Re: Serial ATA support in FreeBSD

2003-03-17 Thread Soeren Schmidt
It seems Matthew Emmerton wrote:
  Received no responses the first time, so am trying again.
  -
  I am in the process of building a new system and was looking at
  using the new Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA drives.
  Does FreeBSD 4.x, or 5.x support SATA?
  Mark Jacobs
 
 If FreeBSD can detect the SATA controller, then I imagine it would support
 it just fine, since the same command set is used on the software side.

Currently the only (known) support SATA controllers are the Highpoint 15x0
series (they are just old PATA chips with PATA - SATA converters).

 Are you offering to donate a SATA controller / SATA-equipped motherboard to
 Soren to make this a reality? g

That would be nice indeed, I do have Promise's SATA products, but I'm looking
for all other SATA controllers and *especially* SATA disks...

-Søren

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Re: Serial ATA support in FreeBSD

2003-03-17 Thread Soeren Schmidt
It seems Mark Jacobs wrote:
  Currently the only (known) support SATA controllers are the Highpoint 15x0
  series (they are just old PATA chips with PATA - SATA converters).
 
   Are you offering to donate a SATA controller / SATA-equipped motherboard
   to Soren to make this a reality? g
 
  That would be nice indeed, I do have Promise's SATA products, but I'm
  looking for all other SATA controllers and *especially* SATA disks...
 
  -Søren
 
 The motherboard I am looking to get is the Asus NForce2 A7N8X deluxe.
 The SATA connector supported by the SiliconImage SATALINK chipset Sil31122

That is not supported, and most likely wont be until I get one here in
the lab, a PCI card with one would do just fine :)

-Søren

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Re: can't get to ATA133 (Addendum to previous post)

2003-02-28 Thread Soeren Schmidt
It seems Len Conrad wrote:
 
ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
ad6: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
 
 This is because the cblid bit in the disks indicate that the disk doesn't
 see the right cable (or rather the right signals it tests for).
 Since I dont have a dmesg from the system I dont know if there are other
 devices on the cable than the disks, as the most usual culprit here is
 an ATAPI device that doesn't like UDMA.
 
 So, Soeren Mr Promise Schmidt, any ideas?

Get me the complete dmesg from that system so I have a picture of what
you've got there...

 Do you need more info, experiments?

You could try to install a 5-current system there, that should not
show this problem. 

-Søren

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Re: ATA RAID Suggestions / can't get to ATA133

2003-02-28 Thread Soeren Schmidt
It seems Len Conrad wrote:
 False alert!
 
 On a hint from Soeren Schmidt, we looked at the Promise ATA cables.  The 1U 
 box integrator had reversed the cable,  controller-end to disk, and 
 disk-end to controller.
 
 With great difficulty, due to the cable routing having the middle ATA 
 connector falling right on a too-small feedthrough hole (could explain why 
 the integrator reversed the cable in the first place. it's a reversible 
 flat cable after all!!), we got the cable connected controller-end to 
 controller, and disk-end to disk and dmesg now shows;
 
 ar0: 39083MB ATA SPAN array [4982/255/63] status: READY subdisks:
   0 READY ad4: 39083MB Maxtor 6Y040L0 [79408/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA133
 
 ar1: 39083MB ATA SPAN array [4982/255/63] status: READY subdisks:
   0 READY ad6: 39083MB Maxtor 6Y040L0 [79408/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA133
 
 Thanks Soeren!!

Glad to be of help :) let me know if other problems show up!

-Søren

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Re: can't get to ATA133 (Addendum to previous post)

2003-02-27 Thread Soeren Schmidt
It seems Len Conrad wrote:
 
 There are two things you might want to look at. First it trying to set the
 modes manually after boot. This is not recommended, and I would not do it
 unless on a read only file system, if setting the higher mode fails, or
 fails partially, you might be in for a world of trouble. To do this, you
 can try:
 
 atacontrol mode ata4 udma6 ---
 atacontrol mode ata6 udma6 ---

That wont change anything at all...

 Also, you might want to look at the length of the cables. According to the
 Ultra-ATA (UDMA) standards, an 80-conductor cable must be no longer than
 30cm, or about 12. Cables of longer length begin to build up too much
 noise, even for the double-conductor design to combat. While Promise's BIOS
 and their own drivers (as seen on Windows) might tolerate these noise
 levels, I'm very sure ata(4) will not.

ATA cables for UDMA  2 can be up to 45cm long according to spec.

 I've already thought of that and the guy on site says the Promise cables 
 are 18 inches.

Which is just about right...

-Søren

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Re: can't get to ATA133 (Addendum to previous post)

2003-02-27 Thread Soeren Schmidt
It seems Willie Viljoen wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 11:08, someone, possibly Soeren Schmidt, typed:
   I've already thought of that and the guy on site says the Promise
   cables are 18 inches.
 
  Which is just about right...
 
  -Søren
 
 Strange, I was told 30cm emphatically by our local techie, but Søren did 
 write the driver, so he's probably more correct than my techie. My mistake 
 :)

Well, point him at the ATA specs :)

 Søren, what else could be causing this? On bootup, Len's system complains:
 
  ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
  ad6: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device

This is because the cblid bit in the disks indicate that the disk doesn't
see the right cable (or rather the right signals it tests for).
Since I dont have a dmesg from the system I dont know if there are other
devices on the cable than the disks, as the most usual culprit here is
an ATAPI device that doesn't like UDMA.

-Søren

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