Re: My unqualified host name

2008-09-26 Thread perryh
 If you look for My unqualified host name unknown; sleeping for
 retry you will get a lot of possible answers; some suggesting to
 add your unqualified host name in /etc/hosts.

That line is already in /etc/hosts, both with and without a trailing
period.  I still get the ~3 messages about a minute apart during boot.

The first 4 lines of /etc/hosts look like:

::1localhost
127.0.0.1  localhost
192.168.200.61 foo 
192.168.200.61 foo.
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Re: My unqualified host name

2008-09-25 Thread perryh
 nyana sm-mta[803]: My unqualified host name (nyana) unknown;  
 sleeping for retry
   
... sendmail expects your machine to have working DNS and for
the machine to have a valid FQDN.  Either set that up, or add  
sendmail_enable=NONE to /etc/rc.conf to disable sendmail ...
   
   There is another approach, which is to ignore the message.  After
   something like 3 repetitions, at something like a minute apart,
   it will give up on qualifying its name.  Everything seems to work
   just fine thereafter until the next boot, when the entire
   sequence repeats.

Respectfully, my gut reaction is this is, if not /bad/ practice,
 at least not /good/ practice.  The requirements for geting sendmail
 to behave (at least in this regard) are not particularly onerous;

If sendmail *will not work properly* without a valid FQDN, that alone
is onerous.  See below.

 why not just diagnose and fix the root problem?

because I have no clue how to do it, without adopting settings that
I don't want!

Dunno about the OP, but my FreeBSD machines do not have nor need
valid FQDNs because they sit behind a NAT firewall (and therefore
do not have externally-identifiable IP addresses).  I want hostname
to simply return the unqualified host name (say, foo), not foo.com
nor foo.uucp nor even foo.bogus.  I don't need sendmail to handle
anything but purely local traffic, such as the periodic reports to
root, and it's just fine for it to identify itself simply as foo.
We were able to do things like this back in the days of SunOS 4, so
why should it be difficult to accomplish today?  Indeed, why should
it not be the default mode of operation when hostname returns an
unqualified name?
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Re: My unqualified host name

2008-09-23 Thread perryh
  nyana sm-mta[803]: My unqualified host name (nyana) unknown;  
  sleeping for retry

 ... sendmail expects your machine to have working DNS and for
 the machine to have a valid FQDN.  Either set that up, or add  
 sendmail_enable=NONE to /etc/rc.conf to disable sendmail ...

There is another approach, which is to ignore the message.  After
something like 3 repetitions, at something like a minute apart,
it will give up on qualifying its name.  Everything seems to work
just fine thereafter until the next boot, when the entire sequence
repeats.

This leads to the question of how to get sendmail -- or whatever
-- into the state where it will eventually land after the 3-miunte
delay, without the delay and the messages.  It seems as if this
ought not be all that difficult.
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Re: Realtek 8111C?

2008-09-20 Thread perryh
 ... I thought I'd try copying the driver from 7.1.  The module
 (if_re.ko) appears to load successfully at boot time, however
 the NIC is still not shown in dmesg and unavailable as re0.
 I admit I don't know if this should even work (7.1-compiled
 module on 6.3 kernel) ...

That would indeed not be expected to work.  Even a 7.1 module on
a 7.0 system would be hit-or-miss; across a major revision it's a
wonder it didn't panic.  You could try building the module from
the 7.1 source on 6.3.
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Re: server is crashing constantly

2008-09-13 Thread perryh
Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a new web server [which] is crashing 2-3 times a day ...

 That is what im getting in the /var/log/messages.

 Sep 13 20:09:25 rps savecore: reboot after panic: page fault
 Sep 13 20:09:25 rps savecore: writing core to vmcore.0
...
 Any ideas or recommendations about where to start looking
 to track this down would really be appreciated.

It's likely to be hardware problems (yes, even on a new box).

memtest and/or memtest86, in ports/sysutils.
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Re: Capturing tar output

2008-09-11 Thread perryh
  redirect stderr with 2 operator
 
 Using the following command,
 # /usr/local/gtar/bin/tar -cvf - /home/hallja 2  /var/log/test.txt |
 /usr/local/bin/gpg --encrypt recipient | dd of=/dev/nsa0 obs=128k

 I receive an error meesage stating, Ambiguous output redirect.

Wojtek correctly pointed out that there should be no space between
the 2 and the , but I suspect the primary problem is that 2 is
Bourne/Korn/Bash syntax and your root shell is most probably csh.

Does it work any better if you first start /bin/sh:

# sh

sh will give you another # prompt, and then it should work:

# /usr/local/gtar/bin/tar -cvf - /home/hallja 2 /var/log/test.txt | 
/usr/local/bin/gpg --encrypt recipient | dd of=/dev/nsa0 obs=128k

After it finishes, and sh prompts again:

# ^D

The Ctrl-D will exit from sh, returning to the csh prompt.
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Re: Postfix issue

2008-09-09 Thread perryh
  why are you not using your ISP to relay emails, using its mail
  gateway (which should have a static IP address)?
...
 I do not like the fact that a number of governments (including
 most european ones)  now have the right to access all emails
 that pass through an ISP's server. They do not have the right
 to access private server systems unless they have a warrant. 

This *is* a valid concern, but it's not clear to me how it applies
to messages that are being sent to public mailing lists where they
will be as available to Big Brother as to anyone else.  How about
configuring your MTA to send anything going to a public list via
your ISP, and send directly only messages that aren't going to be
posted for the world to see?

 Another emerging issue is cable operators refusing to allow
 fixed IP address so they can receive revenue from reporting
 on user usage data.

I seriously doubt that as a motivation.  If anything, static IP
assignments would make it *easier* to track per-customer usage.

A more likely reason is that most residential users, even on
cable or DSL, do not keep their router (or system, if they have
only one and therefore don't use a router) on-line anywhere
near 24-7.  The ISP can serve several customers per IP address
by using DHCP (so that customers occupy IP addresses only when
on-line).
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Re: rss-glx screen saver compilation fails?

2008-09-09 Thread perryh
 spirographx.o(.text+0x30f): In function `getAll':
 : undefined reference to `sincosf'

Per Google, it's a gnu-ism: http://linux.die.net/man/3/sincosf

void sincosf(float x, float *sin, float *cos);

Several applications need sine and cosine of the same angle x.
This function computes both at the same time, and stores the
results via the given pointers.

Probably a 10-liner by just calling sin() and cos() separately --
a bit more work to do it properly -- or just grab the gnu code
if you don't need to be BSD-licensed.
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Re: which gray is best for print?

2008-09-06 Thread perryh
 So you're saying that the white on my [monster] CRT is not the
 same as on a future LCD Display?  rats:)

Not only that, but your monster CRT probably doesn't match a smaller
CRT; and an old-ish CRT whose phosphors have aged (and whose focus
may have gotten a bit fuzzy) probably doesn't match a new, sharp
one.  Different LCDs may not match each other either, esp. if they
use different backlight technologies or if some of the backlights
-- or faceplates -- are subject to color shifts with age.

  This is due to the nature that these devices use different color
  spaces (RGB, composed additively, CMY, composed negatively), and
  most of them even aren't calibrated ...

 I took all 5 quarters of physics, like most of us, but never got
 far into optics ...

and there's more involved than physics and optics anyway, e.g. the
neuropsychology of human visual perception.
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE getting terrible throughput using sk0 adapter

2008-08-31 Thread perryh
 Try disabling usb and firewire in BIOS. You may need to have
 a tech there do it for you. Your box has the sk NIC and usb
 sharing an irq. The NIC driver is MPSAFE but the usb stack is
 still under the GIANT lock. Disable usb and the NIC driver
 should perform better.

Alternatively, to avoid involving the provider's tech support,
could the OP get the same effect by building a kernel without USB?
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Re: Formatting dates to a specific pattern

2008-08-30 Thread perryh
  I need to format the current date ... to the pattern
  m-d- ... date(1) seems to always put leading zeros.

 # date +%m-%d-%Y | sed 's/^0//g'
 8-30-2008

Not quite.  That fixes the month, but not the day:

$ echo 02-04-2008 | sed 's/^0//g'
2-04-2008

(The g does nothing, because the ^ can match only at the
beginning of a line.)  This does both:

$ echo 02-04-2008 | sed -e 's/^0//' -e 's/-0*/-/'
2-4-2008
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Re: FreeBSD, Ubuntu and Win XP on one system

2008-08-11 Thread perryh
 I recommend installing FreeBSD first, then Windows and then
 Ubuntu ...

Unless something has changed since the last time I was messing with
this sort of thing, one hazard of installing a Linux last is that
there may by then be no space left for the /boot partition, which
has to be below cylinder 1024 to be accessible by BIOS.  One might
want to allocate what will become /boot as early in the process as
possible.
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Re: Xerox Phaser 6110 printer

2008-08-11 Thread perryh
  Does anybody have a Xerox Phaser 6110 printer working with FreeBSD?

 I've never had any trouble with my 6120, but I guess the crucial
 difference is the PostScript support in the 6120.

