Re: configuring network connection via proxy

2007-05-18 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I included doc@ as I believed that this requirement is quite common and I 
 wondered that the topic wasn't covered in the handbook.

Fair enough assessment at this point. We'll see if we can find a
resolution, then lend it to doc@ if we can.

 What I do in Windows is the following -- I go to Control panel / Internet 
 options / Connections / LAN settings and there you can fill in proxy server 
 address and port.  You can click on Advanced button and specify different 
 proxies for HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, Socks.  This is very similar to Mozilla 
 preferences.  However, IE settings are sort of global and can then be used by 
 majority of modern Windows applications.  Some of them have a choice to 
 either configure them manually or use internet options from IE.

I appreciate your patience and diligence here. However, if I understand
correctly (please tell me if I'm wrong anybody), that configuring these
settings, whether it be in 'Control Panel' Internet Options, or via the
same within IE, you are only configuring a proxy server for any
applications/Internet connections that happen through the IE interface.

Essentially, IE is a looking glass in this scenario. You type
ftp.freebsd.org in your IE browser, and it will tunnel through the proxy
set in the 'Control Panel' settings, because you are in IE. If you were
to fire up 'cmd' at the command line and run 'ftp', or run a third party
FTP application such as IIRC 'CuteFTP', it would not tunnel through what
you think it does.

If I understand correctly what you are trying to do, then AFAIK, you
need to understand beyond the 'Internet Options' of IE, and get into
tunneling and proxying beyond the application layer you are sitting at.
I know no other way to say it.

I have the exact same settings in a default Firefox install on FBSD, and
Windows, as I do IE. Just because you go through control panel, it isn't
any different. IE is so much part of Windows, it may as well be hard
coded in (as a matter of fact, it was, with IE7, they are just starting
to separate it).

 And this is precisely what I would like to achieve on FreeBSD.  To have the 
 ability to turn on using of proxy in one place and not to have go through 
 each application (eg web browser, FTP client, portsnap, cvsup, etc.) and 
 change their settings manually (if possible at all).

What do you do in Windows that you 'think' is going via proxy, that is
done *outside* your Internet Explorer (or any other 'File Manager' type
window), that you can't do in FreeBSD? quote:

- web browser ... Firefox (and all others)
- FTP client ...  there isn't one I can't think of, including FireFTP
plugin for Firefox
- portsnap ... what is a Windows equivalent? (..hrm FTP?)
- cvsup ... same as above (..FTP?)

FreeBSD running X with Firefox will perform the exact same tasks you see
on Windows. You *think* you are getting more features because you go
through the control panel, but that means essentially diddly-squat.

Any number of people here could likely explain how to use a proxy on
FreeBSD, but you are still not getting to the point.

Are you trying to bypass a corporate firewall? Are you trying to hide
information?

With accurate information as to what you are trying to proxy around and
what protocols (applications) you need to put through the proxy, then
any number of solutions can be provided. I'd hate to think you are
relying on a few proxy settings within Windows for something they are
completely not intended for, especially with a misguided understanding.

For instance, I usually run an SSH tunnel from my Windows workstation to
a server out on the Internet, set my web browsers proxy settings up to
point to the localhost, which pushes the web traffic through an
encrypted connection to somewhere on the 'net and out from there. That
is only HTTP traffic at this point though. In this case, I can run
anything I want across such a connection, including, if I were so
inclined, P2P.

 Now, I don't know if this can be achieved somehow with the basic FreeBSD 
 tools

It certainly can.

 or perhaps with some 3rd party application.

These would be called 'ports' or 'packages', but from my understanding
of what you want, are irrelevant.

  Could you advice please ?

My advice is without authority, but I can give what I know ;)

 And sorry for not being clear right in the beginning.

I wouldn't say not clear, just that I didn't tune completely in you
could say.

Steve
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Re: configuring network connection via proxy

2007-05-18 Thread mato
On Fri, 18 May 2007 04:46:33 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote
 
 I appreciate your patience and diligence here. However, if I understand
 correctly (please tell me if I'm wrong anybody), that configuring these
 settings, whether it be in 'Control Panel' Internet Options, or via the
 same within IE, you are only configuring a proxy server for any
 applications/Internet connections that happen through the IE interface.
 
