Re: Edit user groups
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 09:23:32PM -0700, Tim Judd wrote: Clifton Royston wrote: Good advice given so far (pw is a good tool, direct editing works) but I'd also suggest you consider installing and using sudo; I always install it on all of my systems and use it probably 10-20 times as often as su. ... I think sudo is a false sense of security. If a user trusts another, and give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them? Among other reasons, because it allows you to partition privileges and give access for specific users (or groups of users) to specific accounts only, or to execute only a specific set of commands as root or another user. When I was running a department of technical support staff and another group of junior administrators, this ability to limit and partition powers was a life-saver. I think you mistrust sudo because you do not yet understand it as well as su (also essential, but a more blunt instrument.) Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead with a box with sudo installed. I think it's a very misleading tool. And not to say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you monitor the sudo source code? Rarely, but it's freely available, and thousands if not tens of thousands of other programmers and admins have access to it, and do check it enough to find the occasional bug. Same as the source to su, or to the OS as a whole; has it never occurred to you there are trust issues there as well? And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is a SUID bit to root. Dude, how do you think su works? -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filesystem tunning
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote: Hi, Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a secondary storage device cannot be mounted?. I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device with a custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode? I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to 0 checking will not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue booting anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will check the filesystem and send a mail, for example. Try this: Set to noauto in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if it's OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Edit user groups
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:09:16PM -0500, Akenner wrote: Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE and I have multiple user accounts set up. I made about 4 for myself to use and do various testing with, and made some for my Wife as well because She knows UNIX better than I do anyway heh. Anyway, one of the things I forgot about, was that FreeBSD by default doesn't allow just anyone to use su. Good advice given so far (pw is a good tool, direct editing works) but I'd also suggest you consider installing and using sudo; I always install it on all of my systems and use it probably 10-20 times as often as su. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:34:26PM -0500, FreeBSD wrote: I'm having difficulties trying to clone a FreeBSD 7.1 PC to another exact same PC over SSH. There is my the things I tried: I found that link http://devpit.org/wiki/Dump_and_Restore_over_SSH which seemed exactly what I wanted. The problem is that FreeSBIE is not working on this PC (Dell Vostro 220 Slim). It seems to be a problem with the disk controler (can't mount the / partition). So, I decided to install a minimal FreeBSD 7.1 on the PC to be cloned. I'm trying to dump/restore the /usr partition but I got warnings with the files already being present and it finally crashed SSHd just after transfering /usr/lib/libssl.so. After that, there is nothing to do with the PC, SSHd refuse to restart (segmentation fault). It sounds like you're trying to restore onto the non-empty /usr partition while running programs from that partition. I don't think that is ever likely to work, and I'm not surprised that your sshd crashes and won't restart when you've replaced some-but-not-all of its files. You should restore non-incremental dump backups onto a file system made freshly empty with newfs, which you can do if you bring the system up in single-user mode or boot it from other media like a live CD. This is why the FreeSBIE CD is an essential part of the plan at the link you posted. You will probably have to start again from scratch on the PC you're cloning onto; find some media you can boot it from, or install it to where you can bring it up in single-user and run some listener which is simpler than sshd. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Embedded scripting language advice sought
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 06:41:59PM -0500, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: For a project I'm working on, I need to find an scripting language, and I have a long wishlist: - able to be easily embedded in a C++ application - real object-oriented with inheritance (preferably multiple inheritance) - able to implement object methods in C++ where needed - sandbox operation (e.g. ability to suppress any file I/O system libraries, but keep math and string libraries) - thread-safe, or, at least able to have multiple coexisting execution contexts in one running process - relatively user-friendly syntax (i.e. (not (lisp (based - has to build and embed on FreeBSD This is a mathematical model, and the goal is to write certain high-performance parts in C++, but to provide the user a command-line style interface where they can explore interactively, examine/tweak data values, etc, and then override certain behavior by subclassing from the C++ base classes using the scripting language to see how it affects the next model iteration. One thread is handling the model calculations, and one handles the user's exploration, with appropriate synchronization when changes are made. (We are doing this already, but since the code is C++, only the data can be edited while it's running and inspection is limited to our hacky pseudo-language.) Some of these criteria seem to match TCL's design criteria (easy embeddability, relatively user friendly, able to implement methods in a compiled language) but core TCL falls down on the object-orientation side. However there is actually a choice of object models in TCL, with at least one of them [incr TCL] closely modeled on C++'s object model. You might find this worth looking into. I'm not a TCL maven, just worked with it a bit on a past employer's project where it was the primary scripting language for a large commercial hardware-test system. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?
My FreeBSD file server at home has been running for 5 or 6 years on a succession of generic PC small form factor boxes (a.k.a shoebox cases.) I'm not very happy with this approach, because the hardware keeps dying every two years or so. The latest incarnation is getting flakier and flakier and it's time to replace it. I think one problem is that the cooling is lousy on the ones I've used, at least with two hard drives - I've ended up running with the cover off so it won't die rapidly - but maybe there are better ones out there. Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and which is both long-lived and fairly quiet? (It sits on my desk, and near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many 1U servers will not cut it.) As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least two standard 3.5 hard drives and have an IDE interface. (Eventually I may switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at the same time.) I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring. I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged system if it offers better value. Any advice would be welcomed. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OS bug in taskq
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 01:03:14PM -0700, Elliot Finley wrote: I have: dumpdev=AUTO in /etc/rc.conf and: ... in the kernel and I'm still unable to obtain a crash dump. Hopefully there is enough info in this email for a hacker to point me in the right direction to debug this. I can't help with the panic itself, but the reason for the inability to obtain a crash dump is mentioned in a thread I started in November: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-November/038069.html The explanation of the problem was documented best by Doug Barton in this thread (over at freebsd-rc@): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2007-November/001263.html Open PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118255 Why does it work *sometimes* then? Or was this particular problem introduced more recently than the 6.2 branch? I have two apparently similarly configured systems running 6.2p8, with identical hardware, identical apps, and identical load, and I have at least attempted to configure them the same way. Both have /var/crash set up and dumpon enabled in rc.conf. Both crashed in the last week. I got a dump on one, which I now need to analyze, but have twice failed to get a dump on the other. (Once this past week, once the previous month.) -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hints for small file system
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 10:29:37PM +, mail.schatti.ch wrote: If you had to choose amongst the available filesystems on 5.4 to contain just about 500kB to a MB, which would you use, and with what parameters ? Which of these has the lowest administration overhead, the lowest space overhead ? One thing going for FAT32 for portable media is that it can be read and written reliably by any major OS on the market now - Linux, OS X, or of course Windows XP/NT or 98. You could view that as a positive or negative depending on the application. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.4 apache vs. apache+mod_ssl and mod_php4 dependencies.