The 6130 just works -- it internally supports lpr/lpd, not even
needing CUPS -- but it, too, is PostScript.  I'd be very cautious
about any printer that doesn't support PostScript or at least PCL,
even one from a first-rate supplier like Xerox.
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Re: setting the other end's TCP segment size

2008-08-05 Thread perryh
 1) create a static ARP entry, this will create an entry to
   the routing table i.e. arp -S IPADDR MACADDR
 2) modify the mtu for that destination
   i.e. route change IPADDR -mtu MTU

Seems to work fine :)

One problem with this approach is that a hard-coded MAC address
would break if the destination's MAC address changed :( but this
can be scripted around by pinging the destination (to ensure that
it's up, and get an arp entry the usual way), then reading the
MAC address from the arp table.

d=192.168.200.3
ping -c 1 $d  \
arp -S $d ` arp -n $d | sed -e 's/^.* at //' -e 's/ on .*$//' `  \
route change $d -mtu 640
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Re: setting the other end's TCP segment size

2008-08-03 Thread perryh
   Is there a simple way for a FreeBSD system to cause its
   peer to use a transmit segment size of, say, 640 bytes --
   so that the peer will never try to send a packet larger
   than that?
  
   I'm trying to get around a network packet-size problem. 
   In case it matters, the other end is SunOS 4.1.1 on a
   sun3, and I've been unable to find a way to limit its
   packet size directly.
...
   Each tcp conversation can have it's own size set along
   with a bunch of other params.
 
  Good point.  The TCP_MAXSEG can reduce the maximum segment
  size for a single TCP connection to something smaller than
  the interface MTU :)

That would be OK, provided I could somehow arrange for it to apply
to all conversations with this particular destination (which is
what the next item seems to do :)

 Just adding that MTU can be set per destination with the help
 of route(8) and the -mtu modifier.

That would be better than setting the local mtu -- which has been
causing other problems although it takes care of the original --
and it is a better match to the physical situation.  (The culprit
is neither the Sun nor the FreeBSD system, but the physical link
between the Sun and the hub.)

What I haven't been able to come up with is a way of making such
a setting permanent.  If I've communicated with the Sun recently
enough, netstat -r -W reports a line like this (some spaces
removed, for length, and I've no longer got xl0's mtu set low)

Destination   Gateway   Flags Refs Use  Mtu Netif Expire
192.168.200.3 08:00:20:00:a7:a6 UHLW 1  34 1500   xl0   1184

Now if I do

# route change 192.168.200.3 -lock -mtu 640

the mtu column changes to 640 and it works fine, but only until
the routing entry expires.  Adding -static makes no difference
-- the entry still expires and loses the mtu specification.

I've been unable to come up with a route command that will *create*
an entry like that (vs modifying an existing one), nor that will
transform a transient entry into a permanent one.
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building only part of the world

2008-08-03 Thread perryh
How would I go about building, not the entire world, but only
a small part of it?

If I just cd to the desired subdirectory and type make -n
-- intending to find out what it would try to do -- I get a
warning about not having changed the object directory.

I suppose I'm supposed to type something along the lines of

  make -n OBJ=something

but what should I be setting OBJ to?  An attempt to find(1)
some of the expected output files, so as to discover where
they are conventionally located, found nothing.
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undocumented tar --unlink switch

2008-08-02 Thread perryh
Around line 37 of /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/extract.c
there's an invocation of /usr/bin/tar with a --unlink switch,
which I don't see mentioned in the tar(1) manpage.  Anyone
happen to know what this does, or do I need to dig into the
code?
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Re: setting the other end's TCP segment size

2008-07-31 Thread perryh
 You can edit `/etc/hostname.foo0' in the Sun too, and add
 something like:

 192.168.1.10/24 mtu 640

[getting OT for FreeBSD]

Are you sure that works as far back as SunOS 4.1.1?

/etc/hostname.le0 currently consists of the single word

  pluto

and it looks as if this causes /etc/rc.boot to do

  ifconfig le0 pluto netmask + -trailers up

(where the name pluto resolves to 192.168.200.1 via /etc/hosts).
If I were to change /etc/hostname.le0 to

  pluto mtu 640

I think the ifconfig command would become

  ifconfig le0 pluto mtu 640 netmask + -trailers up

and it doesn't look as if ifconfig recognizes mtu as a keyword
(at least while running -- granted I haven't tried actually
editing /etc/hostname.le0 and rebooting):

  # ifconfig le0 pluto mtu 640
  ifconfig: mtu: bad address
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Re: setting the other end's TCP segment size

2008-07-30 Thread perryh
  Is there a simple way for a FreeBSD system to cause its peer
  to use a transmit segment size of, say, 640 bytes -- so that
  the peer will never try to send a packet larger than that?
 
  I'm trying to get around a network packet-size problem.  In
  case it matters, the other end is SunOS 4.1.1 on a sun3, and
  I've been unable to find a way to limit its packet size
  directly.
 
  Setting the interface MTU should do it, i.e.:
 
  ifconfig re0 mtu 640
 
  Not all interfaces support setting the MTU and some may have
  range restrictions though.

 In particular, this seems to work with my wlan0 interface, but
 not with my re0 interface ...

That's certainly simple enough, and xl0 apparently supports the
reduced mtu setting.  It seems to be working just fine.  Thanks!

I'd thought of trying to set the sun's MTU, but hadn't been able
to find a way to do it.  It had never occurred to me that setting
the *recipient's* MTU would limit the *sender's* packet size.
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setting the other end's TCP segment size

2008-07-29 Thread perryh
 [TCP] splits traffic to 'segments' using its own logic ...

Is there a simple way for a FreeBSD system to cause its peer
to use a transmit segment size of, say, 640 bytes -- so that
the peer will never try to send a packet larger than that?

I'm trying to get around a network packet-size problem.
In case it matters, the other end is SunOS 4.1.1 on a sun3, and
I've been unable to find a way to limit its packet size directly.
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Re: PACKAGESITE

2008-07-13 Thread perryh
 Did you specify the -r flag?  Without that, the PACKAGESITE
 environment variable is note used ...

No, I didn't, because -- unless I am misunderstanding the description
of the -r flag -- that will cause pkg_add to look *only* on the FTP
site.  I want it to use packages that have already been downloaded,
and use the FTP site only when a needed package is not available
locally.  I'm trying to install an already-downloaded 10MB package
which has quite a few dependencies, several of which were already
fetched during a previous attempt.

IOW I want the equivalent of specifying the current directory,
followed by the FTP site, in PKG_PATH; but the colon in the URL
messes that up by looking like a pathname separator. If I tried
something like

setenv PKG_PATH 
.:ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/

it would look first in the current directory, then in a subdirectory
named ftp, and finally in a directory named //ftp.freebsd.org/...
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Re: PACKAGESITE

2008-07-13 Thread perryh
  As far as I know, pkg_add will only fetch dependencies recursively
  from the Internet when used with -r but it will then ignore
  PKG_PATH.  Seems what you are asking cannot be done this way ...
 
  I wonder if portinstall -P (or even -PP) might do what the OP
  wants?

 You are correct, according to the man page, portinstall -PP would
 be his best bet.

Except that portinstall is part of portupgrade, which has its own
boatload of dependencies.  Is there any way to do this with, say,
portmaster?
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Re: PACKAGESITE

2008-07-13 Thread perryh
  ... portinstall is part of portupgrade, which has its own
  boatload of dependencies.

 You must be used to sailing in very small boats.

From lurking on questions@ for a while, I have gotten the impression
that ruby alone would pretty well fill up a Panamax :)
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PACKAGESITE

2008-07-12 Thread perryh
Can someone provide a correct example of setting PACKAGESITE so that
pkg_add will find the 7-stable packages for i386?  I have tried

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/

as shown in the handbook, and also:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable

and all have failed.  I get messages like

pkg_add: could not find package expat-2.0.1 !
pkg_add: could not find package png-1.2.28 !
pkg_add: could not find package pkg-config-0.23_1 !

etc.  Even specifying -v does not cause pkg_add to show exactly
where it is looking (which might provide a clue as to what the
correct setting would look like).  The pkg_add manpage shows an
example for PACKAGEROOT, but not for PACKAGESITE.
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Re: Data loss after power out - fsck: bad inode number to nextinode

2008-07-08 Thread perryh
 What should I do?

In theory,

  clri {special-file} 306176

should wipe the inode containing the bad pointer and allow fsck to
continue, perhaps recovering the files pointed to by that directory
into lost+found.

Definitely try this on a copy first if at all possible.
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Re: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-06 Thread perryh
 In my house, we had an encyclopedia because I was in school ...

 it was useful for research papers.

I suspect the usefulness would depend on what one's teachers meant
by research, which tends to change with grade level.

In elementary and middle school, certainly.  In high school, maybe.
In college, probably not.  Postgraduate, almost certainly not; at
that level one should be using primary sources (and likely know
enough to be writing articles *for* an encyclopedia :)
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Re: mount_nfs not accepting syntax specified by its usage complaint

2008-07-05 Thread perryh
 option 'g' has been removed temporarily, but usage() hasn't
 been updated accordingly.