 Essentially, IE is a looking glass in this scenario. You type
 ftp.freebsd.org in your IE browser, and it will tunnel through the proxy
 set in the 'Control Panel' settings, because you are in IE. If you were
 to fire up 'cmd' at the command line and run 'ftp', or run a third party
 FTP application such as IIRC 'CuteFTP', it would not tunnel through what
 you think it does.
 
 If I understand correctly what you are trying to do, then AFAIK, you
 need to understand beyond the 'Internet Options' of IE, and get into
 tunneling and proxying beyond the application layer you are sitting at.
 I know no other way to say it.
 
 I have the exact same settings in a default Firefox install on FBSD, 
 and Windows, as I do IE. Just because you go through control panel,
  it isn't any different. IE is so much part of Windows, it may as 
 well be hard coded in (as a matter of fact, it was, with IE7, they 
 are just starting to separate it).
 

I know what you are trying to explain.  But you really get more with setting 
up proxy in Internet options in Windows (or via IE).  As I said before many 
modern Windows applications, whether from MS or 3rd party, have option to use 
IE connection settings (or do it automatically).  Thus you wouldn't need to 
change proxy settings in each application but it'd be enough to do it in one 
place (Internet options / IE).

  And this is precisely what I would like to achieve on FreeBSD.  To have 
the 
  ability to turn on using of proxy in one place and not to have go through 
  each application (eg web browser, FTP client, portsnap, cvsup, etc.) and 
  change their settings manually (if possible at all).
 
 What do you do in Windows that you 'think' is going via proxy, that 
 is done *outside* your Internet Explorer (or any other 'File 
 Manager' type window), that you can't do in FreeBSD? quote:
 
 - web browser ... Firefox (and all others)
 - FTP client ...  there isn't one I can't think of, including FireFTP
 plugin for Firefox
 - portsnap ... what is a Windows equivalent? (..hrm FTP?)
 - cvsup ... same as above (..FTP?)
 

Yes, and this is the issue.  You need to change your proxy settings in many 
places instead of just one.  So if you have a few applications and must 
change proxy settings often ... :-((

 Are you trying to bypass a corporate firewall? Are you trying to hide
 information?
 
 With accurate information as to what you are trying to proxy around and
 what protocols (applications) you need to put through the proxy, then
 any number of solutions can be provided. I'd hate to think you are
 relying on a few proxy settings within Windows for something they are
 completely not intended for, especially with a misguided understanding.

No.  I'm not trying to bypass anything.
Let's consider HTTP(S) and FTP for the beginning.  I guess I would just need 
to run a local proxy and configure all apps to use this local proxy and then 
only change proxy settings in one place.  Having some sort of transparent 
proxy would be even better as I wouldn't have to reconfigure all apps and I 
would have to run the proxy only if needed.  I know there are some big 
proxies out there but I'm asking for something simple and functional and easy 
to set up.  And this info should be part of the handbook, IMHO.

TIA,

Martin

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Re: configuring network connection via proxy

2007-05-18 Thread RW
On Fri, 18 May 2007 01:04:04 +0200
martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I need to plug my company laptop in to different networks many of
 which make use of some sort of proxy for accessing the internet.  And
 every time I face this challenge of changing connection settings of
 different applications in many places.  This is of course very
 inconvenient.
 
 What I would like to be able to do is to change the connection
 settings regarding a proxy in one place and have it affect all my
 applications. 

The traditional way is through environmental variables, but lot of GUI
applications wont respect them, and it wouldn't work smoothly
without a reboot anyway. 

I would suggest you use some kind of local proxy, either a full
caching http level proxy like squid, or a simple TCP redirection. You
can then point your apps at a localhost port, and just reconfigure the
proxy. Take a look at the www and net ports for proxies.

A lot of applications support automatic proxy discovery, which might be
an alternative.
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configuring network connection via proxy

2007-05-17 Thread martinko
Hello,

I need to plug my company laptop in to different networks many of which
make use of some sort of proxy for accessing the internet.  And every
time I face this challenge of changing connection settings of different
applications in many places.  This is of course very inconvenient.

What I would like to be able to do is to change the connection settings
regarding a proxy in one place and have it affect all my applications.
Something like one can do in MS Windows via Internet Options
(configuring proxy access).  I checked our otherwise great Handbook but
failed to find something covering this scenario.  And I'm surprised as I
expect this to be a rather common need.  Have I missed something ?
Could someone point me to any article covering my need please ?