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 07:20:49AM -0700, Joe Capali wrote: Back in the day...4.9-RELEASE you were able to install apache+mod_ssl and mod_php4. Now 5.4-RELEASE requires apache as a dependency to install mod_php4 and fails with apache+mod_ssl already installed. Don't know if this is a problem just I am having. I would like to end up with my 4.9 config on 5.4, any ideas would be appreciated. All references are to apache 1.3. (I'm not on my FreeBSD machines at the moment, but I just did this a couple days ago.) I believe what you want to do is: cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 make OPTIONS=openssl install + usually you want to cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions make install By *default*, php4 builds both the CLI for PHP and mod_php4; there are separate port entry points to build one or the other alone. Poke around the ports directories and look at the pkg-descr and pkg-message files, and/or the Makefiles themselves. OPTIONS tells it what type of Apache installation to look for among other things. BTW, I recommend you go to Apache 2 when you can, as it's been stable for years now and that's where all the development is going on. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: two ISP connections, three nics, and a NAT
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 11:06:39AM -0400, Tomas Quintero wrote: PF is wonderful for this. I manage a router with 3 DSL Circuits and have PF setup to round-robin between them. The configuration is fairly simple, and I can provide my pf.conf if you'd like for some clarification on how to go about doing it. Actually, I for one would be quite interested in seeing this. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS freeze
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:52:52AM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: Kelly D. Grills wrote: Have a look at section 23.3.5 of the handbook. -r=1024 cured my problems. Thank you, this solves the problem when mounting manually. I also highly recommend the intr option to all NFS mounts. This largely eliminates the unkillable process problem. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cdce Patch
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 02:29:02PM +0800, Zhiliang wrote: Hi, Could anyone enlightten me on how to apply a patch to a port? i recently installed the port cdce and encountered cdce0: could not find data bulk in. there's a patch available fo this, patch-if_cdce.c, bu t i have no idea how to apply it. If it happens to be named beginning with patch-, then simply putting it in the files subdirectory of the port in question usually does the job. The ports makefile system has code for automatically applying any patch- files found in the files directory. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with pop3 daemons
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 04:58:40PM +0200, Gal Ben-Haim wrote: Im running a mailserver on FreeBSD 5.4, for some time now im experiencing problems with downloading large messages (above 1 mb but i don't know from which size it starts) through pop3: After about 30 secs of downloading, the download just hangs, qpopper's output to the logs is: ay 11 16:31:00 loki qpopper[57578]: I/O error flushing output to client xxx Operation not permitted (1). I tried to switch pop3 daemon, and tried popd, pop3lite and pop3ad.. all did the same thing but didn't report anything.. This is one for the qpopper mailing list, but to save you some trouble, the not pemitted is what qpopper reports when the client end of the connection has gone away and it finds it's writing to a closed socket. It gets seen on all kinds of platforms and is not a BSD issue, nor (usually) an OS configuration issue. This almost always indicates a buggy POP client which is failing on some message, and/or a client which is running AV software which transparently hijacks POP connections in order to scan them. In either case you need to see what's going on on the client end. qpopper is merely more verbose about reporting this than most POP servers. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need further HDD advice before submitting order.
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 04:19:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, I posted a question here last week, asking for advice on how I should ask my datacenter to divide up the HDDs in my new server. Thank you to everyone who responded. I have tried to understand all the advice given and, since then, have tried to get myself up to speed by reading the relevant sections in The Complete FreeBSD, FreeBSD Unleashed, Absolute BSD and Teach Yourself FreeBSD in 24 Hours (it didn't). I understand a little more than I did but am still unsure as to how I should divide the HDDs and would very much appreciate reactions to my current proposal. -- Server purpose: Initially just forums, later sundry other Web apps i.e. ecommerce, ticket bookings etc. Will possibly become a heavy-duty email server at some stage. 2GB RAM 80GB HDD IDE: / = 1GB /usr = 15GB /local = 15GB Swap = 4GB Unallocated = 40GB 200GB HDD IDE: /tmp = 2GB (is that enough?) /home = 28GB /var = 100GB (will inclube the forum databases etc) Unallocated = 70GB Two tips I always do on *BSD systems nowadays: 1) Create and newfs an /altroot partition on the boot drive, of equal size to /, and occasionally sync it from / using dump/restore or rsync. The rest of the time leave it mounted ro. If / gets damaged in a failed upgrade or just via bad luck, you're nearly assured of being able to boot off of /altroot to repair things. It's the kind of thing you might use only once in several years but which saves you a ton of grief then. (Mind you, in your remote data center situation, you would need to talk a technician on the console through the steps to boot from it; make sure you know how to do that.) 2) Take the extra space that you're marking as unallocated, create and newfs the partitions as /data (or sometimes /data, /data2, /data3...), and go ahead and mount it. Then when you run into some application that needs to use it, you can either symlink it into the main filesystem or configure the application to go directly there. For example, ln -s /data /var/db/mysql or CVSROOT=/data/cvs Otherwise what you're proposing looks good at first glance. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MySQL port building solution: -O is required
Here is the answer to the problem I was wrestling with a couple weeks ago: /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-server and /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server do *not* build on 4.x systems unless *some* level of optimization is turned on. 'CFLAGS=' fails on 4.x releases; 'CFLAGS=-O' works. (as does -O -pipe and probably higher levels.) Not tested on 5-STABLE. I'm guessing that the machines where ports building is tested have '-O -pipe' or similar as a minimum setting. However /etc/make.conf has no default setting for CFLAGS, so with the out of box default settings of everything the build of this port will consistently fail. The problem appears to be, from some cursory digging through the sources, that a number of MySQL functions including MySQL's internal interfaces to the thread libraries are defined only via inlining if the OS *platform* is known to support it, but inlining is not actually enabled (at least in GCC 2.95) unless -O or better is set. I tracked this down once I realized that the key difference between the system where I could build it and the system where I couldn't was that the former's /etc/make.conf was heavily customized, and the latter's was untouched except for the variables set by use.perl ports. I'll file a pr on this, as well as the necessary tweaking on my own system. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cdce Patch
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 10:40:29AM +0800, Zhiliang wrote: Hi Clifton, Thanks...i tried that but did not have any effect...would l need to copy revised Makefile into the directory as well? No, but you do need to run make deinstall to safely remove the installed version and then make clean to remove your first attempt to build it. It's probably not applying the patch and recompiling, if it has a version already built in the work subdirectory. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day?
