Re: FreeBSD as VM host OS?

2006-12-18 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hello,

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but you could also try 
BOCHS.  It's a little slower, but runs on many platforms.


Cheers,
Lonnie


Garrett Cooper wrote:


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Bill Moran wrote:
 


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My question is whether FreeBSD is a suitable _host_ OS for any virtual
machine environment, preferably with support for SMP, amd64, and guest
OS speed at or close to native hardware speeds.
 


*) jails provide virtual hosting at native speed, but _only_ for FreeBSD
  guests.  i.e., you can't run Linux in a FreeBSD jail
*) qemu works well on FreeBSD in my experience, but there is a considerable
  performance hit.
*) Xen should give you what you want, but I've no information on the
  status of Xen on FreeBSD at this time.

HTH
   



Try qemu. Some people on this list (or maybe other FreeBSD lists--can't
remember :P), have reported success in using qemu as the host VM.

Xen is a royal pain, even though it is fast. I tried setting it up once
under Gentoo and it was trying to load a lot of services at boottime,
pulled in custom (Xen) kernel patched sources, etc. Needless to say, the
Xen patched kernel sources was the show stopper, because one never knows
what in the world the patches may do if installed with other patches.
Moreover, the Xen patches may wreak havoc with userland programs (like
Linux does on occasion), etc.

Just my .02.. qemu has a kernel module, but if you don't feel like
tainting the kernel with an alpha feature, their userland(-only) program
is fairly stable from what I have read.

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Re: xorg on a headless, mouseless, keyboardless box

2006-12-16 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
Alternately you can also run an NX server and NX client or even TightVNC 
to access GDM, KDM, or XDM remotely as well.


Cheers,
Lonnie

Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:


On 12/16/06, Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I need to run X ... or in some way gain access to
the display output on a remote box that has neither
mouse, keyboard, or console.



Can you tell us what you really need?

Try ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] and running gui apps or
even startx there.
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Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?

2006-11-13 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
Greetings All,

I really appreciate all of the feedback and reply posts regaring my
inquiry about Darwin and FreeBSD.

I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I
think is VERY good and have also recently been able to boot up the
OpenDarwin 7.2.1 as well, but never could get the Darwin 8.1 cdrom to
install.

If I follow these messages correctly then it appears that FreeBSD is
just as good as Darwin although I had expected that the inclusion of
the CM kernel integrated with the FreeBSD kernel along with various
other improvements would have made the Darwin software better.

One thing that I can tell at the moment is that the FreeBSD OS seems
to have better support for hardware since Darwin (Apple) if very
specifically targeted to chosen hardware and also they seem to use
these Carbon libraries for getting things to run which I do not kow
where to locate more information on them.

We were looking for a good OS to build from and now know that it will
not be Linux, but on the BSD side of the house as I like what I have
seen in both FreeBSD and also what little I have seen in Darwin.

I would still like to do some more testing to get a better feel for
what Darwin can offer, but the bottom line is that all of these are
directly related to FreeBSD and are stable and fast compared to other
non-FreeBSD related OS's.

Thanks again and have a good day,

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On Mon, November 13, 2006 08:38, David Kelly wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 01:28:16AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


 No, they used it all as the Darwin core.  Then they took Darwin and
  added their own GUI (used to be called Aqua) and that is MacOSX.

 X11 also comes on the MacOS X DVD, but is not installed by default.


 Bear in mind that the MacOS X gui does not translate directly into
 UNIX.  For example, you can load MacOS System 7 files with a
 separate resource and data fork onto MacOSX.  The MacOS X gui
 handles a lot of this kind of stuff.

 I lost you there. So what? The classic Mac file format is more
 advanced than a Unix (or Windows) flat file. The MacOS X Unix view of
 such files is morphed into a directory of files. The GUI turns such
 directories into a single application icon which *can* be opened to
 see what is inside but normally a double-click or open launches the
 app.

 Apple also doesen't use the UNIX security model.  As near as I can
 tell their core security model is an ACL model not a user/group
 model. Once again this is something that's handled elsewhere.