TIA,

Martin

PS: Yes, I tried to google for this but I wasn't successful or perhaps I
just asked wrong questions. :(

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Re: configuring network connection via proxy

2007-05-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I need to plug my company laptop in to different networks many of which
 make use of some sort of proxy for accessing the internet.  And every
 time I face this challenge of changing connection settings of different
 applications in many places.  This is of course very inconvenient.

I think doc@ was not relevant, so I removed it...

Some 'sort of proxy' is not very descriptive. Can you describe exactly
the procedure you need to go through to access the 'Internet' while
connecting to one of these networks?

Is it as simple as using 'FoxyProxy' plugin with Firefox for instance?
Perhaps you mean that you need to tunnel out of a network into another
and run your Internet applications through that.

More description would be good, especially if you can give exact
examples of what you insert into Internet Options in IE.

 What I would like to be able to do is to change the connection settings
 regarding a proxy in one place and have it affect all my applications.
 Something like one can do in MS Windows via Internet Options
 (configuring proxy access).  I checked our otherwise great Handbook but
 failed to find something covering this scenario.  And I'm surprised as I
 expect this to be a rather common need.  Have I missed something ?
 Could someone point me to any article covering my need please ?

The 'Great Handbook', as great as it is, doesn't cover exactly this.
Provide the settings you use in IE, what Internet browser you use whilst
running under FreeBSD, and what other Internet applications you want to
proxy as per your statement all my applications.

Steve
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Re: Connection via proxy

2005-01-23 Thread Mervin McDougall

--- Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mervin McDougall wrote:
  
  Ummm what do you suggest that I do to get it
 connected
  to the proxy server?
 
 Well obviously you'll need an IP address first.
 Remember the ifconfig you pasted? The netstat -rn?
 You have no IP address 
 assigned to an interface.
 
 Try reading

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/05/13/FreeBSD_Basics.html
 and then the handbook.
 
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after some investigation on my part and reading
through that article you emailed me, I discovered I
was connecting through a DHCP .. so I simply used
sysinstall and reconfigured my ethernet card. Thanks
for all the help guys, I really appreciate it. Now for
some fun :)



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Fwd: Re: Re[8]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-22 Thread Mervin McDougall
I seems that your network is not properbly configured.
Have you verified that the interface you wish to use
is up and has a
valid IP adress. Is the proxy in your subnet or do
you need to use a
gateway to reach it ?

Hexren

maybe consider posting your replies under the original
message as that
will make it so much easier to read the full message
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I have verfied that the interface is up and running
... but not sre if I connect via a subnet or a
gateway. Total noob to this so I am not sure how I can
verify. The only thing I got in my dorm is an RJ45
socket outlet for connecting to the net.

the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the gateway is
146.226.11.1



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Routing tables

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Re: Fwd: Re: Re[8]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-22 Thread Hexren
MM I seems that your network is not properbly configured.
MM Have you verified that the interface you wish to use
MM is up and has a
MM valid IP adress. Is the proxy in your subnet or do
MM you need to use a
MM gateway to reach it ?

MM Hexren

MM maybe consider posting your replies under the original
MM message as that
MM will make it so much easier to read the full message
MM ;)
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MM I have verfied that the interface is up and running
MM ... but not sre if I connect via a subnet or a
MM gateway. Total noob to this so I am not sure how I can
MM verify. The only thing I got in my dorm is an RJ45
MM socket outlet for connecting to the net.

MM the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the gateway is
MM 146.226.11.1



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Re: Fwd: Re: Re[8]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-22 Thread Mervin McDougall

--- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MM I seems that your network is not properbly
 configured.
 MM Have you verified that the interface you wish to
 use
 MM is up and has a
 MM valid IP adress. Is the proxy in your subnet
 or do
 MM you need to use a
 MM gateway to reach it ?
 
 MM Hexren
 
 MM maybe consider posting your replies under the
 original
 MM message as that
 MM will make it so much easier to read the full
 message
 MM ;)
 MM

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 MM I have verfied that the interface is up and
 running
 MM ... but not sre if I connect via a subnet or a
 MM gateway. Total noob to this so I am not sure how
 I can
 MM verify. The only thing I got in my dorm is an
 RJ45
 MM socket outlet for connecting to the net.
 
 MM the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the gateway
 is
 MM 146.226.11.1
 
 
 
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 that is right it is up and running and has no ip
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Ummm what do you suggest that I do to get it connected
to the proxy server?