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:18:36PM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: ... Real memory = 100663296 (96 MB) Available memory = 93036544 (88 MB) Doesn't. As you suggested, I compared these with diff, ignoring the gratuitous spacing modification using diff -b. In the end, I don't think I can consider even one of your changes to be an improvement. The closest you came to a useful change was the capitalisation of Real memory, but that's hardly necessary, and the accompanying change to the next line upsets the formatting. Ofcourse it doesn't improve the functionality. And I get the feeling that's what you're all about. Indeed, you understand correctly. Functionality is exactly what the BSD family of OSs is all about. Most kernel developers are busy with activities like improving system performance on multi-CPU systems, increasing OS reliability with SATA drives, and other activities of a deep and essential nature. I don't generally tell the kernel developers what to do, because I know that they know their own knowledge domain far better than I do. [...] In short, I think you should find some other way to pretty up your FreeBSD boot. As suggested earlier, try man splash. Again, I want it to look correct. The appearance is a matter of personal taste, and de gustibus non disputandum. Your claim that your personal preference is correct does not cause other people to prefer it. It should be clear by now that you are getting nowhere trying to persuade others to implement this for you, so your only course is to implement it yourself. If these changes matter a great deal to you, I suggest you invest the sweat to change it on your own system. You have all the sources, you have the power. If you don't know how yet, you have the opportunity to learn. If you succeed and post public patches to do it, then others can share the changes if they wish, and you will get some smidgen of positive recognition and credibility. If this matters so much to you, it should be worth your effort. If you are incapable of making these changes, then your preferences will get some smidgin less weight, as there will be that much less evidence that your opinions should be valued. The open source world is largely a meritocracy and technocracy; this is not to say that politics and opinions play no part, but generally speaking working code wins. Mostly people in the OSS world take it for granted that others understand this, which may be why nobody has told you this in so many words before now. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pthread compiler issues
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 05:11:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twas said by Kris Kennaway and my ignorance encourages me to join the dialogue On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 04:29:00PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had problems compiling packages generating pthread error messages. I am running FreeBSD 5.3. with linux support. This time it was firefox based with tar balls -1.0.1 1.0.2. ... You've given us nothing to comment on. Show exactly what you're doing and what problems you encountered. Here is the terminating output -- let meknow if you need any earlier output : --- /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_attr_destroy' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_create' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_attr_init' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_exit' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_equal' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_getschedparam' Well, this seems rather like the same problem I was having several weeks back trying to build MySQL from ports on a 4.10 system (with or without enabling Linuxthreads.) That's what induced me to subscribe to -questions, since I would have felt too dumb posting the question to -hackers. It seemed as though the build process was just plain failing to link certain libraries which I could see were there on the command line to cc. At the moment I have no helpful suggestions to offer you. I never got any suggestions other than to try rebuilding libtool 1.5, which I did, and which didn't seem to help. I did confirm that it was not a problem with the port, as I was able to build it just fine on a different 4.x system. The system is not broken or crippled, as I've been able to install the binary package on the system which couldn't build it, and have been running it just fine. I still have not figured out why I can't build this specific app from ports on this one machine. I will be very interested if you get anywhere with this, and if I get anywhere on going back to the problem - which I need to do eventually - I will post a followup. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low bandwidth
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 07:03:26PM +0300, Sergiu - IT wrote: Hi, guys ! I have a small network at home and I noticed something curious... When I try to copy from one computer to another (the transfer is made through the server - without a switch), the bandwidth is very low, about 2Mb/s. Does anyone know why ? Another thing is that the bandwidth from the server or from one of the home computers to the outside LAN is very low too, about 700Kb/s up to 1.5Mb/s. Does anyone know why is that ? Here is what ifconfig shows me : My axiom with regard to Ethernet is Autodetect doesn't. I notice your connected cards are all showing 100/Full duplex. I suspect the other sides of your connections think they have negotiated half duplex. A duplex mismatch on 100BaseT will often end up giving you around 1-3 Mb/s actual throughput after all the packet collisions. Try using ifconfig to fix speeds on *both* ends of each connection to 100/FD, then see what happens to the throughput. The xl and fxp drivers are both very reasonable drivers/cards, so assuming your wiring is solidly connected cat 5, you should get great throughput. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Process tracking
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:51:30PM +0200, John Oxley wrote: Right, when i run top I see perl grazing 50% of my CPU. How do I find out what process actually launched that. Simply running ps with appropriate options (my favorites being -auxww) will let you see the command line and parameters which usually tells you how perl was invoked. If you use the above options, the most CPU intensive task will appear at the top of the list: ps -auxww | head -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: revert to old kernel help ?