 Don't know how its done underneath but from a shell and ported
 applications it looks exactly the same:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] {767} uname -a Darwin dot-matrix.local 8.8.0 Darwin
 Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8 17:18:57 PDT 2006;
 root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] {768} id uid=503(dkelly) gid=501(dkelly)
 groups=501(dkelly), 81(appserveradm), 79(appserverusr), 80(admin)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] {769} who am i dkelly   ttyp2Nov 13 08:17
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] {770} ls -ld . drwxr-xr-x   33 dkelly  dkelly  1122
 Nov  1 13:30 .
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] {771}

 The biggest problem with MacOS X is that a lot of UNIX software
 that runs on FreeBSD and such, is not ported to MacOSX, and it's
 very difficult to compile on MacOSX.

 Really? Good thing I didn't know compiling was difficult. The other
 day I wanted a MacOS X version of mkisofs. Copied cdrtools from
 /usr/ports/distfiles/ off a FreeBSD machine. Built without a complaint
  in moments. Not terribly thrilled with its default install location
 of /opt/schily/bin/ but at least its easy to remove.


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Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?

2006-11-13 Thread Lonnie Cumberland



David Kelly wrote:


On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:03:20AM -0600, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 


I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I
think is VERY good and have also recently been able to boot up the
OpenDarwin 7.2.1 as well, but never could get the Darwin 8.1 cdrom to
install.
   



If your desire is to purchase a commercially supported server then an
Apple Xserve would be hard to beat. I think you misunderstand the
purpose of Darwin and would be better served with FreeBSD.
 

No, mostly we were just trying to look at the state of current 
OpneSource OS's to try and get a feel for the advantages and 
disadvantages of each type.


Also, not to be brash, but if I am missing the point of Darwin as you 
say, then please help to clarify this for me as it is the fundamental 
reason for this whole thread and I would really like to know what the 
purpose are so that we can make informed judgments on FreeBSD and Darwin..



If I follow these messages correctly then it appears that FreeBSD is
just as good as Darwin although I had expected that the inclusion of
the CM kernel integrated with the FreeBSD kernel along with various
other improvements would have made the Darwin software better.
   



I think you are spending too much time keeping score on minute details
and not enough time on the big picture.
 

Not really trying to keep score but again looking for the strengths and 
weaknesses of FreeBSD vs Darwin



I would still like to do some more testing to get a better feel for
what Darwin can offer, but the bottom line is that all of these are
directly related to FreeBSD and are stable and fast compared to other
non-FreeBSD related OS's.
   



Testing: good idea.
 


This is always a good idea when evaluating technologies I think.


Speed: the slowest machine is one that is down.

Top-posting: Frowned upon among traditional technical communities.
You'll get more out of these communities if you learn how to trim
replies and insert your comments in the appropriate places.
 

thanks for correcting my accepted behavior on the mailing list and I 
will try to improve in future posts.


Thanks and have a good day,

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Developer needed for a project (FreeBSD and Java)

2006-11-13 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
Greetings All,

While we are in the middle of evaluating various project software and
also while I am trying to learn more about FreeBSD as it relates to
our goals, we have come across a need to locate a developer that has
skills with FreeBSD and also Java.

We are working on migrating a project over from Linux to FreeBSd plus
some additional modifications, but need to find some one that we can
offer small contracts to for various amounts of work on the project.

Since we are still very small, the contracts would be in the range of
$250 - $500 for various tasks completed on the project.

If anyone is interested then please get in touch with me so tha twe
can talk more about the possibilities, ok.

Thanks and have a good day,

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Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?

2006-11-06 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to me 
that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but 
unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.


So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the CM micro-kernel, 
combined them, made some improvements and added some additional code and 
then used it all as the MAC OS X core (without the GUI of course)?


With this being said, then does anyone have any experience with the 
stability and performance?


My guess is that if it is really based upon FreeBSD then the performance 
should be pretty good from my readings about FreeBSD compared to other 
operating systems.