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Re: Connection via proxy

2005-01-22 Thread Charlie Schluting
Mervin McDougall wrote:
Ummm what do you suggest that I do to get it connected
to the proxy server?
Well obviously you'll need an IP address first.
Remember the ifconfig you pasted? The netstat -rn? You have no IP address 
assigned to an interface.

Try reading http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/05/13/FreeBSD_Basics.html
and then the handbook.
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Re: Re[6]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-20 Thread Mervin McDougall
Unfortunately, I was still not able to ping the proxy
server. I tried pinging by using the name of the
server as well as the IP address but neither were
successful. Are there any preliminary configurations
that should be done prior to connecting to a proxy
server or is it simply a matter of connecting the cat
5 cable to the switch, adding the DNS server addresses
to /etc/resolv.conf, and configuring the web browser
to access the internet?

--- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Mervin McDougall
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
  To: Hexren
  Cc: freebsd questions
  Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
  
  
  tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips
 of
  the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the
 same
  results after trying to run mozilla .. that the
 proxy
  server could not be found.
  
 
 HDA if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
 HDA drop the 'e' off resolve
 
 HDA dave
 
 
 
  --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows
 XP on
   one
   MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
   
   MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got
 this
   error
   MM message
   
   MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look
 up
   failure
   MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy
 server
   
   MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
MM Can you identify some other tests as
 well I
could
MM possible run other than pinging as I am
 going
   to
have
MM to reboot on each occurence to try see
 if
freebsd can
MM see that server and connect to it


 

 -
 
 You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook
 ?
 
 Hexren
 
 



   
 -

Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have
 to
reboot the machine ? Each
time ?
I just wanted to know, if at the point where
   mozilla
says it
can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy
 using
DNS name or IP.

Regards (I really should look up some nice
 way to
finish a mail in
english)

Hexren


   
   
   
   
   
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   I would guess that you haven't configured DNS
 under
   FreeBSD.
   
   
   Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
   (Start-Run type cmd in
   the shell opening type ipconfig /all)
   
   Then insert that DNS server into your
   /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
   The line should look like
   nameserver insert ip of your nameserver
 here
   
   
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 may sound like repetition. But can you ping the ip
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Re[8]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-20 Thread Hexren
MM Unfortunately, I was still not able to ping the proxy
MM server. I tried pinging by using the name of the
MM server as well as the IP address but neither were
MM successful. Are there any preliminary configurations
MM that should be done prior to connecting to a proxy
MM server or is it simply a matter of connecting the cat
MM 5 cable to the switch, adding the DNS server addresses
MM to /etc/resolv.conf, and configuring the web browser
MM to access the internet?

MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Mervin McDougall
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
  To: Hexren
  Cc: freebsd questions
  Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
  
  
  tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips
 of
  the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the
 same
  results after trying to run mozilla .. that the
 proxy
  server could not be found.
  
 
 HDA if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
 HDA drop the 'e' off resolve
 
 HDA dave
 
 
 
  --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows
 XP on
   one
   MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
   
   MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got
 this
   error
   MM message
   
   MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look
 up
   failure
   MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy
 server
   
   MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
MM Can you identify some other tests as
 well I
could
MM possible run other than pinging as I am
 going
   to
have
MM to reboot on each occurence to try see
 if
freebsd can
MM see that server and connect to it


 

 -
 
 You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook
 ?
 
 Hexren
 
 



   
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Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have
 to
reboot the machine ? Each
time ?
I just wanted to know, if at the point where
   mozilla
says it
can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy
 using
DNS name or IP.

Regards (I really should look up some nice
 way to
finish a mail in
english)

Hexren


   
   
   
   
   
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   I would guess that you haven't configured DNS
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   FreeBSD.
   
   
   Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
   (Start-Run type cmd in
   the shell opening type ipconfig /all)
   
   Then insert that DNS server into your
   /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
   The line should look like
   nameserver insert ip of your nameserver
 here
   
   
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I seems that your network is not properbly configured.
Have you verified that the interface you wish to use is up and has a
valid IP adress. Is the proxy in your subnet or do you need to use a
gateway to reach it ?

Hexren

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Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
I recently had internet service enabled in my dorm and
was given instructions on how to configure my web
browser  to connect via the internet via a proxy
server for Windows XP. I was able to successfully set
up the internet connection for a the Windows side of
my dual boot Windows XP/FREEBSD laptop.

