Re: change the settings for the xorg.

2013-08-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, July 31, 2013 a las 10:38:50PM -0700, Harold Hartley escribió:

 I haven't used Freebsd in such a long time that I'm now trying to setup  
 for the graphical screen.
 When I type startx xorg starts and xterm shows up and freezes. I want  
 to be able to use gnome, but I can't quite remember the directory  
 structure to the files I need to edit.

 The last time I played around with Freebsd was after the second release,  
 so its been a while for me.

 Can someone help me with where the files are that I need to edit so xorg  
 and gnome will come up when I start the system.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

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Re: change the settings for the xorg.

2013-08-01 Thread Harold Hartley

On 7/31/2013 11:18 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Wednesday, July 31, 2013 a las 10:38:50PM -0700, Harold Hartley escribió:


I haven't used Freebsd in such a long time that I'm now trying to setup
for the graphical screen.
When I type startx xorg starts and xterm shows up and freezes. I want
to be able to use gnome, but I can't quite remember the directory
structure to the files I need to edit.

The last time I played around with Freebsd was after the second release,
so its been a while for me.

Can someone help me with where the files are that I need to edit so xorg
and gnome will come up when I start the system.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

matthias

Thanks, I'm up and running.
Harold

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Freebsd SVN

2013-08-01 Thread Alexey Smirnov
Hello community.
I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux
machine using svn.
Here is error i got during this proccess.
ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd
svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org'
svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
 (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org)
ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd
svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org'
svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
 (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org)
ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd
svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org'
svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
 (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org)

So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it.
Thank you.
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Re: Freebsd SVN

2013-08-01 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46+0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote:

 Hello community.
 I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux
 machine using svn.
 Here is error i got during this proccess.
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org)
 
 So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it.
 Thank you.

Try one of these:

svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base  freebsd-all 
svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/head freebsd-head
svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/8 freebsd-stable-8
svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 freebsd-stable-9

For the ports collection, use only(!):

svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/ports/head freebsd-ports

BTW, it's nice to know there's an European svn mirror.

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Re: Freebsd SVN

2013-08-01 Thread Ulrik Søgaard
On 1 August 2013 11:46, Alexey Smirnov ramyale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello community.
 I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux
 machine using svn.
 Here is error i got during this proccess.
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org)

 So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it.
 Thank you.
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Make sure you have compiled SVN with SSL support, if you are going to use
the https mirrors.
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Re: Freebsd SVN

2013-08-01 Thread Alexey Smirnov
Thank you for the quick answer.
The addition of /base helps a lot )
Have a nice day,


2013/8/1 Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no

 On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46+0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote:

  Hello community.
  I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux
  machine using svn.
  Here is error i got during this proccess.
  ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd
  svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
  https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org'
  svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response:
 XML
  parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
   (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org)
  ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd
  svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
  https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org'
  svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response:
 XML
  parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
   (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org)
  ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd
  svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
  https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org'
  svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response:
 XML
  parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
   (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org)
 
  So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it.
  Thank you.

 Try one of these:

 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base  freebsd-all
 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/head freebsd-head
 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/8 freebsd-stable-8
 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 freebsd-stable-9

 For the ports collection, use only(!):

 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/ports/head freebsd-ports

 BTW, it's nice to know there's an European svn mirror.

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Re: Freebsd SVN

2013-08-01 Thread Alexandre
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Smirnov ramyale...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello community.
 I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux
 machine using svn.
 Here is error i got during this proccess.
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org)

 So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it.
 Thank you.

Hi Alexey,
There is an option to set before building the subversion application (#
make config). In the FreeBSD port devel/subversion this option is called
SERF - WebDAV/Delta-V (HTTP/HTTPS) repo access module.
I think the option is similar on youtr Linux system.

Kind regards,
Alexandre
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Re: Freebsd SVN

2013-08-01 Thread Alexey Smirnov
Thank you.
I already got the answer and evrything is ok now.


2013/8/1 Alexandre axel...@ymail.com

 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Smirnov ramyale...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello community.
 I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux
 machine using svn.
 Here is error i got during this proccess.
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response:
 XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response:
 XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org)
 ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd
 svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL '
 https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org'
 svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response:
 XML
 parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document
  (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org)

 So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it.
 Thank you.