Thanks again to everyone,
Cheers,
Lonnie

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Lonnie Cumberland wrote:


Greetings All,

Being a long time Linux user and now looking into moving over to
FreeBSD, I decided to so some research on the web to try and get a
better idea as to the strengths and weaknesses as compared to other
operating systems like Linux (Fedora, Gentoo, etc..), OpenBSD, NetBSD,
and Opensolaris.

From what I have found, FreeBSD seems to be at the very top in almost
every way.

In my Internet travels, I came across a site that has this MAC OS X (
which I guess is called Darwin?) at:

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

and have noticed that they seem to have built the MAC OS X from a core
of FreeBSD 5.x.
Do I read this correctly?
Also, what are the differences between MAC OS X and Darwin?
  

I'm pretty sure that Darwin does not include the MAC gui.  I believe
that the guis
used on Darwin are basically the same as found on *BSD and Linux - KDE,
Gnome, ...



Darwin is the core to the OS; it doesn't contain a GUI, unless installed
from ports. Quartz is the GUI platform for OSX.
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Running Beryl on FreeBSD

2006-11-05 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

I am new to FreeBSD after using various versions (Fedora 5, Gentoo, 
Mandrake) of Linux for many years and from my research seems to suggest 
that FreeBSD is faster, more stable, in general better than Linux or 
Solaris.


I am interested on wanting to know if anyone has been able to get the 
XGL/Beryl running on FreeBSD and if so then is there a Howto that might 
help me as I also have an nVidia Ge Force 5200 graphics card as well.


Thanks and have a good day,

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MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?

2006-11-05 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

Being a long time Linux user and now looking into moving over to 
FreeBSD, I decided to so some research on the web to try and get a 
better idea as to the strengths and weaknesses as compared to other 
operating systems like Linux (Fedora, Gentoo, etc..), OpenBSD, NetBSD, 
and Opensolaris.


From what I have found, FreeBSD seems to be at the very top in almost 
every way.


In my Internet travels, I came across a site that has this MAC OS X ( 
which I guess is called Darwin?) at:


http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

and have noticed that they seem to have built the MAC OS X from a core 
of FreeBSD 5.x. 

Do I read this correctly? 


Also, what are the differences between MAC OS X and Darwin?

The reason that I ask all of this stuff is because if we were going to 
take a distro to start building from as a base for a project that we are 
working on then would it make more sense to take the latest FreeBSD 6.1 
or the MAC OS X (Darwin) as the base since there has been a great amount 
of work on both distros and they are also both BSD based?


I guess that I am still a little confused on some of these things and 
hope that some one can help to answer some of my newbie questions.


Thanks and have a good day,
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starting services?

2005-11-17 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
Greetings All,

 

I hope that you are all doing well today.

 

I have just installed the Samba3 via the packages in the /stand/sysinstall
but am not clear on how to start the daemon.  I have had a lot of experience
with Linux but have not learned a lot about FreeBSD yet and am working on
it.

 

Also, I have been watching the threads on some hackers breaking into
someone's system through PHP and am wondering about how secure FreeBSD
really is compared to various default installs of Linux. Not to start a
comparison battle, but I just wanted to try to find out a little more about
the basic security of FreeBSD as we are looking to use it in a production
service.

 

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Re: Any Default Firewall Installed?

2005-11-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hi All,

I ran the nmap and it shows that some filtering is going on for the IP:

Starting nmap 3.77 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-09 14:45 PST
Interesting ports on cp.peoplesquest.com (207.226.17.186):
PORT   STATESERVICE
22/tcp filtered ssh
23/tcp filtered telnet

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.039 seconds
cp# nmap -sS -P0 -p 22,23 207.226.17.189

Starting nmap 3.77 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-09 14:45 PST
Interesting ports on 207.226.17.189:
PORT   STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open  ssh
23/tcp open  telnet

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 5.037 seconds


So now I need to see about adjusting that filtering in the rules I guess?