Unfortunately I haven't been as successful on the
FreeBSD  side of my laptop. I have tried setting
mozilla to make use of the same proxy settings as I
used for IE on my windows XP but I am repeatedly told
that mozilla can not find the proxy server. 

I am not sure if there is anything else that needs to
be configured to allow me to connect to the intenet
via this proxy server in FreeBSD. Can anyone give a
hand. I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3



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Re: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
Can you identify some other tests as well I could
possible run other than pinging as I am going to have
to reboot on each occurence to try see if freebsd can
see that server and connect to it

--- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MM I recently had internet service enabled in my
 dorm and
 MM was given instructions on how to configure my
 web
 MM browser  to connect via the internet via a proxy
 MM server for Windows XP. I was able to
 successfully set
 MM up the internet connection for a the Windows
 side of
 MM my dual boot Windows XP/FREEBSD laptop.
 
 MM Unfortunately I haven't been as successful on
 the
 MM FreeBSD  side of my laptop. I have tried setting
 MM mozilla to make use of the same proxy settings
 as I
 MM used for IE on my windows XP but I am repeatedly
 told
 MM that mozilla can not find the proxy server. 
 
 MM I am not sure if there is anything else that
 needs to
 MM be configured to allow me to connect to the
 intenet
 MM via this proxy server in FreeBSD. Can anyone
 give a
 MM hand. I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3
 
 
 
 -
 
 You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
 
 Hexren
 
 




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Re[2]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MM Can you identify some other tests as well I could
MM possible run other than pinging as I am going to have
MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if freebsd can
MM see that server and connect to it


 
 -
 
 You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
 
 Hexren
 
 



-

Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to reboot the machine ? Each
time ?
I just wanted to know, if at the point where mozilla says it
can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using DNS name or IP.

Regards (I really should look up some nice way to finish a mail in
english)

Hexren

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Re: Re[2]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on one
slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. 

I tried pinging the proxy server but got this error
message

can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up failure
proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server

--- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MM Can you identify some other tests as well I
 could
 MM possible run other than pinging as I am going to
 have
 MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if
 freebsd can
 MM see that server and connect to it
 
 
  
  -
  
  You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
  
  Hexren
  
  
 
 
 
 -
 
 Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
 reboot the machine ? Each
 time ?
 I just wanted to know, if at the point where mozilla
 says it
 can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
 DNS name or IP.
 
 Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
 finish a mail in
 english)
 
 Hexren
 
 





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Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on one
MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. 

MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got this error
MM message

MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up failure
MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server

MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MM Can you identify some other tests as well I
 could
 MM possible run other than pinging as I am going to
 have
 MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if
 freebsd can
 MM see that server and connect to it
 
 
  
  -
  
  You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
  
  Hexren
  
  
 
 
 
 -
 
 Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
 reboot the machine ? Each
 time ?
 I just wanted to know, if at the point where mozilla
 says it
 can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
 DNS name or IP.
 
 Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
 finish a mail in
 english)
 
 Hexren
 
 





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I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under FreeBSD.


Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP. (Start-Run type cmd in
the shell opening type ipconfig /all)

Then insert that DNS server into your /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
The line should look like
nameserver insert ip of your nameserver here


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Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips of
the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the same
results after trying to run mozilla .. that the proxy
server could not be found.

--- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on
 one
 MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. 
 
 MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got this
 error
 MM message
 
 MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up
 failure
 MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server
 
 MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  MM Can you identify some other tests as well I
  could
  MM possible run other than pinging as I am going
 to
  have
  MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if
  freebsd can
  MM see that server and connect to it
  
  
   
   -
   
   You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
   
   Hexren
   
   
  
  
  
  -
  
  Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
  reboot the machine ? Each
  time ?
  I just wanted to know, if at the point where
 mozilla
  says it
  can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
  DNS name or IP.
  
  Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
  finish a mail in
  english)
  
  Hexren
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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 I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under
 FreeBSD.
 
