which linux? (not flame bait, thank you)

2003-11-04 Thread DavidB
First I would like to say that FreeBSD rocks, and have been using it for 
 more than a few years.  I like the ports system, I like compiling from 
source so I can get the compile time features I want.  Portupgrade 
really helps with maintaining ports.

My question is this, I would like to have a little exposure to linux and 
am wondering which distro to run, I used redhat back at the same time I 
started with FreeBSD3~ , not sure if I should check them out.

I had in my list of potentials, slackware, debian, and I was wondering 
what was thought of gentoo(I read that this was started by a former? 
freebsd developer)[I hope there is no bad blood there].

I didn't want to go thru a list, installing and playing with several 
different ones, don't have time for that, I still have to upgrade the 
webserver/mailserver/database box and the desktop box to 4.9 [not much 
to that] or wondering if I should just jump into RELENG_5_1 (I like to 
keep my server and desktop running with the same versions, so I can swap 
the desktop in place of the server should the server box fail, call it 
cheap insurance).

So is there any particular distro that stands out to freebsd types, so I 
can check one out, so in a pinch, if I need to setup a linux box for 
some strange reason I could do so.

Not here to start a religious war, I hope people have calmed down on 
that, but just one simple, perhaps, stupid question.

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: hard disk problem

2003-10-27 Thread DavidB
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Valery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I use FreeBSD 4.4 Stable
I faced the following problem.
Here is a part from messages
---
ad2s1e: hard error reading fsbn 32727951 of 16363936-16364175 (ad2s1 bn
32727951; cn 32468 tn 3 sn 18) status=59 error=40
ad2s1e: hard error reading fsbn 32727967 of 16363952-16364175 (ad2s1 bn
32727967; cn 32468 tn 3 sn 34) status=59 error=40


What sort of problem with my hard disk
Is it critical?


It is time to replace the disk.
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Das ist nicht richtig/ that not right!

you probably have a couple bad blocks on the harddrive, which happens 
over time, you need to scan and repair the harddrive.  If the bad blocks 
reappear rather frequently then you know that the disk will fail in the 
near future.

The answer to this is in the mail archive in freebsd-stable please read 
the thread with the subject line ATA failure with 4.6.2  250GB drive?

If you have any further questions then repost.

thanks,
David
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Re: hard disk problem

2003-10-27 Thread DavidB
Hmmm,

Hey, Lowell could you please read the thread I reference and give your 
opinion of the issue about the WD diagnostic tool.

So I was studying what you were talking about bad block remapping, 
dynamic bad block remapping, or western digital's term Auto Defect 
Retirement

I had expected that I disk would when failing to write to a bad area on 
disk and fails to mark it bad and redirect it to somewhere else on the 
disk. But reads I would not have expected the hardware to do anything 
other than give a failure. It seems there is some mechanism to do this 
automatically within the hardware with reads also.  But it seems very 
vague on how and when this is tripped. Most of my reading including one 
thing from someone who works for Maxtor is that the bad block is marked 
bad at the failed read (or succesive failed reads, says the Maxtor guy) 
however doesn't get remapped until the next write, and from my reading, 
seems to be, not until the next write to that particular sector.  So the 
bad block being read would be there until you did something to cause the 
hardware to remap it.  It doesn't seem it is done so it is totally 
hidden from view or seeing issues with bad blocks.

The system seems to be setup in order to catch problems and remap them 
at the earliest time so that the data is not totally unreachable[lost] 
the hardware will try using multiple reads with ECC to read out the 
effected data [from what I have read] and writes it somewhere else.

So again I say that the disk PROBABLY is NOT in for a soon demise.
Running the disk diagnostic tools from the disk manufacturer will remap 
the bad block immeadiately as well as other things, rather than waiting 
until you happen to write to that sector again.

This is my summation of the matter, based on reading various and sundry 
things concerning this with none giving an absolute or concrete 
answer[particularly concerning what happens with data already written to 
disk].

