Re: OT: rsync on Mac OSX
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.comwrote: Thank you for the detailed description of what resource forks are. One more clue in this mystery is that appending .mov extension to it fixes the problem. That makes some sense, since without the resource fork some MacOS software would have trouble identifying the type of the file. The extension provides that information in another way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: The future of USENET?
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.orgwrote: There are several free public USENET text servers (no binary groups), granted it's nothing like the days when every ISP ran one but there are still several about (eternal-september.com is one of the biggest). There are also a few low cost paid servers (individual.netstands out here). There is also a thriving business in paid for USENET binary service. Even back in the day I used to use public servers, because the ISP-run ones generally had poor uptime and a poor selection of groups. These days I tend not to read USENET groups because of the high amount of spam traffic, and the fact that the remaining posters tend to be interested mostly in continuing their own long-running flame wars while chasing off newbies. Maybe I just value my time more highly these days. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: svn new pkg system
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.grwrote: Having svn-X.0 in the source tree, imported at great expense of time and effort, will provide exactly _zero_ benefits if the underlying format of the repository changes (like subversion likes doing really often). I agree with your other points, but I think it's worth noting that this particular one isn't actually a concern when it comes to retrieving source code. The subversion *client* doesn't have to care about the server's repository format. All SVN 1.x clients work with all SVN 1.x servers; you just may miss out on some advanced features or optimizations if there's a mismatch, since it'll settle on the lowest common denominator. The *working copy* format does change between client versions, but that's easily resolved by checking out a fresh WC. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backups using rsync
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:37 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.netwrote: You can use dump(8) to dump a SU-journaled filesystem; you just cannot create a snapshot. This implies that dump(8) will be run against the live and possibly changing filesystem, which can lead to issues with the consistency of the contents of files thus dumped; but not necessarily with the consistency of the dump itself. Any tool that backs up a live filesystem, such as rsync or tar, will have these issues. Note that this is mainly a problem for things like databases, where the contents of multiple files, or different portions of the same file, have to be in sync. For example, take your typical MySQL database table. You have the actual data, in a .MYD file, and the indexes, in a .MYI file. If your rsync backup hits while a table is being updated, it might get the .MYD file before an update, and the .MYI file after, leaving the table and index inconsistent. Or it might catch the .MYD file *partway* through an update, giving a file that's internally inconsistent. This is likely to give very unexpected results if you load the backup back into the database. Note that even if you take a filesystem snapshot, if you don't halt database updates while you take it, you can still end up with inconsistent files. Snapshots are mostly useful for limiting the downtime in these kinds of scenarios -- instead of taking the DB offline for the whole backup window, you just down it long enough to take the snapshot. In the absence of snapshots, the easiest way is to use whatever backup tools the database offers to make sure a consistent copy exists to be backed up. For example, before you run the backup, run mysqlhotcopy or mysqldump to write-lock the database, make consistent backup copies of all the files, then unlock it. That way, even if the backup of the active database is inconsistent, the copies that were backed up along with it are guaranteed to be consistent. Anything database-like can have this problem; another common example is a Subversion FSFS repository. Backing it up without running svnadmin hotcopy first is asking for corrupt commits when you do a restore. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on Acer C7 Chromebook?
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi lenzi.ser...@gmail.com wrote: A long time ago I swear NEVER ever buy ACER product, the bios is no standard, and they do not care about the clients. It's not meant to be standard. Despite appearances these are not normal laptops. They aren't meant to be PC compatible any more than, say, an iPad is. They're meant to run ChromeOS and play in Google's walled garden. I don't really blame Acer for this; the design does what it's supposed to do. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recommendation instead of portmanager
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello!
I am using portmanager for updating my ports. I love its -p switch. Is
there any similar program with such option? I am asking because portmanager
is gone from ports tree.
-p or --pristineUpdates a port if any dependency in it's
/var/db/pkg/{port name}/+CONTENTS does not
match what is installed. The effect is when
a
port is updated, any port who uses the
updated
port in it's dependency chain, no matter
how
deep, are rebuilt. Normally only ports one
level up are rebuilt.
I think portupgrade --recursive will do what you want.
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Re: VPS FreeBSD Hosting
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: We have had good experience with pair.com and rootbsd.com. Both were used for websites. We never had any problems with either, so I can't report on their problem solving skills, but customer service from both was good for the handful of routine questions we had. I'm using rootbsd.com as well. I run a few low-traffic websites and a couple MUDs off one of their Lambda instances. I've found their customer service to be prompt and helpful on the few occasions when I've had problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:07:44 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Snip ... So how can I run rpd on the freebsd host running the virtualbox server system so I can access the configured vm? I this configuration even possible? I'll give it one last shot. CREATE/RUNNING ACCESSING ! CREATE/RUN guests needs X11 ? NO ! Right. It's *much* easier if you can X forward the GUI, but you can certainly configure everything you need with VBoxManage. Figuring out how to use it is a little tricky, because it's not particularly well documented, but it does work. ACCESSING guests needs X11 ? Depends on the guest. a) Guest = Consele head OS (FBSD, Lunux, etc..) = No need for x11/graphics on the local host or any other remote accessing host. b) Guest = Graphic head OS (windose, any *NIX w/ a graphic interface, Macs, etc..) = Yes, You will need x11 or some form of graphic interface running on the local host or any other remote accessing host. VirtualBox supports using VNC or RDP to see the guest's interface. I've used that feature to run Windows installs on headless servers. (I guess an OS that can run a VNC client counts as a graphic interface, though.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advanced Format Drive ?
