libc++ library) like this :

make -C /usr/src/lib/libcxxrt all install
make CXX=clang -C /usr/src/lib/libc++ all install

Then, I was able to compile with clang++ using -std=c++11 -stdlib=libc++.

And now, after the clang-3.2 update I can't build anymore, I get this error:

/usr/local/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/irccd.dir/Irccd.cpp.o: undefined reference to 
symbol '__cxa_free_exception@@CXXABI_1.3'
/usr/local/bin/ld: note: '__cxa_free_exception@@CXXABI_1.3' is defined in DSO 
//lib/libcxxrt.so.1 so try adding it to the linker command line
//lib/libcxxrt.so.1: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see 
invocation)
*** [irccd/irccd] Error code 1

I've also tried recompiling libc++ and libcxxrt with the last clang++ but it 
didn't help.

Regards,

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Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install

2013-07-06 Thread Simon
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:43:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote:

 I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and
 installed.  After completing the install, boot fails with:

 ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.

That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk 
layout when it finds GPT.


Does this mean GPT is not supported by this system? I thought
GPT is supposed to replace MBR and UEFI is the future. Perhaps
there is something in UEFI that can be tweaked to make it work
with GPT?

-Simon


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Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install

2013-07-06 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 6 Jul 2013, Simon wrote:


On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:43:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote:


I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and
installed.  After completing the install, boot fails with:

ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.



That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk
layout when it finds GPT.



Does this mean GPT is not supported by this system?


Kind of the opposite: UEFI expects GPT, but also expects a particular 
set of partitions.  And then there's the SecureBoot situation.


I thought GPT is supposed to replace MBR and UEFI is the future. 
Perhaps there is something in UEFI that can be tweaked to make it work 
with GPT?


Yes.  There should be some sort of legacy boot.  In UEFI mode, 
SecureBoot can be disabled, so with the correct partition layout FreeBSD 
should boot even in UEFI (untested, I do not yet have a UEFI system).

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Is this a memory error?

2013-07-06 Thread Dennis Glatting
Is this message indicating I have a memory error? I'm seeing this
message across two systems, one below:


FreeBSD mc 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #0 r252678: Thu Jul  4 03:47:52
PDT 2013 root@mc:/usr/obj/disk-1/src/sys/SMUNI  amd64


Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Bank 2, Status 0x981a400c0176
Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0107, Status
0x
Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Vendor AuthenticAMD, ID 0x600f12, APIC
ID 72
Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: CPU 24 COR DCACHE L2 EVICT error
Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Misc 0x0


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Touch screen support in 9 Release

2013-07-06 Thread Ben Paley
Hello,

My employer is going to replace my aging laptop soon. We've always used Macs at 
work but I'd kinda like to get back to FreeBSD. His criteria are Windows 8 and 
a touch screen, mine is decent FreeBSD support.

So, what is the state of support for touch screens at the moment? Most if the 
information I can find is from four or five years ago, and I can't seem to find 
out what's going on now.

And, any recommendations for a machine? I'd be using it primarily for web 
development. 

Thanks for your help,
Ben
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Re: Is this a memory error?

2013-07-06 Thread jb
Dennis Glatting freebsd at pki2.com writes:

 
 Is this message indicating I have a memory error? I'm seeing this
 message across two systems, one below:
 
 FreeBSD mc 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #0 r252678: Thu Jul  4 03:47:52
 PDT 2013 root at mc:/usr/obj/disk-1/src/sys/SMUNI  amd64
 
 Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Bank 2, Status 0x981a400c0176
 Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0107, Status
 0x
 Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Vendor AuthenticAMD, ID 0x600f12, APIC
 ID 72
 Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: CPU 24 COR DCACHE L2 EVICT error
 Jul  4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Misc 0x0

Google search: kernel: MCA: Bank , Status  DCACHE L2 EVICT error

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-August/220060.html
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=24447
jb




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SV: Re: Possibly OT: NFS vs SMB performance

2013-07-06 Thread Leslie Jensen
Smb is slow by design compared to nfs. 
/Leslie


Skickat från min Samsung Mobil

 Originalmeddelande 
Från: Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it 
Datum:  
Till: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Rubrik: Re: Possibly OT: NFS vs SMB performance 
 
On 07/05/13 20:42, Terje Elde wrote:
 On 5. juli 2013, at 18:18, Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it wrote:

 Is this normal in your experience?

 Did you do them in that order, or did you do the smb (slow) one first?

 If the slow was first, I'm thinking caching on the server could be a major 
 factor.

Yesterday I did four test:
_ SMB find resulting in over 10 minutes first time;
_ SMB find resulting in nearly 10 minutes second time;
_ NFS find resulting in a little over 1 minute first time;
_ NFS find resulting in a little less than 1 minute second time.


Today I tried again in reverse order:
_ NFS find took 3 minutes;
_ NFS find again took 21 seconds;
_ SMB find took over 9 minutes;
_ SMB find again took again over 9 minutes.