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 09:50:52AM -0400, Brent wrote: Hello, im running Freebsd 4.10 , When i first setup this box i re-compiled the kernel for firewalling and such...which worked great ...i then tried to tighten the box down even further...by compileing ICMP_BANDLIM which caused problems for my webserver. Anywho ...is there a way i can tell my Freebsd box when it power cycles to boot the old kernel automatically ? At this point im having to tell it manually to load kernel.old any help is greatly appreciated Your last previous kernel and module set should normally be saved as the file /kernel.old and the directory /modules.old/ on your root file system. If you haven't gone through multiple build cycles, you can do this, or the equivalent steps: # cd / # ln kernel kernel.bad mv kernel.old kernel # mv modules modules.bad mv modules.old modules Then reboot: # shutdown -r now 'Reboot into restored kernel' If you went through multiple build cycles with the new parameters, then you're torqued; you'll need to go through a fresh build cycle with a corrected kernel config. This is why it's a good idea to back up a known good copy of your kernel and modules before you start tinkering. Doesn't hurt to always keep a GENERIC kernel around too. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5 day lockup on Densitron
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 04:30:15AM +0100, RW wrote: On Saturday 07 May 2005 02:00, Clifton Royston wrote: What you describe could conceivably be the result of a special counter or RTC chip running as a watchdog timer with a count-down from boot time, and generating some kind of special interrupt when that countdown reaches 0. Watchdog devices are sometimes set up to require the application software to stroke the timer periodically (reset it in software) with the intent to force a reset of the system (usually a reboot) after such-and-such a period of time if not stroked. Watchdog timeouts are typically a fraction of a minute, a 5 day watchdog timeout is very unlikely. Watchdogs are normally designed to be initialized at boot by the software, and as FreeBSD doesn't know about it... It's a long-shot, but less so than overheating always happening to build up and cause a reset randomly at exactly the same 5 day period of time as somebody suggested. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:49:26PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Kirk Strauser writes: So, how's that working out for you with non-US third-party mirrors that aren't subject to American law in any way? The DMCA cannot be used against them directly, but if their traffic transits through servers or networks in the U.S., you can go after the U.S. providers. It's more complicated than the simple case of notifying the infringing site directly. You are obviously not that familiar with the DMCA. There are specific safe-harbor provisions for ISPs and networks which are merely transiting and/or caching traffic. I have to believe you've never actually implemented any of the strategies and claims you're pontificating about. Of course, the best way to ensure you don't look bad in Google is to try hard to post only intelligent questions and comments to mailing lists - for example, by searching web archives of the mailing list or employing common sense - and to post intelligent answers when you have them. Not acting like a buffoon will go a long way on the Net. Of course that may be just too hard for a few people. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5 day lockup on Densitron
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:58:58AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Richard J. Valenta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At work we had a machine which had in it a 200mhz pentium - the machine was an all-in-one flat panel made by a company named Densitron for industrial use. On one side of it was a the flat/touch panel, and the idea was that it was a complete machine that could be installed into a wall - how cool is that? ... So I restarted it, and logged in as root, ran top - and let it go for a few days. Alsways a lockup, I've now done this a few times and it seems to happen at 5 days, 1 hour and roughly 40 minutes. Without fail, after 5 days I'll come downstairs and find it locked up at 5 days, 1 hour, etc... I'm at a loss as to why, I'm no expert with the crontab, so maybe I'm missing something. But I'm looking for ideas, thanks. This is pretty weird, all right. The time period isn't a round number in any units I can work out, in base 10 or 2. It's probably some kind of coincidence, so try to think of common factors. If this was designed as an industrial PC, intended to run specialized software, it may have some specialized hardware. What you describe could conceivably be the result of a special counter or RTC chip running as a watchdog timer with a count-down from boot time, and generating some kind of special interrupt when that countdown reaches 0. Watchdog devices are sometimes set up to require the application software to stroke the timer periodically (reset it in software) with the intent to force a reset of the system (usually a reboot) after such-and-such a period of time if not stroked. Sometimes they're even tied to the system hardware reset line; the idea is to prevent a software lockup from taking the system down indefinitely, though you're seeing the reverse effect. This is all speculation, and it might sound like the idea is completely wacky, but I have worked on hardware with watchdogs, though it's been a long time and it wasn't PC hardware. If this is the case (a big if) you'd need to know exactly what the hardware is, and what it's set up to do on countdown, before you can begin figuring out how to fix it. Here are a couple off-the-cuff ideas. One possible way to check for a watchdog - boot it off of something else, e.g. a DOS disk such as a Win 98 startup disk, then leave it sitting at the command prompt for 5 days etc. and see if it stops responding, reboots or does something else weird. It won't prove anything if it doesn't - memory usage and interrupt setup will be very different in that scenario - but it might point you in some interesting direction. Also, scour the BIOS menu settings (I assume it has a BIOS?) for anything that sounds like it might relate. I'm not sure what else to tell you, other than to check with the manufacturer if possible. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running out of memory
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:08:00PM -0500, Jacob S wrote: This server's hosting about 250 websites - the majority being poorly written php, and incoming e-mail for those domains. It has cPanel installed, so incoming e-mail goes through exim, spamassassin and clamav, but outgoing uses qmail and qmqp to let another server do the hard(er) delivery work. If you aren't limiting queue concurrency to a fairly modest value, I would suspect SpamAssassin is consuming most of the RAM. (And CPU.) SA is a pig. I would hate it if it didn't do such a useful job. :-) -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap space