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.comwrote: You can then easily use newfs with the -f parameter: newfs -U -f 4096 device This will make sure the proper fragment size will be applied upon formatting the created partitions. OK. Thanks. I am guessing that this is really the one and probably _only_ thing that might really make any significant difference, performance- wise, right? I mean if the partition is improperly aligned, that really only would affect reading and/or writing at the very beginning or at the very end of the partition, right? No, I think it'll affect the whole thing, because every block will be straddling two 4k sectors instead of filling one. Then the drive has to read and rewrite two sectors for every one block you write, instead of just one, slowing things down to half speed. Imagine running across the top of a picket fence...if you start half a fencepost off things are going to be painful. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:16:38 -0400 Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: Yes you can. You are stating a commonly held incorrect belief. You can always request a license from the patient holder. No one, well no one interested in monetary compensation would patient anything unless they were: ⁽¹⁾ Intended to use the patents in such a way that they would directly profit from it ⁽²⁾ Intended to lease the patent rights or outright sell the patent. [3] Want to prevent anyone else from using it to break into their market. Yes, but this comes with a trade-off. Patents are for a LIMITED time. And in exchange for getting that temporary monopoly, you have to publish the details of your invention. The idea was not just to provide a monetary incentive for innovation, but to ensure that those innovations became public knowledge. In the absence of patents, companies tend to resort to trade secrets -- keeping the details of their innovations hidden. This can result in lost technologies when a particular company goes under and takes its trade secrets with it. Now, it's reasonable to argue that in some fields the duration of that limited monopoly is too long, given how quickly technology advances, but that doesn't mean the concept isn't sound. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: It's also debatable if one of today's most prominent use of patents is fair: I tell you! I have patents! You are infringing! I'm not gonna tell you which patents about what, but I'll sue all your users! Of course, if such a claim enters a court, it might be verified or discarded (because it's just a claim, nothing applicable). In order not to risk a lawsuit, it seems that spreading FUD is often the more profitable way of using patents: I told you! I have patents! But if you pay me $$$, maybe I won't sue you and your users. Maybe... but now PAY!!! The companies that do that are generally very large ones like Microsoft. Frankly I'm not sure if you can do much about that kind of behavior; a company of that size and wealth can always find plenty of ways to harass its enemies. Perhaps, to paraphrase Grover Norquist, we need to shrink corporations down until they're small enough that we can drown them in the bathtub. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: And the facts are: Lots of worktime were spent to make new C compiler from scratch and this resulted with thing 5 times larger, working at similar speed and producing similar code to GCC that is already considered bloat. The truth is sad. Starting from fresh and not being able to beat 25-year old bloated gcc is just funny. Another way of looking at it is after 25 years of optimization GCC is unable to beat a new compiler that's had almost none... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Uptime [OT]
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about. If your utility power is very -- common now in places with buried utilities -- a UPS of the non-enterprise variety can actually make reliability *worse*. I've found that standby-type UPSs (like the popular APC BackUPS and SmartUPS units) will drop the load at the slightest power blip once the batteries go bad, while machines connected directly to utility power will often ride out short blips. It's especially insidious on the BackUPS units because the only way to test the battery is to hit the test button and see if the load drops. ;) When I lived in a place that had a power outage once a week, I used a UPS. Now that I live in a place where I get maybe one power outage a *year*, I'm better off without out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Uptime [OT]
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about. If your utility power is very -- common now in places with buried utilities -- a UPS of the non-enterprise variety can actually make reliability *worse*. Err, meant to say if your utility power is very reliable... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Uptime [OT]
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I don't consider the ability to stay up for a few minutes when there's a brief blackout to be the most important function of a good UPS, even though that's kinda the reason the things were invented in the first place. The most important function of such a thing is power conditioning, which eliminates the problems of spikes and brownouts in the supply of power from the utility company even when nothing dramatic enough happens to actually crash a running machine right away. Such variability in power can be bad for both hardware and consistent, stable running of software. Hard to get unless you have several kilobucks to spend on an online type UPS, though. I actually had one I got surplus, several years back, but the constant inverter buzz got old fast in a home environment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:23 AM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Only if they fully follow the spec. This is rather unlikely. Even today, there are still many broken DMI/SMBIOS tables out there that contain barely enough stuff for Windows to boot successfully. What makes you think UEFI BIOS makers will go all the trouble to implement such a complex spec, if all they have to do is to ensure compliance with MS requirements? I wouldn't count on an option or switch to override this system. Any server manufacturer who chooses to only support MS products is going to find they don't get much business from the academic market. So I suspect this may crop up on some desktop machines and laptops, but most servers will probably allow installing whatever OS you like. And the market will probably reject even desktop machines with this problem quickly, just like it quickly forced manufacturers to add a way to turn off Intel's CPU ID feature when it became a privacy concern. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder?
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org wrote: Hello. 2012/06/14 00:23:25 +0400 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: PV ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both ~150M PV actulally, with a system command? also, 'du' works that way for regular files. But implicitly I wanted about ls's key, thanks a lot guys! Yes, the default for du is the actual disk usage, and du -A gives the apparent size. We run an OpenSolaris filer with on-the-fly compression, and I've occasionally had people express confusion after copying a large text file to it and finding the copy to be smaller than the original when viewed with 'du'. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a huge service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have little or no correlation to their ability to do the job. Keep in mind in today's job market, and given Internet methods of advertising positions, the problem isn't in finding qualified people -- the problem is in whittling down the couple thousand or so resumes you get to a manageable pile. You can afford to reject some qualified applicants in that process because there are always more looking. Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile. Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who already have a position and are looking to change jobs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Thanks for that article, it's really sad. One of the main problems is (in my opinion) that GENERIC SKILLS aren't recognozed with the big importane they have. This applies to hiring as well as education. When they read a job application, HR people seem to basically do keyword matching. They don't know or care about generic skills. If the posting says 'Microsoft Word experience' the words 'Microsoft Word' better appear somewhere in the resume. Likewise, if they want experience with a particular programming language, you'd better have experience with THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE...never mind if you already know five and can pick up another in a week's time. Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and test for. People want quantifiable, objective things to weed out applicants. This is also why credit scoring has become so popular -- sure, someone's credit score may not tell whether they'd be a good employee or not, but it's a convenient, objective way to throw out a bunch of resumes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how often to update ports?
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Aleksandr Miroslav alexmiros...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've gleaned from this list and other BSD mailing lists that I'm on, is that some people don't update their port-installed packages nearly as frequently (security patches/updates aside). Some people go for months/years without doing so. So I'm curious, how often do you keep your ports update, and what are the reasons for doing so? I may be more lax than most. I update ports when one of three things happens: 1. I upgrade to a new FreeBSD release. 2. portaudit flags a security problem. 3. I need some feature that's only in a newer version. I don't do a gratuitous update just because a new version is out; I like to avoid disturbing things that are working, basically. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Editor With NO Shell Access?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec requirements in this regard. I vaguely recall that pico can be configured to work this way. Check out /usr/ports/editors/pico-alpine. Sorry I can't give much more help; it's been a very long time since I worked with that particular editor. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM, David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: You have just now declared complete indifference to and alienated about 99% of the potential user base and their needs, those who could care less about compiling source and messing with compiler options. Maybe FreeBSD isn't right for them. It's not meant to be all things to all people. It may be that a different OS would fill your needs better. If so, you should use it! If you're determined to run some kind of BSD UNIX, you should investigate PC-BSD, which is meant to be easier to install and maintain for non-technical users. For someone who claims to have given up on FreeBSD, you certainly seem to have a lot of time to argue about it. Why the anger? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote: Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address harvesting bots won't get anything usable. Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info, you have to re-type it manually. I really don't recommend that. Keep in mind not everyone can use the Mk1 eyeball. Websites need to be accessible to blind people using screen reader software, too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: One or Four?