So, while caching plays a role, it just isn't it.
The server was possibly doing other things, so the above figures might 
not be that correct; however a difference in the magnitude order is just 
too big (and deterministic) to be considered random noise.

  bye  Thanks
av.
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Re: Possibly OT: NFS vs SMB performance

2013-07-06 Thread Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez
On Saturday 06 July 2013 01:55:31 Andrea Venturoli wrote:
 On 07/05/13 20:42, Terje Elde wrote:
  On 5. juli 2013, at 18:18, Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it wrote:
  Is this normal in your experience?
 
  Did you do them in that order, or did you do the smb (slow) one first?
 
  If the slow was first, I'm thinking caching on the server could be a
  major factor.

 Yesterday I did four test:
 _ SMB find resulting in over 10 minutes first time;
 _ SMB find resulting in nearly 10 minutes second time;
 _ NFS find resulting in a little over 1 minute first time;
 _ NFS find resulting in a little less than 1 minute second time.


 Today I tried again in reverse order:
 _ NFS find took 3 minutes;
 _ NFS find again took 21 seconds;
 _ SMB find took over 9 minutes;
 _ SMB find again took again over 9 minutes.

 So, while caching plays a role, it just isn't it.
 The server was possibly doing other things, so the above figures might
 not be that correct; however a difference in the magnitude order is just
 too big (and deterministic) to be considered random noise.


the problem may be high log level for Samba

You should read this

http://www.hob-techtalk.com/2009/03/09/nfs-vs-cifs-aka-smb
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install on external hdd

2013-07-06 Thread Nazar Kazakov
Hello everyone, I am new in FreeBSD. I want to install from DVD FreeBSD on an 
external hdd and I get an error when running the program partitioning. When I 
press alt + ctrl + F3, last lines: 
rm: /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/fstab: No such file or directory
Running installation step: autopart
Segmentation fault
Running installation step: umount

I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot 
computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting 
bsdinstall, that's what I brought:

usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
USB_ERR_STALLED
usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
USB_ERR_STALLED
usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
USB_ERR_STALLED
ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected)
uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device

As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted.
Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 
3.0.

Please, help.
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Re: install on external hdd

2013-07-06 Thread Polytropon
Your research is correct so far.

On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:18:11 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote:
 I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks.
 Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected
 it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought:
 
 usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
 usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
 USB_ERR_STALLED
 usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
 usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
 USB_ERR_STALLED
 usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
 usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
 USB_ERR_STALLED
 ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected)
 uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device

It should not matter when the disk is attached; bsdinstall
will operate on any disk recognized by the system, no matter
if detected at program runtime or system boot.



 As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted.

The disk is not _recognized_. Only a file system can be
mounted (which requires the disk to be recognized). For
a USB disk, from the /dev/ugenX.Y device a /dev/daX device
will be generated, corresponding to the disk. The process
you've shown above does not even reach that step.

If you go to the shell, you can enter dmesg to see the
last messages that will be the same. You can also check
the content of /dev regarding daX devices (ls /dev/da*)
or use camcontrol devlist to check if they are present.



 Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer
 does not have usb 3.0.

Yes, this looks like a typical cannot connect error.
Normally, a USB 3 disk would switch down to USB 2.
But USB 3 has a different current requirement, so it
could be possible that the power drain from the USB port
is insufficient for the disk to work properly. Can you
try to attach a separate power supply to the disk?
For USB 3, _all_ involved parts (disk, cable, ports,
controller, OS) need to be in USB 3 mode, else it
probably won't work.




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install on external hdd

2013-07-06 Thread Nazar Kazakov
In dmesg repeats the old conclusion that I wrote, but in dmesg I found 
information about five usbus and all except the last one (it has 2.0) written 
usb 1.0. I tried to connect the hdd to last, but failed. Also about usbus 
written that they are 2-port hub (probably built into the motherboard). In the 
first four usbus is intel UHCI root HUB, at the last - intel EHCI root HUB
ls / dev / da * finds nothing
camcontrol devlist outputs only DVD RW

My hdd has an input for an external power supply, and it is already connected 
to a second usb port.

07.07.2013, 00:37, Polytropon free...@edvax.de:

  Your research is correct so far.

  On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:18:11 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote:
   I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks.
   Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected
   it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought:

   usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
   usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
 USB_ERR_STALLED
   usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, 
 ignored)
   usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
 USB_ERR_STALLED
   usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, 
 ignored)
   usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, 
 USB_ERR_STALLED
   ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected)
   uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device
  It should not matter when the disk is attached; bsdinstall
  will operate on any disk recognized by the system, no matter
  if detected at program runtime or system boot.
   As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted.
  The disk is not _recognized_. Only a file system can be
  mounted (which requires the disk to be recognized). For
  a USB disk, from the /dev/ugenX.Y device a /dev/daX device
  will be generated, corresponding to the disk. The process
  you've shown above does not even reach that step.

