Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-22 Thread Michael David Crawford



VIMAGE and jails are OS-level virtualization, orthogonal to Xen.


I want to run Xen so I can build and test Ogg Frog[1] on each of the 
target platforms I plan to support.  I built a fancy Xeon box so that I 
could even build and test on all the platforms simultaneously.


I also operate a couple Internet servers, which are themselves Xen DomUs 
at commercial Xen Virtual Private Server hosting services.


I'd like to place each service that they operate into a jail, so that if 
someone manages to bust in because of a security hole in one of the 
server programs, they would only be able to get at the contents of that 
particular jail.


But all of the jails are just subdivisions of a single operating system; 
I can't run other OSes within them.


[1] http://www.oggfrog.com/free-music-software/
No, there is nothing to download yet.  Real Soon Now.

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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-22 Thread Kip Macy
 You can use microkernels[1] for almost the same thing. It's what we do
 at Technische Universität Dresden.

 Regards,
 --
 Julian Stecklina

 The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day
 they start making vacuum cleaners - Ernst Jan Plugge

 Footnotes:
 [1]  There is a sexy new microhypervisor to be released Real Soon
     Now(tm) too:
     http://eurosys09dw.systems.ethz.ch/steinberg.pdf


Based on L4Linux, I believe that the amount of work required for
porting a PV OS is much less than creating a new personality for a
microkernel. That said, isn't a hypervisor really a microkernel with
device and virtual memory abstraction API?

Cheers,
Kip
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-22 Thread Julian Stecklina
Peter Jeremy peterjer...@optushome.com.au writes:

 On 2009-May-20 08:30:09 +0800, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote:
Xen also lets you write other OSes without needing to care about the
hardware. One of my friends bootstrapped a toy OS of his inside Xen.
He can then run it on any and all Xen boxes, unmodified, regardless of
the underlying hardware. That really hasn't been exploited to its full
potential though.

 This isn't a particularly new idea: The 'CMS' part of IBM VM/CMS was a
 hypervisor-aware OS that couldn't run on bare metal.

 Relying on the hypervisor for some traditional OS services offers
 plenty of scope for interesting developments.  One area would be in
 University Operating Systems courses - it would again be possible to
 offer practical coursework on operating systems that are comprehendable
 in their entirety (ala V6 and Minix).

You can use microkernels[1] for almost the same thing. It's what we do
at Technische Universität Dresden.

Regards,
-- 
Julian Stecklina

The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day
they start making vacuum cleaners - Ernst Jan Plugge

Footnotes: 
[1]  There is a sexy new microhypervisor to be released Real Soon
 Now(tm) too:
 http://eurosys09dw.systems.ethz.ch/steinberg.pdf

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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-22 Thread Julian Stecklina
Kip Macy km...@freebsd.org writes:

 Based on L4Linux, I believe that the amount of work required for
 porting a PV OS is much less than creating a new personality for a
 microkernel. That said, isn't a hypervisor really a microkernel with
 device and virtual memory abstraction API?

OS personalities were a promise that was always brought up with
microkernels, but never really delivered. Although, L4Linux could be
seen as Linux personality for L4. The nice thing about microkernels is
that they abstract enough of the underlying hardware to be open for a
lot of experimenting. I think this is quite nice for student projects.

On the microkernel vs. hypervisor topic: L4 has a very nice virtual
memory abstraction and you can build device abstraction quite easily on
top of it. If you only want paravirtualization, L4 could have delivered
that years before Xen did. And actually it did: L4Linux exists for quite
some time and I believe that there was also a paper on live migration of
L4Linux instances way before Xen did that. IMHO given some commercial
support (and some foresight), L4 could have been the better Xen.

Regards,
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-21 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-May-20 08:30:09 +0800, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote:
Xen also lets you write other OSes without needing to care about the
hardware. One of my friends bootstrapped a toy OS of his inside Xen.
He can then run it on any and all Xen boxes, unmodified, regardless of
the underlying hardware. That really hasn't been exploited to its full
potential though.

This isn't a particularly new idea: The 'CMS' part of IBM VM/CMS was a
hypervisor-aware OS that couldn't run on bare metal.

Relying on the hypervisor for some traditional OS services offers
plenty of scope for interesting developments.  One area would be in
University Operating Systems courses - it would again be possible to
offer practical coursework on operating systems that are comprehendable
in their entirety (ala V6 and Minix).

-- 
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Ivan Voras
2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:

  . is dom0 support something that FreeBSD will target at some
   point in time or would be happy to be domU ?

I cannot speak for the developers but at BSDCan it was stated that
dom0 would be a large chunk of job that deserves funding. The
developers are interested.