 Hi Alexey,
 There is an option to set before building the subversion application (#
 make config). In the FreeBSD port devel/subversion this option is called
 SERF - WebDAV/Delta-V (HTTP/HTTPS) repo access module.
 I think the option is similar on youtr Linux system.

 Kind regards,
 Alexandre

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Unable to access http://sane-project.org/

2013-08-01 Thread Jerry
Not really a FreeBSD problem; however, I was wondering if anyone else
had been unable to access http://sane-project.org/ in the last 24 hours?

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Re: Unable to access http://sane-project.org/

2013-08-01 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:58-0400, Jerry wrote:

 Not really a FreeBSD problem; however, I was wondering if anyone else
 had been unable to access http://sane-project.org/ in the last 24 hours?

Confirmed inaccessible at work, both when URL was fed directly to my 
web browser and through the use of 
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://sane-project.org/


Trond.
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Re: Unable to access http://sane-project.org/

2013-08-01 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 01 Aug 2013 11:58:01 Jerry wrote:

 Not really a FreeBSD problem; however, I was wondering if anyone else
 had been unable to access http://sane-project.org/ in the last 24 hours?

http://www.isup.me/ is a useful site for instantly checking this sort of 
thing.

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learn

2013-08-01 Thread Teymur.Rahimzade
Hi.

Please help me to learn freebsd unix. 

 

Many thanks.

 

 

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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread Виталий Туровец
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

This should help a lot for sure :)


2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com

 Hi.

 Please help me to learn freebsd unix.



 Many thanks.





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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread herbert langhans
The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost
there. You know that, corebug.

I usually recommend the owl:
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596002619.do

Cheers
herb langhans


Message: 19
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:41:07 +0300
From: ??? ???  core...@corebug.net
To: Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: learn
Message-ID:
CAKB6gVj2MHkEhcAv27uZ=2-esfwzjzvw4h49v32lrbgrugz...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

This should help a lot for sure :)


2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
 Hi.
 Please help me to learn freebsd unix.
 Many thanks.

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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread Alexey Smirnov
I general i can not imagine that one could lost in FreeBSD handbook.
IMHO it is written very good and there you can find some basic things too.
There is whole chapter called Unix basics
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics.html
The name clearly suggests that it is quite basic!


2013/8/1 herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl

 The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost
 there. You know that, corebug.

 I usually recommend the owl:
 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596002619.do

 Cheers
 herb langhans


 Message: 19
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:41:07 +0300
 From: ??? ???  core...@corebug.net
 To: Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: learn
 Message-ID:
 CAKB6gVj2MHkEhcAv27uZ=
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

 This should help a lot for sure :)


 2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
  Hi.
  Please help me to learn freebsd unix.
  Many thanks.

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 herbert langhans, warschau
 office [at]langhans.com.pl
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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From: Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
To: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: learn
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:35:57 +0500

Hi.
Please help me to learn freebsd unix. 
Many thanks.

RTFM:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 01/08/2013 14:12, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 From: Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
 To: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: learn
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:35:57 +0500
 
 Hi.
 Please help me to learn freebsd unix. 
 Many thanks.
 
 RTFM:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Reading the manual is a good place to begin.  The other thing to do is
just play with the system -- try and do stuff with it.

You'll find this mailing list is a lot more useful if you ask more
specific questions.  'Help me learn this very wide area of knowledge'
is a bit nebulous, especially for people on this mailing list who are
volunteering their time and expertise for free.  Questions like 'How do
I do some particular task' will get you a lot further.

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200
From: herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: learn

The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost
there. You know that, corebug.

I completely disagree.

The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project.
In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation
effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me
start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried
several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available
documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed
for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the
FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install
and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9.

Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot.
The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource
I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice.

Anton
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Re: Technological Collabration

2013-08-01 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:19 PM, tronic solutions tronic...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 After carefully reviewing your services, we feel utterly confident that we 
 can help just as we’ve helped similar companies improve their profitability: 
 by providing you the same (or better!) quality IT services at significantly 
 lower cost. I tried calling you but haven’t managed to connect yet. I would 
 probably wish to have a discussion with you for exploring this opportunity  
 contributing to your needs.

Goes to show how careful you reviewed our services. This is a public
mailing list and what you have done is just shown a lot of people that
your IT company is not trustworthy.

Cheers,

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Inventory needed for August buy

2013-08-01 Thread Aaron Seligman
Happy hump-day, 

We have an opportunity with an RTB partner to monetize large amounts of display 
and video inventory. Currently we are looking for quality inventory in the 
following areas. 