 
 Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
 (Start-Run type cmd in
 the shell opening type ipconfig /all)
 
 Then insert that DNS server into your
 /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
 The line should look like
 nameserver insert ip of your nameserver here
 
 
 Hexren
 
 





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RE: Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hauan David A
 -Original Message-
 From: Mervin McDougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
 To: Hexren
 Cc: freebsd questions
 Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
 
 
 tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips of
 the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the same
 results after trying to run mozilla .. that the proxy
 server could not be found.
 

if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
drop the 'e' off resolve

dave



 --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on
  one
  MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
  
  MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got this
  error
  MM message
  
  MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up
  failure
  MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server
  
  MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   MM Can you identify some other tests as well I
   could
   MM possible run other than pinging as I am going
  to
   have
   MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if
   freebsd can
   MM see that server and connect to it
   
   

-

You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?

Hexren


   
   
   
   -
   
   Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
   reboot the machine ? Each
   time ?
   I just wanted to know, if at the point where
  mozilla
   says it
   can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
   DNS name or IP.
   
   Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
   finish a mail in
   english)
   
   Hexren
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
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  I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under
  FreeBSD.
  
  
  Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
  (Start-Run type cmd in
  the shell opening type ipconfig /all)
  
  Then insert that DNS server into your
  /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
  The line should look like
  nameserver insert ip of your nameserver here
  
  
  Hexren
  
  
 
 
 
   
   
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RE: Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
sorry that was a typo, I updated /etc/resolv.conf and
it still did not work. Is there anything else that I
need to configure?

--- Hauan David A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Mervin McDougall
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
  To: Hexren
  Cc: freebsd questions
  Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
  
  
  tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips
 of
  the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the
 same
  results after trying to run mozilla .. that the
 proxy
  server could not be found.
  
 
 if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
 drop the 'e' off resolve
 
 dave
 
 
 
  --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP
 on
   one
   MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
   
   MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got
 this
   error
   MM message
   
   MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look
 up
   failure
   MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy
 server
   
   MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
MM Can you identify some other tests as well
 I
could
MM possible run other than pinging as I am
 going
   to
have
MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if
freebsd can
MM see that server and connect to it


 

 -
 
 You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
 
 Hexren
 
 



-

Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have
 to
reboot the machine ? Each
time ?
I just wanted to know, if at the point where
   mozilla
says it
can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy
 using
DNS name or IP.

Regards (I really should look up some nice
 way to
finish a mail in
english)

Hexren


   
   
   
   
   
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   I would guess that you haven't configured DNS
 under
   FreeBSD.
   
   
   Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
   (Start-Run type cmd in
   the shell opening type ipconfig /all)
   
   Then insert that DNS server into your
   /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
   The line should look like
   nameserver insert ip of your nameserver here
   
   
   Hexren
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
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Re[6]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
 -Original Message-
 From: Mervin McDougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
 To: Hexren
 Cc: freebsd questions
 Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
 
 
 tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips of
 the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the same
 results after trying to run mozilla .. that the proxy
 server could not be found.
 

HDA if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
HDA drop the 'e' off resolve

HDA dave



 --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  MM the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on
  one
  MM slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
  
  MM I tried pinging the proxy server but got this
  error
  MM message
  
  MM can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up
  failure
  MM proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server
  
  MM --- Hexren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   MM Can you identify some other tests as well I
   could
   MM possible run other than pinging as I am going
  to
   have
   MM to reboot on each occurence to try see if
   freebsd can
   MM see that server and connect to it
   
   

-

You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?

Hexren


   
   
   
   -
   
   Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
   reboot the machine ? Each
   time ?
   I just wanted to know, if at the point where
  mozilla
   says it
   can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
   DNS name or IP.
   
   Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
   finish a mail in
   english)
   
   Hexren
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
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  I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under
  FreeBSD.
  
  
  Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
  (Start-Run type cmd in
  the shell opening type ipconfig /all)
  
  Then insert that DNS server into your
  /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
  The line should look like
  nameserver insert ip of your nameserver here
  
  
  Hexren
  
  
 
 
 
   
   
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may sound like repetition. But can you ping the ip of the nameserver ?

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Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-15 Thread tjlists
 Timothy Luoma wrote:

 I cannot get high speed internet access at home.  In fact, I can't get
 more than about 26400 on my dialup.

 That sux

Yup, especially after several years of having cable access @ our previous
house/apartment.


 Anything else I could do to speed things up?

 ISDN? Direct TV? Cable? DSL?

DSL = too far from the local hub

ISDN = doubtful

Cable = possibly this fall.  Our cable company was bought by a new company
which says that it is dedicated to expanding rural coverage (it ends about
a mile from our house, I think).