  . there was some mention of vimage/bitvisor in one of the
   slides (i think on scribd.com). So, is it that jails getting
   extended to support virtualization+containers and thus a
   entirely different approach which does not use Xen ?

VIMAGE and jails are OS-level virtualization, orthogonal to Xen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization

  . is it envisaged that a stable NetBSD dom0 implementation
   would then be ported to FreeBSD (maybe) ?

Probably not - the systems are too different now.
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Scott Bennett
 [Nota Bene--Cc: list trimmed!  --SB]
 On Tue, 19 May 2009 09:56:54 + (GMT) Saifi Khan
saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:

 I don't think there's any support for Dom0 stuff in FreeBSD.
 
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen has further information about what
 is and isn't supported at this time.
 
 Adrian
 
 2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:
  On Mon, 18 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 
  I've started documenting (mostly for my own memory for now!) my
  experiences getting a working FreeBSD-current Xen environment
  together.
 
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/XenHackery
 
  Notable bits: pygrub works. :)
 
  Adrian
 
  Hi:
 
  What is the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen
  3.3.x ?
 
  My interest is to run multiple guest OS hosted on a Xen-ified
  (aka paravirtualized) FreeBSD 8.x on a multi-core intel or AMD64
  box.
 
  Any pointers or observations ?
 

Hi Adrian:

Thank you for the clarification about no dom0 support in 
FreeBSD 8.x as of now. 

Yes, i did visit the wiki link couple of months ago and in fact
dropped a mail to Kip as well :) there was no response, guess he
was busy.

i'd be thankful, if you could share your observations about the
following:

 . is dom0 support something that FreeBSD will target at some
   point in time or would be happy to be domU ?

 . there was some mention of vimage/bitvisor in one of the
   slides (i think on scribd.com). So, is it that jails getting
   extended to support virtualization+containers and thus a
   entirely different approach which does not use Xen ?

 . is it envisaged that a stable NetBSD dom0 implementation 
   would then be ported to FreeBSD (maybe) ?

 If you just need versatile emulation for i386- amd64-based software and
not necessarily Xen, you might check the threads in -ports@ during the last
week or two about Sun's VirtualBox package.  The FreeBSD port is being beta-
tested at present, and many testers are saying it appears to work pretty well
already.  My guess is that the porters will get it committed to the ports
tree fairly soon.


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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Saifi Khan
On Tue, 19 May 2009, Scott Bennett wrote:

  [Nota Bene--Cc: list trimmed!  --SB]
  On Tue, 19 May 2009 09:56:54 + (GMT) Saifi Khan
 saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote:
 On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 
  I don't think there's any support for Dom0 stuff in FreeBSD.
  
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen has further information about what
  is and isn't supported at this time.
  
  Adrian
  
  2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:
   On Mon, 18 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:
  
   I've started documenting (mostly for my own memory for now!) my
   experiences getting a working FreeBSD-current Xen environment
   together.
  
   http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/XenHackery
  
   Notable bits: pygrub works. :)
  
   Adrian
  
   Hi:
  
   What is the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen
   3.3.x ?
  
   My interest is to run multiple guest OS hosted on a Xen-ified
   (aka paravirtualized) FreeBSD 8.x on a multi-core intel or AMD64
   box.
  
   Any pointers or observations ?
  
 
 Hi Adrian:
 
 Thank you for the clarification about no dom0 support in 
 FreeBSD 8.x as of now. 
 
 Yes, i did visit the wiki link couple of months ago and in fact
 dropped a mail to Kip as well :) there was no response, guess he
 was busy.
 
 i'd be thankful, if you could share your observations about the
 following:
 
  . is dom0 support something that FreeBSD will target at some
point in time or would be happy to be domU ?
 
  . there was some mention of vimage/bitvisor in one of the
slides (i think on scribd.com). So, is it that jails getting
extended to support virtualization+containers and thus a
entirely different approach which does not use Xen ?
 
  . is it envisaged that a stable NetBSD dom0 implementation 
would then be ported to FreeBSD (maybe) ?
 
  If you just need versatile emulation for i386- amd64-based software and
 not necessarily Xen, you might check the threads in -ports@ during the last
 week or two about Sun's VirtualBox package.  The FreeBSD port is being beta-
 tested at present, and many testers are saying it appears to work pretty well
 already.  My guess is that the porters will get it committed to the ports
 tree fairly soon.
 

What i intend to do is this:

1. capability to run FreeBSD as dom0 with Xen.
2. setup and run Eucalyptus in an OS (linux, solaricle, BSD) hosted as domU.
3. run SaaS (storage as a service) solutions leveraged on BSD.
4. develop VMM orchestration solution.
5. Package the entire stuff.
6. Interested folks can build services/solutions on top of this
   infrastructure.