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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread Mike Jeays
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST)
Anton Shterenlikht me...@bris.ac.uk wrote:

 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200
 From: herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: learn
 
 The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost
 there. You know that, corebug.
 
 I completely disagree.
 
 The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project.
 In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation
 effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me
 start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried
 several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available
 documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed
 for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the
 FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install
 and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9.
 
 Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot.
 The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource
 I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice.
 
 Anton
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Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using FreeBSD 
in 1997,
at version 2.2.something.

Greg Lehey's book The Complete FreeBSD is also excellent, and available as a 
free
download - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or purchases.

http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/

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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread aurfalien

On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mike Jeays wrote:

 On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST)
 Anton Shterenlikht me...@bris.ac.uk wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200
 From: herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: learn
 
 The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost
 there. You know that, corebug.
 
 I completely disagree.
 
 The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project.
 In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation
 effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me
 start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried
 several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available
 documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed
 for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the
 FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install
 and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9.
 
 Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot.
 The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource
 I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice.
 
 Anton
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 Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using FreeBSD 
 in 1997,
 at version 2.2.something.
 
 Greg Lehey's book The Complete FreeBSD is also excellent, and available as 
 a free
 download - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or purchases.
 
 http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/

I suggest downloading the USB image, combine that with Googling and bayam, off 
you go.

Of course, supplement with RTFMing which should always be at your side and all 
will be well.

And lastly, having membership on this fine list is key.  The FreeBSD community 
is indeed grand.

Hell, I may even get a hoody from the store :)

- aurf
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Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook...
To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you build
world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release...
after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release

What I WANT to know.. is what shell script  or file can I edit, to modify
the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a
line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created

I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing
/etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a
slightly modified install media for my own internal purposes...
eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote
install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking
for something simple that I can script.
any help or thoughts is appreciated
-- 

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Re: Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Teske, Devin

On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

 one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook...
 To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you build
 world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release...
 after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release
 
 What I WANT to know.. is what shell script  or file can I edit, to modify
 the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a
 line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created
 
 I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing
 /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a
 slightly modified install media for my own internal purposes...
 eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote
 install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking
 for something simple that I can script.
 any help or thoughts is appreciated

I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the 
release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here.

I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit, 
relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still relevant 
to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much of the knobs 
may still exist in HEAD).

Have a read through this revision-controlled text file...

http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patches/README?revision=1.2view=markup

ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn. My 
hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is a bit 
dated).

In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9):

make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \
MAKE=/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=-DDRUID make \
CHROOTDIR=/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=/usr/src KERNELS_BASE= \
NODOC=YES NO_FLOPPIES=YES NOCDROM=YES NOPORTS=YES \
WORLD_FLAGS=-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=-N \
LOCAL_PATCHES=/tmp/druid.patches \
LOCAL_SCRIPT=/tmp/local_script.sh | tee release.log

Take special note of the LOCAL_SCRIPT= option.

Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports 
LOCAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not?
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Re: Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Amitabh Kant
Devin Teske  Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their
blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for
links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links.

I the meantime , the following link has somewhat of my own notes for
creating a custom cd;
http://www.amitabhkant.com/custom_iso_with_bsdinstall_in_freebsd/

Does not cover all points, but hopefully should give you a starting point.
My link is only applicable for bsdinstall (9.0   9.1) based installers.

Amitabh Kant




On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.com wrote:

 one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook...
 To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you build
 world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release...
 after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release

 What I WANT to know.. is what shell script  or file can I edit, to modify
 the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a
 line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created

 I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing
 /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a
 slightly modified install media for my own internal purposes...
 eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote
 install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking
 for something simple that I can script.
 any help or thoughts is appreciated
 --

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Re: Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Amitabh Kant
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Amitabh Kant amitabhk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Devin Teske  Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their
 blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for
 links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links.

 I the meantime , the following link has somewhat of my own notes for
 creating a custom cd;
 http://www.amitabhkant.com/custom_iso_with_bsdinstall_in_freebsd/

 Does not cover all points, but hopefully should give you a starting point.
 My link is only applicable for bsdinstall (9.0   9.1) based installers.

