Re: Request for a package or port...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David J Brooks wrote: On Saturday 12 January 2008 12:40:02 am rpj911 wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux for a few years and just switched to DesktopBSD, very nice. If it's not too much trouble, could you guys port or create a package for the Mnemosyne Project. It's a flashcard program... Thanks. Bob Cincinnati, Ohio I just checked it out. Being a python program mnemosyne installs and runs just fine without any porting really needed. Just extract the tar.gz file from sourceforge.net into something like /usr/ports/local and follow the instructions included in the README. You should be able to install all the dependencies listed there from ports. If your feeling adventurous you could make a port for it even. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools. http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. Free software != Free beer Blog: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHiHIBjRvRjGmHRgQRAmsoAJ9eJotl3+VrVzUYQh6J3J6a2YCxfgCgh94d g11SdfGZXA5r3yuKhcOMRcU= =GXkb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) Well, you can use fdisk from the fixit shell to make your slice 2 (note the primary divisions are called 'slices' in FreeBSD) in to a FreeBSD type and then create your FreeBSD partitions in it and build FreeBSD filesystems there. I think I should of been a little more specific the physical layout is completely correct (i.e. the sizes, start/end tracks, etc.) the only problem is the logical numbering of the partitions/slices in the mbr idea of the table... namely I just need to relabel them not modify them in any way. Then, still using the fixit, use dump/restore to copy the contents of the FreeBSD filesystems over. Assuming the major slices are ad0s1 and ad0s2, then something like: mkdir /oldroot mount /ad0s1a /oldroot mkdir /newroot mount /ad0s2a /newroot cd /newroot dump 0af - / | restore -rf - That will get the root partition/filesystem. Do appropriately similar for the rest of the FreeBSD filesystems. Note that while in fixit, the running root (/) is in a memory filesystem which will go away after you reboot. So, those mount points you create (oldroot, newroot, etc) are temporary. Then use a utility such as gparted (freely downloadable as ISO) to convert the #1 slice into NTFS and install Vista there. You might be able to get FreeBSD's fdisk to do the convesion to NTFS, but I have never tried that. You would have to know the code number for it. jerry - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHg/RPjRvRjGmHRgQRAmAIAJ9ez7kulB5P94ZeVUsY7rrnDo3hLwCgjNCW m54xx08yDK3m7lXN5/xsQ84= =+9FU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:08:15PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) Well, you can use fdisk from the fixit shell to make your slice 2 (note the primary divisions are called 'slices' in FreeBSD) in to a FreeBSD type and then create your FreeBSD partitions in it and build FreeBSD filesystems there. I think I should of been a little more specific the physical layout is completely correct (i.e. the sizes, start/end tracks, etc.) the only problem is the logical numbering of the partitions/slices in the mbr idea of the table... namely I just need to relabel them not modify them in any way. I don't think you can make slice 2 become slice 1. The system numbers them in order of appearance. This comes from BIOS standard usage. 2 starts before 1 in my case?!??! % fdisk *** Working on device /dev/ad8 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 62910540, size 913857525 (446219 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) start 63, size 62910477 (30718 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: UNUSED The data for partition 4 is: UNUSED 2 - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhDkOjRvRjGmHRgQRAr09AJ0TCHS+emo0rp0/UBNtHKE8CxxlBQCfTz3g AFWyXr9pArXzfBsGvfRFgUQ= =HZJJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgu7wjRvRjGmHRgQRArSwAKCVAwIOK+D++dk22OTht+flBjhEtQCcC6oS lRchYlAYgb/6zn34iw2FoHQ= =DEp0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HOW-TO] cvsup for ports -- Re: compact portsnap db
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you don't have cvsup installed, run this command: # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui It is better to use all ports or all packages so either do: Why do you say that? Do you know of unresolved issues regarding the interactions of port versus package installations? Any references? I am not currently aware of any conflicts but the fact that they have historical been more frequent then inter-port or inter-package conflicts leads to the conculsion... unlike either of the above they are harder to troubleshoot cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui make install clean or after doing the above do a pkg_delete -a (assuming that your working with a clean machine [no ports/packages instaleld except cvsup] Why wouldn't pkg_delete -a remove your just-installed cvsup-without-gui? Sorry for not being clear I meant before the reinstall (besides make install would fail if you hadn't done a pkg_delete -a) For more info on the supfile, look at this file on your FreeBSD machine: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Preferring cvsup to portsnap is kinda like preferring vim over emacs... It's a holy war and the vi/cvsup side uses less disk space. Actually it is not like that at all.. cvsup/csup is the officially preferred method and any other method is a short cut of some kind... Please provide a reference URL to 'official' support of this claim? This is a case of actions by the developer community speaks louder then words: 1. Csup is in the base system thus obvious preferred to either cvsup or portsnap 2. C(v)sup is more universal 3. The only way to maintain an official local repo is via cvsup many of them have very subtle issues that the typical end-user should not notice but should be aware of... Issues such as? And what other alternatives to c*sup and portsnap exist for ports tree management? I can think of several off the top my head: 1. Ftp ports.tar.gz and unpack 2. Maintain a local repo like I do 3. Use portupgrade in conjunction with the above I was specifically refeering to the 3rd option when I said there where subtle issues. Speicfically the way make install (recursive) and portupgrade -a calculate the build order can lead to some issues (like compiling the default OPTIONS before asking the user to select OPTIONS) ooroo, Ian - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgTz+jRvRjGmHRgQRAgj8AKCbgfQfoquUWiceLSGxOBQmNDLGxQCeJLGY p2zteaiWHCoJ95O64urXoZs= =P5jK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HOW-TO] cvsup for ports -- Re: compact portsnap db
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Smith wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: If you don't have cvsup installed, run this command: # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui It is better to use all ports or all packages so either do: Why do you say that? Do you know of unresolved issues regarding the interactions of port versus package installations? Any references? I am not currently aware of any conflicts but the fact that they have historical been more frequent then inter-port or inter-package conflicts leads to the conculsion... unlike either of the above they are harder to troubleshoot The only problems I've ever seen with installing packages is that at times the package-building farm gets a bit behind, when you might need to build a desired newly updated port from source, and that in some cases a package built with default options may not be what you want. php5 is one example of the latter, as the default options do not include mod_php5 which (I gather?) is why most people install php at all. The main issue is assuming that certain things are installed because that is the way the developers recommend it then you install a package and find out that the maintainer had different ideas. A very good current example is boost vs. boost-python in regards to the requirements for deluge and miro respectivally. An other example is the entire Java tree. And yes there are some ports that don't have packages for licencing etc reasons, though I can't recall ever having to install one of those. I am the author (but not the maintainer) of such a port (devel/thistest) and there is often very legit reasons for not allowing packages... for example my license requires explicit agreement before you can download the source and/or binaries (because it has specific provisions regarding execution vs. source usage [see my blog for more details... http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php]). Not everyone has fast hardware and good bandwidth, so installing from packages for really big ports - such as X, KDE or Gnome, j{dk,re}, OO and such - is almost mandatory on smaller systems. Release CDs install at least the former three as packages of course, for obvious reasons, and at least around release times, up to date packages can be expected. My experience has been every time I have attempted to make the two play together well it blows up. It has been so long since I have used a package vs. a port I can't site a specific example. I just think saying it's better to use all ports or all packages is poor and maybe misleading advice, particularly expressed without 'IMHO', as it implies problems that RE should know about - especially right now! This is more of a long term issue that is being worked on by several groups including the ports 2.0 team that I am member of [see long set threads in -ports@ regarding ports system re-engineering]... much of the stuff I hint at in this thread is better spelled out there. cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui make install clean or after doing the above do a pkg_delete -a (assuming that your working with a clean machine [no ports/packages instaleld except cvsup] Why wouldn't pkg_delete -a remove your just-installed cvsup-without-gui? Sorry for not being clear I meant before the reinstall (besides make install would fail if you hadn't done a pkg_delete -a) Hmm ok - thought you might be suggesting that port installs don't update the package database in /var/db/pkg just the same as pkg_add does. For more info on the supfile, look at this file on your FreeBSD machine: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Preferring cvsup to portsnap is kinda like preferring vim over emacs... It's a holy war and the vi/cvsup side uses less disk space. Actually it is not like that at all.. cvsup/csup is the officially preferred method and any other method is a short cut of some kind... Please provide a reference URL to 'official' support of this claim? This is a case of actions by the developer community speaks louder then words: 1. Csup is in the base system thus obvious preferred to either cvsup or portsnap % which portsnap /usr/sbin/portsnap 2. C(v)sup is more universal 3. The only way to maintain an official local repo is via cvsup You're talking about updating sources, ports and CVS too. We were just talking about maintaining the ports tree. I sense nothing 'official'. To me the official method should be the most general... and except for my mistake that portsnap is not in the base system it is no where near as general as c[v]sup namely portsnap is a kludge designed for people who are to lazy to learn cvsup many of them have very subtle issues that the typical end-user should not notice but should be aware of... Issues such as? And what other alternatives to c*sup and portsnap exist for ports tree management? I can think of several off the top my
Re: Install order?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boris Samorodov wrote: On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:51:51 -0600 David Reedy Jr wrote: I'm very new to FreeBSD, just installed it for the first time maybe a week ago. Great, welcome. But please, don't start a new thread hitting a reply to and existing thread. First of, the thread history is not clean. And you won't get an answer from a person not interested in the thread you'd interfered... I would not jump to conclusion so fast: 1. That quote is from the OP 2. The OP did not jump into an old thread according to the headers on the original message - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHf1axjRvRjGmHRgQRAtW7AJ4upz4NeS3VBR8npfVRUzvqxxXQlgCdGMAA 5x3X8YP4aeNAO3aFVCOB/aI= =4+Cn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: fixing a broken key
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gerard wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:49:20 -0500 Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After cleaning my keyboard by removing the keys and using a damp paper towel to clean the keys and the area between contacts (there is a barrier between the area under the keys and the contact so it is very unlikely the contacts got wet) my r key now registers as being constantly pressed any ideas on how to correct this? I have spilled coffee on many keyboards myself. Quite frankly, unless you have an expensive keyboard, why not just replace it? You can get a generic KB for less than $10. Even if you have an expensive one, it might well still be under warranty, in which case I would simply return it for a replacement. IMHO, the time and effort, not to mention the mental anguish spent on this venture is not time well spent. 1. Already replaced it 2. Even though it is inexpensive it is by far the most comfortable keyboard I have ever owned (and the replacement is designed for someone with toothpicks for fingers I think) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHf+RajRvRjGmHRgQRAhOeAJ91lrbofOfmDvYcJApjgu4o4pKj1ACfQDIQ T+m1lzIXVcCaVwQjMHhkysA= =rdfk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rudy wrote: With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by trial and error and want to post again to the list so that others searching can get the FLASH player working in their brower: THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK: sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20 I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was install www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and flash works fine (as far I can tell)... does this add any functionality I am not aware of? (namely some sites seem to partially load like the graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to test this is go to the site in my signature then click on the 3rd icon at the bottom and then click on graphs]) Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and reboot: compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20 NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that is the linux kernel number (which I know nothing about) for the Fedora 7 release. Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead of the default Fedora Core 4 on my desktop. Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version number to report (by default) and not 2.6.11 (their kernel version shipped with Fedora 4)? Seems like the ports should and linux module should be updated... Rudy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHf/9jjRvRjGmHRgQRAtysAJwMxduZXiwaWysp3rZ6Lwp4pzBu0wCggGIj zudbR20t8JOEJMiWL0G6agk= =VM8Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Mars wrote: Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Rudy wrote: With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by trial and error and want to post again to the list so that others searching can get the FLASH player working in their brower: THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK: sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20 I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was install www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and flash works fine (as far I can tell)... does this add any functionality I am not aware of? (namely some sites seem to partially load like the graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to test this is go to the site in my signature then click on the 3rd icon at the bottom and then click on graphs]) Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and reboot: compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20 NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that is the linux kernel number (which I know nothing about) for the Fedora 7 release. Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead of the default Fedora Core 4 on my desktop. Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version number to report (by default) and not 2.6.11 (their kernel version shipped with Fedora 4)? Seems like the ports should and linux module should be updated... Rudy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You! I tried getting flash to work in FreeBSD so many times and failed. It wasn't a big deal but it was annoying to have to boot into another system if there is content I needed to see that happens to be flash. I'm running FreeBSD 7 Beta4. I just did what you said: cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin7 make config-recursive install clean nspluginwrapper -v -a -i After that a flash content was playing in firefox. Unfortunately my AudigyLS soundcard only works with oss, which is having some problems now, so I was not able to verify that sound works well. I don't use OSS so have no idea on the issue there. By the way, I had some problems installing flash7 from ports a few days ago. It didn't like the size of the file and would fail even if you downloaded from Adobe and copied to ports/disfiles. I later did a 'portsnap fetch update' that must have gotten updated makefiles and fixed that problems. Anybody else with that issue should try updating the ports collection. The problem a few days ago was because the distfiles had been updated one way to fix this (which is what I did) is do a make makesum which will recalculate the checksums found in the distinfo file. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgEhQjRvRjGmHRgQRAgRmAJ419cS9s5zgldXbErZBu5Kwp64VrACfV5Ei wz9rqqj5RsTblwVjz1bkCAE= =zvih -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rudy wrote: By the way, I had some problems installing flash7 from ports a few days ago. It didn't like the size of the file and would fail even if you downloaded from Adobe and copied to ports/disfiles. I later did a 'portsnap fetch update' that must have gotten updated makefiles and fixed that problems. Anybody else with that issue should try updating the ports collection. Super you got it running. PS, I had to do that as well... rm /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/fp7_archive.zip From full original instructions: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-January/165920.html Updating your ports (with portsnap or the cvsup) when trying to fix problems is always a good idea. Sometimes when everything seems busted the portupgrade tool can be helpful in rebuilding all your ports. Set it running before you go to bed, and ta-da, in the morning everything is working -- or completely broken :) An other way to fix it in some ways is to run a make makesum to update the distfile checksums - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgEkBjRvRjGmHRgQRAnAHAJ9KR+ety4Fua48dxBYYDx/qX3bSrACfUZ9t 2+ZcjSruc6orky2W1E9dB34= =Sj1r -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HOW-TO] cvsup for ports -- Re: compact portsnap db
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rudy wrote: Michael Lednev wrote: Hello. Is there any way to compact /var/db/portsnap other than deleting it and doing postsnap fetch? I don't like portsnap -- granted I've never typed the portsnap command in my 10 years of FreeBSD use. I use cvsup! More info: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html QUick HOW-TO Make a file called /usr/src/ports-supfile Your better off using /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile because it is pre-debuggeg... also even though I don't use it because the nearest cvsup mirror is 5 miles away is install fastest_cvsup to find the fastest host. - #/usr/src/ports-supfile *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all - Then, run this command: cvsup /usr/src/ports-supfile Note if your not going to use the local cvs repository method I use then you should use csup not cvsup because it comes with the base system (the semantics are identical to those of cvsup) [the only difference is csup can't handle raw cvs commands thus the cvs-supfile doesn't work with it] Make an alias for this that way when you update your sources you won't lose the host settings if /usr/share/examples/cvsup gets overwritten... for example my alias is: (I keep a complete local copy of the cvs repo so I use cvs-supfile instead of ports or standard [note 1]): alias cvsup cvsup -h cvsup9.us.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvs-supfile If you don't have cvsup installed, run this command: # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui It is better to use all ports or all packages so either do: cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui make install clean or after doing the above do a pkg_delete -a (assuming that your working with a clean machine [no ports/packages instaleld except cvsup] For more info on the supfile, look at this file on your FreeBSD machine: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Preferring cvsup to portsnap is kinda like preferring vim over emacs... It's a holy war and the vi/cvsup side uses less disk space. Actually it is not like that at all.. cvsup/csup is the officially preferred method and any other method is a short cut of some kind... many of them have very subtle issues that the typical end-user should not notice but should be aware of... - Rudy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes: 1. I keep a local cvs repository because unlike cvsup/csup straight cvs will not over write locally modified files (it will do it's best to merge in newer changes while persevering your local ones) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgEuRjRvRjGmHRgQRAj/4AJ9rAd/rSZOPBDgtMfDjMzBEf8OCgQCgslO6 EPONuz7Tj7TMPQuvDhCHCdI= =lxH2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install order?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Reedy Jr wrote: Hello all, I'm very new to FreeBSD, just installed it for the first time maybe a week ago. I've redone it several times since, so feel comfortable in the VERY basics. I've got things like ntp, ftp, and ssh configured, no problem. Not worried about mail. I'm setting this machine up as a local internet test server. I need to get Apache, MySQL and PHP installed, and I'm worried if there's a preferred /required order to get it to work right / at all. FWIW - I've checked the handbook, apache.org, php.net, and mysql.com. I keep feel like I'm going round in circles. There is officially no preferred order... each port will pull in what it needs. For example just selecting the apache module when installing php will automatically drag in a configured and working version of apache (at least if you want stuff on port 8080 [std port is 80 so you will need to edit the config file slightly {you may also want to move docroot to a more convient place also}])... Now there are some known (very rare) exceptions to the above for example if you install net-p2p/deluge and multimedia/miro you should install deluge first (while hand configuring boost to compile with boost-python [actually just some make flags] instead of plain boost) Also, I've noticed that some of the port versions on this site are a little newer that in my 6.2 release. Will I have problems installing these instead? You shouldn't have an issue since almost all ports have existed (and largely unmodified) since 6.2... that being said you should still consider up grading to 7 if at all possible since it adds a lot of stuff that makes general operation much smoother. Thanks in advance. Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHfxJljRvRjGmHRgQRAkB3AJ9J8MoZwhKgS3H33IorOqpbf8Sv8ACeNlg4 X1tr4LiGxX4iInBuOUzCYdU= =pDsV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: batch rename
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Laine wrote: Hi to all. My goal is to rename several files in such a way as to decapitalize starting letters in their names. The solution seems to be simple but I'm stuck. What should I use? awk/sed or write some shell-script? This assumes tcsh: foreach i (`ls [A-Z][a-z]*`) mv $i `echo $i|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z'` end TIA - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHfx1UjRvRjGmHRgQRAi7iAJ4kFwUQRj18O1DSP6D8KrO/0sOzrwCfZkgv zutJcCUMAlFfjpqhs5aF/Vw= =wuvQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: batch rename
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shantanoo Mahajan wrote: On 05-Jan-08, at 11:31 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Laine wrote: Hi to all. My goal is to rename several files in such a way as to decapitalize starting letters in their names. The solution seems to be simple but I'm stuck. What should I use? awk/sed or write some shell-script? This assumes tcsh: foreach i (`ls [A-Z][a-z]*`) mv $i `echo $i|tr 'A-Z' 'a-z'` end tr will decapitalize all the letters in the string. You can replace it with the following sed then sed s/^[A-Z]/[a-z]/ - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHfyeujRvRjGmHRgQRAq93AKCX5RmMVI436s4fHnFL5Lbf7ZFu9QCfXnQi BmYgPvB6m+1WlpeF9YXQd80= =SsIF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low Level Language Suggestions: OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Victor Subervi wrote: Thanks for the comments. It's a serious project. It appears that no one has yet done anything substantial in open source for translation, which is a $12 billion/yr industry. Go figure. Sounds like C++ is the way to go. Now, getting back on topic :) I know that one has to install all sorts of s/w and rebuild the kernel for working with Java. Is that true of C++ as well? Or is it like C, native to FBSD? If your talking natural langs then Henry Pjiffers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has done a fair amount of work... even though he might attempt to sell you on enhanced open-source ;-) [I would also do this if I had done work in the translation area... he is the other 1/3 of the licensing model I have mentioned a few times on the lists] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeSXpzIOMjAek4JIRAstpAJwLfmUpzghGV22K7iVt3iKsc9rrAgCcCdBZ DoWyBolAD6sd5x3E1/W12/g= =luLC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low Level Language Suggestions: OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Victor Subervi wrote: Thanks. I'll drop him a line. Forgot to mention that as far I know it is straight Java also. As a side note to those who are knocking Java a few things need to be dismistified: I don't know if I am the exception but I know a fair number of people who have switched from c/c++ to Java (like me)... most of my carrer (and still do) is writting high performence code (largely via custom alogrithems instead of hand optimization) and have had zero issue with Java in this issue (except for the slow startup time for the jvm). Matter one of my projects is a Java--native compiler which I eventually plan to base an OS around. Victor On Dec 31, 2007 1:24 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Victor Subervi wrote: Thanks for the comments. It's a serious project. It appears that no one has yet done anything substantial in open source for translation, which is a $12 billion/yr industry. Go figure. Sounds like C++ is the way to go. Now, getting back on topic :) I know that one has to install all sorts of s/w and rebuild the kernel for working with Java. Is that true of C++ as well? Or is it like C, native to FBSD? If your talking natural langs then Henry Pjiffers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has done a fair amount of work... even though he might attempt to sell you on enhanced open-source ;-) [I would also do this if I had done work in the translation area... he is the other 1/3 of the licensing model I have mentioned a few times on the lists] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeSd0zIOMjAek4JIRAhgBAJ9mX2SUOPMBIKSse9/09BE8owV1QQCfTD6O IU5nLP56NiASTFp90dMxrco= =jQgV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low Level Language Suggestions: OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Victor Subervi wrote: Hmm. Why did you switch to Java? Rich system API, everything inherits from Object (helps in many situations), the relization that 99% of time I was using ptrs it was only to keep a ref to some struct in RAM (the only time I have ever found a use for them is when for some hardware reason you *MUST* address a specific address in RAM) for low level work you can turn the GC off via a non-JVM compilor, etc. Basically it lets me not worry about low level details that are pure book keeping vs. some performence/functionality gain Also, that email address for Henry bounced [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeSpRzIOMjAek4JIRAl1WAJ0bUH073PKH/wjg8cGvtY5Ww7IqaQCfTPws DWVv6YiE9DEC9vL2Pc0BIDo= =VmKj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low Level Language Suggestions: OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Victor Subervi wrote: Hmm. Why did you switch to Java? Rich system API, everything inherits from Object (helps in many situations), the relization that 99% of time I was using ptrs it was only to keep a ref to some struct in RAM (the only time I have ever found a use for them is when for some hardware reason you *MUST* address a specific address in RAM) for low level work you can turn the GC off via a non-JVM compilor, etc. Basically it lets me not worry about low level details that are pure book keeping vs. some performence/functionality gain Forgot to mention reflection which makes certain things possible (not just easier)... for example the aMock product I make would be impossible without reflection and even thisTest would be significantly harder to use without it. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeSwYzIOMjAek4JIRAl6DAKCNiZ6wv2cyyWbRzUpnUYa98X7lPACcDlfQ fmt4j82cfv77ixXRVlWbck8= =QhCH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low Level Language Suggestions: OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RW wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:04:07 -0400 Victor Subervi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the comments. It's a serious project. It appears that no one has yet done anything substantial in open source for translation, which is a $12 billion/yr industry. If I were you, I'd look into what languages the industry is using. C and Java. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeS1RzIOMjAek4JIRAk7EAKCLVho0xH0JUMD9axAgov0skoTeSgCfefqB ubBjgpMuJUOwHYBeyLJY+iQ= =00mx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