Aha!  Removing the -g 8 fixed it, and the 512-byte read and readdir
restrictions seem to be working well (albeit slowly).

That a temporary removal present in 7.0 has been there at least
since 6.1 reminds me of an OS/360 PTF, which officially stood for
Program Temporary Fix but was sometimes reputed to actually mean
Permanent Temporary Fix.

Is there any realistic prospect of the -g option being restored in
the near future?  If not, perhaps I should submit a patch to update
the usage() and manpage.
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mount_nfs not accepting syntax specified by its usage complaint

2008-07-04 Thread perryh
How does this command:

# mount_nfs -dis -g 8 -I 512 -R 3 -r 512 -w 512 solomon:/var/spool/uucp 
/solomon/uucp

not comply with the resulting usage complaint?

usage: mount_nfs [-234bcdiLlNPsTU] [-a maxreadahead] [-D deadthresh]
 [-g maxgroups] [-I readdirsize] [-o options] [-R retrycnt]
 [-r readsize] [-t timeout] [-w writesize] [-x retrans]
 rhost:path node

And yes, I really do want to set the read, write, and readdir sizes
to 512 bytes (to get around a network packet-size problem to which
I can find no other solution).  The server is up:

# ping solomon
PING solomon (192.168.200.3): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.200.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=2.807 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.200.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=2.755 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.200.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=2.555 ms
^C
--- solomon ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.555/2.706/2.807/0.109 ms

and the mount point does exist:

# ls -ld /solomon/uucp
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jul  4 18:34 /solomon/uucp

# uname -a
FreeBSD fbsd70.uucp 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 
2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

I get the same behavior, with a very slightly different usage
message, from a 6.1 system.  The server is an ancient sun3
running SunOS 4.1.1-U1, but it looks as if the mount attempt
is not getting far enough for that to matter.
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Re: Windows Unix volunteers

2008-06-27 Thread perryh
 ... the changing of wallpaper is VERY window manager centric ...

xsetroot(1) would not work for all?
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Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs

2008-06-15 Thread perryh
 i have 3 different links to ISP all are ADSL's so outgoing
 bandwidth is low, i would like to spread the load generated
 by outgoing mails.

Pardon my lack of imagination, but how could anyone -- other
than a spammer -- be generating enough outbound email traffic
to *need* to load-balance it, and yet have little enough
total Internet traffic to be using DSL rather than something
oriented to commercial use (like a T1)?
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Re: FreeBSD and User Security

2008-06-12 Thread perryh
 How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus,
 trojan, or rootkit?

For that matter, how do you know that the *original* bios was free
of interesting non-essentials?  It's been a few years since bios
were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone
device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were
typically published :)
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Re: FreeBSD and User Security

2008-06-12 Thread perryh
  It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have  
  a hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the 
  government to the computer. This capability can be implemented 
  using System Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all 
  x86 computers now. It would appear that, if you are connected 
  to the internet, the government has access to your computer.

 if it were true, this system maintenance mode would have to 
 access your network card in parallel with main OS without making 
 conflicts
 
A near-trivial exercise in virtualization, provided it knows what 
kind of card is in use and what addresses it occupies, which is
rather easy if the card is in fact built onto the mainboard.  Of
course, it is also trivial to defeat it by using an add-in card
instead of the one on the mainboard, esp. a card whose design did
not exist when the bios was written.

Cycles consumed by SMM might also explain why some PCs' clocks seem
to run slower than real time ...
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Re: Duplex printer advice

2008-06-01 Thread perryh
 my own requirements list includes (color duplex printer scanner).
 I don't need it to be a laser, but I do need both color, multifunc,
 and duplex printing ...  I begin to wonder if I could find one with
 the same specs ESCEPTING it was the cheaper technology of inkjet.
 ... please don't spend time trying to talk me out of features
 like color, or duplex, I like both too well ...

If you want *good* color, look into Xerox.  Seriously.  They are
not as costly as you may be expecting.

My experience with inkjet is that it produces inferior results,
and saves little or no money if you consider the cost of ink,
esp. when you have to pitch a 3/4-full cartridge because it
clogged up.  BT, DT.

And no, I don't work for Xerox.
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non-RAID SATA

2008-05-25 Thread perryh
I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an
existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not
getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller
which would be expected to work well.  (I'd prefer PCI, since the
USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining
desirable data rates.)

All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of
RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in
cards.

Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be
inclined to share?
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Re: time drift

2008-05-15 Thread perryh
 FreeBSD 6.2 running on X86 hardware (FSC) shows a remarkable time
 drift

 running ntpdate every half hour shows that the system looses about
 10-14 sec each time.
 15 May 10:06:48 ntpdate[7200]: step time ... offset -13.799602 sec
 15 May 10:36:48 ntpdate[7515]: step time ... offset -12.813941 sec
 15 May 11:06:48 ntpdate[7879]: step time ... offset -13.651921 sec
 15 May 11:36:50 ntpdate[8079]: step time ... offset -11.109298 sec
 15 May 12:06:50 ntpdate[8289]: step time ... offset -11.836499 sec
...
 The 6.2 system is a production system, has a uptime of almost 300
 days and I don't want to experiment a lot with acpi, battery or so. 

 What would be your suspicion on the large time drift of the FreeBSD
 6.2 system?

With an uptime of nearly a year -- commendation to the power company
-- and (I take it) a recently-developed problem, I'd be asking what
might have changed shortly before the problem appeared.

Is the system clock source by any chance the CMOS RTC?  If so, I'd
suspect that its battery may be dying.
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Re: Belkin F5D9050 ver 4000

2008-05-15 Thread perryh
 I checked the FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes before I bought
 this USB Ethernet device.
 It should be supported by the rum driver, but it gets picked up
 by ugen instead.
 The Hardware Notes mentions version 3 and the box says ver 4000,
 but I think it's probably actually ver 4.
...
 What am I missing?

It sure sounds as if you are missing a supported USB device :(

Unfortunately, it is not at all uncommon for manufacturers to make
significant internal changes to a product, without changing the
name or the packaging.  At least they changed the version label.

Doing a descriptor dump, and posting the results to freebsd-usb@,
might find someone who knows how to get that particular device to
work.
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Re: Belkin F5D9050 ver 4000

2008-05-15 Thread perryh
  Doing a descriptor dump, and posting the results to freebsd-usb@,
  might find someone who knows how to get that particular device to
  work.
  
 Ok, I'll bite.  How do you do a descriptor dump?

One way is to use sysutils/udesc_dump, from ports, as recommended here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-usb/2008-January/004308.html
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-04 Thread perryh
  ... very shortly after starting the actual install I got an error
  box:
  
  
   VISIO Setup
  
 ! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'
  
  
  and it locked up the display so that CtrlAltF1 would not switch
  to a text screen (although it did allow AltTab to bring up FVWM's
  window list).  After clicking OK:
  
  
   Visio Setup
  
 i Setup failed.
  
  
  and it quit.

 Were there any messages printed in the terminal window?

No.

 What version of Visio is this?

3.0.  Long before M$ took it over, so it should be just a generic
Win32 app with no secret M$ tricks.

 You might also want to try on a Linux system if you have that
 somewhere, just to see if it works there.

If I had a Linux system set up, I'd have tried this there in the
first place.

 Also, you should really take this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailing list. The people there should know more about this than
 here on a FreeBSD mailing list.

I suppose I can try it, but I wonder how much interest there will
be on a wine list in supporting FreeBSD.  At a minimum I suppose
they'll want to know if it still breaks on the latest wine version,
and I'll have no way to find out since the FreeBSD port doesn't
support the latest wine version.

In any case, it seems FreeBSD should not be allowing a port -- any
port -- to lock out CtrlAltF1.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-04 Thread perryh
  Wine has its own simple version of Wordpad though.
  Just run wine wordpad.
  
  This version has its own notepad, but it doesn't appear to have
  wordpad.  (There's no wordpad.exe that I can find, but there
  are two identical copies of notepad.exe -- one in .../windows
  and the other in .../windows/system32.)

 wine wordpad still works though. It's in /usr/local/lib/wine.

Along with yet another notepad, this one twice the size of the ones
in .../windows and .../windows/system32!  The obvious followup is
which one actually gets used if someone runs wine notepad, but
I doubt it's worth looking into.
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wine: app won't install from floppy

2008-05-03 Thread perryh
What is the correct way of installing something into wine from
floppy?  The obvious approach:

  $ wine 'a:\setup.exe'

did not work with a (fairly old version of) Visio:  the option
dialogs seemed to work properly, but very shortly after starting
the actual install I got an error box:


 VISIO Setup

   ! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'


It somehow locked out CtrlAltF1 so I could not switch to a text
screen, but AltTab did bring up FVWM's window list (thus making
it possible to transcribe the error message into an xterm that
was not related to the wine session).