 Amitabh Kant




 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.comwrote:

 one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook...
 To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you
 build
 world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release...
 after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release

 What I WANT to know.. is what shell script  or file can I edit, to modify
 the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a
 line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created

 I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing
 /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a
 slightly modified install media for my own internal purposes...
 eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote
 install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking
 for something simple that I can script.
 any help or thoughts is appreciated
 --

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Sorry for the top posting in my last email.

Amitabh
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Re: Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Amitabh Kant
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.comwrote:

 I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the
 release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here.

 I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit,
 relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still
 relevant to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much
 of the knobs may still exist in HEAD).

 Have a read through this revision-controlled text file...


 http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patches/README?revision=1.2view=markup

 ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn.
 My hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is
 a bit dated).

 In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9):

 make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \
 MAKE=/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=-DDRUID make \
 CHROOTDIR=/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=/usr/src KERNELS_BASE= \
 NODOC=YES NO_FLOPPIES=YES NOCDROM=YES NOPORTS=YES \
 WORLD_FLAGS=-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=-N \
 LOCAL_PATCHES=/tmp/druid.patches \
 LOCAL_SCRIPT=/tmp/local_script.sh | tee release.log

 Take special note of the LOCAL_SCRIPT= option.

 Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports
 LOCAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not?
 --
 Devin


Devin

Do you have any idea if there have an changes to bsdinstall process (on
scripting side) in the upcoming 9.2 ?

Amitabh
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Re: Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Teske, Devin

On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Amitabh Kant wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com 
 wrote:
 I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the 
 release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here.
 
 I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit, 
 relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still relevant 
 to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much of the 
 knobs may still exist in HEAD).
 
 Have a read through this revision-controlled text file...
 
 http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patches/README?revision=1.2view=markup
 
 ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn. My 
 hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is a bit 
 dated).
 
 In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9):
 
 make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \
 MAKE=/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=-DDRUID make \
 CHROOTDIR=/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=/usr/src KERNELS_BASE= \
 NODOC=YES NO_FLOPPIES=YES NOCDROM=YES NOPORTS=YES \
 WORLD_FLAGS=-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=-N \
 LOCAL_PATCHES=/tmp/druid.patches \
 LOCAL_SCRIPT=/tmp/local_script.sh | tee release.log
 
 Take special note of the LOCAL_SCRIPT= option.
 
 Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports 
 LOCAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not?
 --
 Devin
 
 Devin
 
 Do you have any idea if there have an changes to bsdinstall process (on 
 scripting side) in the upcoming 9.2 ? 
 

Yes, the partedit portion of bsdinstall is scriptable in 9.2. Also, many bug 
fixes. Also, you can now create /etc/installerconf (no `dot' between installer 
and conf) and it will be picked up and run by bsdinstall.

For your bsdinstall scripts, 2 new tools and a new framework to learn...

Tools: bsdconfig(8) and sysrc(8)
Framework: bsdconfig libraries (advanced scripting)

If you're behind on your sysinstall(8) *(yes... sysinstall(8)) scripting 
abilities, then I suggest you brush up.

* bsdconfig(8) is [mostly] backward compatible sysinstall(8) scripts

So... in your bsdinstal installerconf, you can:

# Example A
# ( do bsdinstall stuff ) then...
bsdconfig packages

# Example B
# ( do bsdinstall stuff ) then...
sysrc sshd_enable=YES

# Example C
# ( do bsdinstall stuff ) then...
. /usr/share/bsdconfig/script.subr || exit 1
for package in a-1.0 b-2.0 c-3.0; do
packageAdd
done

Here's a full list of items that bsdconfig(8) supports which are documented in 
sysinstall(8) (to which all you need to do to access is to include 
/usr/share/bsdconfig/script.subr):

loadConfig
deviceRescan
mediaOpen
mediaClose
mediaGetType
mediaSetCDROM
mediaSetDOS
mediaSetDirectory
mediaSetFloppy
mediaSetNFS
mediaSetUFS
mediaSetUSB
optionsEditor
tcpMenuSelect
mediaSetFTP
mediaSetFTPActive
mediaSetFTPPassive
mediaSetFTPUserPass
mediaSetHTTP
mediaSetHTTPProxy
configPCNFSD
configPackages
packageAdd
packageDelete
packageReinstall
installVarDefaults
dumpVariables