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: it will not even boot if there is only a single slice with root and the rest on it if the background fsck cannot be run. I have to go to real remote locations once in a while where an USP is not of real help anymore as the USP is not able to charge its battery before the next power failure comes. It happened there some times that the /usr slice needs a foreground check. Of course, all can be fixed. I cannot imagine that this would still work if / is on the same slice as the rest of the data. Why not? / gets mounted read-only, foreground fsck is run on /, system boots... Maybe I'm just not understanding the problem here. I suppose in theory your root filesystem could be so corrupt that it won't even mount read-only, but I've never actually seen that happen except in the case of an outright disk failure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: One or Four?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org wrote: Why not add a selection to the installer, something like this: Partition scheme [ ] all in one + swap Create one partition containing all subtrees plus one swap partition. [ ] separate partitioning + swap Create /, /var, /tmp and /usr (including home) partitions plus one swap partition. [ ] user-defined Make your own partitioning selection manually. Of course, the default SIZES for second choice should be reasonable. I like it. This, or something very similar, seems to me like the best way to go. I am not a professional sysadmin, but have been using FreeBSD since 2.2.6. FWIW, I prefer the multi-partition approach for all the reasons already mentioned. I used to...I found it tended to result in more administration load later, though, because the automated installer's (or my own!) guesses for partition size are rarely entirely adequate. Then you end up slapping in another disk, backing up and repartitioning, or maintaining a symlink farm... The default 512 MB root partition was always a particular pain point. It's completely inadequate if you ever try to build a custom kernel and want the option of falling back to the old one. It makes distribution upgrades nearly impossible. Nowadays I tend to either use one big root or just root and home for desktops. (having a separate home directory *is* nice for upgrades, sometimes, but again you gotta guess right...) For servers I will additionally split off /var, to limit the damage if logging runs amok. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fbsd safety of the ports
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:54 PM, mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: Unfortunately, WP isn't exactly a well designed CMS form the untaring standpoint. Most aren't. TWiki is a nightmare to update, basically requiring you to copy your old content to a new install and then hand-merge the new system preference pages with any modifications you've made. After dealing with that repeatedly I decided maybe the less secure WordPress approach had something to recommend it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'rm' Can not delete files
2012/2/7 Ingo Hofmann ingo.hofm...@dont-panic.org: What helps me sometimes is wrapping it up: for i in *; do rm $i; done Won't that just expand the * and result in the same problem? It seems like you've just moved the problem from the rm statement to the for statement. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fbsd safety of the ports
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM, dick d...@nagual.nl wrote: I'm a bit confused. I always believed FreeBSD is a very safe system. That may be true for the core files, but what about ports. On the net I read _never_ to let the webserver be the owner of its files and yet, ports like Drupal or WordPress make the files rwx for the owner (www) as well as the group (www). How does this fit into fbsd's safety policy? Content management systems are a bit of a sticky wicket for security. The reason for not allowing the web server user to own files is so that someone who hacks a web app can't modify the site contents. But the whole reason for running a CMS system is to allow modifying the site contents via a web app. One compromise, used by TWiki and some other systems, is to make the content writable by web processes but the actual code read-only. That's more secure but it requires a lot of manual intervention for updates and configuration changes. You *can* run WordPress this way, and it will be more secure, but you'll lose the automated update functionality as well as most of the web GUI configuration capability. Not necessarily a problem if you have good command line fu, but it can get tedious. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X server and xinit works excellent....almost.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: FreeBSD's users generally are more technically inclined and might be willing to deal with this, but even so, I suspect that most folks would appreciate the system trying to figure out that an AZERTY keyboard layout means French, that JIS means Japanese, that QWERTZ probably indicates German / Swiss / Hungarian, etc. I thought I'd mention that OS X takes an interesting approach to this. When you plug in a keyboard it doesn't recognize, it does a little dance where it tells you to press certain keys (e.g., Press the key to the right of the left Shift key, with a little graphic to help you understand which key it means) and from the results it infers the layout. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DBUS + kvm breaks X server (was: X server and xinit works excellent....almost.)
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Are the keyboard and mouse USB devices? A KVM should not disconnect them on switching, but maybe it does. In my experience, most inexpensive USB KVMs work by disconnecting the keyboard/mouse from one system and reconnecting them to the other. They rely on the OS's USB hotplug support to do the right thing. On Windows systems this is pretty obvious because you hear the ba-DUMP sound effect it makes when it detects a new USB device. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unprintable 8-bit characters
It's worth noting, too, that most of the non-Unicode encoding systems predate the Internet. When computers weren't really talking to each other, there was no real emphasis on interoperability, and every OS tended to come up with their own way of encoding foreign languages. Languages like French, German, and English generally have it easy -- almost everything ended up being Latin1 (aka ISO 8859-1). For other languages it can be much more complicated. There are at least three commonly used encoding systems for Chinese. Unicode is gradually winning, but you'll still find, for example, a lot of Chinese documents in GB2312 and Big5. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zfs file names (inodes) without files (ENOENT)
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Martin von Gagern martin.vgag...@gmx.net wrote: Thought the same, and gave it a try. zpool claims there is no pool of that name. zpool -f doesn't help. Looking at the device nodes, it appears as though OI would only recognize 3 of my 4 HDDs, which seems really strange, given the fact that they're all wired the same way. That is pretty odd. OI's biggest weakness is hardware support, IMHO. The kernel is written by Sun (well, Oracle, now) and they have no interest in supporting hardware they don't sell. Drivers for commodity hardware are often buggy or nonexistent. It reminds me of the early, early days of Linux and BSD, where you'd have to buy and return three SCSI cards before you got one that worked. OI boot process provides too little information for my taste Yeah, it's *quite* terse. The OI text console in general is lacking in refinement; Sun hardware grew frame buffers pretty early, so the assumption was you'd either be running some windowing environment (if you were physically at the system) or you'd be using a serial console (if it's a headless server.) Trying to administer an OI box via the system console tends to be an exercise in frustration. So I'm heading towards Linux now, as no solution to the FreeBSD ZFS problems seems to be forthcoming. Will probably be running some tandem of btrfs and Ext4 for now, until btrfs becomes more mature or space requirements force me to drop one of those file systems. I share your frustrations. I would really like to see btrfs mature. I really want a filesystem with pooled free space and transparent compression, but I've found OI frustrating from a hardware standpoint. I didn't have the problems you did with the FreeBSD ZFS implementation (maybe because I didn't dig into it very far), but I do need NFSv4, and the performance of FreeBSD's NFSv4 server is just too slow for me to consider it a reasonable replacement. So I'm kind of left with no way to get everything I want in one OS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zfs file names (inodes) without files (ENOENT)
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Martin von Gagern martin.vgag...@gmx.net wrote: Makes me wonder whether I'd be better off with either some OpenSolaris descendant (hoping that the problem only lies in the FreeBSD port of ZFS) or with Linux (and either btrfs or some more mature fs). Both of those solutions are guaranteed to contain a different set of bugs. ;) I've looked at both FreeBSD and OpenIndiana, and could give you some thoughts on what I see is their respective strong and weak points, if you're interested. It *would* be interesting to see what OpenIndiana made of that filesystem. You could boot a LiveCD and then import the pool and see if you had the same issue. If nothing else that might let you delete the problematic file entry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: strange behavior of restore(8)
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote: Colleagues, I am trying to restore a UFS2 zero level dump sized about 51G. restore has created 6105 directories and no files at all, and now is waiting forever in the runnable state. I don't have any specific advice here, but if it were me I think my next troubleshooting step would be to attach truss to the restore process after it gets stuck, to try to see exactly what it's doing. That may give you a clue as to why it's taking so long and whether it's actually making any progress. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Turning system accounting data into money