After clicking OK I got an info box:


 Visio Setup

   i Setup failed.


and it quit when I clicked OK there.

Comparing the contents of .wine before/after the attempt, it seems
the only change involves the font entries in the registry:

  $ diff -r wineBak .wine
  diff -r wineBak/system.reg .wine/system.reg
  9082c9082
   [Software\\Microsoft\\Windows NT\\CurrentVersion\\Fonts] 1208923638
  ---
   [Software\\Microsoft\\Windows NT\\CurrentVersion\\Fonts] 1209616619
  diff -r wineBak/user.reg .wine/user.reg
  453c453
   [Software\\Wine\\Fonts] 1208923638
  ---
   [Software\\Wine\\Fonts] 1209616619
  456c456
   [Software\\Wine\\Fonts\\External Fonts] 1208923638
  ---
   [Software\\Wine\\Fonts\\External Fonts] 1209616619

and of course I have no clue whether this makes any difference to
anything.

  $ uname -a
  FreeBSD fbsd70.uucp 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 
UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

  $ wine --version
  wine-0.9.48

a: is symlinked to /fd in .wine/dosdevices and /dev/fd0 is mounted
on /fd
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-01 Thread perryh
 You have to mount the floppy and then link a: to the mount point.
 So if you mount it under /mnt you'd need this:

 mount -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /mnt
 ln -s /mnt ~/.wine/dosdevices/a:

That got only a little bit farther.  It did find the setup program,
and the option dialogs seemed to work properly, but very shortly
after starting the actual install I got an error box:


 VISIO Setup

   ! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'


and it locked up the display so that CtrlAltF1 would not switch
to a text screen (although it did allow AltTab to bring up FVWM's
window list).  After clicking OK:


 Visio Setup

   i Setup failed.


and it quit.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-29 Thread perryh
 Wine has its own simple version of Wordpad though.
 Just run wine wordpad.

This version has its own notepad, but it doesn't appear to have
wordpad.  (There's no wordpad.exe that I can find, but there
are two identical copies of notepad.exe -- one in .../windows
and the other in .../windows/system32.)

 I'm not entirely sure, but I think the :: link is only used for
 raw access to devices. Wine doesn't mount disks on its own.

For floppies, which AFAIK are always formatted as FAT, I'd settle
for having it use mtools so the disk wouldn't need to be mounted
at all :)
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-26 Thread perryh
 It's really easier to try to install an app under Wine ...

With, it seems, at least two exceptions:

* Some apps -- such as Wordpad and Write -- are packaged and
  installed with Windows, rather than on separate media.  Are
  there instructions somewhere for installing such an app
  under wine?  I'm certainly not finding it at all obvious.

* Some add-on (separately installable) apps are packaged
  on multiple diskettes (or multiple CDs for that matter). 
  Pre-mounting the first, and pointing wine at the mount
  point, seems likely to result in getting stuck partway
  through the install when it asks for the second disk.

The version of Visio that I have is in the second category.

The manpage describes a way of pointing wine to a device
rather than to a mounted filesystem:

  The Unix device corresponding to a DOS drive can be
  specified the same way, except with '::' instead of
  ':'. So for the previous example, if the CDROM device
  is mounted from /dev/hdc, the corresponding symlink
  would be $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d:: - /dev/hdc.

but, as reported elsewhere, wine could not find setup.exe
on the Visio install diskette with dosdevices set up this
way.

 ... You also might want to have a look at
 http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for a script
 that can install and setup various packages ...

Unfortunately, I can't find Visio in its list of packages.

Is there something else to try, or is installing an app like
Visio beyond Wine's current capabilities?
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-23 Thread perryh
 If I were you I'd just try to install Visio under Wine and see how
 it goes. That is, mount the install cd, check with winecfg that
 Wine can see the mount point as a drive D: or something and then
 run wine d:\\setup.exe ...

It did not work at all.  This version of Visio is old enough that
it installs from floppies, rather than from CD :) and I've set it
up in .wine/dosdevices according to the manpage:

  $ ls -la .wine/dosdevices
  total 4
  drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  staff  512 Apr 21 00:17 .
  drwxr-xr-x  4 perryh  staff  512 Apr 22 21:07 ..
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff8 Apr 21 00:17 a:: - /dev/fd0
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff   10 Apr 19 16:39 c: - ../drive_c
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff1 Apr 19 16:39 z: - /

mdir can read the disk, and it does contain a setup.exe, but
wine can't see it:

  $ wine a:setup.exe
  wine: cannot find 'a:setup.exe'
  $ wine 'a:\setup.exe'
  wine: cannot find 'a:\setup.exe'

There doesn't seem to be a manpage for winecfg:

  $ man winecfg
  No manual entry for winecfg

and when I tried to run it it was not at all obvious what to do.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-23 Thread perryh
 $ ls -la .wine/dosdevices
 total 4
 drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  staff  512 Apr 21 00:17 .
 drwxr-xr-x  4 perryh  staff  512 Apr 22 21:07 ..
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff8 Apr 21 00:17 a:: - /dev/fd0

   Is the second colon intentional

Yes!  That is exactly what the manpage says to do, so as to have
wine use a *device* rather than a node in the Unix filesystem:

  $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices
Directory  containing the DOS device mappings. Each file in that
directory is a symlink to the Unix device  file  implementing  a
given  device.  For  instance,  if  COM1 is mapped to /dev/ttyS0
you'd have a symlink of the form $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/com1  -
/dev/ttyS0.
DOS  drives  are  also  specified with symlinks; for instance if
drive D: corresponds to the CDROM mounted at  /mnt/cdrom,  you'd
have a symlink $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d: - /mnt/cdrom. The Unix
  device corresponding to a DOS drive can be  specified  the  same
  way,  except with '::' instead of ':'. So for the previous exam-
  ple, if the CDROM device is mounted from  /dev/hdc,  the  corre-
  sponding   symlink   would   be   $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d::  -
  /dev/hdc.

Presumably this method is provided so that wine can be given access
to a removable device without a particular disk having to be mounted.
It would be, at the least, inconvenient to have to mount and unmount
a sequence of 5 floppies to do this installation.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-21 Thread perryh
  ... If you want to run applications under Wine either install
  them under Wine or (with simple applications) copy them over
  from a Windows install into ~/.wine/drive_c.

 And specifically I'd populate  ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
 from a real windows installation. 

Which raises the question:  how does one figure out what-all
pieces of a real windows installation should and should not be
copied (or symlinked) into ~/.wine/drive_c?  So far it looks
as if some (but surely not all) .exe's and .dll's, and (all?)
fonts, should be imported.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-19 Thread perryh
   I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and
   there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze

   deletia
   
   How do I fix this?

   I would start by upgrading and re-installing wine.  You have
 0.9.20; the current version is 0.9.55 and I believe there have been
 substantial improvements.

When I updated my ports, the newer wine refused to install on 6.1,
saying it wouldn't work properly on anything prior to 6.3 IIRC.

Rather than risk breaking my primary system in an upgrade attempt,
I installed 7.0-RELEASE and wine-0.9.48 (the version from the
7.0-RELEASE ports) on a different machine.  It happened to have XP,
so I'm now trying to run XP .exe's instead of win98 .exe's.

Notepad and Write are, if anything, worse than before:  now, if
I just start typing without selecting a font, I get something
that looks more or less like dingbats.  They do seem to work if
I explicitly select Courier.  (The ultimate goal is to run Visio,
not to do word processing, but I'm trying to start with something
simple.)

The problem with wordpad has not changed very much:

  $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
status c135

(Previously it was looking for MFC42.DLL instead of MFC42u.DLL.)

OK, it doesn't know where to find the DLLs.  Try making a symlink
to a place which (per the manpage) is always searched:

  $ ls -l /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 
/winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll
  $ ln -s /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll /usr/local/lib/wine
  $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
status c135

Maybe the search is case-sensitive (although Windows ordinarily
isn't)?

  $ ln -s /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll /usr/local/lib/wine/MFC42u.DLL
  $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
status c135

The symlinks in /usr/local/lib/wine *do* point to that DLL, and they
*can* be followed successfully:

  $ ( cd /usr/local/lib/wine ; ls -lL mfc* MFC* )
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 MFC42u.DLL
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 mfc42u.dll

Now what?  I can't imagine anyone would be able to do much with wine
if problems finding DLLs were common.  What am I doing wrong?

  $ wine --version
  wine-0.9.48
  $ uname -a
  FreeBSD fbsd70.uucp 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 
UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
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Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition

2008-04-10 Thread perryh
   Where do such articles go for FreeBSD? ... I can make
   a website on my server for it, but it seems to be a
   kind of overkill, for just such installing sequence..