recommendations: new graphics card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am running 8-current amd64 on a e6850 with 4 GB of RAM and currently have a nvidia 5200 GT. Well I have a $100 gift card for amazon and decided to use it to get a new video card. I also run vista and occasionally a live cd for linux but I spend 90+% of my time in freebsd. My main use of the machine is (java) development, light office apps, maintaining my companies web site and light gaming (the only thing I use vista for) [currently cc 3 but I want to try some newer things {I never play first person shooters}]. I have never used anything except nvidia cards but in seeing that the closed source driver is not going to be out anytime soon for amd64 I am willing to consider an ATI. Suggestions? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHdRPzzIOMjAek4JIRAgWlAJ0YCcdwY3mKWr7vpocjw2exHhiVNACfbl1G Vpk/z+nDuUe0t2Ae2Ss0c7I= =JWsM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing boot partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Gonçalves wrote: Hi all, I Have a FreeBSD booting ok. It?s FSTAB is like this: #DeviceMountPoint FStype Options /dev/ad1s1b none swap sw /dev/ad1s1a / ufs rw /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto /dev/ad1s2d /backup ufs rw When I boot the machine the boot manager shows me F1 and F2 to boot for. F1 brings me /dev/ad1s1a OK Still I want the machine to boot to /dev/ad1s2d This partition has a backup from another FreeBSD which I want to boot. To accomplish this, I need only to change FSTAB ? What changes should I do ? changing /dev/ad1s2d to /dev/ad1s2a ? I read that a means boot root partition I tried to change FSTAB to #DeviceMountPoint FStype Options /dev/ad1s1b none swap sw #/dev/ad1s1a / ufs rw /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto /dev/ad1s2a /backup ufs rw And it hanged when I pressed F1 (could not mount the root partition :P ) Could you guys give any hint ? Sorry about this questions but I am a newbie to FreeBSD I forget the exact semantics but do a search for installing freebsd in a usb stick on google the reason for referring to this site is it shows how to duplicate what sysinstall does from the command line - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHc6rZzIOMjAek4JIRAoevAJ0WZzlRNgLiZeMzgS7RV2SS96kEBgCfe9PI tsmEoCTLlXPqg/FWYSEcukc= =oamg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8.tbz package in a script
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Omer Faruk Sen wrote: Hi, Is there a way to add a package that requires the acceptance of the license (such as diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8.tbz) in a script. I have made a yes yes | pkg_add diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8.tbz but it didn't work. Maybe there is an option that can be used somewhere . For legal reasons unlikely... this is funny because I am the author (but not maintainer) an other port that has a similar restriction and was thinking about how to automate it for people who I know have already read and agreed to the license but force people who have not read it to read it (i.e. if your upgrading it doesn't bug you for license acceptance) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHcncNzIOMjAek4JIRArfSAJ492sV/9My15UCVxnCq2r2v2vCpGgCdFkLI VRafODrEcU0B/t1m2z6YVyA= =bntn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't start more than one gnome-session as the same user?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clint Olsen wrote: On Dec 19, Clint Olsen wrote: I searched and found a lot of old hits of this error. The solutions are not very compelling. Unsetting SESSION_MANAGER before launching vncserver only cascades errors down into the various client programs like the desktop etc. Answering my own question, the problem is that you really need to start with a fresh shell that isn't inherited from the existing windowing environment. So, logging in remotely and starting up vncserver works. While I wouldn't call this very elegant, at least it works. Side question: Can this solution be used to access multiple accounts on the same machine? -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHajr9zIOMjAek4JIRAiWYAJ90tgiNOc3iPNj997pd6RiAJZ6y0QCeJ8L4 iNP3nXbVZT/3uDJEfcRPs4c= =+C8X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't start more than one gnome-session as the same user?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clint Olsen wrote: On Dec 20, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Side question: Can this solution be used to access multiple accounts on the same machine? I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Do you mean multiple gnome sessions all as different user ids? That's not a problem. It was just that I was trying to run gnome both under vncserver and natively on the console. I mean multiple sessions all under the same user *BUT* all tied to the same xterm. Namely I often login into my main account then su to more specialized accounts and do a xhost +/setenv DISPLAY :0 in the respective .cshrc's. Thus I can start X apps from the command line as the su'ed user but I want to make it so I can also have a panel (xfce4 not gnome but I suspect it is the same issue since both use GTK) for them. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHatFczIOMjAek4JIRAiydAJ9iRKSiH4cYBLS9/DR2s2t6kEhNBwCfcXAU PEQNpdnjECRFQErPR/NW1/s= =1HEB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how long does send-pr take to post
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the past I have not been able to do send-pr but now that I fixed my local mail issues all other email apps work... how long should I wait for the pr to show up before I decide some kind of error happened. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFHaup5zIOMjAek4JIRArgGAJ9GvsmWF6M6iozVPReYPWZiVL3/kQCYyWyJ rxYXDxUXo9UkdqV30tpndw== =ytqz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: What priority this app running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Norberto Meijome wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:07:44 -0500 C High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With nice, 20 is the lowest priority, 0 is the base, and -20 is the highest. that's right - it is because with nice you tell it 'how nice to be'. when you ask a process to have a level 20 of niceness, it will be VERY nice and the kernel will let other processes in front of it. If you say, this process will have a negative value of niceness, it isn't very nice at all ;) I think the kernel it self (this is based on 43BSD) has a niceness of -25. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHazRtzIOMjAek4JIRAtAlAJ4xgwq25KBQ9GAJF4XDr2JbNlXLGgCfa+mP xr40CG6NrQFBl7GyyWvfbac= =WRMK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Java Plugin not working on Firefox
) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.java:780) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:2074) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java:709) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:363) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Caused by: java.net.ConnectException: Invalid argument at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(PlainSocketImpl.java:333) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(PlainSocketImpl.java:195) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(PlainSocketImpl.java:182) at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:519) at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(NetworkClient.java:155) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:394) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:529) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.init(HttpClient.java:233) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:306) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:323) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(HttpURLConnection.java:788) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(HttpURLConnection.java:729) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(HttpURLConnection.java:654) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:977) at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(HttpURLConnection.java:373) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(AppletClassLoader.java:284) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(AppletClassLoader.java:44) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(AppletClassLoader.java:173) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:170) ... 9 more basic: Stopping applet ... basic: New window ID: 0 basic: Removed progress listener: [EMAIL PROTECTED] basic: Finding information ... basic: Releasing classloader: [EMAIL PROTECTED], refcount=0 basic: Caching classloader: [EMAIL PROTECTED] basic: Current classloader cache size: 1 basic: Done ... basic: Joining applet thread ... basic: Destroying applet ... basic: Disposing applet ... basic: Quiting applet ... basic: Joined applet thread ... - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHaN0mzIOMjAek4JIRAjgNAJ45DbsUO981Wo4IAh3VHNIDMLJMYgCdFOfq Td5q0d/ROkfokfOR+ceAnA8= =71Ug -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Plugin not working on Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Norberto Meijome wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:58:14 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have jdk1.6 (bootstrapped from diablo 1.5) installed and it works fine for command line/swing apps but dies on applets in firefox 2.0.0.11 (both from ports). I installed the plugin by doing: Hi Aryeh, (no need to cross post...) have you tried this ? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2007-November/006927.html But netbeans has stopped working now: java.net.BindException: Can't assign requested address at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketBind(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.bind(PlainSocketImpl.java:359) at java.net.ServerSocket.bind(ServerSocket.java:319) at java.net.ServerSocket.init(ServerSocket.java:185) at org.netbeans.CLIHandler$Server.init(CLIHandler.java:964) at org.netbeans.CLIHandler.initialize(CLIHandler.java:523) at org.netbeans.CLIHandler.initialize(CLIHandler.java:346) at org.netbeans.MainImpl.execute(MainImpl.java:180) at org.netbeans.MainImpl.main(MainImpl.java:75) at org.netbeans.Main.main(Main.java:75) XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Unknown error: 0) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHaSs4zIOMjAek4JIRApBkAJ9x4JIp493/sAfzDtUBsF1v7Ge5cACeMhjg Er05NB30QylJIaQ2n/MsCkM= =7ccu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bare Metal Recovery FreeBSD How To
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Gonçalves wrote: Hi all, I am trying to do a Bare Metal Recovery from a FreeBSD 6.0 system to a different Hardware. I have a backup from all partitions of the affected system so I am trying to install a minimum FreeBSD 6.0 in a different hardware which I already have up and running. I created a Swap Partition, a “/” partition where the minimum system is running, and a third partition “/backup” in which I will restore the backup through the network. Next step will be to change the boot manager and make it boot through “/backup”. Do you guys think this is doable? I Think I probably must recompile the kernel after the bare metal recovery because the hardware is different, still do you think it might work? If you need to recompile the kernel then you will also have do a build world and rebuild most of the ports. Your better just backing up the data from the old machine and building the new enviroment from scratch then copy it across. An other way is all the data to a spare disk and then just put it in the new machine once it is all setup. BTW unless there is some extremely good reason why your sticking with 6.0 you should consider at 6.3 What is your opinion on this? What should be the best approach ? Thanks for reading and Best regards Nuno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHaTjLzIOMjAek4JIRApEjAKClfIOmPJ73EBgNAtszCrGaWI93dwCfdeMl bkJffUSYC5jMhA7RB6Y3tXQ= =BMfE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rough method of cleaning the ports tree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, after noticing how large my ports tree grows while compiling, I thought of simply deleting it and do a CVSup to get a new one after the compilation is finished. This should be much faster and also should do some kind o defragmentation. I simply cannot believe that the huge ports tree will still be very well organised after some months. What does the list think of this method? Even though it will take quite a bit longer you should just do a make distclean in /usr/ports that way anything you hand modified will be retained (also you might want to consider keeping a local cvs repository if this is an issue) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHaJB5zIOMjAek4JIRAqJxAKCdc0XT4T2YPWOWj2CxzaMY26vdLgCfUvs9 D42DFTYQ2LV+rIhUKYNOBRc= =3/I8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Absolute FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with freebsd-questions would outweigh it. By definition they would since the amount of collective knowledge is always greater then the knowledge of a indivual -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHYjqEzIOMjAek4JIRApP3AKCQr5Uit40NBXo2naZz8gYhAJq/EwCgmtHq QtUotzkeEiOSiSIH2tt03/4= =9WKE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart_host on sendmail min config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-12-11 