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:32:54PM +0200, Chris Knipe wrote: Simple question really... Can you ever have to much swap space? Only if there are better things you can do with that disk (or money.) In this case, RAM might be a better priority, see below. We're sitting with quite a nifty P4 System with 1GB Ram. We will more than likely add another 2 or 3GB in the month to come as our applications (mainly perl) are consuming vast amounts of memory and swap. You might want to look at your application architecture as to why you are using all that virtual memory and whether you could change something so as not to be using so much at once. We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not know accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are going to be (especially not that it would be this high). Obviously reinstalling the entire OS / Applications is not really a option. We may want to install a dedicated 40GB just for swap... Would this be advisable, or will it actually slow the system down? And to what extend? Having lots of swap space shouldn't slow a system down. However, *using* it will. If your applications are hitting the swap any more than occasionally under peak load, you should assume that your system is running a good order of magnitude slower than it needs to (i.e. at least a factor of 10.) A traditional rule of thumb is to have 1x - 2x the total RAM size in swap space. This assures that you can do a crash dump and that you can deal with peak load of 2x the normal maximum number of processes by swapping them out. Beyond that, you are probably better off with the system just refusing to fork more processes or allocate them memory. Sometimes unbounded swap usage reflects the system falling off a cliff as the result of an inbound transaction request rate which exceeds the transaction service rate. If the outstanding transactions build up to the point that the system starts to swap a little bit, then the system performance drops dramatically as the system needs to page data out/in to run some processes. This causes the transaction service rate to drop sharply (e.g. by an order of magnitude as I mentioned above.) As a direct result the number of outstanding processes shoots up and the VM and swap usage goes through the roof. If this is the scenario, you should definitely add more RAM before worrying about adding more swap. The swap won't hurt, but the RAM is what will actually benefit your system. (Depending on your application, software changes may have the most benefit of all.) There's my free advice, worth every penny. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap space
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:02:11PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or more. However, is this required and why? It's needed if you want to be able to collect a crash dump if the system panics. I have a dual opteron system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has 4GB RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when it is, just in small amounts. That's as it should be! Why is this a problem? (If it ever needs the 2gb of swap I am in trouble as the load at that time would be sky high and the machine not really responsive anyway) Yes indeed, you do not want to be running your system with full swap. You want it only for emergencies. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unary operator expected
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:13:47PM -0600, Chris Burchell wrote:
I'm working with a script written for Linux that has the following
lines:
# Check that networking is up.
[ ${NETWORKING} = no ] exit 0
I don't think it's a Linux/BSD issue. This line won't work in sh if
NETWORKING is unset. Then you get (after parameter expansion)
[ = no ] exit 0
which fails the syntax check.
I suspect NETWORKING always happened to be set in the Linux
environment you were running it under, or perhaps you were using a
different shell.
Can anyone help with suggestions or an alternate statement that will
work on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE?
One time-honored idiom is:
[ X${NETWORKING} = Xno ] exit 0
or you can just make sure that NETWORKING always gets set to some
value.
-- Clifton
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Mailorder vendors (was Re: Does FreeBSD work with SB Live and GeForce?)
Also, if anybody knows of a good online store, please let me know. I found a website called tigerdirect.com. Am I tossing the dice? anybody dealt with this place? TigerDirect has been around for at least 12 years, and has offered poor value, often shoddy parts, and (I've heard) consistently bad service during the entire period I've had contact with them. They make up for it by heavy direct mail advertising. I would not consider them, personally. Emachines offer surprisingly good value in my experience. Early on they had a rep for using cheap parts, but when I've checked out more recent models in the last few years, I have found them to be choosing very similar components to what I would use to build an inexpensive but reliable desktop system. Alienware is a build-to-order company that caters especially to gamers (high-speed oriented) but has lower-end systems too. They have a pretty good rep for quality, but I doubt they'll have any idea what works with BSD. If you want a built-to-order system that is verified to work with *BSD operating systems, allow me to recommend ASA Computers. I've bought server hardware from them off and on for the last 10 years; they cater to BSD and Linux users especially, are very value-oriented, and have great service. They do have desktop/workstation offerings as well as servers. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qpopper SSL TLS problem
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 11:25:51AM +0200, Dominik Epple wrote: BSD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know any other POP server that supports SSL / TLS ? University of Washington IMAP Daemon comes with a pop daemon that supports SSL. There are certainly others, but this one I use myself. Courier-IMAP does (despite the name, it's both IMAP and POP) but it requires maildir format. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: longest uptime
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 04:49:33AM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Joshua Tinnin writes: An long-unpatched FreeBSD install on a DMZ server makes me a bit more edgy than knowing the uptime will reset to zero when it's rebooted after updating. Is FreeBSD so insecure that it must be patched every few days? No. Are FreeBSD security issues released more than once a year? Yes. I hardly ever see FreeBSD security issues on Bugtraq, and the ones I see often have nothing to do with Net attacks. A properly configured FreeBSD server with no local logins should be quite secure. Do some FreeBSD security issues require local logins for exploit? Yes. Do all of them? No. Are some of them remotely attackable? Yes. Does it depend what services you're running? Often. Are there some remotely attackable security issues which don't depend on specific services you're running, or involve always-running services? Sometimes. Can you get away without patching and rebooting FreeBSD for every security update? Usually for long periods of time, depending on what you're running. Is it a good idea to patch anyway? Yes. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is ata2 ?