Legal
1-6 is all Open Source some BSD 2.0 and most of it ASL 2.0.

Open Source infrastructure leveraged on FreeBSD powers the cloud !


thanks
Saifi.
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Saifi Khan
On Tue, 19 May 2009, Scott Bennett wrote:

  [Nota Bene--Cc: list trimmed!  --SB]
  On Tue, 19 May 2009 09:56:54 + (GMT) Saifi Khan
 saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote:
 On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 
  I don't think there's any support for Dom0 stuff in FreeBSD.
  
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen has further information about what
  is and isn't supported at this time.
  
  Adrian
  
  2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:
   On Mon, 18 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:
  
   I've started documenting (mostly for my own memory for now!) my
   experiences getting a working FreeBSD-current Xen environment
   together.
  
   http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/XenHackery
  
   Notable bits: pygrub works. :)
  
   Adrian
  
   Hi:
  
   What is the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen
   3.3.x ?
  
   My interest is to run multiple guest OS hosted on a Xen-ified
   (aka paravirtualized) FreeBSD 8.x on a multi-core intel or AMD64
   box.
  
   Any pointers or observations ?
  
 
 Hi Adrian:
 
 Thank you for the clarification about no dom0 support in 
 FreeBSD 8.x as of now. 
 
 Yes, i did visit the wiki link couple of months ago and in fact
 dropped a mail to Kip as well :) there was no response, guess he
 was busy.
 
 i'd be thankful, if you could share your observations about the
 following:
 
  . is dom0 support something that FreeBSD will target at some
point in time or would be happy to be domU ?
 
  . there was some mention of vimage/bitvisor in one of the
slides (i think on scribd.com). So, is it that jails getting
extended to support virtualization+containers and thus a
entirely different approach which does not use Xen ?
 
  . is it envisaged that a stable NetBSD dom0 implementation 
would then be ported to FreeBSD (maybe) ?
 
  If you just need versatile emulation for i386- amd64-based software and
 not necessarily Xen, you might check the threads in -ports@ during the last
 week or two about Sun's VirtualBox package.  The FreeBSD port is being beta-
 tested at present, and many testers are saying it appears to work pretty well
 already.  My guess is that the porters will get it committed to the ports
 tree fairly soon.
 

What i intend to do is this:

1. capability to run FreeBSD as dom0 with Xen.
2. setup and run Eucalyptus on FreeBSD/dom0
3. run SaaS (storage as a service) solutions leveraged on BSD.
4. develop VMM orchestration solution.
5. Package the entire stuff.
6. Interested folks can build services/solutions on top of this
   infrastructure.

Legal
1-6 is all Open Source some BSD 2.0 and most of it ASL 2.0.

Open Source infrastructure leveraged on FreeBSD powers the cloud !


thanks
Saifi.
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:

  . is dom0 support something that FreeBSD will target at some
   point in time or would be happy to be domU ?

If Kip (and other Xen-clueful people get funding) - and there's time -
then I bet so.

  . there was some mention of vimage/bitvisor in one of the
   slides (i think on scribd.com). So, is it that jails getting
   extended to support virtualization+containers and thus a
   entirely different approach which does not use Xen ?

These solve different problem sets. :)

People seem to think virtualisation is virtualisation. It isn't.
It depends on what kind(s) of problems you're trying to solve. Xen
solves a certain set of virtualisation problems.

  . is it envisaged that a stable NetBSD dom0 implementation
   would then be ported to FreeBSD (maybe) ?

No idea. Is it stable? :)

Personally, I'd prefer to see the FreeBSD DomU stuff 100% bulletproof
and documented before more stuff is hacked on, but as I said before,
I'm just interested in getting the current pieces into some kind of
documented shape; I'm not hacking on Xen by any stretch of the
imagination!



Adrian
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Saifi Khan
On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:

 
 People seem to think virtualisation is virtualisation. It isn't.
 It depends on what kind(s) of problems you're trying to solve. Xen
 solves a certain set of virtualisation problems.
 

Could you please share 'your insight' on the 
'set of virtualization problems' that Xen solves ?


thanks
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
2009/5/20 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:

 Could you please share 'your insight' on the
 'set of virtualization problems' that Xen solves ?

Xen lets you run multiple versions of modified OSes on the same box.
Each OS for the most part can treat its small pool of resources as its
own. It hides the underlying hardware from the virtual domain
(although its apparently quite popular to break out bits of hardware
to appear in the virtual domain.)

