Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
> Hi ; > > A general question pls excuse me > > can any body suggest a backup mechanism for a server machine , which has a > web portal , email server ,PgSQL database 4GB size , DNS server, Mailman , > and a mediawiki applications running in a single machine . Sounds like a fairly small server. Should be no problem backing it up. > Can you suggest good solutions , for the server Backup mechanismso that > I can restore all the data just before the crashing moment . Well, if you want just before the crash, you need some kind of mirroring or raid that makes a recoverable copy or stripe of your data. Backups will only restore from the point of the backup. I would suggest mirroring combined with frequent backups - daily. As for the medium, it depends on how much backup you need. Do you need long term archive copies - then use tape. If you only need to restore a recent backup after some catastrophic failure, then probably backing up to a large USB disk would be fine. Use dump/restore to do the backups. Organize your file systems so that stuff that never or rarely changes does not go in to your daily backup and by size so that if possible, one file system can fit on a single recording media - eg tape or disk or whatever. It is possible to have continuation media, but it is nice if you don't have to. jerry > > pls share your expertise , it will help me lot to secure my data in the > server machine .. > > Thanks in Advance > KK > > _ > Live the life in style with MSN Lifestyle. Check out! > http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Default > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Puchar a écrit : > of course, that's why i use rsync, and use cp -lpR to make multiple > generations on backup server every day. i delete the oldest when > there are out of space. > > but gmirror+ggated/c is a good idea for those having more than 1 > server and gigabit interfaces - do mirrorring spanning different > machines (like mirror of first on second, mirror of second - on first). rdiff-backup do all of this and you can also restore a backup of 2 days ago because it also store an history of the backup. Michel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG898ftdSucJnea0gRAnA4AKCqXBHxWUs3o+kHUvLNX7W5EthsQgCfe+WH 8LW1Ju1oHtfGt4F2jpcPKUk= =qDKk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
raid is a good solution for avoiding data loss due to hard disk failure (at different rates depending on the raid type ). But it wont help you if someone accidentally or on purpose delete files. Raid will happily replicate the deletion across all your disks :) of course, that's why i use rsync, and use cp -lpR to make multiple generations on backup server every day. i delete the oldest when there are out of space. but gmirror+ggated/c is a good idea for those having more than 1 server and gigabit interfaces - do mirrorring spanning different machines (like mirror of first on second, mirror of second - on first). PLUS BACKUPS. the server back online" step ;) it's too late by then to realise you should've backed up /etc and /var/ , for example. best to do exclude - instead of include - backup list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:14:25 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can try to create a Mirror using RAID. You can either create a
> > software or a hardware (recommended) managed Mirror. In case of a disk
>
> both are software. while the "software" one you talking about is gmirror -
> very portable and easy to use contrary to BIOS-based "hardware" one.
>
> and with gmirror is very easy to take whole disk snapshot
raid is a good solution for avoiding data loss due to hard disk failure (at
different rates depending on the raid type ). But it wont help you if someone
accidentally or on purpose delete files. Raid will happily replicate the
deletion across all your disks :)
Raid , fail-over solutions and the like go hand in hand with backups, each
case needing it's own analysis : server/s setup, data, frequency of change of
the data, how fast do you want to recover it , budget will (well, should :D )
all affect your final decision.
Whatever path you go down by, make sure you test the "getting the data back and
the server back online" step ;) it's too late by then to realise you should've
backed up /etc and /var/ , for example.