Sincerly,
David
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
DavidB [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


you probably have a couple bad blocks on the harddrive, which happens
over time, you need to scan and repair the harddrive.  If the bad
blocks reappear rather frequently then you know that the disk will
fail in the near future.


Correct.  Assuming the hard disk was built in the 1980s.  If it's more
recent, then it almost certainly does internal bad-block remapping on
its own.  That means that if bad blocks are becoming visible to the
operating system, the disk has hundreds or thousands of bad sectors,
and is on its way to the grave.  

This would be more serious if the errors were occurring on writes
rather than reads, but there has already been data lost, and some of
the data on the disk is known to be corrupted.
If the original poster has a hard disk that predates the 486 chip,
then I apologize for having given a possibly incorrect answer.  
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Re: System Backup help.

2003-10-26 Thread DavidB
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I have been running BSD for a week or so now.  I have everything setup
just right, Webmail, DNS, IMAP, Webserver, etc
I just install a DDS-2 tape drive, I have been reading about using dump
for backing up filesystems.  How can I use dump to backup the entire
drive?  If I try using:
dump 0 -A ad0

it fails.. do I have to run dump on each slice?  I plan on setting up a
chron job that runs every night to do a incremental backup, then a full
backup at the end of the week.
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Have you read the manpage?

dump works by filesystem.
If you not sure what that is then use df it will show you a listing of 
Filesystems and their disk consumption. Or look at your /etc/fstab

this an example of what I use:

/sbin/dump -0au -f /dev/nsa0 /usr

/dev/nsa0 will need to be whatever your device is and if you are going 
to dump more than one thing to the tape in sequence then use the device 
node that is non-rewinding i.e. /dev/sa0 is scsi tape device /dev/nsa0 
is non-rewinding.

you also need to use mt  if you write more than one thing to the tape to 
 position the tape head to where you want to be.  I suggest man mt for 
more info about that

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Re: How does one record audio?

2003-10-26 Thread DavidB
If it use to work under Linux but no longer, are
sure you hardware is ok. Have you ever been able
to play any audio files?  Also, you have to use
mixer to adjust the input level and the recording
source. See man mixer.
Sounds like a hardware or configuration issue.

Also there is a Windows version of the Audacity
which I have used under Win2k it works nicely.
Oh, I guess that begs the question does the same
hardware setup work under windows?? If it does,
then expect it to be a configuration issue with
your sound setup [I have no idea if your sound chip
is support under Freebsd and I haven't used 5.1,
So someone else will have to answer that].
Have you searched the freebsd mail archive of questions,
stable, and current.
also does the device show up in your boot messages?

Sorry but in a rush,

David

RexFelis wrote:
I am using FreeBSD 5.1-p10, and recently I have
need to record spoken sounds.  I have installed
Audacity from ports, as well as KRec, but neither
of these works.  Audacity shows nothing but
silence for the waveforms.  The KMix applet menu
in my taskbar shows the microphone as having no
volume, presumably because there's something not
properly connecting somewhere software-wise.  The
microphone is plugged in.
My motherboard is an Albatron KX400+ Pro, and I
am using its on-board audio, which is a 6-channel
capable Realtek ALC650 chip.  This chip responds
beautifully to the 'device pcm' line being added
to the kernel config file.  It does nothing for
the recording capabilities.  A perusal of the
handbook revealed almost no mention at all about
recording audio, and certainly no mention I could
find about actually doing it.  It did mention
adding 'device csa' for crystal sound cards, and
I thought the chip was a crystal chip, but doing
this has not had any effect.
A google search turns up nothing but a few other
people asking the same question I have:  How do
you manage this?  bsdforums.org has some stuff
about this, but it's only talk that suggests that
others have working audio recording in place;
there is no mention of how to do this.
I have even tried plugging the microphone into
the other possible jack.
I need to record a CD for someone, of me
speaking.  I really don't want to do this under
Windows, and while Audacity under Linux worked
for a short time, it now only produces static. 
Something is obviously broken there.

Does anyone have any ideas how I can get this
working?  Have I left any information out that
might have been useful?  I appreciate your help
on this matter.
Shannon

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