  If you go to the shell, you can enter dmesg to see the
  last messages that will be the same. You can also check
  the content of /dev regarding daX devices (ls /dev/da*)
  or use camcontrol devlist to check if they are present.
   Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer
   does not have usb 3.0.
  Yes, this looks like a typical cannot connect error.
  Normally, a USB 3 disk would switch down to USB 2.
  But USB 3 has a different current requirement, so it
  could be possible that the power drain from the USB port
  is insufficient for the disk to work properly. Can you
  try to attach a separate power supply to the disk?
  For USB 3, _all_ involved parts (disk, cable, ports,
  controller, OS) need to be in USB 3 mode, else it
  probably won't work.

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  Magdeburg, Germany
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Re: install on external hdd

2013-07-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 01:15:48 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote:
 In dmesg repeats the old conclusion that I wrote, but in dmesg
 I found information about five usbus and all except the last
 one (it has 2.0) written usb 1.0.

 I tried to connect the hdd to last, but failed.

Looks like a current issue. From WP:

A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0,
and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device may draw a
maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port
in USB 2.0; 6 (900 mA) in USB 3.0.

If the disk needs more than 500 mA to spin up and start
properly, it won't work on a USB 2.0 port unless you
use the external power supply.



 Also about usbus written that they are 2-port hub (probably
 built into the motherboard). In the first four usbus is intel
 UHCI root HUB, at the last - intel EHCI root HUB

That kind of combination can often be found. My older home PC
also had this kind of configuration (Intel EHCI, VIA UHCI).



 ls / dev / da * finds nothing
 camcontrol devlist outputs only DVD RW

This shows that the disk isn't recognized by the OS, therefore
not usable in any disk-related operation.



 My hdd has an input for an external power supply, and it is
 already connected to a second usb port.

Also check the USB cable. Sometimes a partially defective
cable causes this kind of trouble.




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Re: Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-07-06 Thread Mike C.
On 07/03/13 01:30, Mike C. wrote:
 On 06/23/13 23:57, CeDeROM wrote:
 Hey :-) For my Dell laptop the backlight is controlled by hardware,
 unlike sound keys where you can assign them to use
 xf86audiovolumeup/down (or similar) to interact with mixer. I would
 search for automatic backlight hothey that would block manual control,
 or BIOS settings (like automatic backlight) or maybe new BIOS would
 fix that problem..?
 Best regards,
 Tomek

 --
 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info

 I don't hae any BIOS settings for this... I have the most recent version
 of my bios but this Ultrabooks don't really have many options :)


I tried the xbrightness port, but no luck however I don't really
understand the error:

xbrightness 1.0
xbrightness:  unable to open default display.


Could this be related to the fact that I've built Xorg with:
WITH_NEW_XORG=true
WITH_KMS=true

Thanks!
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Re: Possibly OT: NFS vs SMB performance

2013-07-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot

On 6 Jul 2013, at 21:34, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez 
mapsw...@prodigy.net.mx wrote:

 On Saturday 06 July 2013 01:55:31 Andrea Venturoli wrote:
 On 07/05/13 20:42, Terje Elde wrote:
 On 5. juli 2013, at 18:18, Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it wrote:
 Is this normal in your experience?
 
 Did you do them in that order, or did you do the smb (slow) one first?
 
 If the slow was first, I'm thinking caching on the server could be a
 major factor.
 
 Yesterday I did four test:
 _ SMB find resulting in over 10 minutes first time;
 _ SMB find resulting in nearly 10 minutes second time;
 _ NFS find resulting in a little over 1 minute first time;
 _ NFS find resulting in a little less than 1 minute second time.
 
 
 Today I tried again in reverse order:
 _ NFS find took 3 minutes;
 _ NFS find again took 21 seconds;
 _ SMB find took over 9 minutes;
 _ SMB find again took again over 9 minutes.
 
 So, while caching plays a role, it just isn't it.
 The server was possibly doing other things, so the above figures might
 not be that correct; however a difference in the magnitude order is just
 too big (and deterministic) to be considered random noise.
 
 the problem may be high log level for Samba
 
 You should read this
 
 http://www.hob-techtalk.com/2009/03/09/nfs-vs-cifs-aka-smb
 

Wow wow wow, their numbers with SMB seem super low.

They claim to get 80Mb/s NFS vs 7Mb SMB.

I'm getting 80-100Mbs with samba here with a core i3, 4gb of RAM and a 12tb 
raidz2 pool on GREEN drives, which are definitely not server grade (replacing 
them with WD reds, btw).

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Re: Possibly OT: NFS vs SMB performance

2013-07-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it wrote:

 Hello.

 Sorry to ask here: maybe it's not the best place, but it might be a start
 (the client and server are both FreeBSD).

 The server exports the same directory via NFS and via SMB.

 I'd expect some performance penalty when using SMB, but:
 find /nfs_mounted_dir /dev/null takes more or less 1 minute;
 find /smb_mounted_dir /dev/null takes nearly 10 minutes.

 Is this normal in your experience?


http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2013-January/038903.html

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