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de wrote: So, systems that do what you want (and customers who want to pay on a per use basis) must be around for quite some time. Yeah, this was the normal way of doing things for many years on large systems, back when a large system was a multiuser UNIX box the size of a refrigerator. For a long time it went away, as computer time got too cheap to meter, so a lot of the accounting tools that exist in UNIX are a bit foreign to modern admins. We're seeing a bit of a resurgence of the pay-for-usage model with services like Amazon EC2. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X on Xterminals but not on console
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El día Wednesday, October 05, 2011 a las 12:10:47PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert escribió: n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com writes: FreeBSD-8.2 with Xorg: Is there a way one can specify that your never have X on the console (just the login: prompt) but still have X on any other X-windows termnal (an KDM login window) and graphical environment Sure. It's all in how you configure KDM. In xdm it's set up in the access file; I wouldn't be surprised if kdm were the same. You have login: on console, login, create a file ~/.xinitrc with the lines: twm xterm and then you just say: startx and X11 will come up; ofc you could remove software or create some dirty xorg.conf file which X11 will not let come up; Couldn't you just remove execute permission for the X server binaries? People using X terminals will only be running X clients, since the server will be their terminal. In fact, i think you only need a server installed at all in this situation for dependency reasons. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [0.5 OT] Looking for recommendation on Unix shell account
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Carlos A. M. dos Santos unixma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For reasons hard to explain I need to set-up a Unix (preferably FreeBSD) shell account that I can access from anywhere. Arbornet and PBS were the first names that came to my mind, but I'm open to other options. I don't mind paying a regular fee for it. Privacy and security are my main concerns. RootBSD.net will rent you your own FreeBSD virtual machine with a static IP, but if you only need a shell that's probably overkill. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.0 bata2 keymap
I don't think not asking the question is the right answer. Asking about the keyboard layout during installation is the right thing to do; working with the wrong one is difficult and not everyone has a standard US keyboard. I think the problem is that the keymap names are kind of obscure, making it hard for users who aren't already familiar with FreeBSD internals to know which one to pick. Many Linux installers ask for a keymap during installation, but they give fairly clear names for the keymaps like US English 105-key, making it easy to pick one that's likely to work. When I installed FreeBSD-9.0-BETA it took me two tries to find a layout that works because it's far from clear what will yield normal behavior. I tried the United States of America Traditional UNIX Workstation one first (traditional! It must be standard, right?) and found I had no working Ctrl key. Eventually I landed on United States of America ISO-8859-1, which worked, but I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect a new user to know what ISO-8859-1 is and whether they have it. Surely we can name these layouts a bit more clearly? I think that would solve most of the problem. I would offer a patch but I'm the wrong person to do it, since they make no sense to me. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: much to my surprise....
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Not my experience. Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, plus it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. I've done it before, but I don't anymore. Partly because it's very hard to provide proper levels of DNS redundancy if you're running your own DNS server. Not that the big players always get it right; I've seen ones that had four authoritative servers that were all on the same subnet. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells j...@speakeasy.net wrote: I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync is good for mirroring one file tree to another. If you want a complete backup system centering around rsync, check out BackupPC. NFS will let you mount one server's files from another, but you'll still need to use something to copy the files over; either rsync or something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also True. Personally, I like dump/restore for disaster-recovery backups on FreeBSD. However, if you frequently need individual file recovery (e.g., Joe User deletes an important file and wants it back) or if you need to back up systems running something other than FreeBSD, BackupPC is hard to beat for disk-to-disk backup. If you're going to tape you might want something like Amanda, instead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KVM switch with FreeBSD-8.2
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:10:48 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Daniel Feenberg wrote: If you are asking, Is there a FreeBSD command to cause the KVM switch to move to the next system? then the answer is I don't know and it would amaze me if there were. There's often a key sequence to advance to the next port or a specific port. That can _sometimes_ be a problem when the KVM switch doesn't properly detect this sequence - or maybe the user has already defined that sequence for some action in X, so X catches the sequence and acts properly. X catching the sequence won't stop the switch from reacting to it -- it's done in hardware in the switch. But of course X may do something undesirable if the switch passes the key combination through. The two most common ones are Ctrl, Alt, Shift (rapidly in sequence) followed by a port number, or Ctrl twice. The latter can be a little too easy to trigger accidentally. The USB switches generally emulate a generic USB keyboard and mouse, so drivers aren't a problem. Sometimes they work by simulating a USB disconnect from the machine they're switching to, though, so you need good keyboard and mouse hotplug support in the OS. Generally these switches don't react well to having anything but a keyboard in the keyboard port and a mouse in the mouse port. If you have a hub built into your keyboard the hub will be useless when you're using one of these switches. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KVM switch with FreeBSD-8.2
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:45 AM, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: The USB switches generally emulate a generic USB keyboard and mouse, so drivers aren't a problem. Sometimes they work by simulating a USB disconnect from the machine they're switching to, though, so you need good keyboard and mouse hotplug support in the OS. Err, clearly I meant simulating a USB disconnect from the machine they're switching FROM. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFSv28+NFSv4 poor file creation performance, sync=disabled has no effect
I'm testing FreeBSD 9.0-BETA with an eye toward eventually using FreeBSD 9.0 to replace some existing OpenSolaris 2008.11 installations. I've found NFS file creation performance (as measured by Bonnie++) is equally slow for both with default settings. However, on OpenSolaris I disable the ZIL to improve file creation performance. This tuning parameter was removed from FreeBSD 9.0; its replacement is supposed to be the per-filesystem flag sync, but setting this flag seems to have no effect. I did recompile the FreeBSD kernel without debugging features before doing the tests, so I don't think this is a case of debugging code slowing things down. Here's the relevant data; these are all from bonnie++'s sequential create benchmark. OpenSolaris 2008.11, default settings: 58/second OpenSolaris 2008.11, with zil_disable=1: 1258/second FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, default settings: 107/second FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, with sync=disabled: 106/second It appears the sync ZFS parameter has no effect in FreeBSD. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way to improve NFS file creation performance now that zil_disable has been removed? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Poll on server attacks
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: There you go! How do you actually know if you've had actual breaches if you don't follow up on the logs and spend actual __hours__ doing that? How do you know your servers are not root-kitted? I had an experience with a Linux server once and it was root-kitted for a long time before we ever noticed. It was only after following up an attack that was reported to us by another party from our server that we actually realized that server was compromised. Rethink how you're doing your monitoring. Scanning incoming packets for attacks is tedious because you capture lots of unsuccessful attacks that you can't really do anything about. You'd be better off watching outgoing packets for unusual activity or responses that indicate a successful attack. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS zfs serveur (hardware question)
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Peter Toth free...@snap.net.nz wrote: There is still a way to increase NFS performance in 9.0 (without a ZIL SSD) by setting zfs property sync=disabled, which will disable synchronous writes - comes with some risks, research it before switching it off. Also, this will only disable sync for the ZFS filesystem not for the whole pool. Thanks, I'll look into that. I do appreciate that ZFS tries to be more careful about sync writes than most filesystems. But I also have users who expect tar xvf to complete in a reasonable amount of time, and having the ZIL enabled reduces file creation performance by a factor of ten. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS zfs serveur (hardware question)
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: As a rule of thumb and for a serious server, I would recommend 1 SSD as dedicated cache and 2 SSD for a mirrored ZIL (you don't want to lose this data). However I think ppl posted about running intro trouble when using both ZIL and cache disks, so I suggest you only get the ZIL. Definitely get the ZIL device. NFS performance will be almost intolerable without it. It used to be you could work around this, at cost of an increased risk of data loss if the server crashed, by turning off the ZIL; but as of 9.0 this is no longer allowed, so a ZIL device is pretty much mandatory. I'm looking at ways to add one to one of my machines for this reason. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sending a Fax