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 07:48:00AM -0700, Rob wrote: OK, I have opened the box and had a look at this ISA card. It's indeed a sound card, Creative SB16/SB32. But it also has one IDE Interface connector, which apparently is the ata2 device. Wow, this *is* an old machine! So, I thought, let's see how I get this ata2 to work. I disconnected the CDrom cable from the motherboard's IDE, and connected it to this soundcard. Nothing there at bootup; no mentioning of any CDrom in the kernel messages. (To be sure, I reconnected the cable the other way round to the card; same result). Does this ISA/IDE require some other additional tweaks to become operational? The OS is 5-Stable. I never tried running it under any BSD. ISTR that it was a very messed-up IDE interface which only worked with Creative's brand CD-ROMs. I saw a bunch of these back in the day as they were marketed as upgrade kits when CD-ROMs were just hitting mass-market computers, and lots of people wanted to add CD-ROMs and sound to their old computers so they could play games. A soundcard with extra IDE + a CD-ROM got them there, barely. Eventually I would like to achieve this: I have another, very old, PC with following configuration: IDE/0 (on motherboard) master and slave harddisks IDE/1 (on motherboard) -broken- I like to use this soundcard/IDE controller for adding a CDrom to this very old PC. The OS of this PC is 4-Stable. I don't think it'll work for that - too bastardized. I don't know what they did but they might have changed the pinout or something so that it was only compatible with Creative CD-ROMs. In the best case, if you got it to work, it would be deathly slow. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is ata2 ?
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 07:31:01PM -0700, Rob wrote: --- Clifton Royston wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 07:48:00AM -0700, Rob wrote: Eventually I would like to achieve this: I have another, very old, PC with following configuration: IDE/0 (on motherboard) master and slave HDs IDE/1 (on motherboard) -broken- I like to use this soundcard/IDE controller for adding a CDrom to this very old PC. The OS of this PC is 4-Stable. I don't think it'll work for that - too bastardized. I don't know what they did but they might have changed the pinout or something so that it was only compatible with Creative CD-ROMs. In the best case, if you got it to work, it would be deathly slow. Too bad, as the soundcard itself seems to be recognized properly by 5-Stable: You could always try... but as I recall you did, and it didn't work. Maybe worth googling for, but if you've got a working PCI slot, a cheap IDE card should be many times faster. The Creative ISA card was designed in an era when a fast CD-ROM was 2x, not 52x. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help with a swap file
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:18:40PM -0400, Lisa Casey wrote: I think I screwed up. Perhaps someone here can help me. I need more swap space on my FreeBSD 4.6 box. I followed the directions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html for Creating a swapfile for FreeBSD 4.X. The example given in the handbook was for a 64 MG swapfile. I wanted to create a 200 MG swapfile. So for the command in the example that says: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swap0 bs=1024k count=64 I typed instead: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swap0 bs=1024k count=200 I would just about bet you typoed the k and instead typed ... bs=1024 count=200 This would have resulted in a 200Kb file, which is exactly what you've got below. ... When I look at the size of the swap0 file I created in /usr, it is not the 200 MG I thought I was getting: -rw---1 root wheel 204800 Apr 27 15:58 swap0 How can I undo this and redo it? What do I need to do to do it RIGHT this time?? from man swapon on 4.x BUGS There is no way to stop paging and swapping on a device. It is therefore not possible to dismount swap devices which are mounted during system operation. Regrettably, you will need to shutdown your system and reboot it to clear this problem. Assuming you haven't put anything vn-related into your startup or your fstab, it will come up with only the previous swap you had configured. All the steps you followed looked right, so after rebooting if you go through it again, you should be fine. Next time just make sure you really get a 200MB file before you turn it into a vn device. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audit tools?
On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 01:08:55PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote: Erik Trulsson wrote: On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 08:02:39AM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote: What are the tools that I should use to audit an existing FreeBSD installation? Without changing anything, I wish to quickly determine what is installed, i.e., the basic system, ports and packages, and then to compare what is installed to the currently available versions. For ports/packages you can use pkg_info(1) to see what is installed, and pkg_version(1) to compare what is installed to what is in the ports tree. For the base system there is no corresponding way to see what is installed or not. 'uname -a' will show which version of FreeBSD is installed, but after that you will have to check manually to see if all components are installed or not. Erik, Thanks; I was hoping that there were some additional tools that I hadn't found so far. At least you have confirmed that I'm following a reasonable procedure. Jay You can check out the portupdate package, but of course if it's not already installed, it doesn't meet your criteria of without changing anything. BTW, the above discussion is assuming you mean audit in the taking an inventory sense. If you're talking about audit in the security sense, the above doesn't do it, and you need to look at tools like mtree (should be there as built-in), Tripwire (extra package), etc. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: HTTP response handling - date correction in the client?
