Re: Having problems with user PPP to private network in 5.4-STABLE
Has there been a change in user-ppp or general networking behaviour between 4.* and 5-STABLE which might explain why I can't talk to a private network's PPP server from a 5.4 machine when I can from a 4.11 machine using the same ppp.conf etc? I can connect and all looks fine WRT routing and ifconfig etc. but I can't even ping the machine at the far enf of the PPP link. I can connect to and use a real ISP, so the modem seems to be fine. I was connecting to this private network from here using this modem and this ppp.config on a 4.8 machine on friday, and can connect now from a 4.11 machine. The only vaguely interesting things about the connection are that I am using a USB-serial adapter to hook up the modem, and that the remote network uses non-routable addresses in 192.168.16.0/24 and hands me 192.168.16.104 as my address. Is something defaulting to blocking communication with non-routable addresses in 5.*? I have added an ipfw rule to log all packets in and out down tun0 and the ping packets seem to go but nothing comes back. So it looks like the problem is at the PPP level or below. Eventually the modem connection jams up, looks like the problem discussed recently on the freebsd-usb list WRT USB-serial converters. However, given that I can dial an ISP and talk to web sites etc. I presume that is not the actual show-stopper. Here are some relevent settings as they appear after I connect, there are other interfaces and routes, but I think they are irrelevent. smurf/~# ifconfig [...] tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 192.168.16.104 -- 192.168.16.7 netmask 0x Opened by PID 3939 [...] smurf/~# netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default82.41.210.1UGS 130778rl1 [...] 192.168.16 192.168.16.7 UGS 00 tun0 192.168.16.7 192.168.16.104 UH 10 tun0 [...] -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shell question
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], mrspock (m) writes: m The problem is that I don't want to use the temporary m file that I used above (stdout, stderr, out), I just m want a filter If you want to rearange the output so that all the errors are after all the non errors, then you are going to need storage of some sort. I think that is logically unavoidable. There may be some kind of shuffle you can do with named pipes or something, but those kind of things have limited storage. Any time your command produces more error output than that space can hold, it will be stopped. Since you are not reading that stream until the main output is finished you'd then have a deadlock. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some kind of intranet update system for FreeBSD?
It builds them all, but instals teh first one on this machine. Would it build all the modules three time, I wonder? Seems to, but who cares? CPU cycles are cheap. I build on the machine which serves as the mail/news/dns/etc server, which is basicly idle all the time (those services just don't take a noticable amount of effort). It does the world and 4 or 5 kernels overnight, and it's only a 500MHz machine with IDE disks etc. ^_^ (O O) \_/@@\ \\~~/ ~~ - RJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *attaching* a file to /usr/bin/mail message
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin J Raven (cjr) writes: cjr Does anyone happen to know how you would *attach* *not readin the cjr contents of, but actually *attach*) a file using /usr/bin/mail? The metamail package includes metasend, a script which will build a MIME message you can then send to bin/mail or sendmail or whatever. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some kind of intranet update system for FreeBSD?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fabian Keil (fk) writes: fk If the kernels are the same, you can use the same build fk on every machine as well. If they aren't it works to set KERNCONF to the whole list on the build machine KENRCONF=Macine1 Macine2 Machine3 It builds them all, but instals teh first one on this machine. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Devil Mascot
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kai Grossjohann (kg) writes: kg Software is written for users, isn't it? From observation I would say that most software is written against users. As for FBSD, I hope it is being written for the enjoyment of those writing it, since that is the best insurance that it will keep being written. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Means of traversing a directory
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gerard Samuel (gs) writes: gs Im running tar(1) to make a tar ball of a directory using the gs --newer-mtime to only get newer files after a specified date. gs Unfortunately, it also creates unwanted empty directories. Have you tried using find? If a relative time is good enough find DIR -type f -mtime -6 if you need to specify a time and date, I think the only way is to use touch to makea file at the right date then use find's -newer test. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], mail25 (m) writes: m There's so much bad-mouthing sendmail! All I can say to that is: R@ $+ + $* @ $* . $: $(virtuser $1 @ $3 $@ $1 $@ $2 $@ +$2 $: @ $) $1 + $2 @ $3 . -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Devil Mascot
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cordula's Web (cw) writes: cw Tux looks cute, but does it stand for (code) bloat? ;-) It's quite simple: BSD: Daemon, evil, 'nuff said. Linux: Penguin, it's never going to fly. Windows: Distorted windowframe, lets crooks in. MSN: Butterfly, a maggot partially disguised by graphic design Apple: Apple, sinful, probbaly contains maggots due to M$ tie up. MacOsX: X, standard mark for `this is wrong'. Java:Coffee, you're gonna have sleepless nights. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the big difference between Linux and Unix??
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Grauwmans Steven (gs) writes: gs If U could please help me, I'm getting confused. Linux is a kernel, ie the bit of the OS which needs to be there, but you should never be aware of in normal use if it works properly. Unix is a trademark. There used to be an OS caled Unix, but it is so long since it's descendents diverged that the name is pretty useless now. If you see it in use it is probably historical, marketing or someone who is confused. It's like looking for a modern human population to label as homo-erectus. So, basicly you are looking at a large number of Unix-like operating systems, some of which use Linux as their kernel, some of which don't. To add another dodgy metaphor, Volkswaggon once created a car called the Golf which was so sucessful that lots of cars now are visibly descendents of that design. Some of them share the same kind of engine. However none of those cars is a golf, and certainly the engine isn't. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charles Swiger (cs) writes:
cs You are correct that one needs to measure the voltage and use the RMS
cs value, or DC series equivalent if you like that phrase, in order to
cs figure out the power consumption accurately, but an {ammeter,
cs amp-meter, DMM} which can deal with AC will do the right thing.
