[MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Gary Kline

This is one for the mail (or config) gurus.  It's one of
several things left.  Can anybody clue me in on howto
configure mySMTP authentication?

What I've done--uncommnting the ^auth line in /etc/inetd.conf
and restarting inetd--doesn't do the job.   

Anybody?

tia, guys,

gary

PS:  I use sendmail at thought.org... if that makes any difference.



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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at magnesium.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

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216.254.0.194 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 553 sorry, relaying denied, please configure SMTP authentication if 
coming from another ISP. See 
http://support.speakeasy.net/cgi-bin/support.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_refno=021016-84
   (#5.7.1)
Giving up on 216.254.0.194.

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Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Gary Kline
Dan Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
  
  This is one for the mail (or config) gurus.  It's one of
  several things left.  Can anybody clue me in on howto configure
  mySMTP authentication?
 
 The error is on speakeasy's end.  You have the following servers listed
 as mail exchangers for thought.org:
 
  $ host -t mx thought.org
  thought.org mail is handled by 10 ns1.thought.org.
  thought.org mail is handled by 10 mail.speakeasy.net.
  thought.org mail is handled by 2 relay1.exodus.net.
 
 Make sure that Speakeasy and Exodus know they they should be backup
 MXes, or else they will bounce your messages.
 

Hm.  Well, relay1.exodus.net is probably bogus.  I asked
Speakeasy (my ISP) and never got a direct answer...
Here on Magesium.net, I do have a clear okay on using 
them as an MX site.

The thing is that when  I used mail.magnesium.net, I got
the same 553 errror.  Also, from

  http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=thought.org

I got a FAIL on the postmaster auth entry.   

I did check out speakeasy.net's web site on this; it mumbled
one like about using sendmail's SASL.  --Sorry, but this is 
seriously out f my league!!  Anybody know what 'SASL' is?
(I just tweaked my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file.  It says::

  Warning: Option: DefaultAuthInfo requires SASL support (-DSASL)
  Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL)

)

gary

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Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Gary Kline
Dan Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
  The thing is that when  I used mail.magnesium.net, I got
  the same 553 errror.  Also, from
  
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=thought.org
  
  I got a FAIL on the postmaster auth entry.   
 
 Same reason.  The FAIL on that page is because mail.speakeasy.net does
 not think it's a MX for thought.org.
 
  I did check out speakeasy.net's web site on this; it mumbled
  one like about using sendmail's SASL.  --Sorry, but this is 
  seriously out f my league!!  Anybody know what 'SASL' is?
  (I just tweaked my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file.  It says::
 
 That's talking about sending outgoing mail, and is to prevent spammers
 from using speakeasy's servers without authentication.  Your problem is
 with incoming mail, and requiring anyone that wants to send you mail to
 use SASL is ridiculous.
 
 Pester Speakeasy and make sure they know you're talking about MXes for
 incoming mail.  Large ISPs usually have different machines dedicated to
 incoming vs outgoing mail.
 


I googled around and added the SASL lines to my ns1*.mc
file.  But sendmail gives me warnings.  I understand Speakeasy's
issues and policy.   Agree that for me, yes, this is 
ridiculous.  

I'm running FBSD-4.3 on my DNS server; 4.7 on tao.thought.org;
before I start bugging Seakeasy, it might be easier to figure
out where the SASL stuff is.  Ideas?

gary



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Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
 
   This is one for the mail (or config) gurus.  It's one of
   several things left.  Can anybody clue me in on howto configure
   mySMTP authentication?

The error is on speakeasy's end.  You have the following servers listed
as mail exchangers for thought.org:

 $ host -t mx thought.org
 thought.org mail is handled by 10 ns1.thought.org.
 thought.org mail is handled by 10 mail.speakeasy.net.
 thought.org mail is handled by 2 relay1.exodus.net.

Make sure that Speakeasy and Exodus know they they should be backup
MXes, or else they will bounce your messages.

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Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
   The thing is that when  I used mail.magnesium.net, I got
   the same 553 errror.  Also, from
 
 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=thought.org
   
   I got a FAIL on the postmaster auth entry.   

Same reason.  The FAIL on that page is because mail.speakeasy.net does
not think it's a MX for thought.org.

   I did check out speakeasy.net's web site on this; it mumbled
   one like about using sendmail's SASL.  --Sorry, but this is 
   seriously out f my league!!  Anybody know what 'SASL' is?
   (I just tweaked my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file.  It says::

That's talking about sending outgoing mail, and is to prevent spammers
from using speakeasy's servers without authentication.  Your problem is
with incoming mail, and requiring anyone that wants to send you mail to
use SASL is ridiculous.

Pester Speakeasy and make sure they know you're talking about MXes for
incoming mail.  Large ISPs usually have different machines dedicated to
incoming vs outgoing mail.

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Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
   I googled around and added the SASL lines to my ns1*.mc
   file.  But sendmail gives me warnings.  I understand Speakeasy's
   issues and policy.   Agree that for me, yes, this is 
   ridiculous.  
 
   I'm running FBSD-4.3 on my DNS server; 4.7 on tao.thought.org;
   before I start bugging Seakeasy, it might be easier to figure
   out where the SASL stuff is.  Ideas?

Don't even bother; it has no bearing on receiving incoming mail, which
is what your current problem is.

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Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]

2002-12-11 Thread Gary Kline
Dan Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
  I googled around and added the SASL lines to my ns1*.mc
  file.  But sendmail gives me warnings.  I understand Speakeasy's
  issues and policy.   Agree that for me, yes, this is 
  ridiculous.  
  
  I'm running FBSD-4.3 on my DNS server; 4.7 on tao.thought.org;
  before I start bugging Seakeasy, it might be easier to figure
  out where the SASL stuff is.  Ideas?
 
 Don't even bother; it has no bearing on receiving incoming mail, which
 is what your current problem is.
 


I poked around into sendmail.org's site further;
you're right.  This is way overkill.  The version
with the sasl libs is a custom version.



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