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote: I read the other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For the last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF and other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its green too. Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the norm. Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. It also seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' offices. These are conservative industries where email (and especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. A lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system, though; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sending a Fax
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: In the past, I've also used the hylafax port with a regular external serial modem, and it worked perfectly. I think the moden was an... Elsa? MicroLink something? Looked like a green toy, but worked very well. I've used it with US Robotics modems, the cheap Sportster consumer ones. I imagine you can pick these up for a pittance now on the used market. What I found was the sending compatibility of the US Robotics modem was really good, but the receive compatibility wasn't quite as good as our Multitech; a few machines had trouble sending to the US Robotics modem. I used it as a send-only modem in our Hylafax system in order to avoid tying up the Multitech. We were a small manufacturing company and when we got a project started it wasn't unusual for our purchasing department to send off three dozen faxes in rapid succession and get faxed replies back for each one. We had incoming DID with each number routed to a different email address. Hylafax handled it really well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Geoff Roberts ge...@apro.com.au wrote: Was this easy to measure, and how did you measure this - dropped packets on the bridge interface? I don't remember. It's been too long since I last tried it. Dropped packets would be a good measure, though, assuming the bridge interface does that kind of accounting. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis nv...@gmx.com wrote: There is no inbuilt reason why a L2 VPN is more easily saturated than a L3 VPN. I disagree slightly. With L2 you have broadcasts and non-routable protocols being sent over the wire. This is fortunately becoming less of an issue than it used to be, but it can (for example) be a problem for certain kinds of Windows networking. I have had severe congestion problems in the past when bridging wired interfaces to wireless. In general I think adding a slow hop that's invisible to clients is asking for trouble, but that's not to say it can't work well in certain environments. The main thing to remember is just because the clients can pretend it's a LAN doesn't mean you can. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rox-fm
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default address and not the other way around as it is here! This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting. See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one side of the argument, and http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side. My advice is to just accept that some mailing list administrators will choose one side of this particular schism, and others will choose the other. Arguing the issue rarely gets anywhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:19 AM, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: you can do this with a combination of openvpn (using tap, not tun) and if_bridge both ends. However I have found it to be flakey and not really worth the effort. Better to go with a routed solution. The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than the LANs they're bridging between. And the VPN link is usually slower if it's over a WAN. The link tends to get saturated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to be an imap Client?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: No humor intended. I have read another post that might also describe why the network is being blacklisted. I firmly believe that a diligent SA (note the word diligent) could attempt to correct this problem. One of the things about working in a university environment is top-level network policies are often set by a separate campus-wide entity; sysadmins working on the department level often have no control over this. So the blacklisting decision may not be something he has the power to change. Also keep in mind that in a lot of university environments network access is uncontrolled. Where I work students can plug into any network jack and have full access. They do make an effort to react to and shut down compromised machines, but I can see why blacklisting IPs that aren't intended to have mail servers on them might seem like a reasonable proactive measure. There are blacklists that attempt to contain all home cable and DSL IP blocks for exactly this reason. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: remaining goal.. .
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: simply that i'm looking for somebody who know how to transfer pfsense from a standalone system to this kit. I would suggest using Diagnostics/Backup/restore on the current system to save a copy of the configuration in a .xml file. Then install pfSense on the new machine by whatever means are available -- I think the current two options are bootable CD-R and bootable USB stick, but there may be others for embedded systems -- I'm not familiar with those. Once pfSense is installed and running, you can use your .xml file to upload the new configuration to it, again via Backup/Restore. Hope this helps. If you need more detailed help I suggest checking out the forums on pfsense.org. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: In the near future I'm probably going to have to implement a web mail system for times when my clients are travelling and don't have access to an IMAP capable client. If Roundcube isn't a decent solution, what is? I kind of like SquirrelMail. It handles threading better than most of the open-source webmail systems, although that's a pretty low bar. ;) To be honest, though, a few months ago I realized that I was primarily using webmail (due to using a lot of different workstations), that spam was getting worse and worse, and that none of my available webmail and spam-filtering options were working as well as the ones that were on my Gmail account. So I switched my personal domain over to a free Google Apps account. I've been pretty pleased with it so far. There's nothing wrong with running a personal email server if that's your thing, but in my case it had long since ceased to be fun and was just one more thing to maintain. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel, that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the car is not started. The fuel indicator is usually to the left and smaller that the tachometer, and it should have E written upon it, then a semicircle, then F. And on a VW, it doesn't say E and F -- it says 0/1 and 1/1. On a lot of the older VWs (and Mercedes cars, as well) it says R and 1/1. The R supposedly stood for reserve. I had a Saab for a while that went from 0 to 1, and the middle of the 0 lit up when fuel was low. User interface inconsistencies between cars are actually quite rampant, as anyone who's ever sat down in a rental car and tried to figure out how to turn on the windshield wipers can attest. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD mirror server on a Debian operating system?
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:46 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: ... the list does not 'mail-back' your e-mail ... i.e. you do not see your own post until someone replies to it. ... unless you go to the subscription page and select the option to be sent your own posts :) ...which likely still won't work on Gmail, because it filters mail-backs by default... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: The problem is it'd have to be someone who's unemployed. ;) Any software company is going to want to patent something that valuable; they'd be failing their shareholders if they didn't. Except a private company. Yeah, but most private software companies are trying to get bought out by one of the big guys, in which case a good patent portfolio is helpful. I remember hearing about one company in the 90s that actually had be acquired by Microsoft as part of their long-term business plan. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: The largest possible paying audience is generally everybody capable of using an open standard. Since we're talking about video, though, it's worth noting that there don't appear to *be* any truly open video compression standards. They're *all* patent-encumbered. Google tried with VP8, but it looks like that may infringe patents as well. (It hasn't been settled in court, so it's hard to be sure, but some competitors are making rumblings about suing over it.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: It's certainly true that video is a bit of a sticky widget with regard to open standards. The moment someone develops something that is verifiably free of patent encumbrances for video and doesn't just *suck*, I expect that either it will achieve escape velocity in mere moments to become the most widely deployed type of video in the world, or the guy who created it will die under mysterious circumstances and his heirs will somehow arrange to dummy up a patent application in his name with the help of whoever's going to buy the patent from those heirs. The problem is it'd have to be someone who's unemployed. ;) Any software company is going to want to patent something that valuable; they'd be failing their shareholders if they didn't. We may just have to wait for the patents to expire on some older but still viable codecs, much like eventually happened with GIF. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apple FreeBSD relationship
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're improving it a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not sure why you're so upset. I think a lot of the hate for CUPS here is NIH syndrome. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
I think now we know the real reason HAL was deprecated -- too many crusty old jokes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Simplest way to deny access to a class C
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: Be careful of automated responses. What if someone spoofs IP's of legit users / customers / whatever and your automated response blocks them? Not good. Fortunately this is a relatively low risk with fail2ban, because to spoof a failed SSH connection you need to spoof a whole three-way TCP handshake.This could happen, but only if the attacker is on the same subnet as the affected customer or can intercept all their traffic for a man-in-the-middle attack. A bigger risk is customers fat-fingering their password repeatedly and locking themselves out. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xdm-options - non-bsd user needs bsd rc.d advice