The Xen paravirtualisation stuff in -theory- should be more
lightweight than full hardware virtualisation and it should perform
better. In practice? That's very much workload dependant.

Xen also lets you write other OSes without needing to care about the
hardware. One of my friends bootstrapped a toy OS of his inside Xen.
He can then run it on any and all Xen boxes, unmodified, regardless of
the underlying hardware. That really hasn't been exploited to its full
potential though.



Adrian
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-18 Thread Saifi Khan
On Mon, 18 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:

 I've started documenting (mostly for my own memory for now!) my
 experiences getting a working FreeBSD-current Xen environment
 together.
 
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/XenHackery
 
 Notable bits: pygrub works. :)
 
 Adrian

Hi:

What is the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen
3.3.x ?

My interest is to run multiple guest OS hosted on a Xen-ified
(aka paravirtualized) FreeBSD 8.x on a multi-core intel or AMD64
box.

Any pointers or observations ?


thanks
Saifi.
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-18 Thread Adrian Chadd
I don't think there's any support for Dom0 stuff in FreeBSD.

http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen has further information about what
is and isn't supported at this time.



Adrian

2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:
 On Mon, 18 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:

 I've started documenting (mostly for my own memory for now!) my
 experiences getting a working FreeBSD-current Xen environment
 together.

 http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/XenHackery

 Notable bits: pygrub works. :)

 Adrian

 Hi:

 What is the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen
 3.3.x ?

 My interest is to run multiple guest OS hosted on a Xen-ified
 (aka paravirtualized) FreeBSD 8.x on a multi-core intel or AMD64
 box.

 Any pointers or observations ?


 thanks
 Saifi.
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Re: My FreeBSD-current/Xen install notes

2009-05-18 Thread Saifi Khan
On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:

 I don't think there's any support for Dom0 stuff in FreeBSD.
 
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen has further information about what
 is and isn't supported at this time.
 
 Adrian
 
 2009/5/19 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:
  On Mon, 18 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 
  I've started documenting (mostly for my own memory for now!) my
  experiences getting a working FreeBSD-current Xen environment
  together.
 
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/AdrianChadd/XenHackery
 
  Notable bits: pygrub works. :)
 
  Adrian
 
  Hi:
 
  What is the extent of Dom0 support for FreeBSD 8.x with Xen
  3.3.x ?
 
  My interest is to run multiple guest OS hosted on a Xen-ified
  (aka paravirtualized) FreeBSD 8.x on a multi-core intel or AMD64
  box.
 
  Any pointers or observations ?
 

Hi Adrian:

Thank you for the clarification about no dom0 support in 
FreeBSD 8.x as of now. 

Yes, i did visit the wiki link couple of months ago and in fact
dropped a mail to Kip as well :) there was no response, guess he
was busy.

i'd be thankful, if you could share your observations about the
following:

 . is dom0 support something that FreeBSD will target at some
   point in time or would be happy to be domU ?

 . there was some mention of vimage/bitvisor in one of the
   slides (i think on scribd.com). So, is it that jails getting
   extended to support virtualization+containers and thus a
   entirely different approach which does not use Xen ?

 . is it envisaged that a stable NetBSD dom0 implementation 
   would then be ported to FreeBSD (maybe) ?

Thank you for your time.

thanks
Saifi.
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FreeBSD and Xen in paravirtualized mode

2009-03-02 Thread Redd Vinylene
Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen in paravirtualized mode? Imagine the
increase in ISPs being able to offer FreeBSD to its customers.

I just got my heart broken today:
http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=3191/

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Re: FreeBSD and Xen in paravirtualized mode

2009-03-02 Thread Ivan Voras
Redd Vinylene wrote:
 Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen in paravirtualized mode? Imagine the
 increase in ISPs being able to offer FreeBSD to its customers.
 
 I just got my heart broken today:
 http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=3191/

Perhaps you could help fund the development of FreeBSD support for Xen?

AFAIK lack of funding is what's keeping the development slow, though it
does go on: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen




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Re: FreeBSD and Xen in paravirtualized mode

2009-03-02 Thread Outback Dingo
see http://www.rootbsd.net   slicehost is uhmmm well i wount comment.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Redd Vinylene wrote:
  Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen in paravirtualized mode? Imagine the
  increase in ISPs being able to offer FreeBSD to its customers.
 
  I just got my heart broken today:
  http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=3191/

 Perhaps you could help fund the development of FreeBSD support for Xen?

 AFAIK lack of funding is what's keeping the development slow, though it
 does go on: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen



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Re: Need FreeBSD 7.0 XEN-KERNEL

2008-08-11 Thread Cagri Ersen
Thanks mate,
If i need that FS files, i can give you a ftp accunt.