13:53, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: You still haven't shown us: * How your local rc system starts Sendmail Until I can get it right from the command line I am not going to include it in my /etc/rc thus currently there is none * The active Sendmail processes you have now Except for the one I start (with the below command line) before sending there is none running. Then you need to replicate what `/etc/rc.d/sendmail' does. You have the code to that script, you also have `/etc/defaults/rc.conf' as a guide of the defaults supported by FreeBSD. Happy hacking :) I'm not interested in rewriting `/etc/rc.d/sendmail' from scratch, so other than a few pointers like the following, I'm out of the thread: here is the complete transcript of my last attempt to actually send something: [...] monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m Here you started a sendmail process which listens for connections to *all* interfaces. That's probably ok if you plan to accept incoming SMTP connections on _any_ interface, i.e. because you are running a Sendmail server accessible from outside. On my laptop this would be replaced by: /usr/sbin/sendmail -L smtpd -bd -q30m \ -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost Note the use of the -O flag to make sure Sendmail is only listening on the localhost:25 port for mail submission requests. Then you have to start a *second* Sendmail instance, to flush the local `clientmqueue' and forward the messages you see as `Deferred' when you run the `mailq -Ac' command: monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- - Sender/Recipient--- lBAEQDUM0772289 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now you have to run a second Sendmail instance, i.e. with: /usr/sbin/sendmail -L mailq -Ac -q10m NOTE: The `smtpd' and `mailq' arguments to the -L options are not the standard names FreeBSD assigns to these processes. They are just the ones I use on my laptop. Since you are using a custom, local sendmail startup script, that's about the best I can write to get you kickstarted. For more help with the way Sendmail operates, you can always refer to the ``Sendmail(TM) Installation and Operation Guide''. A copy of the guide is conveniently installed by the FreeBSD installation process at: /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/* Good luck with the startup scripts. I don't really understand why you insist on rewriting something which works(TM), is featureful and easy to extend, like the rc.d scripts, but that's besides the point :-) - Giorgos Above still does nothing: monster-freebsd# /usr/sbin/sendmail -L smtpd -bd -q30m - -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost monster-freebsd# /usr/sbin/sendmail -L mailq -Ac -q10m monster-freebsd# mailq -v WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? /var/spool/mqueue (2 requests) - -Q-ID- --Size-- -Priority- ---Q-Time--- - Sender/Recipient lBCKovjf051782 10 30377 Dec 12 15:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) lBCKovjh0517829 30380 Dec 12 15:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) Total requests: 2 monster-freebsd# tail -f /var/log/maillog Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHYE27zIOMjAek4JIRAvzyAKCkTFuxsbH37S+JZCeG0dSwTFO98ACfWjcd VVP9Rwa6pJ1oA6rLpBfUIdU= =uFO1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart_host on sendmail min config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-12-10 22:00, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 completely unchanged before and after I attempted to sendmail to my self (after a reboot but not a restart of sendmail [I have a handcrafted /etc/rc so I know it doesn't run sendmail on boot]) I don't see message sending attempts above. Since you have modified `/etc/rc' can you show me the processes launched for Sendmail, the way they started, and then how you are trying to send an email message? Ideally, something like `mail -v' should show at least an attempt to post the message to the local queue: % $ mail -v keramida % Subject: foo % testing % . % EOT % keramida... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... % 220 kobe.laptop ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:12 +0200 (EET) % EHLO kobe.laptop % 250-kobe.laptop Hello kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you % 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES % 250-PIPELINING % 250-8BITMIME % 250-SIZE % 250-DSN % 250-ETRN % 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 % 250-DELIVERBY % 250 HELP % MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] % 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok % RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] % DATA % 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok % 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself % . % 250 2.0.0 lBBGQCj8018567 Message accepted for delivery % keramida... Sent (lBBGQCj8018567 Message accepted for delivery) % Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] % QUIT % 221 2.0.0 kobe.laptop closing connection % $ monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m -v 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? monster-freebsd# mail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test fopo dsadad . EOT WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) EHLO monster-freebsd 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=56 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . 250 2.0.0 lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] QUIT 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXtCizIOMjAek4JIRAoc6AKCpJfHrBjp6ggnJ8ofcHr8aeGHLWQCcDAIV HhNmOsaup3n4HTwDHsezl/Q= =RKbz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart_host on sendmail min config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-12-11 13:02, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ideally, something like `mail -v' should show at least an attempt to post the message to the local queue: [...] monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m -v 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? monster-freebsd# mail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test fopo dsadad . EOT WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) EHLO monster-freebsd 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you [...] 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . 250 2.0.0 lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] QUIT 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: mailq -Ac Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, and the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be working fine, but only queueing messages in `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A queue runner should also be started to periodically scan and handle the clientmqueue messages. monster-freebsd# !sen sendmail -bd -q1m -v # very long pause 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac # very long pause /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- - Sender/Recipient--- lBAEQDUM0772289 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAEtoDS0761480 Mon Dec 10 09:55 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBALxPJ30002809 Mon Dec 10 16:59 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAEZsSH0589548 Mon Dec 10 09:35 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBBHuZ2I0003257 Tue Dec 11 12:56 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAF5WYM0901525 Mon Dec 10 10:05 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAEQhZL082703 10 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAF6r3W0057819 Mon Dec 10 10:06 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Total requests: 8 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXtYuzIOMjAek4JIRAhkkAJ9ww89bT/y8y6IdEids2VRBnKg6tQCgmuqe T65HD60dLsGjs1GxucciyUs= =/Th9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart_host on sendmail min config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-12-11 13:25, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: mailq -Ac Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, and the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be working fine, but only queueing messages in `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A queue runner should also be started to periodically scan and handle the clientmqueue messages. I'm sorry, but this is the *third* time I am asking the same thing, and it's getting a bit boring. Do you _really_ want help, or just to have a bit of email fun for a while? You still haven't shown us: * How your local rc system starts Sendmail Until I can get it right from the command line I am not going to include it in my /etc/rc thus currently there is none * The active Sendmail processes you have now Except for the one I start (with the below command line) before sending there is none running... here is the complete transcript of my last attempt to actually send something: su Password: su: Sorry clear su Password: monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m monster-freebsd# mail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test foo asdasdads . EOT WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:48:37 -0500 (EST) EHLO monster-freebsd 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=58 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . 250 2.0.0 lBBImbEm000465 Message accepted for delivery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (lBBImbEm000465 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] QUIT 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection monster-freebsd# mailq -av mailq: illegal option -- a monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- - Sender/Recipient--- lBAEQDUM0772289 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAEtoDS0761480 Mon Dec 10 09:55 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBALxPJ30002809 Mon Dec 10 16:59 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAEZsSH0589548 Mon Dec 10 09:35 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBBHuZ2I0003257 Tue Dec 11 12:56 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAF5WYM0901525 Mon Dec 10 10:05 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAEQhZL082703 10 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] lBAF6r3W0057819 Mon Dec 10 10:06 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Total requests: 8 monster-freebsd# !sen sendmail -bd -q1m -v # very long pause 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? Your DNS is broken, and Sendmail cannot resolve `monster-freebsd'. That's not a Sendmail issue, so I'm ignoring that for now. monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac # very long pause /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- - Sender/Recipient--- lBAEQDUM0772289 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] No submission service running. You have to start at least some process which listens on 127.0.0.1:25 for incoming email requests and a queue runner for clientmqueue. I haven't seen any ps xauwww output for the Sendmail processes you are currently running, so no idea why you don't have a listener on 127.0.0.1:25. See above -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXtyuzIOMjAek4JIRAjIdAJ9oJuphO++u0yNYmoKk/XqNAMNCzACeKQ6X +NbyusNUDP8K3WBuOV6h+mw= =fHGK -END PGP SIGNATURE
Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is automatic) Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do something usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and stuff would point to windows programs/drives anyway. Every x desktop manager calls it ~/Desktop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXv7SzIOMjAek4JIRAuevAKChfCrPaxxihu6CLhB7McYavS/7MQCfV2W8 oncy1spTaxdiCMHk3+eZWWE= =ZClh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:19:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is automatic) Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do something usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and stuff would point to windows programs/drives anyway. Every x desktop manager calls it ~/Desktop What doe you mean by desktop manager? If you mean window manager, it is definitely not true. For instance, fvwm2 uses ~/.fvwm/config. Where did I say wm? If you mean desktop environments, it is also not true. According to their respective documentations, KDE uses ~/.kde be default, and Gnome uses ~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2 and ~/.local/share. I guess you don't use X... even though the above is correct both gnome and kde create ~/Desktop and the desktop manager display (usually a standalone executable seperate then the wm components) by default shows it's contents on the desktop... btw I use xfce and same thing there Roland -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXwLyzIOMjAek4JIRAuzWAKCEniiU3kDiNWjtiZJ4zUcnN7J4bQCfT5F0 6Tcj1Cg9NvdqnJYneJAIkTs= =MQ7d -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVSup question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Gao wrote: Hi, I wonder if just having port-all is enough in cvsupfile as follow. If I just want to keep ports tree up to date, do I really need to have 'src-all? *default host=cvsup9.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 *default delete use-rel-suffix compress # src-all ports-all tag=. Yes and oyu don't need tag=. also since that is the default value -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXxBrzIOMjAek4JIRAhLPAJ4wmwl7Vzqv7F29Q9QOY+F3+wPiPACfbyDf fJ7e1hG8+cHRNpdy8Esg5Wc= =D014 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
results of ports re-engineering survey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 *PLEASE ONLY REPLY TO ME OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few disclaimers: Neither I or anyone else is asking for FreeBSD to incorparate any modifications to the current base system and/or ports collection. If and when any code is developed from this process it will be committed using normal commit and review processes. The following summary of results is based on my eyeballing of answers and should not be interpreted as being any sort of mathematically and/or scientifically valid in any manner. Number of responses: roughly 30 Summary of results: 1. Most respondents stated that both the underlaying OS and the ports collection are equally important. When a preference was shown it was for the underlaying OS in most cases. 2. On average people tend to interact with the port system once or twice a week 3. The single best aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when installing new ports 4. The single worst aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when updating or deleting existing ports 5. Most respondents would not change there answers tothe survey if they where new to FreeBSD 6. Almost all respondents would use a new system if it fixed their personal worst aspect of the current system 7. About 50% of respondents would use a new system if it broke the best aspect of the ports system but fixed the worst aspect 8. Length of FreeBSD usage: rough avr. of 8 years with roughly 3 year std. dev. 9. Prefered install method: ports 10. Usage roughly evenly spread among desktop, development and servers 11. Subsystem ratings (rough avr's): UI: 6 Constancy: 9 Dependancy tracking: 7 Record keeping: 9 Granularity: 9 12. Most users are either sysadmins and/or developers Orginial Survey: As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions c. Accuracy in dependant port installations d. Internal record keeping e. Granularity's of the port management system 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHX3MyzIOMjAek4JIRAqqjAJ9YlNJW9Uqa21yK+sm1IST+KmO7QACfeum+ 9rhuEkdKX6BKkFZr6WGmbDU= =jhg0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