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: While I found that generic UNIX knowledge was applicable everywhere, Linux knowledge was not, as you could see from file names and locations, procedures, and configuration statements which could not be transferred 1:1 between the systems. I find that's true even going between true UNIX systems, like FreeBSD and Solaris. Maybe it was different back in the SunOS days, but modern Solaris has a lot of very Solaris-specific tools that work in opaque ways; for example, you don't edit links to /etc/init.d anymore, you create an XML service description file and use svcadm to manipulate it in some hidden database. There are still BSD-ish tools in Solaris (and GNU tools, too), but Solaris purists will strongly discourage you from using them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD kernel init slower than linux
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: I think it's because no concerted effort has been put into optimizing the boot time on FreeBSD. I tested a stripped-down kernel on my iBook G4 a while ago and it would boot in a couple of seconds - but that was without any network card, USB support etc. I think that's correct. There was a concerted effort to optimize boot time on Linux once people started to run it on netbooks, where fast booting is a big deal. FreeBSD concentrates mostly on servers, and no one really cares how long it takes a server to boot because you don't boot them very often... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Purchased Binaries
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote: Pretty much I will have the real software on Monday and will need to get it up and going very quickly. I want to use FreeBSD because all the other parts of what he needs I already have running on various FreeBSD servers. Also, I very much like the FreeBSD approach (like to pf) of don't break things that previously worked without workarounds so that production systems are not killed. The only problem I can see -- assuming it runs at all -- is that any tech support contracts for the software will likely assume you're running it under Linux. They may not be happy trying to troubleshoot it under FreeBSD and may want to blame the OS for any problems you encounter. I try to run commercial software on officially supported operating systems just for that reason. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Finish upgrading remote server without physically being there?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote: Another way to do this, but is quite rare, is to log in via serial console. This requires you to configure serial logins to your server (quite easy, but you should test it first) and it requires the data center to somehow make it possible to log in via serial console. That is that part that is quite rare. It's become less rare as more and more servers are coming with IPMI devices. Serial-over-LAN can be tough to set up properly, but once set up it works quite well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to forward old root mails to an external email address?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, but in the good ol' USA it's all about the money. They will not let me do anything like this unless I pay more to upgrade my service. The wierd thing is that once in a blue moon my IP address will change. Then I can send e-mail for a few hours or even days. but soon they will start blocking me saying that I have been identified as a spammer. But for a fee and a monthly reoccurring one at that, they can fix the problem for me. Not like the old days in 1998. I've always had success using the ISP's email smarthost for outgoing mail, to get around that. They sometimes require authentication, though, which can be tricky to configure in some MTAs. I think Comcast requires you to authenticate to their smarthost, for example. Speakeasy (my current ISP) doesn't block ports, but a lot of Internet sites reject mail from IP ranges they identify as DSL or cable modem blocks, so I send through the smarthost anyway. Now, a more difficult problem is that some ISPs block *incoming* port 25, but that's a different discussion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash can not find most of my commands
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Thus, if you *really* want a superuser account with bash as its default shell, you can always use toor for that purpose. I don't much see the point in setting a superuser account to use bash anyway -- or any other account, really -- but the option is there if you must have it. It turns out auto-completion with hinting and command history searching are pretty addictive if you're used to having them. :) Personally, I usually just use sudo, or run bash as my first command after gaining root powers. But it's very interesting to finally find out what toor is for. I'd always wondered. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash can not find most of my commands
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Just do us all a favor; don't write code in bash. Yeah, I try to avoid bash-specific syntax unless it's for one-off scripts. csh suffers the same kinds of problems; I only write csh code under extreme duress, like when forced to maintain the system-wide csh.login script. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best Laptop to buy for Freebsd Without OS?
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Reality: XP purchased with a Toshiba laptop runs native, but fails on virtualbox, on the same laptop. I believe XP is crippled to only run on Toshiba, vbox presents too clean/generic an environment ;-) Sometimes there can be activation issues with OEM versions of Windows XP. They're usually keyed to the manufacturer's BIOS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: I see the advantage, and that it offers higher levels of resiliency and if properly handled should cause no problems. I just hate relying on humans to remember things and follow directions. That's what computers are for. Repairing a failed disk in a ZFS boot pool requires a human to remember to look for directions in an unusual place, and then follow them correctly. That's why I generally prefer to boot off hardware RAID 1 in situations where reliability is critical. There are too many fiddly unknown factors in booting off software RAID. Even if you do everything else right, the BIOS may refuse to look beyond the failed drive and boot off the good one. I save the software RAID for data spindles (which I tend to keep separate from the boot/OS spindles, anyway.) 2-port 3ware cards are relatively inexpensive, and well supported by every OS I've used except Solaris. If you're going for RAID 1 you don't need expensive battery-backed cache. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best Laptop to buy for Freebsd Without OS?
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: I am evaluating to buy a new laptop for using it only with Freebsd. I know in the website mention some options. Thing is that here the most powerful ones (I3, I5 I7) are sold ONLY with Windows installed and that increase the value of the equipment. I want the best option at a nice price (could be Intel or AMD) the ide is to have it as my main machine and when I need Linux or Windows have them there running under VirtualBox. The use will be mainly for web development. Just to play devil's advocate: If you plan to run Windows under VirtualBox, you probably *do* want to order the laptop with Windows pre-installed. The reason is to legally run Windows in VirtualBox, you will need a Windows license, and it's far cheaper to get one bundled with the machine than to buy it later. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and SSD drives
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: Agreed. I posted my short experience of using an SSD as a workstation drive and I'd be interested in hearing the experience of any other users. Problems? Praise? Let's hear it. While not quite a workstation application, in a previous job I helped maintain industrial PCs that booted cut-down Windows 95 installs off of 128 megabyte CompactFlash cards. As SSDs go this was pretty primitive stuff. We had very few problems with this setup. This was just FAT, no special SSD support. I also have a netbook with an SSD I've used heavily for the last three years with no problems. My only complaint about that one is the write performance is rather slow, it being an SSD optimized for power consumption instead of speed. I would be curious to hear stories from people who actually *have* run into SSD failures related to write limitations. I've heard a lot of speculation but no actual anecdotes. I'm sure they're out there; but I also know people are more likely to complain when things go wrong than talk about things going right, so my suspicion is it must be rare. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: system clock running 2h early although ntpd enabled
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de wrote: Since some weeks my local clock runs two hours early. My /etc/localtime is a copy of /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin and I have set both ntpd_enable=YES and ntpd_sync_on_start=YES. ntpd has a sanity check -- if the clock is out by more than 1000 seconds it will give up. So you may have to manually set the clock to something close to correct before ntpd will handle it. Or pass ntpd the -g flag to disable the initial sanity check, if you're sure you trust your clock servers not to do something silly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partial DNS tree
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Bastien Semene bsem...@cyanide-studio.com wrote: Hi everyone, This is not the preferred mailing list to ask this question, but I think people here can easily answer. I've seen in the past that DNS servers can resolve some FQDNs while forwarding (or caching) other resolutions of the same DN. But I can't remember the word qualifying this technology, and had hard time finding this on google. Can someone please point me to the correct direction ? I think the term you're looking for is split-horizon DNS. I second the recommendation to use dnsmasq for this. It's extremely easy to set up. But if you really want to do this with a proper DNS server, such as bind, googling on the above term will probably help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it??
