4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. What I'm I doing wrong here? Thanks, Joel ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. There is your problem right there. You should have selected the full MBR. Then everything would have fallen in place with none of that other fixboot stuff at all. Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') After that, when you boot, it will come up and prompt something like: F1 = Dos F2 = FreeBSD Hit the appropriate function key and it boots. Skip pressing a key and it boots to the system it was most previously in. If you have more than just XP and FreeBSD, such as the machine I am currently typing on has a Dell Maintenance slice, then the function key selection will look a little different, but essentially the same. If your XP is using an NTFS file system the prompt might be ??? as in F1 = ??? (Dell Maintenance) F2 = ??? (XP NTFS slice) F3 = FreeBSD (Obviously, FreeBSD) That can be a little annoying, but can be lived with. If you can't live with it, once you get things all done, you can install a more elaborate boot loader that will allow you to fix up the labels, such as grub. This all works just fine if you just do the right thing and don't try to outguess it. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. Yes, because you did not install the MBR at install time. So, the none effectively only knows how to boot FreeBSD. jerry What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. What I'm I doing wrong here? Thanks, Joel ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
Joel Gudknecht wrote: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. What I'm I doing wrong here? Thanks, Joel ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have to mark BootMgr and not none. I have done the same installation and it worked perfect ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:13:35 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. There is your problem right there. You should have selected the full MBR. Then everything would have fallen in place with none of that other fixboot stuff at all. Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') [snip] Actually, you should choose to install a standard MBR and *not* to use the FreeBSD boot loader in order to accomplish what you describe below. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. Read the following FAQ carefully. If you try it and are unsuccessful, come on back here and let us know what happened. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') [snip] Actually, you should choose to install a standard MBR and *not* to use the FreeBSD boot loader in order to accomplish what you describe Why not choose to use the Boot Loader? Won't it then load the F1/F2 boot menu allowing the user to choose which OS they want to boot? That's the way I have my 4.8/W2K box config'd. HTH, Christopher Hollow Jud wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:13:35 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. There is your problem right there. You should have selected the full MBR. Then everything would have fallen in place with none of that other fixboot stuff at all. Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') [snip] Actually, you should choose to install a standard MBR and *not* to use the FreeBSD boot loader in order to accomplish what you describe below. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. Read the following FAQ carefully. If you try it and are unsuccessful, come on back here and let us know what happened. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:13:35 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. There is your problem right there. You should have selected the full MBR. Then everything would have fallen in place with none of that other fixboot stuff at all. Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') [snip] Actually, you should choose to install a standard MBR and *not* to use the FreeBSD boot loader in order to accomplish what you describe below. You are wrong here. During the install you are offered three options: BootMgr Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager Standard Install a standard MBR (no boot manager) None Leave the Master Boot Record untouched You want to choose the first one to install the FreeBSD Boot Manager The standard boot record will only boot FreeBSD and nothing else. The terminology is a little confusing here, but you want the FreeBSD boot _manager_ not just the standard boot _record_ - two different sector positions on the disk. The boot _manager_ choosed which boot _record_ to start booting with. jerry What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. Read the following FAQ carefully. If you try it and are unsuccessful, come on back here and let us know what happened. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:13:35 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. There is your problem right there. You should have selected the full MBR. Then everything would have fallen in place with none of that other fixboot stuff at all. Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') [snip] Actually, you should choose to install a standard MBR and *not* to use the FreeBSD boot loader in order to accomplish what you describe below. Oops, I see I have perpetuated the terminology confusion by saying the full MBR. It should be the full Boot Manager. Still, it is not the standard MBR nor the None which was the point I was trying to get at. Do we need a terminology housecleaning. It is as bad as slice and partition. jerry What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. Read the following FAQ carefully. If you try it and are unsuccessful, come on back here and let us know what happened. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 08:54:24 -0600 From: Joel Gudknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. [...] Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. I would expect the XP recovery stuff to get you back to XP. I've used that under W2K. But you don't want to get back to XP quite yet... What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. OK. This is from memory of what I did a year or so ago, so consider it an approximate guide. You obviously already know some of it: 1) While you are still in FreeBSD, make a copy of /boot/boot1 on an MS-DOS floppy. 2) Use the FreeBSD fdisk utility to mark the XP partition as the only active partition. That should get you booting into XP. 3) Copy boot1 from FreeBSD into the root XP directory, and edit XP's (hidden) bootloader configuration file to include an entry that points to boot1. While you are at it, give Windows a proper name, such as Windows XP Virus in the boot menu. That should be about it. Details that you will need can mostly be found in an old FAQ that explains how to dual boot FreeBSD and Windows NT somewhere on the FreeBSD site. Like maybe here: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER What I'm I doing wrong here? I don't know why you can't get back to XP with the tools you've tried, but there is no need to install the FreeBSD boot manager. XP's loader is prettier, so you might as well use it, as described above. If you have already installed the FreeBSD boot manager, you might want to write a standard MBR back to the disk and then use the XP loader. Good luck. - Bob Thanks, Joel ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. What I'm I doing wrong here? I just did a dual boot setup with XP and 5.2. I chose none intentionally, installed FreeBSD, then as I was rebooting, put in my GAG disk and installed GAG as my boot loader. It found both my FreeBSD partition and my XP partitions. I set it up, and I can safely boot into either o/s fairly easily. Gag is available on sourceforge. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. What I'm I doing wrong here? I just did a dual boot setup with XP and 5.2. I chose none intentionally, installed FreeBSD, then as I was rebooting, put in my GAG disk and installed GAG as my boot loader. It found both my FreeBSD partition and my XP partitions. I set it up, and I can safely boot into either o/s fairly easily. Gag is available on sourceforge. If you want to use Gag, that's fine. It isn't necessary if you don't mind limited labeling in the Boot Manager prompts. That works fine too. jerry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:31:35 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:13:35 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. There is your problem right there. You should have selected the full MBR. Then everything would have fallen in place with none of that other fixboot stuff at all. Just make sure your XP is fully installed first and boots OK Then install FreeBSD and select the MBR (not 'none' and not 'standard') [snip] Actually, you should choose to install a standard MBR and *not* to use the FreeBSD boot loader in order to accomplish what you describe below. You are wrong here. During the install you are offered three options: BootMgr Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager Standard Install a standard MBR (no boot manager) None Leave the Master Boot Record untouched You want to choose the first one to install the FreeBSD Boot Manager The standard boot record will only boot FreeBSD and nothing else. If the OP had said he wanted to use the FreeBSD boot loader, I would have been wrong to tell him to install the standard MBR. But what he asked for is to use the *NT bootloader* to boot into FreeBSD. (Read what the OP wrote just below my sig.) To do what he asked (use the NT bootloader), rather than what you are intent on telling him (how to use the FreeBSD bootloader), the correct method is to install a standard MBR and then follow the instructions in the FAQ I cited below. Jud What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. Read the following FAQ carefully. If you try it and are unsuccessful, come on back here and let us know what happened. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9-RELEASE + XP Pro problem
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:24, Joel Gudknecht wrote: Hello All, I'm having a hell of a time getting XP Pro and 4.9 on the same drive. I've tried various ways to get them to co-exist to no avail. Here's what I'm trying to accomplish; 30 GB HD total First 24 GB = XP Last 6 GB = 4.9 Installed XP first, then 4.9, said NONE at the boot menu during install. Went to reboot and bsd had taken over either the boot sector or the mbr. Tried xp recovery console, fixmbr, fixboot, nothing worked, bsd continues to boot up by default. What I want is to have the nt boot loader give the choice to boot into bsd by using the boot1 - bootsect.bsd method in boot.ini. What I'm I doing wrong here? What you have done should be fine. But some how the FBSD slice is marked at the bootable slice. In FBSD use fdisk to change the bootable slice to the XP slice, and all should be well. You might find it convenient to first prepare a copy of the required FreeBSD boot sector on a DOS floppy. Don't take too much notice of people babbling on about full BSD boot managers or GAG. Malcolm ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