   If you have things working for Flash 9, enough people
 /will/ be interested this is not overkill.
   My suggestion:
   1) create a web page; present the steps (with commentary
 is appropriate) in an easily readable format; _date the page_.
   2) post the URL to questions@, ports@, and possibly www@ and
 multimedia@ in separate posts.  Make the subject line something
 relevant - this is not about Adobe Flash Player Petition.

and/or send a PR, including the content (not just the URL), to have
it added to the Handbook or the FAQ.  That way, even if the website
goes away before a doc committer gets to it, it's archived in the
PR database.
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Re: pkg_add goofiness in 7.0

2008-03-31 Thread perryh
...
  extract: execute '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc 
  /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports add linuxdoc/catalog'
  xmlcatmgr: unbalanced arguments for `add' action
  pkg_add: command '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc 
  /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports add linuxdoc/catalog' failed
...

 That looks like a warning from xmlcatmgr which may or may not be 
 important, but the package apparently added itself completely (no
 errors were reported by pkg_add).

It may not make a lot of difference, but I am now wondering how to
recognize an error reported by pkg_add since this:

  pkg_add: command '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc 
  /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports add linuxdoc/catalog' failed

looks like one to me, but apparently it isn't.

 You should look into the xmlcatmgr documentation, or talk to the
 port maintainer, to find out what that warning means and if it
 is important.

I didn't find anything pertinent in the (minimal) installed
documentation.

Just taking the xmlcatmgr message at face value, it looks as if
some addition that linuxdoc intended to make in some catalog did
not get done.  Anything following that step in the postinstall
script may also not have gotten done.  My gut suspicion is that
there is something wrong with the linuxdoc postinstall script
-- or perhaps linuxdoc has an unstated dependency which I don't
happen to have installed -- rather than something wrong with
xmlcatmgr.  PR time, I guess :(
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pkg_add goofiness in 7.0

2008-03-30 Thread perryh
The first time I tried to add linuxdoc-1.1_1.tbz to a new-from-CD
7.0 installation, it complained about a missing dependency that
was on the other CD.  OK, I switched CDs and installed that, then
switched back and retried linuxdoc-1.1_1.tbz, and it gave me some
sort of error about an unbalanced add operation.  (I didn't try
to copy down all the details, figuring instead to retry with a
script(1) active so as to capture them.)  Upon that retry, it now
tells me that the package is already installed, even though the
prior attempt failed.

What is going on?

# uname -a
FreeBSD fbsd70.uucp 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 
2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
# ls -l linuxdoc*
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  9156 Feb 24 08:18 linuxdoc-1.1_1.tbz
# pkg_add -Kv linuxdoc*
Requested space: 36624 bytes, free space: 774981632 bytes in 
/var/tmp/instmp.3DBbHN
pkg_add: package 'linuxdoc-1.1_1' or its older version already installed
pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed
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Re: pkg_add goofiness in 7.0

2008-03-30 Thread perryh
  [trying to install linuxdoc-1.1_1.tbz] it gave me some
  sort of error about an unbalanced add operation.  (I didn't try
  to copy down all the details, figuring instead to retry with a
  script(1) active so as to capture them.)  Upon that retry, it now
  tells me that the package is already installed, even though the
  prior attempt failed.
  ...
  # ls -l linuxdoc*
  -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  9156 Feb 24 08:18 linuxdoc-1.1_1.tbz
  # pkg_add -Kv linuxdoc*
  Requested space: 36624 bytes, free space: 774981632 bytes in 
  /var/tmp/instmp.3DBbHN
  pkg_add: package 'linuxdoc-1.1_1' or its older version already installed
  pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed

 No idea, you'll have to recreate the failure and show us.

Which failure are you referring to?  The original one with the
unbalanced add message, or the new one where it claims the package is
already installed even though the previous installation reportedly
failed?

I can recreate the second one any number of times, but absent some
specific suggestion it's not going to produce any more output than
shown above.  (I'm already specifying -v.)  Short of wiping the
drive and starting completely over, I have no idea how to go about
reproducing the original failure without first fixing the newer one.
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Re: pkg_add goofiness in 7.0

2008-03-30 Thread perryh
 What you showed does not indicate a failure.  If you are saying
 that the package wasn't actually installed completely, then
 pkg_delete it and retry.

I am not saying that the package was installed incompletely,
incorrectly, or something else because I don't know which of those
applies.  *The package installation itself* threw an error message,
with no instructions for recovery, and left the package database
corrupted (incorrectly showing the package as installed).

pkg_delete was only partially successful, perhaps because it was
unable to completely clean up the corruption.  Now what?

# pkg_delete -v linuxdoc-1.1_1
Trying to remove dependency on package 'xmlcatmgr-2.2' with 
'textproc/xmlcatmgr' origin.
Trying to remove dependency on package 'iso8879-1986_2' with 'textproc/iso8879' 
origin.
Change working directory to /usr/local
Delete file /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/README
Execute '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports 
remove linuxdoc/catalog'
xmlcatmgr: enabling compatibility mode; removing ALL matching entries
xmlcatmgr: no matching entry for `linuxdoc/catalog' of any type
pkg_delete: unexec command for '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc 
/usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports remove linuxdoc/catalog' failed
Delete file /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/catalog
Delete file /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/freebsd-1.0.dtd
Delete file /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/freebsd-1.1.dtd
Delete file /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/linuxdoc.dec
Delete file /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/original.dtd
Delete directory /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc
Change working directory to .
pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is
incorrectly specified?)
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Re: pkg_add goofiness in 7.0

2008-03-30 Thread perryh
I believe this is the same as the error message I saw originally
(when I had not specified -v, so it wasn't buried among a pile of
other stuff):

xmlcatmgr: unbalanced arguments for `add' action

# pkg_add -Kv linuxdoc*
Requested space: 36624 bytes, free space: 774946816 bytes in 
/var/tmp/instmp.CfA0bH
Package 'linuxdoc-1.1_1' depends on 'xmlcatmgr-2.2' with 'textproc/xmlcatmgr' 
origin.
 - already installed.
Package 'linuxdoc-1.1_1' depends on 'iso8879-1986_2' with 'textproc/iso8879' 
origin.
 - already installed.
extract: Package name is linuxdoc-1.1_1
extract: CWD to /usr/local
extract: /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/README
extract: /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/catalog
extract: execute '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc 
/usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports add linuxdoc/catalog'
xmlcatmgr: unbalanced arguments for `add' action
pkg_add: command '/usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -sc 
/usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports add linuxdoc/catalog' failed
extract: /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/freebsd-1.0.dtd
extract: /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/freebsd-1.1.dtd
extract: /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/linuxdoc.dec
extract: /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/original.dtd
extract: CWD to .
Running mtree for linuxdoc-1.1_1..
mtree -U -f +MTREE_DIRS -d -e -p /usr/local /dev/null
Attempting to record package into /var/db/pkg/linuxdoc-1.1_1..
Trying to record dependency on package 'xmlcatmgr-2.2' with 
'textproc/xmlcatmgr' origin.
Trying to record dependency on package 'iso8879-1986_2' with 'textproc/iso8879' 
origin.
Package linuxdoc-1.1_1 registered in /var/db/pkg/linuxdoc-1.1_1
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Re: Mac osX drivers

2008-03-24 Thread perryh
 I know I keep asking about drivers, but what about Mac drivers? I
 understand that Mac osX is based fairly well on BSD, so would the
 drivers be portable?

Last I heard, MacOs X userland was based on FreeBSD but the MacOS X
kernel was Mach.  The part of a driver that deals with the hardware
might be portable, but it doesn't seem so likely for the part that
deals with the OS.
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Re: List replies

2008-03-23 Thread perryh
 There is a touching concern for newbies in all this, which is out
 of step with the somewhat edgy aspect of FreeBSD that most of you
 seem to embrace in other connections.  And the bottom line is that
 most newbies end up elsewhere.  If making FreeBSD more popular is
 a priority, there is long list of issues that are more vital than
 this detail that we are discussing in this thread.

Given that the project is run almost entirely by volunteers,
I suppose some disconnects are inevitable.  One example:  it's
considered very important for questions@ to be newbie-friendly,
to the point of accepting posts from non-subscribers, but it's
*not* considered important to tune up sysinstall to prevent
botches like installing a system that can't be booted because
it has no kernel.
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dependencies in portmaster

2008-03-01 Thread perryh
I am trying to figure out what-all would happen if I were to install
a particular port.  IOW I want to do something like

  # portmaster {some set of options} name-of-port

and have it report something along the lines of

  name-of-port vn #.## requires:
port  status
  --
dependency-1  OK
dependency-2  need vn 2.22, current 1.05
dependency-3  not installed
...

  dependency-2 vn 2.22 requires:
port  status
  --
dependency-4  OK
dependency-5  need vn 5.03, current 4.57
...

  dependency-3 vn #.## requires:
port  status
  --
dependency-6  not installed

  ...

I do not want it to actually build or install anything.

If I am understanding the portmaster manpage correctly this is close
to what -n would do, but I don't even want it to do 'make config' --
I just want a report of what would have to be added or upgraded in
order to install the port in question.  (I imagine portmaster has
to already be collecting this sort of information internally, the
question is how to get it reported externally.)