BTW, My XEN server is installed on Fedora 8.0. And i need 3 FreeBSD as a
guest OS for production. That servers will be a qmail cluster with 2
qmail/vpopmail and a NFS storage server for mail servers.

Can you tell me your opinion about this condition ?

Thanks again.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 heres three kernels working and my config, i also have 4, 8 and 16GB file
 systems ready to roll, compressed they run 70+Megs each, if you want them i

 need a place to drop em, good luck though, paravirtualized is good for
 maybe
 light dev work, not production, hypervised under linux KVM both 7 and
 CURRENT
 work fine

 On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Cagri Ersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi list,
 I want to install a FreeBSD 7.0 on a XEN Server as (para-virtualize) domU.
 There is an installation document on FreeBSD handbook (
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/virtualization-guest.html)
 However,
 the link is broken on the page which is for downloading the kernel file.

 So, where can i get that file ?

 Thanks for help.
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Re: Need FreeBSD 7.0 XEN-KERNEL

2008-08-11 Thread OutBackDingo
I would only attempot this in Hypervisor mode where FreeBSD runs fine stock
I dont think paravirtualized XEN FreeBSD instances are ready for production. 
Though I can assure you running FreeBSD 7 and CUURENt under linux KVM works 
fine, i have 13 hosts on two HVM capable systems under Ubuntu

On Monday 11 August 2008 14:04:32 Cagri Ersen wrote:
 Thanks mate,
 If i need that FS files, i can give you a ftp accunt.

 BTW, My XEN server is installed on Fedora 8.0. And i need 3 FreeBSD as a
 guest OS for production. That servers will be a qmail cluster with 2
 qmail/vpopmail and a NFS storage server for mail servers.

 Can you tell me your opinion about this condition ?

 Thanks again.

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Need FreeBSD 7.0 XEN-KERNEL

2008-08-10 Thread Cagri Ersen
Hi list,
I want to install a FreeBSD 7.0 on a XEN Server as (para-virtualize) domU.
There is an installation document on FreeBSD handbook (
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/virtualization-guest.html)
However,
the link is broken on the page which is for downloading the kernel file.

So, where can i get that file ?

Thanks for help.
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Re: Need FreeBSD 7.0 XEN-KERNEL

2008-08-10 Thread Gueven Bay
 Hi list,
 I want to install a FreeBSD 7.0 on a XEN Server as (para-virtualize) domU.
 There is an installation document on FreeBSD handbook (
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/virtualization-guest.html)
 However,
 the link is broken on the page which is for downloading the kernel file.
 So, where can i get that file ?

Yesterday I asked for an explanation about a howto to build a XEN
kernel file. This would be better because with an explanation noone
needs a download address anymore.
Unfortunately noone answered.
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FreeBSD on xen?

2008-04-24 Thread Roberto Nunnari

Hi!

Is anybody successfully running FreeBSD on xen?

xen docs doesn't talk about support for FreeBSD..
Only Linux and Windows! The doc says the Guest
operating system must be aware on running virtualized!
Does FreeBSD supports it?

What if the HW supports Intel's VT / AMD's AMD-V ?
Will this make it possible to have FreeBDS as a Guest OS?

Any comment welcome.
Thank you.

Best regards.

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Re: FreeBSD on xen?

2008-04-24 Thread Sébastien Morand
  xen docs doesn't talk about support for FreeBSD..
  Only Linux and Windows! The doc says the Guest
  operating system must be aware on running virtualized!
  Does FreeBSD supports it?

Have you looked at this:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen

Hope it helps,

Sebastien
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Re: FreeBSD on xen?

2008-04-24 Thread Outback Dingo
Well ... depends on your needs
Yes you can install FreeBSD 7 as a DomU, Ive done so under Debian and Ubuntu
server
I have 10 FreeBSD 7/8 DomUs running under XEN 3.1.2
Usability is somewhat questionable, though Ive had recently some better
stability for light work
compiling world/kernel is still a bit iffy with GCC core dumps
adding ports is doable, light load is doable, networking bridged appears ok
booting a DomU can also sometimes hang ( frequest) when using the -c flag
useable, yes to a degree... heavy productions work... No, definatley not at
this time
rumour says XEN HVM Hypervisor and KVM ( linux) both show riunning freebsd
on virtualized
platforms to be more stable and usable


On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Sébastien Morand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   xen docs doesn't talk about support for FreeBSD..
   Only Linux and Windows! The doc says the Guest
   operating system must be aware on running virtualized!
   Does FreeBSD supports it?

 Have you looked at this:
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen

 Hope it helps,

 Sebastien
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