On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 12:43:48PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: This is OT, I know, but there's gotta be someone on this list that knows the various HTTP specs better than I do. I do know them better than your average bear, at least, but apparently not as well as I thought. I seem to remember reading in a spec, some time ago, details of date correction performed on responses received from a server with a skewed system clock or to account for extended network latency. Well, now I can't find the details of this date correction. RFC 1945 and 2616 don't mention much detail, but I know it was discussed somewhere. I just can't remember where. Unfortunately, my predecessor didn't mention the spec he used in the commentary. In fact, he didn't put any commentary on the subject at all. Any pointers would be appreciated. I have googled, and searched W3C, but the results weren't very helpful. You might try the squid website and/or mailing list archives, as date issues greatly affect cacheability. They have (or used to) a cacheability tester on their website which checks dates. As a last resort, try subscribing and posting your query to that mailing list. I used to be active on it years back but have been doing other stuff more recently. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need help pls asap
On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 06:12:39AM -0700, angelito munez wrote: hi guys.. ok.. this is actually the problem.. the isp give us a public ip.. then it was assigned to the ADSL router.. then at the router, DCHP is enabled... so this means that my freebsd box is inside a private network with ip 172.16.16.2.. router has the private ip 172.16.16.1.. the router itself is doing a NAT because it has a real ip of 62.215.85.228... now what i want to do is to make another private network with the freebsd as their gateway so that i can make some rules for this network.. and this should also act as their firewall.. now i have already configured the 2 network interfaces which is vr1 (172.16.16.2 - for the router's network) and vr0 (192.168.0.1 - for another private network)... ... the problem is i have one host in my private network having an ip of 192.168.0.2 and i can't ping this host.. what is the problem? i dont have any firewall rules to ... Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default172.16.16.1UGSc1 90vr1 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 49lo0 172.16.16/24 link#2 UC 20vr1 172.16.16.100:0f:3d:87:9c:51 UHLW1 12vr1 1200 172.16.16.400:0b:db:95:89:a0 UHLW1 1912vr1 1081 192.168.0 link#1 UC 20vr0 192.168.0.100:11:95:90:c6:b6 UHLW0 18lo0 192.168.0.200:11:5b:2b:24:20 UHLW00vr0 1188 can you help me with this problem? Looks to me like you have the DMZ network (172.16.16.0/24) configured correctly on this machine, but the extra-private network (192.168.0/24) is misconfigured on this machine. To start with, you need to get it to where you can ping each machine from this one, so you're going in the right direction. Try using ifconfig to delete the current config for 192.168.0, then simply ifconfig 192.168.0.1 onto vr0; that should get you to where you can talk onto both networks from this machine. Once that's working, then you can try adding NAT to route from the extra-private network onto the DMZ; when you get that working, it should work end-to-end. (Except for protocols like FTP which require NAT proxies; that may get complicated what with needing to go through 2 in succession.) -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup FreeBSD system
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 04:03:37PM -0700, Joshua Lewis wrote: I have a working FreeBSD system that I love and...(Wow saying out loud I think I may need to seek a professional). Any way I would hate to loose it and was wondering if there is a way to make a duplicate system without weeks of configuration. Kind of like RAID Mirroring for a computer? ... I am probably going to load FreeBSD from scratch. Not hard at all. I can be done in a matter of 20 mins ISTR it takes a bit more time than that to install the base system, but it's not too bad. Here's how I would probably do what you want to do: * Buy the second system with exact duplicate hardware. * Install FreeBSD on it from sysinstall as you said, partitioning the drive the same way as your previous system and newfsing all the partitions. * Shut down both systems to power off, pull the hard drive out of the new system, and mount it temporarily into the working system as a second drive. * Boot it up into FreeBSD, in single-user mode, and mount all the file systems, including mounting all the file systems on the new drive onto temporary mount points. * Use rsync to clone each file system from the working system to the corresponding partition on the new system. (This should go fast if you've already installed the base system, as most files will already be there and be identical.) * Shut it down and remove the new drive. * Reboot the working system as normal. * Restore the drive to the second system, and it should boot up as an exact clone of the working system. Then you'll just need to edit the hostname and IP address in rc.conf (and any application config files that reference them) before you put it onto the network. (Oh, and clean out the logs in /var, as it will have picked up the logs and history of the first system.) * Done. This should get you a system that in every respect but name and IP functions as a clone of your existing one, and it should be pretty fast to do. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome2 over an ssh2 connection
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:01:27AM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:46:10PM -0700, Joshua Lewis wrote: I connect to my FreeBSD system from a PowerBook and was wondering (mostly for fun) if I can run Gnome2 or KDE or something within a Terminal connection on my PowerBook. Yes, but you need an X server for your power book. Apple has a copy of XFree86 available on their website, I'd recomend installing it. Getting OT here, but if you bought a recent version (OS X 10.2 or later) it's on the extra DVD that came with the hardware and OS. I installed X for my daughter's iBook last summer so she could run OpenOffice. It is indeed perfectly feasible to run X apps over the network, that's what it was designed for. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem linking MySQL 4.1.11 via FreeBSD 4.10 ports