BTW I am looking for a solution that does not involve portupgrade,
because I do not have portupgrade installed and before attempting
to install it I would want to see this sort of report regarding it.
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Re: dependencies in portmaster

2008-03-01 Thread perryh
 If you truly are just looking at the dependency list and do not
 wish to have make do anything, wouldn't this do the trick:

 http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py

Not quite, because it doesn't show which of the dependencies
I have already got installed, and which of those would need
to be updated.

Secondly, I would have needed to know it existed :)

 I guess you would need to have an up to date ports tree for this
 to be accurate.

Not a problem in this case.  The whole point is to find out what-all
I would be stuck with building in order to build one particular port
after updating the tree a few days ago.

Why not just rebuild everything?  Because I'm not willing to attempt
a rebuild of OpenOffice -- that was a collosal PITA the first time
-- nor the xorg migration; I figure those are better accomplished by
a clean install once the Mall's 7.0 CD set is ready.
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Re: setting X11BASE

2008-02-24 Thread perryh
I'm finding it especially interesting that /etc/make.conf,
which to judge from its location is part of the base, depends
on a setting from something in the /usr/ports tree.
  
   Well, actually it doesn't. What gives you this impression?
 
  Paul Schmehl reported where LOCALBASE is set:
  in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
 
  Now I'm being told to add this:
 
  X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}
 
  to /etc/make.conf, so that /etc/make.conf needs LOCALBASE to be
  set in order to set X11BASE correctly.  Is that not a dependency?

 You assume make(1)'s variable assignment is done on encounter base
 at runtime.  It isn't:

 # echo LOCALBASE=/usr/local /tmp/foo.mk

 # echo 'X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}' /etc/make.conf

 # make -f /tmp/foo.mk -V X11BASE
 /usr/local

 # echo LOCALBASE=/tmp /tmp/foo.mk

 # make -f /tmp/foo.mk -V X11BASE
 /tmp

 For your academic interest:
 gzcat /usr/share/doc/psd/12.make/paper.ascii.gz|$PAGER

I know perfectly well how make works.  The point is, if we have

X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}

in /etc/make.conf, X11BASE is going to be set *correctly* during
any particular execution of make only if LOCALBASE is set somewhere
in the makefiles that are processed during that execution of make.

If we run make under conditions that *don't* involve processing
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk -- such as when building something
that isn't a port -- X11BASE is going to be *wrong* (unless a
definition gets provided somewhere else, as in your examples).

IOW adding this line to /etc/make.conf creates a dependency on
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, and that seems undesirable.  Would
it not be better to put it somewhere under /usr/ports/Mk or
/usr/local/etc, rather than polluting the base with a ports-ism?
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Re: setting X11BASE

2008-02-23 Thread perryh
 LOCALBASE is /usr/local unless you've changed it (but then you
 would already know what it was if you had.)  You can find its
 value in /usr/ports/Mk/

  grep LOCALBASE?= /usr/ports/Mk/*
 /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:LOCALBASE?=   /usr/local

Aha!

  In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and
  would prefer not to go through all that.  It ain't broke ...

 ... if you want to stay with the old system, you're probably going
 to need to put USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE?=/usr/X11R6 in your make.conf
 file to keep your ports from breaking in interesting ways ...

Aha! again.

 Read /usr/ports/UPDATING carefully before proceeding.

I did, but only as far back as the last time I updated, and I skipped
entries which were identified as affecting ports I haven't installed
or don't use ... including the modular xorg which I'm trying to avoid.
(I figure it can wait until I do a clean install, on a different
machine, using 7.0 when it comes out.)
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Re: setting X11BASE

2008-02-23 Thread perryh
  * What is the value of LOCALBASE?  I'm not finding any
definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf.

 Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the
 value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}.

Academic interest :)

I'm finding it especially interesting that /etc/make.conf, which
to judge from its location is part of the base, depends on a setting
from something in the /usr/ports tree.

  In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and
  would prefer not to go through all that.  It ain't broke ...

 True, but your portstree is now 'broken', because support for how
 it used to work is being phased out, like the whole X11BASE thing.

 I think if you upgrade anything that depends on xorg, you'll find
 dependencies being pulled in that are part of the modular xorg,
 unless you really know what you're doing.

... which is why I am trying to install portmaster before doing
anything else.  I may try pkg_tree also, if it doesn't lead into
a dependency maze of its own.
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Re: setting X11BASE

2008-02-23 Thread perryh
  * What is the value of LOCALBASE?  I'm not finding any
definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf.
 
  Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the
  value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}.
  
  Academic interest :)
  
  I'm finding it especially interesting that /etc/make.conf,
  which to judge from its location is part of the base, depends
  on a setting from something in the /usr/ports tree.

 Well, actually it doesn't. What gives you this impression?

Paul Schmehl reported where LOCALBASE is set: in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk

Now I'm being told to add this:

X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}

to /etc/make.conf, so that /etc/make.conf needs LOCALBASE to be set
in order to set X11BASE correctly.  Is that not a dependency?
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Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.

2008-02-21 Thread perryh
   Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy
   for my desktops.  I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box;
   my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters.
 
  A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at
  Fry's.  It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network
  port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr 
 
  What is lpr?

see man lpr and its see also entries.

  Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command 
  language

As I said, this one speaks PostScript.

  in which case you need a driver.

Not in this case :)

  LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems.
  Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free 
  standing printer server.

It is freestanding.

 There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have 
 binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be?

I didn't install any drivers, just added it to printcap and hosts:

lp|Samsung ML-2571N PostScript network printer:\
:sh:\
:rm=ml2571n:sd=/var/spool/output/ml2571n:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

192.168.200.201 ml2571n

and it Just Works (TM).  I suppose apps like OpenOffice might need
to be told it is a PostScript printer.  If I needed to do that, and
didn't have anything more specific handy, I would just configure it
as a LaserWriter NTX.  I have yet to find a monochrome PostScript
printer for which that does not work well enough.

 Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything
 on FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard Ghost Script
 drivers. I noticed also that some drivers for older Brother 
 printers are removed from Ghost Script 7.0 and 8.0.

AFAIK GS is only needed if you want to print PostScript files on a
printer that does not contain a PostScript interpreter.  It's not
needed when dealing with a PostScript printer.
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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-21 Thread perryh
 When defining the differences to my clients as to windows,
 Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ...

Sheesh!  What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that?

I still see the occasional beetle on the roads.  I doubt that would
be the case if they had to be rebooted a couple of times a day.
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setting X11BASE

2008-02-21 Thread perryh
After updating with portsnap, I am getting an insufficiently-helpful
error message:

On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set
default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting
X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf.  On the other hand, if
you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set variable
USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE.

* Am I correct in *guessing* that make.conf refers to
  /etc/make.conf?

* What is the value of LOCALBASE?  I'm not finding any
  definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf.

* How do I figure out whether I should set USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE?

* Why does it even need this?  The port I am trying to install
  ATM (portmaster, to get a handle on the dependency maze) has
  nothing to do with X11.

In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and
would prefer not to go through all that.  It ain't broke ...
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Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.

2008-02-20 Thread perryh
  Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy
  for my desktops.  I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box;
  my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters.

A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at
Fry's.  It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network
port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr (so you don't
need to bother with CUPS).

I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge.  Replacements
are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them.

That's black only.  The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript
printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been
quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each)
-- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month.  IIRC the
color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500.  This one
is also supposed to handle lpr natively.  While I haven't got one (yet),
I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk.
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Re: Mounting a read-only md FS as read-only

2008-02-18 Thread perryh
 does mount_ext2fs support readonly at all?

The manpage implies that it does:

  The options are as follows:

  -o  Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a comma sepa-
  rated string of options.  See the mount(8) man page for possible
  options and their meanings.
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wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-02-18 Thread perryh
I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and
there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze

  % grep -w windoze /etc/fstab
  /dev/ad0s1/windozemsdosfsro00

If I run Notepad, like this, it seems to work

  % wine /windoze/WIN98/NOTEPAD.EXE

but if I then try to run Write:

  % wine /windoze/WIN98/WRITE.EXE

the window title bar says Wordpad and several
capabilities (like Save) don't work.

Meanwhile the *real* Wordpad doesn't even start:

  % wine /windoze/PROGRA~1/ACCESS~1/WORDPAD.EXE
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\windoze\\PROGRA~1\\ACCESS~1\\WORDPAD.EXE) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\windoze\\PROGRA~1\\ACCESS~1\\WORDPAD.EXE failed, status c135

but MFC42.DLL does exist, in what I think is the usual place:

  % find /windoze -name MFC42.DLL -ls
  3536377 1948 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 995383 Apr 23 1999 
/windoze/WIN98/SYSTEM/MFC42.DLL

How do I fix this?
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Mounting a read-only md FS as read-only

2008-02-17 Thread perryh
I'm trying to mount an ext2fs image (in a file), following sec.
17.13.2 of the Handbook and the mdconfig(8) manpage.  Since I don't
want to change the image, just examine it, I specified -o readonly
to mdconfig and the equivalent to mount.  Is there some reason why
this should not work?  The backing file, and the mountpoint, do
exist.