Is this some firewall thing in FreeBSD that is running by default?

Thanks
Lonnie

Steve Bertrand wrote:

I have a fresh FreeBSD 4.11 server installed with multiple 
IP's and am wondering if there is some type of default 
firewall running?


The problem is that after logging in, can not telnet to 
either localhost or to one of the IP's, but can telnet to the 
other IP that is assigned to the server.


For this particular project and as needed by some particular 
software that I have installed, I need to be able to telnet 
to all of the IP's and also have SSH installed.


I can only telnet to 1 of the 2 IP's.

How can I fix this?
   



Along with the other suggestions, here's one more (not to fix, but to
test).

If you have another FBSD box kicking around, install nmap on it:

# pkg_add -r nmap
# rehash

...and for each IP address on the affected box, run the following
command:

# nmap -sS -P0 -p 22,23 your.domain.or.ip.com 


# Note that the -P0 is -P(zero)

...actually, you can do this on the machine you *think* the services are
running on, but the truth of the matter may be convaluted due to
possible firewall evasion from going localhost to localhost.

The sockstat trick as someone else mentioned will tell you if the
services are listening (and who, if anyone is connected), and on which
IP. An entry as such: *:23 means the service is listening on all IP's on
the box.

nmap will allow you to see if the ports that correlate with the service
is accessable from outside the box.

If both those are true, then you may have a rules problem somewhere.

HTH,

Steve

 


Thanks,
Lonnie

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upgrade package questions

2005-11-08 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hello All,

Could someone please tell me how to upgrade a package over the web?

What I mean is that i have used /stand/sysinstall configure  
Pachages which allowed me to choose ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org to install a 
package from but now I need to manually upgrade a package Gettext 
0.13.? I think that it was over to Gettext 0.14.?


What would be the command like way to do this?

Thanks,
Lonnie

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ports Samba and Samba3 difference

2005-11-08 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

Thanks for all of your help with the Gettext package update as it seem 
to be updated now.


Can someone please tell me the difference between the Samba and Samba3 
directories in the ports directory?


I want to install a Samba server along with the latest OpenVPN server 
which I had running on my old Linux box. I am interested to see how 
efficient FreeBSD is relative to the Fedora 3 Linux distro that I had 
installed as well while using these packages.


Cheers,
Lonnie

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Any Default Firewall Installed?

2005-11-08 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

I have a fresh FreeBSD 4.11 server installed with multiple IP's and am 
wondering if there is some type of default firewall running?


The problem is that after logging in, can not telnet to either localhost 
or to one of the IP's, but can telnet to the other IP that is assigned 
to the server.


For this particular project and as needed by some particular software 
that I have installed, I need to be able to telnet to all of the IP's 
and also have SSH installed.


I can only telnet to 1 of the 2 IP's.

How can I fix this?

Thanks,
Lonnie

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Adding Packages

2005-11-05 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greeting All,

I want to add a Samba Server from the pkg_add command on my FreeBSD 4.11 
but another specialized application has installed gettext-0.13.1_1 and 
the /stand/sysinstall says that it fails the dependency for gettext.


How can I install a package from a freebsd ftp site and tell it to skip 
this particular dependency?


Additionally, I have also tried to get a local copy of the 4.11 release 
on my new server so I might be able to get the package from there if I 
can figure out how to do the install via the PKG_ commands.


Can someone please give me a simple example of how to do this?

Thanks,
Lonnie

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Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that 
the migration should not be too difficult.


The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog 
down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just 
been to misconfiguration on my part.


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a 
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can 
compile the kernel to support quotas?


The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to 
download them.


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly 
appreciate it.


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

Actually I did read over that information in the handbook but it only 
seems to go into detail on mounting a CDROM and then installing the sources.


It does not tell me how, or where to download the sources over the net 
or if there is some pkg way to get the sources. That is why I have sent 
these messages to the forum for additional help.