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get grants to do work like that. On the one hand, they obviously know enough about cryptography to make improvements. On the other hand, they can't seem to get a grip on the fact that the code will need to have a license before anyone can grab it and incorporate it. I can't find anywhere on that page where it tells me what terms I am allowed to use those patches under. This seems to be a big problem with academia in general. I almost never see a piece of code associated with a research paper that has a coherent license attached to it. Often there's no license at all. I don't know if this is ignorance or if there are bureaucratic hurdles at work here. It's possible it's the latter, since universities often want to profit off of licensing the research that's done on their sites. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Bahman Kahinpour bahman.li...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian GNU/kFreeBSD as a stable port. What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution? Nah, no more than Nexenta (Solaris kernel + Debian userland) has caused OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana users to migrate away from that distribution. People who like a particular kernel tend to like OS's userland utilities, as well, out of habit if nothing else; the niche for these hybrid distributions is actually pretty small. They're nice if you're comfortable with the Debian userland and packaging utilities but need some feature of another OS's kernel, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Issue upgrading to 7.4, looking for guidance
I ran into a similar issue upgrading from 7.2 to 7.3. Here's the thread where I worked it out; it might be helpful in your case: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218443.html My eventual solution was here, if you don't want to read through the whole thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: I recently was having problems with Firefox crashing, which appear to be related to a requirement for semaphore support for Firefox after the upgrade to the new version of GTK. Anyway, this left me with a 7.4 kernel and a 7.2 world. Which I understand is supposed to work. However, this broke CUPS for printing, and I need to be able to print to pdf. This error is generated if I try to build cups, or when cups tries to load on startup: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ./mantohtml: invalid PT_PHDR From looking around on-line, it looks like somewhere between 7.2 and 7.4 there was an incompatibility that causes this error in a number of places (printing, samba, etc.) So, it looks like I need to upgrade the rest of the way. But I can't get the upgrade to work. I thought this was where to start: # freebsd-update -r 7.4-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. So I ran uname -a to find that this is 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD janet.weif.net 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Jan 20 19:39:15 MST 2011 w...@janet.weif.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JANET i386 so I tried this: # freebsd-update -r 7.4-PRERELEASE upgrade freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.4-PRERELEASE to itself so, um, what do I need to do to address this error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ./mantohtml: invalid PT_PHDR Keith S. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports?
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Hello list, are there any emulators out there that can run the non-x86 versions of FreeBSD on a FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/amd64 host? I'm especially interested in trying FreeBSD/sparc64 port, but I'd also like to test the FreeBSD/powerpc and the FreeBSD/arm ports on an emulator, before seeking real hardware. QEMU claims PowerPC and ARM emulation support, but I don't know if it's good enough to run FreeBSD. PearPC is another PowerPC emulator, but it was mainly targeted at running MacOS and the project appears to have been stagnant since 2005. It depends a bit on what you're trying to determine. If you're looking to test stability or performance, the results you get from an emulator are unlikely to have any real comparison to what you get on real hardware. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth?
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video streams with little to zero wait time. In other words, I could stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause time delay [[AKA congestion]]. After that date there was a steep decline in streaming performance and I went at upgrading my server with a vengeance to see if that fixed things. Upgrading my 700 ports only led to other things breaking. I am wondering if anyone else in North America has a DSL connection and has seen the kind of degradation in performance after doing (something) to their FreeBSD servers. I have around 1Mb down and 864Kb up ... according to the telco. Any ideas will be much appreciated. iftop will tell you how much bandwidth you're actually consuming, to what hosts, and on what ports. This may help you narrow down the problem, if there is in fact something using it up. You may want to try one of the internet speed test sites (e.g., speedtest.net) to see if you're actually getting the bandwidth you think you should be getting. I had a similar problem and quickly found my DSL upstream bandwidth had dropped by a third. After some calls to the service provider I was able to get it resolved. You may also want to see if your streaming video site changed something. The trend is to upgrade to higher-bandwidth streams for the benefit of people who have fast cable modem connections, but it can lead to a lot of buffering delays for us DSL customers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which syslog??? (rsyslog? syslog-ng? or default?)
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:52 PM, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: Ive used syslog-ng for central logging in the past. It support tcp, encryption and logging to a db. To be honest though the most useful feature was that you can expand log files paths to include the date and hostname. This makes backing up of the files far more efficient as you dont have to use newsyslog to rotate them, which is a good thing for backups especially if you use rsync I'm a bit late on this one, I know, but I also use syslog-ng. My favorite feature is the ability to split log files for different hosts into different directories. Very handy for centralized logging. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bot?
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Wilcox kevin.wil...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 January 2011 10:47, Jerry Bell je...@nrdx.com wrote: There could be reasons you aren't seeing a spike, such as you're only looking at traffic processed by the MTA, or it simply doesn't show as a material increase on a graph of traffic on the network interface if the server is busy. Those are good points and to go a little further regarding looking at traffic... To really see what your machine is doing, consider taking a look at the network flows. pfflowd, netflowd, ipaudit and a host of others can get you flow data with mostly minimal overhead. Also, keep in mind that depending on how badly the machine has been compromised, you may not be able to trust the output of utilities running on the machine itself. You may have to resort to capturing its network traffic on another machine for analysis. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Half a Mirror Backup
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jason C. Wells j...@speakeasy.net wrote: Is using one half of a mirror as a backup a good/bad idea? I was thinking of rotating drives on a periodic basis as a back up method. You'd get the backup instantly, but rebuilding the mirror with the incoming drive would take a little time and leave you vulnerable to a small loss of data if a disk failed while the mirror was rebuilding. Besides the problem you mention, you'll have a pretty sizable performance hit while the mirror is being rebuilt. Also, keep in mind that the most likely time for a second drive to fail is during a rebuild, since the rebuild forces a read from every sector. I think I would use rsync or dump instead, although I have to admit the rotating mirror idea is clever. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How can I implement true vps with FreeBSD as a host?
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: Have you checked into Xen specifically and how it works? I think you're where I was at a while ago, and a little investigation will change your mind. FWIW Xen is a hypervisor, and platforms need to be able to run in it, not the other way around. Have a read up on it anyway. What you want I think is something like VirtualBox- comparatively slower, but about the best for what it is. The only other in the same league as VBox is linux-kvm (6:7 between them). It's not entirely true that an OS has to have support for Xen to run under it. It's true for paravirtualized guests. However, if your hardware has VT-x support Xen can do full virtualization. It's not as fast as paravirtualization, but I'm successfully using it on one system to run an unmodified Windows XP installation as a guest OS. What's unique about VirtualBox is it can do full virtualization on old hardware that doesn't have VT-x support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Portmaster general questions and problems
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Those look backwards to me. It's extremely rare for me to upgrade everything that a given port depends on (-R), but common to upgrade a port and everything that depends on it (-r). I've used -R before to correct situations where a freshly built port misbehaves due to some of its dependencies being too old. It's also sometimes handy when there are ABI changes involved, as sometimes happens with things like Perl and PHP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does anybody know a PeerGuardian like app?