-DHAVE_GLIBC2_STYLE_GETHOSTBYNAM E_R -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/pthread/linuxthreads -L/usr/local/lib -l lthread -llgcc_r -lcrypt -lm -DHAVE_GLIBC2_STYLE_GETHOSTBYNAME_R -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/pthread/linuxthreads -L/usr/local/lib -llthread -llgcc_r cc -DDBUG_OFF -DNEWSALT -D__USE_UNIX98 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/ include/pthread/linuxthreads -DNEWSALT -D__USE_UNIX98 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAF E -I/usr/local/include/pthread/linuxthreads -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno- exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_ COUNT=100 -o mysqld sql_lex.o sql_handler.o item.o item_sum.o item_buff.o it em_func.o item_cmpfunc.o item_strfunc.o item_timefunc.o thr_malloc.o item_create .o item_subselect.o item_row.o item_geofunc.o field.o strfunc.o key.o sql_class. o sql_list.o net_serv.o protocol.o sql_state.o lock.o my_lock.o sql_string.o sql _manager.o sql_map.o mysqld.o password.o hash_filo.o hostname.o set_var.o sql_pa rse.o sql_yacc.o sql_base.o table.o sql_select.o sql_insert.o sql_prepare.o sql_ error.o sql_update.o sql_delete.o uniques.o sql_do.o procedure.o item_uniq.o sql _test.o log.o log_event.o init.o derror.o sql_acl.o unireg.o des_key_file.o disc over.o time.o opt_range.o opt_sum.o records.o filesort.o handler.o ha_heap.o ha_ myisam.o ha_myisammrg.o ha_berkeley.o ha_innodb.o ha_isam.o ha_isammrg.o ha_ndbc luster.o sql_db.o sql_table.o sql_rename.o sql_crypt.o sql_load.o mf_iocache.o f ield_conv.o sql_show.o sql_udf.o sql_analyse.o sql_cache.o slave.o sql_repl.o sq l_union.o sql_derived.o client.o sql_client.o mini_client_errors.o pack.o stackt race.o repl_failsafe.o gstream.o spatial.o sql_help.o protocol_cursor.o tztime.o my_time.o ha_example.o ha_archive.o ha_tina.o ha_blackhole.o -DHAVE_GLIBC2_STYL E_GETHOSTBYNAME_R -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/pthread/linuxthreads -DHAV E_GLIBC2_STYLE_GETHOSTBYNAME_R -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/pthread/linux threads -L/usr/ports/databases/mysql41-server/work/mysql-4.1.11/bdb/build_unix -ldb ../innobase/usr/libusr.a ../innobase/srv/libsrv.a ../innobase/dict/libdict. a ../innobase/que/libque.a ../innobase/srv/libsrv.a ../innobase/ibuf/libibuf.a . ./innobase/row/librow.a ../innobase/pars/libpars.a ../innobase/btr/libbtr.a ../i nnobase/trx/libtrx.a ../innobase/read/libread.a ../innobase/usr/libusr.a ../inno base/buf/libbuf.a ../innobase/ibuf/libibuf.a ../innobase/eval/libeval.a ../innob ase/log/liblog.a ../innobase/fsp/libfsp.a ../innobase/fut/libfut.a ../innobase/f il/libfil.a ../innobase/lock/liblock.a ../innobase/mtr/libmtr.a ../innobase/page /libpage.a ../innobase/rem/librem.a ../innobase/thr/libthr.a ../innobase/sync/li bsync.a ../innobase/data/libdata.a ../innobase/mach/libmach.a ../innobase/ha/lib ha.a ../innobase/dyn/libdyn.a ../innobase/mem/libmem.a ../innobase/sync/libsync. a ../innobase/ut/libut.a ../innobase/os/libos.a ../innobase/ut/libut.a ../myisam /libmyisam.a ../myisammrg/libmyisammrg.a ../heap/libheap.a ../vio/libvio.a ../my sys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a ../regex/libregex.a ../strings/libmystrings.a - lz -lwrap -L/usr/local/lib -llthread -llgcc_r -lcrypt -lm -llthread -llgcc_r ../innobase/srv/libsrv.a(srv0srv.o): In function `srv_get_n_threads': srv0srv.o(.text+0x2a1): undefined reference to `mutex_enter_func' srv0srv.o(.text+0x2de): undefined reference to `mutex_exit' ../innobase/srv/libsrv.a(srv0srv.o): In function `srv_get_thread_type': srv0srv.o(.text+0x89a): undefined reference to `mutex_enter_func' srv0srv.o(.text+0x8e0): undefined reference to `mutex_exit' ../innobase/srv/libsrv.a(srv0srv.o): In function `srv_init': srv0srv.o(.text+0x90a): undefined reference to `mem_alloc_func' and then on for page after page of undefined reference errors. I will be happy to provide more detail if helpful; right now I am feeling like I must be an idiot and overlooking something obvious, but can not find the evidence to convict me of that. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem linking MySQL 4.1.11 via FreeBSD 4.10 ports
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 02:02:39PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: When I try to make the current port of the MySQL 4.1 server under FreeBSD 4.10, I get a huge stream of undefined reference errors at the link step for mysqld. More factoids - the same error continues to happen: * After rebuilding libtool 1.5.10 to make sure it's OK, as suggested to me offlist. * After rebuilding the linuxthreads port to make sure the library is OK. * After trying the same with MySQL 4.0 (mysql40-server) to make sure it's not a ports problem specific to 4.1. I started doing a bunch of find ... | xargs grep 'mutex_enter_func' and the like for the undefined symbols, and it appears that at least some of the problematic functions I'm looking at are defined internal to MySQL's libraries, and are intended to be inlined. However clearly they can't be succeeding, or they wouldn't be showing up as external references to the link phase. The function mutex_enter_func and some similar ones, for instance, are defined in files with a .ic extension - C files with heavy inlining of assembler - and they are defined with type UNIV_INLINE. In innobase/include/univ.i this shows up thus: #if (!defined(UNIV_DEBUG) !defined(INSIDE_HA_INNOBASE_CC) !defined(UNIV_MUST_NOT_INLINE)) /* Definition for inline version */ #ifdef __WIN__ #define UNIV_INLINE __inline #else /* config.h contains the right def for 'inline' for the current compiler */ #if (__GNUC__ == 2) #define UNIV_INLINE extern inline #else /* extern inline doesn't work with gcc 3.0.2 */ #define UNIV_INLINE static inline #endif #endif #else /* If we want to compile a noninlined version we use the following macro definitions: */ #define UNIV_NONINL #define UNIV_INLINE #endif /* UNIV_DEBUG */ ... so I can see that gcc 2.95 and gcc 3.3 would be handled quite differently by these conditional defines. I am starting to think this might be a toolchain issue, where the ports have gotten out of sync with what the default build environment is for 4.1. Can anyone please verify for me that the mysql40-server and/or mysql41-server ports actually *do* build under gcc 2.95.4 as installed on a fresh-out-of-box 4.x system? I'd really rather not have to upgrade the compiler toolchain just to build this port. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem linking MySQL 4.1.11 via FreeBSD 4.10 ports
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 05:22:29PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: ... so I can see that gcc 2.95 and gcc 3.3 would be handled quite differently by these conditional defines. I am starting to think this might be a toolchain issue, where the ports have gotten out of sync with what the default build environment is for 4.1. Can anyone please verify for me that the mysql40-server and/or mysql41-server ports actually *do* build under gcc 2.95.4 as installed on a fresh-out-of-box 4.x system? I'd really rather not have to upgrade the compiler toolchain just to build this port. ... Oops, I hate to follow up to myself, but there were a couple rather confusing typos and wording problems in the last few paragraphs. What I meant to say first, is that it seems to me this might be a toolchain problem, in that the ports may not be specifying the *extra* build requirements needed to build them starting from the default build environment for FreeBSD 4.x? ( Not for 4.1!) And last, I meant to say I'd rather not upgrade the compiler unless *necessary* to get MySQL running - I will if I have to. I have seen a number of people post about running MySQL on FreeBSD, though, and I haven't seen any mention that it's now necessary to upgrade GCC first, so I am still puzzled why I seem to be the only one running into this. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide... -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