Thanks,
Lonnie

Robert Slade wrote:


On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 21:35, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 


Greetings All,

I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that 
the migration should not be too difficult.


The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog 
down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just 
been to misconfiguration on my part.


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a 
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can 
compile the kernel to support quotas?


The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to 
download them.


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly 
appreciate it.


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
   


Lonnie,

It's is the handbook see

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html

It tell you how to install the source at the beginning.

Rob

 


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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Thanks Grigory,

That did the trick

I am starting to get a feel for the layout of the FreeBSD system and it 
looks to ber really clean.


Thanks again,
Lonnie


Grigory O. Ptashko wrote:


Lonnie,

run /stand/sysinstall as root

choose Configure-Distributions-src- choose what sources to install

and sysinstall will ask you what media would you like to use for installation.
You can choose the installation over the net from various servers.

And generally, you have to read chapters number 20 and number 14.14 in the 
handbook to
keep your sources up to date.


 


Greetings All,
   



 


I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that
the migration should not be too difficult.
   



 

The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog

down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just
been to misconfiguration on my part.
   



 


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.
   



 


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can
compile the kernel to support quotas?
   



 

The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to

download them.
   



 


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly
appreciate it.
   



 


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
For a particular project as small web hosting company called 
PeoplesQuest Web Hosting Services we are going to be using a control 
panel  H-Sphere that  needs FreeBSD 4.11 because of  some particular 
Java dependency so I have had that version loaded onto the server so 
that we can migrate over from Linux.


If all goes well, then in the future we will update to the latest stable 
versions of FreeBSD but I am going to be carefully watching how it 
performs in comparison to various Linux versions although I am told that 
FreeBSD is very stable and performs extremely well, and better in many 
cases that Linux, under heavy loads. I would like to know more about the 
benchmarks on this so we will be trying to see what happens.


Cheers,
Lonnie


Giorgos Keramidas wrote:


On 2005-10-31 18:25, Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Thanks Grigory,

That did the trick

I am starting to get a feel for the layout of the FreeBSD system and it 
looks to ber really clean.
   



Cool!  What version of FreeBSD did you install, if I may ask?

Once you get the hang of rebuilding everything from the sources,
it may be a worthwhile things to pursue updating to the latest
security fix version of your release or even to the STABLE
version.  By then you'll know how to build everything, so all it
takes is to learn about CVSup and updating the sources over a
network connection :)

- Giorgos

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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Thanks again,

I look forward to great success with FreeBSD for my projects.

Cheers,
Lonnie


Giorgos Keramidas wrote:


On 2005-10-31 19:57, Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


For a particular project as small web hosting company called
PeoplesQuest Web Hosting Services we are going to be using a
control panel H-Sphere that needs FreeBSD 4.11 because of some
particular Java dependency so I have had that version loaded onto
the server so that we can migrate over from Linux.
   



That definitely makes sense.  If 4.11 is what you need and it works
fine for your project, then it's absolutely fine to keep using that
version.

 


If all goes well, then in the future we will update to the latest
stable versions of FreeBSD but I am going to be carefully watching
how it performs in comparison to various Linux versions although I
am told that FreeBSD is very stable and performs extremely well, and
better in many cases that Linux, under heavy loads.
   



To be realistic, FreeBSD doesn't *always* axceed the performance of a
Linux system.  You can certainly find particular workloads for which
Linux outperforms FreeBSD.  The reverse is also true, of course ;-)

Speaking for myself, after almost 7 years of working with FreeBSD,
it's not just the raw performance that keeps me away from Linux
if I can help it.  Other factors count too.

Not to turn this into a huge advocacy thread, let me just say that
the reasons why someone might prefer FreeBSD over Linux have been
discussed about a billion times on this and other mailing lists
of FreeBSD.  You will most certainly find pointers very easily by
Googling around the *.freebsd.* hierarchy of discussion groups[1]
and searching the mailing list archives[2]:

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
[2] http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group%3A*.freebsd.*

Welcome to the FreeBSD side of the world :)

- Giorgos

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