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:04 AM, S Mathias smathias1...@yahoo.com wrote: Are there any programs blocking ip, and has frequently updated lists, like the peerguardian on windows? I'm not entirely sure what services you're trying to protect, but I find /usr/ports/security/denyhosts works pretty well as an SSH brute force blocker. It includes the ability to automatically download lists of IPs that other systems have identified as doing SSH scanning. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cpio misunderstanding?
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Joe Kraft jvk-l...@thekrafts.org wrote: OK, now I know what's going on. I just don't know why. The immutable flag was set on all these files, if you clear it cpio will happily copy them to the new directory. Does cpio attempt to preserve flags? Since the error is could not create, I'm wondering if it's trying to set the same flags on the copy of the file and failing to do so. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SEBSD is dead?
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:51 AM, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 December 2010 22:20, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Anyway, SeLinux ain't 100% popular over there I noticed. Maybe it is just a matter of getting used to it. I got tired of reading the posts on it, so haven't figured out if they were substantive or just whiney. The problem with SELinux is it becomes very difficult to configure properly if you don't have a normal, out-of-the-box configuration. For example, I never did figure out how to keep it from blocking an rsync backup. I disabled it after that, because a system I can't back up is pretty useless no matter how secure it is. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org not sure if it will work on all linuxs but this works fine for me on centos in enforcing mode setsebool -P rsync_disable_trans on Yeah, I'd seen that fix, too. As I recall it worked temporarily, then stopped working again, and issuing the command again didn't help for reasons that I couldn't figure out. I also had problems with SELinux breaking execution of external scripts by the SNMP server. I've seen various HOWTOs about how to craft new rules to permit things like this, but many of them seemed to be out of date or referred to tools that don't ship with RedHat. Documentation is thin and the rule syntax is so cryptic it makes sendmail.cf look like LOGO. It was obviously intended to be a no user serviceable parts inside sort of system, but that only works if your setup is completely standard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh interactive session, through intermediate hosts ... problems ...
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Josh Suid joshs...@yahoo.com wrote: First, where on the ssh client command line (see above) can I specify a more liberal timeout value ? Since my interactive session has three or more layers of host between it, the whole thing falls apart if even one link slows down a bit... how can I make my ssh sessions more tolerant to timeouts ? At what point are you seeing timeouts? I've found many home routers time out idle TCP sessions quite quickly, so if it's the first jump, you may find enabling ClientAliveInterval helps. I find a setting of 300 seconds (5 minutes) is frequent enough to keep most routers happy. Second, how can I construct this session with just a single command ? When I try this: ssh u...@host ssh u...@host2 ssh u...@host3 I get this error: # ssh u...@host ssh u...@host2 Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal. Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). Is there a way to build this tunnel with a single command ? (an ssh command, run over an ssh command, run over an ssh command) Normally when you execute a command over SSH it doesn't allocate a pseudo-tty, like it normally will for an interactive session. You might try passing the -t command to force allocation of a ptty. Another option would be to use ssh -L to create a tunnel from one host to another, then running ssh over that tunnel. This would also work with scp. You may run into problems with host keys, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printer recommendations?
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: As a last gasp effort, I gave my LJ4+ a thorough cleaning and replaced the rollers for the output feed in the back. And hey, it seems to be working now! The way it had been sounding, I was sure I'd broken something the last time I replaced the toner cartridge after clearing a paper jam. But maybe I just didn't have the cartridge properly seated... So now I'm looking into ways to adapt it to use a network connection. If you shop around you should be able to find an old JetDirect MIO card that will slot into the back of it. That's the best solution. There's actually a bit of a glut of them so it shouldn't be hard to obtain one. I tried to eBay one a while back and couldn't get a nibble even at $5. Computer surplus places are a good place to look for these cards, although you may have to take the printer that's attached to it. ;) IIRC they were the same from the original LaserJet up through the LJ4. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 + Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB so should install using that instead of floppies. Not true on a very old computer (especially USB) That's why I said the argument, implying that it's something I don't agree with :) I do think we need to be careful to remember that plenty of people don't have modern setups. Also, boot-from-USB is not entirely standardized. In that regard it's sort of in the same position boot-from-CD was in in the 1990s. For example, Intel Macs won't boot from USB unless the drive has a GPT partition table. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printer recommendations?
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks for suggesting the jetdirect cards, guys. I vaguely remembered seeing something like that, but I assumed that if any still existed in operating condition, they were inside a printer and not available for seperate purchase. I think what happens is when something finally kills the printer (like a dead fuser), the card gets pulled as a spare, because it's easy to remove. But the cards practically never fail, so they end up just sitting around. At least that's the way it always happened for me. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SEBSD is dead?
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Anyway, SeLinux ain't 100% popular over there I noticed. Maybe it is just a matter of getting used to it. I got tired of reading the posts on it, so haven't figured out if they were substantive or just whiney. The problem with SELinux is it becomes very difficult to configure properly if you don't have a normal, out-of-the-box configuration. For example, I never did figure out how to keep it from blocking an rsync backup. I disabled it after that, because a system I can't back up is pretty useless no matter how secure it is. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: next question....
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: When sudo'ing, pass 'sudo su -' (same principle applies, but you don't need to to be in wheel to use this command) Is the end result of 'sudo su - ' any different from the simpler command 'sudo -i'? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printer recommendations?
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 20:38:05 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: My old HP Laserjet 4+ is broken and I'm thinking about buying a new printer. In case you have been happy with your 4+, consider getting a used HP office-class laser printer. I can recommend the HP LaserJet 4000 (maybe including a duplexer, very handy). Interfaces are parallel and network - use network if possible. I have a LaserJet 2300n that's also worked out very well. It has about the same footprint as the 4m it replaced, but it's much faster. Good network interface and good Postscript support. The paper trays seem a little flimsy compared to the 4, but I haven't broken one yet. Used office-class equipment, I can't emphasize it enough. The HP Laserjet printers have a good eco-mode standby behaviour, so even energy costs are low Yup. I checked mine with a Kill-A-Watt and found no measurable power draw (less than 1 watt) in standby. After that I stopped bothering to turn it off. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can MS Exchange play nice with the mailing lists?
You might also try sending a message from the exchange server to another email account of yours, so you can examine the headers on the outgoing message for anything strange. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and large harddrives
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: A few people have mentioned labelling the drives. Its a good thing to do, but take it a step further. Before you put the drives in the system, physically label them with something identifiable (colored sticker, number whatever). Then when you create the logical labels with geom, match them up. Makes you life a lot easier when the 'RED' drive fails Also, think about how you label them. If you mark up the drive, the manufacturer may refuse to honor the warranty. (http://consumerist.com/2010/09/write-on-your-hard-drive-kill-the-warranty.html) Best to use something removable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?
One problem I ran into is that the file sharing technologies in FreeBSD have not kept up; I consider NFSv4 a requirement for sanely sharing ZFS over a network, and FreeBSD's NFSv4 server is still under heavy development and not yet production-ready. That may not matter for a backup server, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