DirecTV = Had DirecWay installed for less than a month.  They wanted
$60/month, a Windows OS, no wireless (I understand that they have since
come out with a way to overcome those two limitations).. but the bottom
line is that it was really not much faster than dialup for regular
browsing.  For downloading a file, yes; but when you went somewhere like
Amazon.com with a lot of images and other external files, it really slowed
down (this was 2 way satellite, no phone line.  We had it uninstalled
before 30 days so we could get our money back ... except the $180
installation fee :-/

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Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-14 Thread Chris
Timothy Luoma wrote:
I cannot get high speed internet access at home.  In fact, I can't get 
more than about 26400 on my dialup.
That sux
My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3).
I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would 
speed downloads up any.  If so, what would be a good proxy to use?
No - you are at the mercy of the modem.
Anything else I could do to speed things up?
ISDN? Direct TV? Cable? DSL?
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Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-14 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 14), Timothy Luoma said:
 I cannot get high speed internet access at home.  In fact, I can't
 get more than about 26400 on my dialup.
 
 My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3).
 
 I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would
 speed downloads up any.  If so, what would be a good proxy to use?

A local proxy won't help you any more than simply cranking up your
browser cache.

 Anything else I could do to speed things up?

If you have access to a faster machine at the other end of your dialup
link, you can run something like Rabbit (
http:/rabbit-proxy.sourceforge.net ), which will compress your images
and web pages before sending them to you and your slow link.

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Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-14 Thread John
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:54:23PM -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote:
 
 I cannot get high speed internet access at home.  In fact, I can't get 
 more than about 26400 on my dialup.
 
 My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3).
 
 I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would 
 speed downloads up any.  If so, what would be a good proxy to use?

A proxy can help only if you have a situation where you expect local
machines to each load the same pages - then the proxy can cache and
serve them on your local network rather than going back across your
outside link.  It won't do anything to help the original fetch of
the information, unfortunately.

 Anything else I could do to speed things up?

Modern modems are already doing some pretty sophisticated compression
techniques.  They do all sorts of things to try to get as much
across the line as possible.  They actually transfer data in
synchronous blocks to skip over the start and stop bits and then
reconstitute the asynchronous stream on the serial port side.

About all you can do is to find anything within your control that
is reducing the quality of the signal your modem can see (make
sure that all your wiring from the point of demarcation is new,
solid, and away from noise sources - like, not wrapped around
flourescent light fixture and things).

Other than that, I can't think of anything...

 TjL
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Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-14 Thread Timothy Luoma
I cannot get high speed internet access at home.  In fact, I can't get 
more than about 26400 on my dialup.

My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3).
I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would 
speed downloads up any.  If so, what would be a good proxy to use?

Anything else I could do to speed things up?
TjL
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Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
Timothy Luoma wrote:
[ ... ]
I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would 
speed downloads up any.  If so, what would be a good proxy to use?

Anything else I could do to speed things up?
Squid is a good proxy, and it can be smarter about caching and using 
If-Modified-Since refresh queries to check data, but it is not going to give a 
magical improvement over a browser's cache.

It might also help somewhat to run a caching-only nameserver on your host and 
forward all queries to your ISP's nameservers.

Disable image autoload in your browser, and/or block .swf.
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Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-14 Thread Timothy Luoma
[two replies in one]
On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Dan Nelson wrote:
A local proxy won't help you any more than simply cranking up your
browser cache.
rats.  I was thinking that if it was coming from one traceroute hop 
away would be faster than from however many hops the other sites would 
be.

Cache is fully tweaked (I use Opera on the Mac, which has really good 
cache settings).

Anything else I could do to speed things up?
If you have access to a faster machine at the other end of your dialup
link, you can run something like Rabbit (
http:/rabbit-proxy.sourceforge.net ), which will compress your images
and web pages before sending them to you and your slow link.
Ah, now that's a thought.  (My old ISP wanted $5/month for that :-)
Unfortunately  I don't see a port and 'make' failed rather 
unspectacularly

$ make
Error expanding embedded variable.
and Google was no help :-/
On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:27 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
It might also help somewhat to run a caching-only nameserver on your 
host and forward all queries to your ISP's nameservers.
That's an idea, although it's thinking above my pay scale at this point.
Disable image autoload in your browser, and/or block .swf.
Done and done (also easy with Opera).
Thanks
TjL
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