# ls -ld [filename]
-rw-r--r--  1 perryh  perryh  104857600 Mar 16  2007 [filename]
# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f [filename] -o readonly
md0
# ls -ld /dev/md0 /[mountpoint]
crw-r-  1 root  operator1,  15 Nov 24 21:17 /dev/md0
drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  perryh512 Feb 17 21:57 /[mountpoint]
# mount -r -o noexec -t ext2fs /dev/md0 /[mountpoint]
mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system
# mount -o ro,noexec -t ext2fs /dev/md0 /[mountpoint]
mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system
# /sbin/mount_ext2fs -o ro,noexec /dev/md0 /[mountpoint]
mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system
# mdconfig -l -u 0
md0 vnode 100M  /[mountpoint]
# uname -a
FreeBSD fbsd61 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan  1 23:01:34 PST 
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC  i386
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Re: projectm questions

2008-02-09 Thread perryh
 Linking CXX shared library libprojectM.so
 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLEW
 *** Error code 1
 ...
 After a bit of poking around I found
 ln -s /usr/local/lib/libGLEW.a /usr/lib/libGLEW.a
 fixed it. I also had to do
 ln -s /usr/local/lib/libftgl.a /usr/lib/libftgl.a
 ln -s /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.a /usr/lib/libfreetype.a

 Well that's alright for a fix but
 Question 2: what do I have to do to get that to work automatically?

Lose the symlinks, and instead figure out how to add
  -L/usr/local/lib
to the link command line so that the linker looks for
libs there as well as in /usr/lib.

You might find the FreeBSD porter's handbook helpful.
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Re: cron to attach a gz file

2008-01-31 Thread perryh
  I know I can use
  
  mail -s logfile   /var/log/httpd_access.log
  
  in cron to email the content of a log file to a particular email
  address but how do I make that log file a binary attachment (*.gz)?

 gzip -c /var/log/httpd_access.log | uuencode httpd_access.log.gz | mail 
 -s logfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you want an actual MIME attachment, see /usr/ports/mail/nail
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Re: Network configuration in FreeBSD

2008-01-28 Thread perryh
 You need to set the default gateway in /etc/rc.conf.  Without a
 default gateway, you will need to add a default route with the
 route command.

 Without a route your machine will only be able to ping itself.

Unless something has changed dramatically -- and fairly recently --
a machine that knows its own IP address and netmask should be able
to ping anything on the same subnet as itself (an interface being
implicitly a route to any other IP address on the same subnet).
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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread perryh
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2007-12-27 11:02, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
  graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with
  something undefined in perl5.8.
 
  Anybody know what this is:
  Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?

 That's odd.  The mutt-devel port (which I am using to type
 and post this message) does not seem to depend on Perl:

Last time I recall seeing a symbol name ending in rune it
had something to do with handling charsets and/or locales.
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Re: FreeBSD for Sony Playstation3?

2007-11-30 Thread perryh
  ... will FreeBSD.org consider porting FreeBSD to Sony
  Playstation3?

 ... NetBSD works like a charm on Sony Playstation2
 http://www.netbsd.org/ports/playstation2/.

 and my guess will be that NetBSD 4.0 which is supposed to
 be released about the same time as FreeBSD 7.0 will work
 on Playstation3.

The IBM Cell processor in the PS3 is unique beast, similar in many
ways to a PPC970 but with enough subtle (and some not-so-subtle)
differences that the port would likely need to be overseen by
someone familiar with such undertakings.  This is not to predict
that NetBSD 4.0 will or won't support it -- that could reasonably
be asked on a NetBSD list -- but be aware that it may turn out to
be a bigger job than one might initially expect.
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Re: K3b

2007-11-25 Thread perryh
 BTW: I really gets annoyed when people say by the way
 it works in Linux, Windows, Solaris or whatever.
 What is that suppose to mean?

When someone describes a problem getting a certain hardware setup
to work as desired in FreeBSD, and reports that it works in some
other OS, I would take it to mean that one need not suggest testing
the hardware, since it is already known to work properly in the
other environment.  For someone who happens to be familiar with
whatever other OS was mentioned, it may also serve as an example
of the sort of operation that the poster was attempting to achieve
in FreeBSD.
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Re: hidden disk geometry on Compaq Presario V2000

2007-10-25 Thread perryh
Lorin Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a Compaq Presario Notebook in the V2000 series.
 I just replaced the hard drive because the original was getting
 disk errors.

 I have a WD Scorpio 120 GB.  When I try to load FreeBSD I get an
 error message when I get to the partition the disk stage.  It
 says my disk geometry is wrong.  It says I need to use whatever
 numbers my BIOS uses.  But my BIOS doesn't show the disk geometry
 numbers anywhere I can see.  How can I proceed?  How can I find
 out what disk geometry to use?

One method, which I think may be mentioned in the Handbook, is to
boot the Windows install CD (that presumably came with the Presario)
and use its fdisk to create a small partition.  You don't need to
actually install Windows, just create a partition as if you were
going to install it.  Then boot the FreeBSD CD and sysinstall will
figure out the geometry from the Windows master boot record.
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Re: add application names to the drop-down menu??

2007-10-22 Thread perryh
  Can anybodytell me how to add apps to the Gnome drop-down
  menu beneath the string Applications? (Upper-left-hand corner)

 Try using deskutils/alacarte ...

x11-wm/wmconfig is another possibility.
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on J7F4 locks up

2007-10-18 Thread perryh
 I've now also experienced lock ups when building world in in
 single user mode, without using the nics. So the problem might
 not only be the nics. Cany anyone confirm this?

 ACPI, SATA, AC97 and USB were disabled when the lock up occurred.

The canonical suspect would be flakey memory.
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How to set up a network-attached printer

2007-10-13 Thread perryh
Where would I find a specific method for setting up a Samsung
ML-2571N network-attached PostScript printer in FreeBSD 6.1?
I'm hoping for something less generic than what I've found in
the handbook.

It just works from MacOS X, as did the old LaserWriter IIf
that the Samsung replaced, so I suppose one approach would be
to use the Mac as a print server; but I would prefer to print
from FreeBSD directly so that the Mac does not need to be up
in order to print from the FreeBSD machine.
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Re: shooting oneself in the foot with ldconfig -v

2007-10-11 Thread perryh
  The previously configured directory list was fully populated, so
  effectively there should have been no change as the previously
  configured directories were untouched and I specified no
  additional pathnames.
  ...
  Are you saying that by specifying -v I no longer satisfied the
  no parameters are given clause and ended up in a default place
  in the logic?

 That wasn't actually what I was saying, but after checking the
 source code it turns out you are right and that is exactly what
 happens.

  ... IMHO a verbose switch shouldn't change behavior; it should
  just spam the console a lot.

 True.

Current behavior sounds like, at best, a LOLA violation.  Perhaps the
OP would consider submitting a PR.
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Re: Hello!

2007-08-21 Thread perryh
  From a pilot's point of view:
  FreeBSD is an F-4 Phantom.
  Mac is a P-38 Trainer.
  Windows is a DC-10.
(with a hydraulic leak)

Nah, a pig.  See RFC 1925 and/or Oliver Fromme's .sig.
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OT: good vs evil (Re: vlc won't play region encoded DVDs)

2007-08-19 Thread perryh
 ... another story in the neverending
 race between good and evil. ;-)

For some reason, that reminded me of a John Byrom quote
(which is likely better known than its author):

http://www.born-today.com/Today/d09-23.htm
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X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about GUI)

2007-08-10 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text
 and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config,
 there are plenty of nice other wm's good for that.

I am not following this.  If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI,
how would you define

* a GUI

* X.org + some WM
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Re: what way to update named?

2007-08-01 Thread perryh
  Are you sure your run the make with sufficient priviledges?

 I think this was it. I originally used sudo but second time
 I did it as su and it went very well. Thank you!

If sudo to root does not give the same privs as su to root,
I'd guess sudo is either buggy or not configured properly.
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Re: non-interactive dump

2007-07-08 Thread perryh
  Is there a way to tell dump to do it's working without it asking
  Is the new volume mounted and ready to go?: (yes or no)
  everytime it changes mount points?

 How else can it tell when you've swapped in new media?  If it
 automatically continued it would just overwrite the previous
 segment. 

In principle, when dumping to a sequence of volumes on a removable
device, it could watch for the device to become not-ready and then
ready again.
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Re: The worst error message in history belongs to... BIND9!

2007-07-04 Thread perryh
  If one is going to require the installation of something that may
  not be part of a base system, that something might as well be bash :)

 Except that bash requires all the icky GNU utilities to build so you
 have to GNUify your system.

And perl doesn't?  It was GPL last I knew.

 The second you put in gmake, gmake requires
 iconv, readline and all the other nasty libraries, and from that point
 on if you build something you never know if it's going to link in to
 one of those libraries.
 ...
 This can cause major problems for commercial users.

How?  Last I heard, the *L*GPL only requires making the *library*
source available (and that only if the library has been modified).
It doesn't extend to the using application.