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Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
Hello DharneshK, You can try to create a Mirror using RAID. You can either create a software or a hardware (recommended) managed Mirror. In case of a disk both are software. while the "software" one you talking about is gmirror - very portable and easy to use contrary to BIOS-based "hardware" one. and with gmirror is very easy to take whole disk snapshot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
A general question pls excuse me can any body suggest a backup mechanism for a server machine , which has a web portal , email server ,PgSQL database 4GB size , DNS server, Mailman , and a mediawiki applications running in a single machine . Can you suggest good solutions , for the server Backup mechanismso that I can restore all the data just before the crashing moment . just before is too much. but try rsync ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello DharneshK, You can try to create a Mirror using RAID. You can either create a software or a hardware (recommended) managed Mirror. In case of a disk crash you still have a copy of the updated data on the disk. BTW, please make sure you hit "Reply all" instead of "Reply". this also keeps the freebsd-questions@ updated which will allow others to look into this mail and provide a better answer as well as help future users. Thanks Subhro dhaneshk k sat at his 'pewter and typed on 09/21/07 14:39: > Hi , subhro, > > i agree with you , I need a clarification > > The backup should be the uptodate one , so in case of a disk crash > (permanent crash) I need the backup upto the last moment , so is ther > any cheap tools , to do it , so i can save the backups to another > desktop pc synchronously (I mean any mechanism for backup through > online ie ; ssh OR VPN or like that ) (not manual backing up at each > moment) can you tell the exact solution . > > If I am using rsync , I can only do it by a crontab , even though at a > specfic time only the cron run , if crash occurs after this time then > the data after the cron will lose , so which is the right & cheaper > solution ? > > >> From: Subhro Kar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: dhaneshk k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server >> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:26:55 +0530 >> > Hello, > > dhaneshk k sat at his 'pewter and typed on 09/21/07 13:55: >> Hi ; > >> A general question pls excuse me > >> can any body suggest a backup mechanism for a server machine , which > has >> a web portal , email server ,PgSQL database 4GB size , DNS server, >> Mailman , and a mediawiki applications running in a single machine . > >> Can you suggest good solutions , for the server Backup mechanismso >> that I can restore all the data just before the crashing moment . > >> pls share your expertise , it will help me lot to secure my data in > the >> server machine .. > > If you wish to have 0 downtime then the only option is a separate > failover server. However much you try, if you do not have a separate box > to failover to, it is not possible to do a 0 downtime switchover. > > Regarding the backup solution, you can either buy an external Hard Disk > and back up to it. Alternatively you can back up to tape drives or to > NFS mounted volumes. > > Thanks > Subhro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > _ > Single,planning to marry? Find the right match @ shaadi.com > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=202 __ / The nice thing about Windows is - It \ | does not just crash, it displays a | | dialog box and lets you press 'OK' | \ first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig)/ -- \ ^__^ \ (@@)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG85AFDA+HioTWbkQRAgp1AJ4xZP+I9nblPoI53DTnSDtn+eBq/wCeMxY9 rx1uuX8ycwi3ETlB2hFqTIc= =e3cq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
dhaneshk k wrote: Hi ; A general question pls excuse me can any body suggest a backup mechanism for a server machine , which has a web portal , email server ,PgSQL database 4GB size , DNS server, Mailman , and a mediawiki applications running in a single machine . Can you suggest good solutions , for the server Backup mechanismso that I can restore all the data just before the crashing moment . pls share your expertise , it will help me lot to secure my data in the server machine .. Thanks in Advance KK Check out BackupPC - it will do rsync backups and store them very intelligently on a remote box - you can set it to backup as often as you like ... It saved my ass when my FreeBSD co-lo server disk died - I had a backup up to date as of midnight that let me restore the machine (I back it up over a DSL line without problems) John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, dhaneshk k sat at his 'pewter and typed on 09/21/07 13:55: > Hi ; > > A general question pls excuse me > > can any body suggest a backup mechanism for a server machine , which has > a web portal , email server ,PgSQL database 4GB size , DNS server, > Mailman , and a mediawiki applications running in a single machine . > > Can you suggest good solutions , for the server Backup mechanismso > that I can restore all the data just before the crashing moment . > > pls share your expertise , it will help me lot to secure my data in the > server machine .. If you wish to have 0 downtime then the only option is a separate failover server. However much you try, if you do not have a separate box to failover to, it is not possible to do a 0 downtime switchover. Regarding the backup solution, you can either buy an external Hard Disk and back up to it. Alternatively you can back up to tape drives or to NFS mounted volumes. Thanks Subhro - -- __ / The nice thing about Windows is - It \ | does not just crash, it displays a | | dialog box and lets you press 'OK' | \ first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig)/ -- \ ^__^ \ (@@)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG84dXDA+HioTWbkQRAu2RAKDJMztsQAu2oLuMaKt/vFEvf3YdewCgupn/ eozM9rJAJzKmkTSPSBA4oQc= =8sWc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Cheaper backup mechnism for a server
Hi ; A general question pls excuse me can any body suggest a backup mechanism for a server machine , which has a web portal , email server ,PgSQL database 4GB size , DNS server, Mailman , and a mediawiki applications running in a single machine . Can you suggest good solutions , for the server Backup mechanismso that I can restore all the data just before the crashing moment . pls share your expertise , it will help me lot to secure my data in the server machine .. Thanks in Advance KK _ Live the life in style with MSN Lifestyle. Check out! http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Default ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