results of ports re-engineering survey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 *PLEASE ONLY REPLY TO ME OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few disclaimers: Neither I or anyone else is asking for FreeBSD to incorparate any modifications to the current base system and/or ports collection. If and when any code is developed from this process it will be committed using normal commit and review processes. The following summary of results is based on my eyeballing of answers and should not be interpreted as being any sort of mathematically and/or scientifically valid in any manner. Number of responses: roughly 30 Summary of results: 1. Most respondents stated that both the underlaying OS and the ports collection are equally important. When a preference was shown it was for the underlaying OS in most cases. 2. On average people tend to interact with the port system once or twice a week 3. The single best aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when installing new ports 4. The single worst aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when updating or deleting existing ports 5. Most respondents would not change there answers tothe survey if they where new to FreeBSD 6. Almost all respondents would use a new system if it fixed their personal worst aspect of the current system 7. About 50% of respondents would use a new system if it broke the best aspect of the ports system but fixed the worst aspect 8. Length of FreeBSD usage: rough avr. of 8 years with roughly 3 year std. dev. 9. Prefered install method: ports 10. Usage roughly evenly spread among desktop, development and servers 11. Subsystem ratings (rough avr's): UI: 6 Constancy: 9 Dependancy tracking: 7 Record keeping: 9 Granularity: 9 12. Most users are either sysadmins and/or developers Orginial Survey: As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions c. Accuracy in dependant port installations d. Internal record keeping e. Granularity's of the port management system 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHX3MyzIOMjAek4JIRAqqjAJ9YlNJW9Uqa21yK+sm1IST+KmO7QACfeum+ 9rhuEkdKX6BKkFZr6WGmbDU= =jhg0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 sysutils/fusefs-kmod installs to /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko and a fuse_load=YES will not work because of this. But, mv/cp/ln'ing it to /boot/kernel gets nuked if you rebuild/install the kernel. How to get around this? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXUAtzIOMjAek4JIRApF1AJ4wbXjTQVt4wngiRObv7A2iTJFPQwCgnFiT V63lqeMKC4vWDHdykrcxXGo= =JB+k -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The fusefs rc script will run kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko. You don't need to add anything to loader.conf . Secondly, you should add kernel modules to the /boot/modules dir not /boot/kernel. Thanks but I use a handwritten /etc/rc that does not call any thing in /etc/rc.d so the question stands -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXUzbzIOMjAek4JIRAm6VAJ4ysRZCw+3+cN6q6cPKa4ARdEleAwCglfGF 85cENq4/EyFrORvY2VVwNnk= =yo/4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart_host on sendmail min config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all mail via mx1.optonline.net): OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `mx2.optonline.net')dnl Look at /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and edit the SMART_HOST line as above. (Note that you can copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc and use the latter filename in order to avoid modifying the generic template file.) Just tried that the ISP just eats a test message (to the addr I am sending this from) but a direct telnet to port 25 on the smart host works fine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXVZwzIOMjAek4JIRAsRYAJ9z7QBEs0FZdtdAA8UbJKxrJczx4wCfWJmh R0HBLRqQhgP4bKk/uLCOAO4= =Ga9G -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could make a softlink... Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXWEnzIOMjAek4JIRAudyAKCMHwjBLmVkoBQ+1phqSjgxZs7oDACffqck Sqz6d33doxp89KzUcH6TsSY= =LcV4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tino Engel wrote: Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could make a softlink... Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko And it did not work? If it worked I had not of asked the question (installkernel nukes it) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXWLMzIOMjAek4JIRAqblAJ4jnHJJtl78j6ocNbDpgEEUo6BvGACdGgso COMPBBIMaDET8ce2rSyPvEU= =qiMh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
triple boot loader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have vista+freebsd (both boot well off btx) and fedora (which doesn't boot at all of the current btx install I have)... I want to keep btx instead of having to reconfigure for grub or some piece of linux (*(*(*... help? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXbRmzIOMjAek4JIRAqP/AKCbpuTHKMkwZPlzc2/coVpGWZqb7ACfURUb hGZPB1biL2604sC2Us0T3ik= =7/L+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart_host on sendmail min config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-12-10 15:08, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all mail via mx1.optonline.net): OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `mx2.optonline.net')dnl Look at /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and edit the SMART_HOST line as above. (Note that you can copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc and use the latter filename in order to avoid modifying the generic template file.) Just tried that the ISP just eats a test message (to the addr I am sending this from) but a direct telnet to port 25 on the smart host works fine If a direct telnet to port 25 works, then SMART_HOST should work too. Can you grab log messages from `/var/log/maillog', and post them? Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 completely unchanged before and after I attempted to sendmail to my self (after a reboot but not a restart of sendmail [I have a handcrafted /etc/rc so I know it doesn't run sendmail on boot]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXbcTzIOMjAek4JIRAun7AJ45Ob3ud9v+9iSzpX4LbJfT664VHwCglfKr /6kkyEAuM2iPbU/9EIbb6LU= =XkM6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
looking for ideas: triple booting and personal data
I am creating a triple boot machine (FB, Linux, Vista) and want to keep all non-system files (i.e. any thing I made vs. was installed by the OS [including 3rd party software]) avaible (r/w) by all three OS's. I know I can do this by putting /usr/home on a NTFS partition but am worried about the slowness of ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs (90% of the time I am in FreeBSD and have several things going that need decent disk performence [bit torrents]). Any ideas? BTW an added plus would be some way to automatically have one or all the OS's maintain archival copies for backup purposes ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for ideas: triple booting and personal data
Frank Staals wrote: Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I am creating a triple boot machine (FB, Linux, Vista) and want to keep all non-system files (i.e. any thing I made vs. was installed by the OS [including 3rd party software]) avaible (r/w) by all three OS's. I know I can do this by putting /usr/home on a NTFS partition but am worried about the slowness of ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs (90% of the time I am in FreeBSD and have several things going that need decent disk performence [bit torrents]). Any ideas? BTW an added plus would be some way to automatically have one or all the OS's maintain archival copies for backup purposes ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For my dual-booting laptop ( FreeBSD , WinXP ) I'm using ext2 for my data partiton. Works like a charm for me ( Using http://www.fs-driver.org/ for WinXP and sysutils/e2fsprogs ) Only thing that can be anoying is when FreeBSD crashes and I have to fsck my entire data partiton which can take a while. But possibly this can be avoided by using ext3 instead of ext2 (But the utilities are the same ). If that is the program I am thinking of I tried it on vista and it doesn't work (I tried a fair number of things that claimed to support extX FS's and all of them where a) non-funcitonal on vista [even in compat mode], b) didn't allow for direct mounting in windows, c) where reasonable priced [less then $50]) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with network card in P35+ICH9
Playnet wrote: I have a server based gigabyte MB with core2 quadro, P35+ICH9 From the below let me guess it is in the MSI Neo familiy of Mobo's you will want the following patches for re: http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/re/re.HEAD.patch If I am right about the Mobo you should also be getting mismatching reports on your SATA drives as well the inablity to have SATA and PATA together you will want the following patches to fix that: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/patchs/ahci.diff http://www.flosoft-systems.com/patchs/i82801-marvell.diff FreeBSD 6.2 server# ifconfig -a re0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=1bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING inet 192.168.2.54 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 ether 00:1a:4d:53:54:4d media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier server# dmesg |grep re0 re0: RealTek 8168B/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xf900-0xf9000fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 miibus0: MII bus on re0 re0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:4d:53:54:4d re0: [FAST] But these lan works good into windows with the same cable and connection. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for online text editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PuTTY has no installer - It's just a binary. Actually there is a windows installer for putty - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVcEo358R5LPuPvsRApTsAKC+IowVhU38Jibx2AJe7cgsSrJm9ACgwUQL cD2/4ArJrbYnHuY82Y4cHdc= =mT4g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Download freebsd sourcecode for building in machine not have internet connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cuongvt wrote: I know that we can use cvsup to download all Freebsd source code then make buildworld. But is there a way to download it manually? I means, I have friends that have PCs but not have interenet connecttions, so they may come to internet cafe, download source code to portable USB drive then make build world on their PC. Thanks you. Oops forgot to mention an other solution would be to install FreeBSD on the USB device then do a cvsup on it... do a search for FreeBSD on a Stick on google and there is a step a guide to do just this. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHU74g358R5LPuPvsRAsrXAKDIzfcTqnwmX1o4KjHBtQwF+7fcMQCfeobb E8uzUG+w+9tVXbO6zXaCwt8= =FErd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Download freebsd sourcecode for building in machine not have internet connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cuongvt wrote: sarek wrote: Oops forgot to mention an other solution would be to install FreeBSD on the USB device then do a cvsup on it... do a search for FreeBSD on a Stick on google and there is a step a guide to do just this. Sorry for my unclear English, I mean after download it to USB drive, they can comback home, copy sourcecode from usb drive to /usr/src then make buildword on their PC. So how to download the sourcecode manually not using cvsup ? :) Thats what I thought you meant and the idea is do small enough install on the drive to allow for csup/cvsup'ing the source code. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHU8Ti358R5LPuPvsRAo6OAJ0UYK+Nfl+fCUitmyCh3lszCI1+hACgjjSp BG+B3Krs7Zge9jLlkUa/86A= =rhFz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Repost from [EMAIL PROTECTED] As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions c. Accuracy in dependant port installations d. Internal record keeping e. Granularity's of the port management system 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVBBj358R5LPuPvsRArclAKC8fVFVsva2DPmOQdTWw+/CT+wGywCfWvPl hbX2FSUdh6C61xTDJqnWf/M= =iCiu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? This should read: 7. If the new system corrected the worst aspect of the current system but broke the best aspect of it would you use the new system? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVBiR358R5LPuPvsRAndjAJ4/PtqzAQc0YGIlWkOMC2KU5KZeAQCeInKu ubr3E1ZhOylNLjIOvH+GZGg= =OkIP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calculating checksum in ports