But that's only the tip of the iceberg. To get a full idea of what you can do 
with shell-script ALONE, you have to see the bsdconfig includes, which are in 
/usr/share/bsdconfig (link to what's released into 9.2 below):

http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share/

For example, there is:

common.subr -- stuff everybody should use (makes your code cleaner and gives 
you basic abilities missing in shell, like f_getvar -- partner to setvar)

device.subr -- scan for known devices and create structures with device info 
and type. Also provide routines for quickly scanning the array of structures 
for pre-probed devices of a specific type. Also contains code for presenting a 
menu of devices (of given type) to the user to select, returning the user's 
selection for processing.

dialog.subr -- a *monster* of a library (uber documented to boot). Allows clean 
abstraction of dialog to where either dialog(1) or Xdialog(1) is a simple 
proposition to interface to.

mustberoot.subr -- if your shell script needs to be able to run as non-root but 
escalate to root as-needed, this provides a clean way to transition to where 
your users seemlessly elevate.

script.subr -- a dummy include that includes all the other includes.

strings.subr -- handy string manipulation routines (tuned both for convenience 
and performance).

struct.subr -- hold information in structs (using shell!)

sysrc.subr -- manage rc.conf(5)!

variable.subr -- variable definitions (boring; unless you code on bsdconfig -- 
hey, think about writing a module sometime! I encourage it, it's fun!)

Beyond that... ( ok that's enough for this e-mail ).
-- 
Devin

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Re: Make Release

2013-08-01 Thread Teske, Devin

On Aug 1, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Teske, Devin wrote:

 
 On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Amitabh Kant wrote:
 
 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com 
 wrote:
 I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the 
 release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here.
 
 I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit, 
 relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still 
 relevant to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much 
 of the knobs may still exist in HEAD).
 
 Have a read through this revision-controlled text file...
 
 http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patches/README?revision=1.2view=markup
 
 ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn. My 
 hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is a 
 bit dated).
 
 In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9):
 
 make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \
MAKE=/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=-DDRUID make \
CHROOTDIR=/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=/usr/src KERNELS_BASE= \
NODOC=YES NO_FLOPPIES=YES NOCDROM=YES NOPORTS=YES \
WORLD_FLAGS=-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=-N \
LOCAL_PATCHES=/tmp/druid.patches \
LOCAL_SCRIPT=/tmp/local_script.sh | tee release.log
 
 Take special note of the LOCAL_SCRIPT= option.
 
 Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports 
 LOCAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not?
 --
 Devin
 
 Devin
 
 Do you have any idea if there have an changes to bsdinstall process (on 
 scripting side) in the upcoming 9.2 ? 
 
 
 [snip]
 Beyond that... ( ok that's enough for this e-mail ).

More includes (for the advanced scripting -- again, tapping into what 
/usr/share/bsdconfig/script.subr provides), there are sub-directories in 
/usr/share/bsdconfig (but again, script.subr brings them all in):

media/ -- one file for each type of media (FTP, HTTP, HTTP Proxy, NFS, ... etc.)
networking/ -- scripts for getting, setting, and interactively modifying network
packages/ -- package management
password/ -- root password
startup/ -- rc.conf(5) and startup services
timezone/ -- like tzsetup
usermgmt/ -- user management stuff

Each of those includes a lot of low-level functionality but it's all documented 
very well.

That being said... there's one more avenue of scripting.

All of the bsdconfig(8) modules that act as front-ends to the above libraries.

Those are in /usr/libexec/bsdconfig -- and you can call those from your 
bsdinstall ``/etc/installerconf'' too.

# Example A
/usr/libexec/bsdconfig/090.timezone/timezone

However, it's far easier to just say:

# Example B
bsdconfig timezone

For a list of keywords to the modules, say either:

bsdconfig -h

*or*

Peruse the diagram (which is generated by bsdconfig dot):

http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/bsdconfig/bsdconfig-HEAD-20130506-3i.svg

The green parallelograms are the bsdconfig keywords, and the blue rectangles 
represent the modules (mousing over it will show the /usr/libexec/bsdconfig 
path in a tooltip).
-- 
Devin




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Re: learn

2013-08-01 Thread James Gosnell
I learned FreeBSD by reading the Handbook from start to finish. It's great
documentation for an OS. It's grown since then as well.


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl wrote:

 The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost
 there. You know that, corebug.

 I usually recommend the owl:
 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596002619.do

 Cheers
 herb langhans


 Message: 19
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:41:07 +0300
 From: ??? ???  core...@corebug.net
 To: Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: learn
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

 This should help a lot for sure :)


 2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade teymur.rahimz...@gmail.com
  Hi.
  Please help me to learn freebsd unix.
  Many thanks.

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