 I'd love for someone to modify the gmake port to have a variable
 you can set that would build all the GNUified dependency libraries,
 build and install gmake and statically link in all it's GNUified
 libraries, then remove all the GNUified libraries.

Or, change all the gnu ports to install into something like
/usr/local/gnu or /usr/local/gpl instead of straight into
/usr/local.  You'd still have the gnu libs when needed, but
without having them included in normal search paths.
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Re: The worst error message in history belongs to... BIND9!

2007-07-03 Thread perryh
  This is actually just the difference between sh and bash ...
 
 differences in, say, arithmetic handling and loops can sometimes
 mean rewriting parts of shell scripts depending on whether it is
 going to run in BSD or Linux.

 That's a major argument for doing things in python or perl as
 they are consistent across all platforms ...

If one is going to require the installation of something that may
not be part of a base system, that something might as well be bash :)
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Re: umount -f

2007-06-11 Thread perryh
   1. If I use umount -f /dev/ad4s1a to forcefully umount a
   file system, does this jeopardize the integrity of said
   file system? Like...will it jerk the run out from under
   a process in the middle of a disk write, thus leaving a
   half written file, or will it wait until the write is
   complete? (I guess this would largely depend on the
   disk controller?)
  
  I don't believe there are any guarantees if your -f it.
  The filesystem will probably be OK, but I would expect
  files to get corrupt.

 Shouldn't happen, if it does it's a bug.

umount -f should not corrupt the filesystem, IOW fsck of an
FS immediately after umount -f should not report anything
more serious than some homeless files (if the last link had
been removed, but the inode had not been released because some
process still had it open).

However data corruption seems likely if it yanks the rug
out from under a process that has, say, written part of a
transaction to a database file.
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Re: laser printer - which one?

2007-05-31 Thread perryh
 I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's 
 features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet,
 PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it
 prints slow and well under Windows.

Slow?

I got one of those recently, to replace an old LaserWriter IIf that
seems to have died, and have been using it from a Mac via Ethernet.
It was a drop-in replacement, and much faster.  Someday I will get
around to setting it up on FreeBSD :)
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Re: OT: Re: The worst error message in history belongs to... BIND9!

2007-05-31 Thread perryh
  Favourite worst written error message in history:
  
  Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue. 

 I have always loved this one!! Who made that up!?

Someone at IBM.  That's what the original IBM PC, PC-AT, and
(presumably) PC-XT displayed if the keyboard was dead or not
plugged in.

It was probably a case of modular code:  any problem in POST would
display a message and return a fail status, and the generic code
would append Press F1 to continue. and wait.  Not a bad idea at
all -- certainly better than blindly trying to boot the machine
without giving the operator a chance to decide what to do about
the problem -- but this particular combination does have a chicken-
egg aspect :(
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Re: connecting user root with ssh

2007-05-30 Thread perryh
  you are warned, do not allow SSH to your box with user root at all.
 ...
 Having root logon enabled remotely is just asking for trouble.

The O.P. might be interested in knowing *why* allowing remote root
login is considered unwise:

* The name root is very well known.

* If root can log in remotely, a cracker need only guess root's
  password to obtain root access.

* If root cannot log in remotely, a cracker has to guess three
  things to obtain root access, instead of just one:

  + A valid username which is in the wheel group;
  + That user's password;
  + The root password.

This at least doubles the difficulty of a brute-force attack:
even if a suitable username were obvious, there would still be
two passwords to be cracked.  It can be made even tougher by
having only one username (other than root) in the wheel group,
choosing that name as if it were a password, and not allowing
it to be externally known (e.g. never using it for mail).
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Re: Dell Inspiron 1501 Express PCI slot

2007-05-16 Thread perryh
 Fed Ex delivered a Wistron Neweb CM9 Mini-PCI wireless nic to me
 ...
 U, now I find that it won't fit in the PCI slot in my Dell
 Inspiron 1501 because Dell no longer uses standard sized PCI slots.
 They call them Express PCI slots.

 Does anyone know of an adapter that will mate the one to the other?

In principle, it should be possible to build a PCI-Express
card containing a PCI-Express to PCI bridge chip and one or
more PCI slots.  I have no idea whether such a device is
commercially available.

In practice, the combination might not fit in the box, and/or
the BIOS might not be set up to enumerate a PCI bus downstream
of the PCI-Express bus.
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Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?

2007-04-28 Thread perryh
 OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there
 still isn't a native (Aqua) build.

I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :)
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can't print to disk from Firefox

2007-04-14 Thread perryh
I got an error when trying to print *to disk* from Firefox/1.5.0.6:

  Printer Error

  There was a problem printing because the paper size you specified
  is not supported by your printer.

This message makes no sense at all when printing to disk, since
there's no way for it to know what kind of printer I'll eventually
send the file to.

I am using the only available printer selection, PostScript/default,
and the first paper selection in the list, letterSize (8.5x11 inch);
and that size is certainly available on the printer I intend to use
(which is elsewhere, hence the need to print to disk).  There is no
default paper size selection.

I really don't care what paper size it formats the page for --
that can be fixed later if necessary.  It is the content, not
the formatting, that is important.

It eventually fixed itself after much fumbling and several retries,
but I have no idea what fixed it and I suppose it will probably
unfix itself at some inconvenient time in the future.  How do I fix
it properly and permanently?
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Re: Append only directory ? Is this possible with unix permissions ?

2007-04-11 Thread perryh
Gore Jarold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a user whose home directory I would like to
 make append only.
 ...

As someone else suggested, ACLs are likely the strongest way of
handling this.

On the other hand, if all that is needed is a way to make it a
little tougher for said user to shoot him/herself in the foot,
set noclobber in csh or tcsh might help.
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RESEND: Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006

2007-03-04 Thread perryh
 suggested adding a prompt to sysinstall asking if ppl wanted to
 participate, and the response I heard was that someone basically
 needed to submit a patch ... anyone here know enough about
 sysinstall to do so?

If considering work on sysinstall to improve the stats, how about
fixing some of the pitfalls that drive away prospective new users?
(IOW increase the actual number of installations rather than just
the fraction that get reported.)

Surely it should be possible to avoid lethal messes like a newly-
installed system that has no kernel, or a partitioning that will
not accommodate the set of components selected for installation
(resulting in failure when /usr fills up).

And no, I am not suggesting any substantial change to the overall
look and feel of the UI.  That would be too much work for, at best,
a cosmetic improvement.
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What is an implicit destination

2007-03-04 Thread perryh
I go this auto-response after replying to a message on questions@
a few hours ago:

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but I *am* subscribed!
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Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP

2007-02-26 Thread perryh
  How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook?
  Or do I have to go plain text?

 Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe
 Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box.

*Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook
for use with FreeBSD IMAP.  One hopes something more secure than
plain-text passwords can be made to work.

My answer is Don't use Outlook.  For anything.  Period.
but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason.
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Re: ssh to VMS - terminal problems

2007-02-22 Thread perryh
  yes - VMS only knows about DEC-compatible terminals.  None of
  the *BSD console emulators do well enough to be usable on VMS.
  
  xterm supports ANSI color, VT220 emulation and UTF-8
  There's an faq at
  http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html
  ftp://invisible-island.net/xterm/

Which is fine if one doesn't mind having to fire up X.  Another
possible approach would be to run ports/sysutils/screen, which
should provide a decent VT100 over just about anything with a
terminfo better than dumb or unknown :)

 So, what was pcvt driver designed for? I understood from the man
 pages that it is supposed to be compartible with DEC function keys?

Generating the escape sequences for the DEC function keys is one
thing.  Handling all the escape sequences that VMS throws at it
is another.
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Re: GMail [and other free email] and these lists?

2007-02-15 Thread perryh
   space on my ancient PII.
 
  wow, PII these days..
  is anybody still running on 486? :D

 I am. :P As a small router, I does it's work just fine. :D

I've got a 486 FreeBSD-based GNATbox firewall, temporarily in
retirement until I get around to switching DSL ISPs, but my entry
in the geriatric-hardware-still-in-use dept. is a Sun-3/50, with
SunOS 4.1.1_U1, as UUCP-connected mailhost :)

The Sun has a goofy MTU problem though -- anyone been around long
enough to remember what magic is needed to get one of those to work
properly when talking through a 10Base-T hub?
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Re: backup solution

2007-02-10 Thread perryh
  Then I will install freebsd on the first disk and will
  use the two spare IDE-disks on the same cable as a
  geom-mirror. 
 ...
 Please be aware that the ATA implementation of the VIA EPIA
 chipset isn't the greatest, especially when both are active at
 the same time.  I've seen drive performance drop towards 5MB/s
 for WDC600/WDC800/WDC1200-grade drives which normally run at
 40MB/s if you do something on the other channel as well.

Dunno about that chipset in particular; some will perform much
better with concurrent operations split across the two channels
than on the same channel.  You might be better off to have root
and one of the mirror disks on ide0 and the other mirror disk
on ide1 with the DVD.
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