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 bsd wrote: Hello, There is a way to calculate the checksum in ports using make with an argument… I can't remember the name of the argument… cd /usr/ports/... make sums For more detail see ports(8) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVCYc358R5LPuPvsRAld1AJsHrC6v8GVo4PuO6fB9eRrzFgLdgACdFewJ 9McCuHXNbuwOqLDwwprU9+I= =2C5A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RW wrote: but I don't want to logout and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as aryeh) Even though not very flexible or elegant (in the long run) what I ended up doing was just sticking a backgrounded gnome-panel into the .cshrc for each acct - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUUQB358R5LPuPvsRAjDzAKCjg+kh4WXmIS6A+TQiw1wYOQbwDgCbBSYd 3v5Q+O+7CPH2+aPnG7qh/qk= =hCFf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD7 - PAE and nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Naylor wrote: Hi, I have googled, looked though the mailing archives and the FreeBSD Handbook but I have not found out how to build a PAE FreeBSD kernel with nVidia graphics drivers included. This is for an Asus P5N-E system with 4GB of RAM and SLI graphics cards. - From my experience PAE is ok for 4GB but over it stuff get weird... I use amd64 with the nv driver - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUVDl358R5LPuPvsRAqHqAJ9qb74cuN3vqCVIv5v7Ju0g0giTcQCfcvbT XP1KNhpnVQ16r+bkySuK5wg= =3jbA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(OT) thunderbird + enigmail + gmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am running Thunderbird (2.0.0.7) and enigmail (0.95.5) to access my gmail and since last night I get a SSL certificate out of date message (says gmail's cert expired jan. 30 2005). Just for verification the output of date(1) on my end is: Sat Dec 1 11:01:29 EST 2007 Any ideas on how to make this go away? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUYV1358R5LPuPvsRAr3NAJ41z/tDYlb4O+nkdDmIf/pZzketzgCffO/Q F2ybvUg4QFN+zd+5WJ4/6wk= =a8FO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RW wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:21:46 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What I've done in the past is create extra categories in the KDE menu with the names of the other users, and then copy selected applications under there, and change their Run as a different user settings. Except I don't run kde and don't plan to (way too top heavy) AFAIK none of the features I mentioned are unique to KDE Just looked through the options for xfce and see no mention of running as a diff user - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUEH+358R5LPuPvsRAvv+AJ9lg2CXtwdAHiFL8SHZtE+mNgMzagCg1OOH ldcLqoGTJnnKwGsL5B+b59Q= =vq0y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have several sub accounts (for specialized purposes not really a part of an other account) which I do my work basically I have: aryeh -- my personal account web -- maintain my web site dev -- development/testing of software dep -- seperation of development and production code I almost always login into aryeh (xfce via xdm). Both web and dev require the use of variuous X applications but I don't want to logout and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as aryeh)... ideas? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHT9hi358R5LPuPvsRAuuLAJ9SL/+omlsvtgT4vI0WP6b6+uJHnwCeOgKu RxFwBBsyW+KS8QJ0Sn6JuVI= =Gx9J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 RW wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:31:15 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I don't want to logout and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as aryeh) What I've done in the past is create extra categories in the KDE menu with the names of the other users, and then copy selected applications under there, and change their Run as a different user settings. Except I don't run kde and don't plan to (way too top heavy) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUDia358R5LPuPvsRAjjZAJ9BCYivi8DyreomWMIrvWbWvYPNFQCg4uAH wjXGyE5yknVzfW6WAiPjX3I= =yhoN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upper limit on make -j ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian wrote: Isn't 1000 an unrealistically high value? For the next few years maybe but with core counts going up I can easily see a 512 or 1024 core machine by say 2015.. i.e. Moore's law may not apply to single tasking chips any mores but it seems to be in full force for multi-core ones... this brings me to why I tried it in the first place I was exploring weither or not FreeBSD was ready for this kind of core count (specifically the idea of a multitasking OS scheduling by allocating one process per core for core counts greater then say 64)... I am in the process of considering the design requirements for a OS I plan to do from the ground up and like to know the limits of current ones. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHTOJpJ9+1V27SttsRAhMCAJ902zwVIxCGecI2cAdIm2bywN383ACfU243 HMUWkzcO8hH87PecYBmkgLc= =5614 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: idea bouncing: using cvs as a replacement for mergemaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrett Cooper wrote: On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I was thinking seeing the fact that I already have a cvs repo of -current does it make sense to just use CVS to update /etc instead of mergemaster... if so any ideas on doing it cleanly? CVS sucks and I wouldn't wish that requirement on anyone for their base system.. There isn't a decent idiot-proof / foolproof system out there for defeating merging issues... -Garrett I was talking for myself only not anyone else - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHTOZ2J9+1V27SttsRAj6NAJ9WGi/BakGPvcMiRLdyX90gS0hVgQCaAqrF E1x9CjYdxLf42XbF6vus1To= =2gb8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting around ISP SMTP firewall settings (Re: Submitting a new port if send-pr is broken)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 BTW I a redirected this to -questions You should be able to set up a local mailer/MTA (sendmail, postfix, etc.) and tell it to use your ISP's mail server on TCP port 25, and it all should just magically work unless they require SMTP AUTH (not many do from what I've seen; they base authentication on the source IP of customers). sendmail refers to this feature as SMART_HOST, while postfix refers to it as a transport destination (see transport(5)). I have not set the MTA up yet for it but I did test it with thunderbird... an other question how can I set it up that I can receive mail (dynamic IP and 25 inbound is blocked)? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSotEJ9+1V27SttsRAt9YAJ4jChELEEMCUfcdaGbN0cBbTNR6hwCgobMA c0b8rVYs9bcZeAlxLtmv2AE= =BwaS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting around ISP SMTP firewall settings (Re: Submitting a new port if send-pr is broken)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frankly, unless you processing mail for a lot of people, there is no benefit to running your own mailserver, and you really ought to be using a client-server model for getting mail, as you are doing. The OP just hasn't realized this yet. Actually I am processing mail for over a dozen people and almost 100 diff addrs so it does make sense if it is possible. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS7CnJ9+1V27SttsRArGMAJ4xhax13Nd/ikb2CSQikEJVmrAzRwCeLxhT jz/Qhcjy8jmzwq/QP8g0i7g= =9928 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting around ISP SMTP firewall settings (Re: Submitting a new port if send-pr is broken)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Frankly, unless you processing mail for a lot of people, there is no benefit to running your own mailserver, and you really ought to be using a client-server model for getting mail, as you are doing. The OP just hasn't realized this yet. Actually I am processing mail for over a dozen people and almost 100 diff addrs so it does make sense if it is possible. Oops forgot to mention there is a small set of complicating factors: 1. The people and addrs I process mail for all have the same domain but live in locations all around the globe (virtual company) 2. The domain should/must be the same as the company's web page (see my sig for addr) which is on a convention web hosting arrangement 3. As far I can all inbound/outbound smtp/http (25, 587, and 80) are blocked by the ISP (they offer them under a business package that also includes a static IP but currently that is too pricey) 4. The ISP is the only one in my area (semi-rural) that offers high speed bandwidth 5. Even though my web hoster offers mail forwarding it does not offer mail box and/or mailing list hosting (having prepaid for 2 years and only being 2 months into the deal I am not going to switch providers) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS7K8J9+1V27SttsRAoO0AKCaofoaJd+fg0qNXQDYaQ7lcBkeswCglitn W0VpYc+LO3eronkojgV9lwc= =UWBT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In the spirit of Godwin's law - I propose Beastie's law
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Beastie's Law: Any demand of a modification of FreeBSD or it's website using political incorrectness as the justification is automatically wrong. Political Incorrectness is very subjective though. In some circles for example immigrants are foreign born and using the correct term is wrong. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS7cGJ9+1V27SttsRAjF3AJ4qaNUny4XOZRF619DvXqjKhJVivACeIjh+ WZHSiKlrMYZ3EdGiLf65240= =+et8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In the spirit of Godwin's law - I propose Beastie's law
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Earthlings started going downhill about 60 years ago when they dreamed up this device called a TV Set. But there are signs that they figured out what they did and are abandoning them - we are seeing the IQ of the herd rising again and there is a direct correspondence to average TV watching hours. Does this include YouTube? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS8IvJ9+1V27SttsRAqaoAJ9GFlN4UQPW5Ala9WgwW2cr+46PLgCdE78t pxk2LMNMKjhqZ7fyN2uBzjQ= =SM+C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is cvsup10.us.freebsd.org broken?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I am asking the wrong place please tell me. I just attempted a cvsup from that host and got no new files but changed to cvsup3.freebsd.org and got a flood of updates. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS8LlJ9+1V27SttsRArCvAJsEk7NHvLDESNJ3Hrhzbtqas5rpGgCgmfBs SX+c9pKFI0JOtxZDPCpjZsA= =gIXr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting around ISP SMTP firewall settings (Re: Submitting a new port if send-pr is broken)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Really, as others have said, it's easier to pay the money for the business line. How much extra do they want for it? Don't know but a dime is too much right now (I am personally living on $15/mo once the rent, food and connectivity is paid for [the wonders of a startup with no investors]). That is one reason why colo is not possible... yes I understand most of the hassles involved since I was the head sysadmin for a full service ISP in a former life (mid to late 90's). - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS8nGJ9+1V27SttsRArd6AKCRhAduE7P7roZB4x+WohcR1NCUQQCfX6zu i1rqakoG9WshIdsHHYQQdt4= =lWnQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In the spirit of Godwin's law - I propose Beastie's law
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nonsense, it's FreeBSD is not really supported by Flash. Those damned Gnu people don't wish to advocate true open source support but only to get their favorite hodgepodge supported by those who have access to the code. Reminds me of fascists a bit. Comrad Stallman == Comrad Stalin ? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHS84RJ9+1V27SttsRAvaAAKCkfmwkBrVF8LiAYaKeHxAK4YipdgCeOyjK OmyDvgIy1in5AuO4rizOw2s= =4n0w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
getting a background image to display with xcompmgr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 xcompmgr seems to place itself on top of anything else on the root window thus covering up any xv/feh/xsetroot images... how do I get a background image to display on top of xcompmgr - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSTobJ9+1V27SttsRAjtCAJ0RCggqzJHOi9sZx8c2wroZHHhttACdHcF6 FDpuB7OYsimgRuxqbTAngdc= =UftY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: who wrote this
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I might consider the man to be a maniac but he did utter some truths, Should we automatically disqualify them? Even the devil is right sometimes does that mean we should follow him? Let's see: 1 authbaun = 6 million jews 1 trip to the moon = 50 million russians 1 vw bug = 20 million brits and americans 1 war = priceless -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSfUlJ9+1V27SttsRAkMJAJ9XsKT7BcgiLjXgdjg24So6P0S5qACgoHWG zq116oPgBb72nbumjnCpJiY= =dGDp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Deskjet 9800 with hpijs driver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erin McNew wrote: I've been trying to get my photo printer working recently, and seem to have run into a bit of a snag. I just tried to print out a picture as a test, and instead of a picture, I got: PCL commands across the top of one page of photo paper, and the printer spewed the rest of my paper out empty (taught me an important lesson about testing without having large quantities of photo paper in the printer...) Anyway, I was looking on google, and I don't seem to see other people having this problem, but I'm not sure what I could've done wrong. I'm using the hpijs driver, which is supposed to work perfectly under linux, and works perfectly for my other hp printer. Is this printer just not supported by FreeBSD? I couldn't find anything that stated directly either way in my quick googling, so I was hoping somebody here might have some ideas for things to check, etc. My 6980 has the same problem with hpijs and hplip... try cups (it should autodetect) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSm26J9+1V27SttsRAmvKAKCNmRnACVy4blTZ/VfTDCKHLa2tKQCfdhZD yn4yMOzU/5U4K65hG2Kljxg= =K2OD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Walther wrote: On 23/11/2007, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: [...] I like to make my own desktop. Sounds familiar. :-) Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness: Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer feh +applications you like like. Edit .xsession as follows Well I pretty much went this way: abrwm (evilwm) (tinywm didn't have vwindows), fbpanel, xv, idesk, transset-dt, I have not selected a fm yet... For the most part I really like it (lean and mean) but one feature that several my apps support is transparent windows but seems abrwm for what ever reason doesn't support this and will completely ignore any windows with it... so I am looking for the next smallest wm that can do virtual windows and transparency... I know openbox, ion, xfwm all can do it but want something even lighter. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSC8iJ9+1V27SttsRAjSlAJwKuH5e+KpZDAcs84aRUf5ErR6U9wCgjV5T tg8/85bPgfU31cqWeWdFJiQ= =Wfbh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(off topic?) Best desktop