[from the we don't need no stenking test equipment dept.]
When I did this kind of thing a few years ago (trying to get a measure
for things like the washing machine heating water and the kettle etc
as well as PCs) I did it by watching the electricity meter.
The one I had at the time had a big rotating disk with ticks marked on
it counting off load as well as the dials recording larger units
(can't easily see the current one to check this is a normal
feature). I turned off everything I could in the flat, then turned
various things on and counted off ticks per minute.
I assumed that the electricity company was trying to do a reasonably
good job to get as much money as possible without getting caught
cheating, and in any case I was worried about money not the
environment, so whatever they were measuring was the right metric,
even if they were wrong scientifically.
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Re: Leaving a server on all day
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes: jm I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin jm client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of jm power? Turn the monitor off, especially if it is getting old. I have a 19inch from back when they were expensive and it eats power. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation problems
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Brownsea (pb) writes: pb ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting pb ata0: resetting devices .. pb And then it just hangs. This one is getting popular. There is at least one disk controller chipset out there which FBSD 4.X doesn't understand. If you can turn off DMA disk access in the BIOS, you may be able to install. If you really are just trying it to see, try 5.2.1. It's not officially reccomended for production use yet, but it seems perfectly OK, just remember if something acts weirdly that you shouldn't assume it reflects what 5.X will be like when it is nailed down and solid. In a few months from now when you decide it's just what you need for some real use, 5.X may be the reccomended stable version anyway, so you'll have become familair with the right thing. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail daemon(s) recomendation request
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joseph Gleason (jg) writes: jg I'm going to check into postfix and maybe qmail. Haven't played with qmail, but we were handed postfix on some managed linux servers. Years of experience with sendmail made me dread learning another monsterous system. Actually I just went down the config file and did the obvious things and it worked. It even relayed mail under the desired domain name without me having to spend three days living on fermented yak's milk in a hidden lamastary performing weird and unsettling chicken sacrificing ceremonies to the Great Old Ones. The O'Reiley book is comprehensible and the index takes you to the right page. On the whole I feel as if I have slipped into a parallel universe where email is a simple technological matter, not a deep religious mystery. -- Mail me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]_O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.{8,9,10} Install ad0 READ command error
I can't install 4.X on a couple of identical new machines. They both exhibit the same problem, and it's consistant, so it's probably not bad hardware, though perhaps weird hardware. Also, 5.2 does install, but these are to be production machines at a remote location so I'd really rather be running something long in the tooth. I've googled and looked at the FBDS mailing lists and here and have found some similar sounding reports, but no fix. I need to make a decision on these machines for next week, and if I can't bring myself to go with 5.X I may have to try linux, so if anyone can come up with a way forward with 4.X in the next day or two it would be a really Good Thing:-). OK, details: The disk is there, visible and will boot (to DOS in one case, to FBSD 5.2 in the other). I boot from CD and it goes through the normal sequence to boot the install kernel until it looks at the hard disk (copied from a screen on the other end of the room, so excuse typoes/brainoes): ad0 sucess setting WDMA2 on SIS chip Creating disk ad0 ad0 READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 resetting ... ata0 resetting devices And then nothing for as close to forever as I have been prepared to wait. The motherboard is an ASRock KS41 Chipset:SIS 741 + SIS 963L Athalon 2400+ Can't think of anything else relevent. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.{8,9,10} Install ad0 READ command error
The motherboard is an ASRock KS41 Chipset:SIS 741 + SIS 963L Athalon 2400+ HDD model and firmware version would be useful. The HDD is a maxtor 6Y080P0 The BIOS is AMI and identifies itself as K7S41 P1.10. As a matter of interest, I have had a very similar problem on a mini-PC which I had put down to a hardware fault, but maybe there is a new(ish) motherboard chipset out there which 4.X can't cope with but 5.X can? If it is of any relevance/use, 4.5-RELEASE does manage to boot as far as the installer, and locks up on Probing Devices. The only symptom under 5.2 is the disk geometry warning at the start of partitioning which I have recieded in more or less every FBSD installation for the past couple of years. Someone really should rewrite that, since it seems impossible not to get it, and doesn't actually seem to indicate a problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.{8,9,10} Install ad0 READ command error
Did you tried with another HDD ? Does the HDD work on another mobo ? Don't really want to mess with the hardware too much. These are supposed to be identical machines to deliver quickly to a customer as a stop-gap. I'll try with a spare HD this evening, but basicly I just want to get something going on these machines as is as soon as possible, so unless someonone somewhere has a brilliant idea I'll flip a coin between the pain fo Linux and the worry of 5.2. This could be possible due to acpi support in 5.x; but of course it can happen also the other way. Did you tried to boot with acpi disable ? Can I do that from the 4.X install CD? Everything seems to be disabled in the BIOS, not that there is much. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _O_ | ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