I have used gnome for several years now after finding kde lacking in features but just tried kde and have to say I like the programs it comes with (but I find gnome easier to use) I also know there are other desktops out there (as being defined as a something more then a high end window manager)... which is best? My work load is that of a typical business owner and CS grad student/Java developer plus acting as my TV (don't have one and don't have any kind of reception [too far in the country {and do not which to have cable}]) via dl'ed shows -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: who do I report this to?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The first thing to do is to make sure it is not your ISP inflicting you with some slowdown. Connect a second node to the re interface (put a switch between you and the modem, and connect something else to it) and see if your connection speed to that local machine is affected. If not, then it is your isp that is the problem. Change ISPs to a legitimate one. I guess you don't read -current it is a confirmed re(4) issue (plus some other things but the ISP has nothing to do with it) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRScDJ9+1V27SttsRAlJDAJ9RkHvocRj6Eiw+rqyQQq+fx37e7ACglwmI xfNQ7Und4cZRHAGFerHGI+Y= =w0id -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using brandelf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Robey wrote: Can you use brandelf to read the elf type of a binary? The man page shows a usage that might possibly do this, but doesn't bother to say what that usage does. To be honest, I need to do some work with the linux stuff, and the usage of /compat/linux and /usr/compat/linux, well, I don't understand, and I haven't seen a good enough explanation yet. Stuff like the ld.so.conf file to configure linux's ldconfig, it assumes the /compat/linux prefix. Do all the binaries do that? I mean, the browser files, they use a sh scri[t to kick them off, do they use that prefix, or assume stuff? I need to know this so I can keep going forward on getting flash to work. If you're attempting to rebrand the linux flash exec (I assume 9 since I know for a fact 7 works right out of the box [ff 2.0.0.9, gnome 2.20.1, amd64 8-current]) no amount of hacking will make it like FreeBSD since it uses some linux specific stuff... your better off learning compat... - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQ7diJ9+1V27SttsRAmYbAJ4r3KO7wEuNvanWLaFVt2Oi6JCcugCgmRZ6 gaTlv0fCAMe8EO0oee8Uty8= =F6Ka -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
who do I report this to?
rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto re0: Ethernet address: 00:19:db:b5:f8:0f re0: [FILTER] re0: [FILTER] uhci2: UHCI (generic) USB controller port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb3: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci2 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: UHCI (generic) USB controller port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb4: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb4 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: UHCI (generic) USB controller port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci4: [ITHREAD] usb5: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb5 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: UHCI (generic) USB controller port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci5: [ITHREAD] usb6: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb6 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfcdff800-0xfcdffbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci1: [ITHREAD] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb3 usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb7 uhub7: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib5: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: ACPI PCI bus on pcib5 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 0xfd00-0xfdff,0xf000-0xf7ff irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci5 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci1: Intel ICH9 SATA300 controller port 0xc000-0xc007,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xb880-0xb887,0xb800-0xb803,0xb480-0xb48f,0xb400-0xb40f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata3: ATA channel 0 on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: ATA channel 1 on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci2: Intel ICH9 SATA300 controller port 0xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa880-0xa887,0xa800-0xa803,0xa480-0xa48f,0xa400-0xa40f irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0 atapci2: [ITHREAD] ata5: ATA channel 0 on atapci2 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: ATA channel 1 on atapci2 ata6: [ITHREAD] acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] fdc0: floppy drive controller (FDE) port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] ppc0: Parallel port port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcefff on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 ums0: Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 1000, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.21, addr 2 on uhub0 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad4: 194481MB Maxtor 6Y200P0 YAR41BW0 at ata2-master UDMA133 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4 is ufs/intad5: 238475MB WDC WD2500JB-22REA0 20.00K20 at ata2-slave UDMA100 disk2. ad6: 476940MB Seagate ST3500630AS 3.AAE at ata3-master SATA300 acd0: DVDR PLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A/1.08 at ata4-master SATA150 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC888 pcm0: HDA Driver Revision: 20071020_0048 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQoiuJ9+1V27SttsRAlLXAJwI+OPgLH/0G4MR6gzB/7Dw+flhGACdEaBB zWErhfuW3gBIn75f+t3ao78= =ImbR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: congrlations to the freebsd developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-11-17 22:44, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-11-17 18:53, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Warner Losh wrote: You can run FreeBSD/i386 on amd64 boxes. All the different methods people have suggested to me for doing this has blown up also since I use a nvidia card it is almost pointless unless I can run the nvidia kernel module. That's odd. The laptop I'm typing this is amd64-capable, but installing from the FreeBSD/i386 release CD-ROMs worked like a charm. Which methods have you tried? With 4GB and a E6850 (P35/IHC9(R)) almost all the pci devices I had where reconized *EXCEPT* any nvdidia card under i386 this was instantly fixed as soon I switched to amd64. Sorry, but I can barely parse the sentence above. Do you mean that you _did_ installl i386, but it had issues? Yes to starting with i386 and moving to amd64 - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP/+cJ9+1V27SttsRArb1AJ9+Pl9C65JhoqhV5glmjwHkkd8GsgCffS0j gbEGChReJu0q45ylY0/EncM= =C+3c -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mounting a ufs file system in a microslut os
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have microslut vista as a dual boot (before anyone suggests wine please refer to previous threads on amd74 vs. wine) and want to access my FreeBSD file systems from it (and later linux when I install it as a triple boot). It is the only machine on the network so nfs/samba/etc. is not an option... ideas? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQOefJ9+1V27SttsRAvq7AJ42oJvUVoY4u8DMhstpjyXLzGIl5gCfSKcn +WWfNeatBT8kuzxpYYbMon8= =O4DN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems building fusefs-kmod
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === Building for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fuse_module (all) /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk, line 12: can't find kernel source tree I use the source layout described in development(7) and have set SRC_BASE to /usr/src2 (I always buildworld from here not /usr/src). FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Nov 15 19:17:50 EST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQOnaJ9+1V27SttsRAivGAKCHcI/W1KkfPFXTEJS8IL+IsGGVcgCfbUIi +BJk/ZEpTGshNT5Ia/zwXpM= =/vn/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems building fusefs-kmod
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yuri Pankov wrote: On Monday 19 November 2007 04:41:46 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: === Building for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fuse_module (all) /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk, line 12: can't find kernel source tree I use the source layout described in development(7) and have set SRC_BASE to /usr/src2 (I always buildworld from here not /usr/src). FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Nov 15 19:17:50 EST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 Looking through /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk reveals that you need to set SYSDIR to location of your `sys' directory. === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found === Found saved configuration for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 = fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch from http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/downloads/. fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2 100% of 109 kB 974 Bps 00m00s === Extracting for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 = MD5 Checksum OK for fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2. = SHA256 Checksum OK for fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2. === Patching for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === Applying FreeBSD patches for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 depends on package: fusefs-libs2.4.1 - found === fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 depends on executable: deplate - found === Configuring for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === Building for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fuse_module (all) Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports.workdir/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/work/fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1/fuse_module @ - /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys machine - /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/amd64/include awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -p awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -q awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -h cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona - -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ - -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 - --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common - -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 - -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float - -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls - -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes - -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign - -fformat-extensions -c fuse_main.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona - -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ - -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 - --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common - -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 - -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float - -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls - -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes - -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign - -fformat-extensions -c fuse_msg.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona - -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ - -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 - --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common - -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 - -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float - -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls - -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes - -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign - -fformat-extensions -c fuse_dev.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona - -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ - -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 - --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common - -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 - -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float - -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls - -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes - -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign - -fformat-extensions -c fuse_vfsops.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona - -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ - -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 - --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common - -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 - -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float - -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls - -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes - -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign - -fformat-extensions -c fuse_vnops.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona
Re: problems building fusefs-kmod
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yuri Pankov wrote: On Monday 19 November 2007 05:00:39 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Monday 19 November 2007 04:41:46 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: === Building for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fuse_module (all) /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk, line 12: can't find kernel source tree I use the source layout described in development(7) and have set SRC_BASE to /usr/src2 (I always buildworld from here not /usr/src). FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Nov 15 19:17:50 EST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 Looking through /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk reveals that you need to set SYSDIR to location of your `sys' directory. === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found === Found saved configuration for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 = fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch from http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/downloads/. fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2 100% of 109 kB 974 Bps 00m00s === Extracting for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 = MD5 Checksum OK for fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2. = SHA256 Checksum OK for fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1.tar.bz2. === Patching for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === Applying FreeBSD patches for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 depends on package: fusefs-libs2.4.1 - found === fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 depends on executable: deplate - found === Configuring for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === Building for fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1_2 === fuse_module (all) Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports.workdir/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod /work/fuse4bsd-0.3.9-pre1/fuse_module @ - /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys machine - /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/amd64/include awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -p awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -q awk -f @/tools/vnode_if.awk @/kern/vnode_if.src -h cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c fuse_main.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c fuse_msg.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c fuse_dev.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c fuse_vfsops.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=nocona -march=nocona -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I../include -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat
Re: mounting a ufs file system in a microslut os
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ Didn't reconize any of my UFS filesytems... tried UFS Explorer semi-worked (the file system I need is /dev/ad5s1 [note no partition letter!]:monster# ls /dev/ad* /dev/ad4/dev/ad4cs1 /dev/ad5s1 /dev/ad6s2 /dev/ad6s2c /dev/ad6s2f /dev/ad4a /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad6/dev/ad6s2a /dev/ad6s2d /dev/ad6s2g /dev/ad4c /dev/ad5/dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s2b /dev/ad6s2e /dev/ad6s2h /dev/ad6s2a / ufs rw 1 1 devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0 /dev/ad6s2f /FreeBSD ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad6s2e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad6s2h /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad6s2g /usr/obj ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad6s2d /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad5s1 /usr/home ufs rw 2 2 proc/proc procfs rw 0 0 linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 /dev/ad6s1 /mnt/windows ntfsrw 0 0 Note on the /mnt/windows entry is it unwritable for reasons handled in fusefs-kmod thread - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQPgPJ9+1V27SttsRAqdaAJ9f3CUDayAuFJByXhbFsnPv7y2tpACfcQOF Eebn8dxMs8oMYb6RLIZK208= =3gaD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems building fusefs-kmod
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yuri Pankov wrote: MAKE_ENV+=SYSDIR=${SRC_BASE}/sys MOUNT=${SRC_BASE}/sbin/mount that did the trick... is there any way to scan the ports tree to see if this is an issue with anything else? BTW any more ideas on the the windows--ufs question? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQP6sJ9+1V27SttsRAl5QAKCRjjPf2W9LKRcXqdTUHnJzyVkmAgCePFJ0 7rscSE7sP5XS0pj6mO4b78Y= =6jWJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems building fusefs-kmod
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That did the trick, thanks in the PR can you also include a request to make a symlink or something to thue module in /boot/kernel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQQCoJ9+1V27SttsRAnmQAJ9yVXDQvDdVSJ3HXTMnxnZuJnhRlwCfYWKp F4FOQsQW3EdXr3tQfSQhOP0= =9ubU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
congrlations to the freebsd developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After having the help of several developers to resolve hw issues on my machine I have set up a 2 dual boot enviroment between 8-current (for desktop use) and vista.I am just writting to say 8-current kicks vista's ass in response time, stability [note 1], and almost every other aspect except for end-user oriented office apps [note 2] and games. Notes: 1. As was posted in an other thread my nic still has a slow death issue 2. I meant features not formats and since I am using amd64 no wine - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPyUKJ9+1V27SttsRAq6FAJ91vQ/oxWGBN+IVqIsPXA8oWODgnACcCZ8a T9/R/6Zz1tovsNtrvP0RU2s= =g5sJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: congrlations to the freebsd developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : After having the help of several developers to resolve hw issues on my : machine I have set up a 2 dual boot enviroment between 8-current (for : desktop use) and vista.I am just writting to say 8-current kicks : vista's ass in response time, stability [note 1], and almost every : other aspect except for end-user oriented office apps [note 2] and games. : : Notes: : : 1. As was posted in an other thread my nic still has a slow death issue : 2. I meant features not formats and since I am using amd64 no wine You can run FreeBSD/i386 on amd64 boxes. All the different methods people have suggested to me for doing this has blown up also since I use a nvidia card it is almost pointless unless I can run the nvidia kernel module. - --Aryeh - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP37nJ9+1V27SttsRAuEsAJ9FN80TH243ApUahdvBkxES2KbBZgCcCEpZ AD9ACLTTvbnhrBHrxhk7JnA= =68JJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: congrlations to the freebsd developers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-11-17 18:53, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Warner Losh wrote: You can run FreeBSD/i386 on amd64 boxes. All the different methods people have suggested to me for doing this has blown up also since I use a nvidia card it is almost pointless unless I can run the nvidia kernel module. That's odd. The laptop I'm typing this is amd64-capable, but installing from the FreeBSD/i386 release CD-ROMs worked like a charm. Which methods have you tried? With 4GB and a E6850 (P35/IHC9(R)) almost all the pci devices I had where reconized *EXCEPT* any nvdidia card under i386 this was instantly fixed as soon I switched to amd64. Even though I don't feel like rehashing all the stuff that I had to go through to get some stuff working (do a search for threads started by me) suffice it to say that when I first got the box 90% of the devices that the machine came with either where not functional and/or had driver issues. After working with the people on -current (and learning a fair amount about the guts of FreeBSD) there are only 3 issues left: 1. The NIC slowly dies (see re(4) slowly dies) 2. Problems reading/writting from dvd/cd (see the many threads on ihc9 issues on -current [note to Jeremy the Phillips just arrived but I am in the process of doing a portupgrade -afk so will test it tommorow]) 3. The issues with nvidia kernel module on amd64 (alternativelly does anyone know how hard it would be to get bettern 1024x768 with nv?) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP7UVJ9+1V27SttsRAjlPAJ4wqFDaow0JvT23Copd3M27x5exXACdGT1+ VYEXsDwG7uUYUtuyqqQwK2M= =8Tbq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unimpressive buildworld time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And here I was thinking it was a 'my machine can beat up your machine' thread. ;) The orginial thread perhaps this one is along the lines of I did everything I could to slow buildworld down and this is how I did it. Speaking of that the worst I have seen was my current machine under 6.2-RELEASE, didn't time buildworld but installworld was 4 hours. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPbLHJ9+1V27SttsRAuMvAJ0TaFDUCLKzzBupl55q89BjGKQiYgCZAVgs NSaR4zK4Jt+n4DMYyXbpC54= =vXEt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnupg keysize
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peo Nilsson wrote: Dear listmembers. When browsing: http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#INTRO It says: The size of a DSA key must be between 512 and 1024 bits. It also says: The ElGamal key may be of any size. Who and why has defined this? In my opinion, the size of a key is a question for the user. - -- #toc, .toc, .mw-warning { border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9f9f9; padding: 5px; font-size: 95%; } #toc h2, .toc h2 { display: inline; border: none; padding: 0; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold; } #toc #toctitle, .toc #toctitle, #toc .toctitle, .toc .toctitle { text-align: center; } #toc ul, .toc ul { list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none; margin-left: 0; padding-left: 0; text-align: left; } #toc ul ul, .toc ul ul { margin: 0 0 0 2em; } #toc .toctoggle, .toc .toctoggle { font-size: 94%; [EMAIL PROTECTED] print, projection, embossed { body { padding-top:1in; padding-bottom:1in; padding-left:1in; padding-right:1in; } } body { font-family:'Times New Roman'; color:#00; widows:2; font-style:normal; text-indent:0in; font-variant:normal; font-size:12pt; text-decoration:none; font-weight:normal; text-align:left; } table { } td { border-collapse:collapse; text-align:left; vertical-align:top; } p, h1, h2, h3, li { color:#00; font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; text-align:left; vertical-align:normal; } --Different encryption schemes are known to be secure for certain key sizes and have not been tested and/or known to be breakable for other ones. This combined with the fact that PGP and other encryption front ends such as SSH and SSL need to meet certain standards for the US government (and by extension most of the major corps around the world) all of which require predefined key lengths means that the user does not and should not in most cases have complete freedom to select key sizes. If your concerned about security the best thing to do is get involved with various efforts to develop 2nd/3rd generation public-key algorithms. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPHeYJ9+1V27SttsRAouVAKCUlutI1KShPWOszBX2EhHLzBvsUQCcCD/y verURUjM/6E8gq8/Jl66Ghk= =SdsH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unimpressive buildworld time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla SATA drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes wall time building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. Why on earth do -j 20? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPRraJ9+1V27SttsRAgI0AKCaLW28j+XFMz2J7Ex/geAuqM+icwCfW891 awe9BXRh5x0QNW78qKHmGsA= =2kto -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unimpressive buildworld time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrett Cooper wrote: Tim Daneliuk wrote: Jonathan Horne wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) takes ~2 hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to do that). My other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 hours to build kernel and world (Celeron 500...). Just to supply some numbers that go the other direction :-) With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the foreground (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig (amd64) p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: -- World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 -- real63m8.635s user102m44.096s sys 10m44.889s [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 cheers, My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla SATA drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes wall time building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. SMP kernels on STABLE (6.x) are going to perform worse than SMP kernels on CURRENT (7-RELENG / 8-CURRENT), depending on the scheduler used (4BSD vs ULE scheduler), as well as a variety of other factors. Remember... performance not only depends upon clock speed or the number of cores you have, but also what caching/prefetching scheme FreeBSD uses (not sure if it's fetches large amounts infrequently or small amounts frequently), how much memory is available to make and its spawned processes (gcc, awk, etc), as well as the number of processes active on the machine, and host usage (high disk usage, high memory usage, etc). After reading through the thread, I noticed that people are making comparing apples to oranges, as... Some people are taking this thread *WAY TOO SERIOUS* as far I can tell it is meant as a light hearted lets post funny numbers thread. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPS2RJ9+1V27SttsRAteLAKCPAcEL9UIyBonCU4/5ZYUzejUhsACeOqL6 YFh9oTl8TkOmbfJXLvbueyE= =hDCA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you verify the MD5 checksum on the ISO images? This is completely off topic but MD5 is not secure: http://www.infosec.sdu.edu.cn/paper/md5-attack.pdf Similar weaknesses have been found in the entire MD/SHA families. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHO4GaJ9+1V27SttsRAvb2AJ9puUWSDVvxGGOLfTaR9X7cpLW6IwCcDk2w 02p+A6JE7A/f7midhn+wPSc= =G9j/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
acroread prints from standalone app but not from browser plugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 acroread7 prints from standalong app but not from firefox plugin; firefox prints web pages fine. Any ideas? FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Nov 12 13:08:23 EST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHO6XwJ9+1V27SttsRAhnCAJ4+fmlwT0CI5DEDLZJkwZwxb9JI8ACfb3yZ dBdi+aWftWQCBM9ztd+GTmw= =WaIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I have been told that this solution works fine out of the box on FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. Works right out of the box for all versions of FreeBSD 6 I just did it on a 8-Current machine doing the following port installs in this order: firefox linux-flashplugin7 acroread7 after you install acroread run nspluginwrapper -v -a -i. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOGdhJ9+1V27SttsRAlYhAJwLmRfkU5eT9ugh3P1gfH0ImZO4RwCeI1xF IrALlh7qkHerjj5BwNa3Qq4= =P1uM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tino Engel wrote: Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I have been told that this solution works fine out of the box on FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. Works right out of the box for all versions of FreeBSD 6 I just did it on a 8-Current machine doing the following port installs in this order: firefox linux-flashplugin7 acroread7 after you install acroread run nspluginwrapper -v -a -i. So did I. When I run firefox then, I get an error message as follows: freebsdangel# firefox LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so [Shared object libdl.so.2 not found, required by libflashplayer.so] But the library is existing: freebsdangel# find / -name libdl.so.2 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 freebsdangel# And even adjusting the path does not help: freebsdangel# setenv PATH ${PATH}:/usr/compat/linux/lib The result is the same: So basically the question is: How can I tell FreeBSD where to find the requested lib?? Did you do it from packages or ports? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHONKwJ9+1V27SttsRArfZAJ9mwg0zZD7ZlRDT5r4KY6bGZ2eSUQCeKn81 BNfbsfMQl1PXP25TNX8v3I8= =gFhb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]