Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-22 Thread Da Rock

On 02/23/12 11:57, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/23/12 08:33, Jerry wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000
Da Rock articulated:


The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I
was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by
playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it
suspended! Grr!

That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing,
enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to
RTFM.
Yes it is configurable, especially in FBSD, which is exactly my point 
to the OP.

Oh, and I might add: what manual?
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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-22 Thread Da Rock

On 02/23/12 08:33, Jerry wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000
Da Rock articulated:


The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I
was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by
playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it
suspended! Grr!

That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing,
enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to
RTFM.
Yes it is configurable, especially in FBSD, which is exactly my point to 
the OP.

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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-22 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000
Da Rock articulated:

> The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I
> was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by
> playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it
> suspended! Grr!

That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing,
enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to
RTFM.

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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-21 Thread Da Rock

On 02/22/12 09:19, Polytropon wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:08 +1000, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/22/12 01:44, Polytropon wrote:

Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all
the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not
switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless
devices.

I've never used, so I hadn't thought of it. That doesn't work for
desktop either does it?

If you can show me how to close a desktop's or minitower's
lid... :-)

When APM was the standard for those functionalities, it
worked perfectly at the time APM had been obsoleted. I
assume the same thing regarding ACPI will be the same:
When it works, it gets replaced by something else.

Kinda like 802.11n and flash...

One thing I have tested is the backlight turns off when you close the
lid and the power button will do a proper shutdown. I haven't heard of
the others working - at the very least you need to script it for your
own needs.

Depends. Sometimes you might intend that closing the lid
doesn't cause _any_ action, and the power button to be
the power button (causing a shutdown). Exanple: You are
using the laptop with external keyboard, mouse and screen.
To avoid the internal keyboard to become dusty, closing
the laptop would be nice. And if you're done with the
work - also applies when used "normally" - press the
power button, close the lid, and the device will power
down in few seconds.

Modern laptops don't seem to be able to perform like that.
If you press the power button, maybe they shutdown. If
you close the light right after that, it will go into some
sleep or hibernate mode _during_ the shutdown.

As far as I know, many of such functionalities depends
on the ACPI implementation. Here, manufacturers often
do a crappy job, not caring for specifications and standards.
This may often render parts of the device useless.
Most of it all can be scripted using devd. I don't know of any acpi 
laptops that have it builtin, it all has to implemented in the OS. 
Except the lid and backlight.


The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I was 
trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by playing on 
the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it suspended! Grr!

Fair comment. I had in mind mostly a CD, but I admit a USB will be far
better. I also had in mind the livefs system produced by the releases,
which doesn't give much at all. X would be very helpful and implies a
full system on the disk - this _will_ do most tests for a production
environment, like test whether components actually work or are just
recognised.

Live file systems like FreeSBIE produced good results
when the underlying OS was recent. 3D and current drivers
might be a problem today.




If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf
-lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to
use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better.

USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow
you to store files (as the results of your investigation).

Definitely agreed. But you'd need a full on system to do this,
preferably with X - watch the Vid cards. That said you can always use
vesa anyway.

Of course, but if you are interested in utilizing the
new system's full functionality, being able to also load
kernel drivers (such as nVidia and ATI) could also be a
benefit.
Unfortunately merely loading the drivers won't tell you much without X. 
They can conflict (or not) only when run by X.


These days, though, its not just video to worry about like this.
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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-21 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:08 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> On 02/22/12 01:44, Polytropon wrote:
> > Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all
> > the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not
> > switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless
> > devices.
> I've never used, so I hadn't thought of it. That doesn't work for 
> desktop either does it?

If you can show me how to close a desktop's or minitower's
lid... :-)

When APM was the standard for those functionalities, it
worked perfectly at the time APM had been obsoleted. I
assume the same thing regarding ACPI will be the same:
When it works, it gets replaced by something else.



> One thing I have tested is the backlight turns off when you close the 
> lid and the power button will do a proper shutdown. I haven't heard of 
> the others working - at the very least you need to script it for your 
> own needs.

Depends. Sometimes you might intend that closing the lid
doesn't cause _any_ action, and the power button to be
the power button (causing a shutdown). Exanple: You are
using the laptop with external keyboard, mouse and screen.
To avoid the internal keyboard to become dusty, closing
the laptop would be nice. And if you're done with the
work - also applies when used "normally" - press the
power button, close the lid, and the device will power
down in few seconds.

Modern laptops don't seem to be able to perform like that.
If you press the power button, maybe they shutdown. If
you close the light right after that, it will go into some
sleep or hibernate mode _during_ the shutdown.

As far as I know, many of such functionalities depends
on the ACPI implementation. Here, manufacturers often
do a crappy job, not caring for specifications and standards.
This may often render parts of the device useless.



> Fair comment. I had in mind mostly a CD, but I admit a USB will be far 
> better. I also had in mind the livefs system produced by the releases, 
> which doesn't give much at all. X would be very helpful and implies a 
> full system on the disk - this _will_ do most tests for a production 
> environment, like test whether components actually work or are just 
> recognised.

Live file systems like FreeSBIE produced good results
when the underlying OS was recent. 3D and current drivers
might be a problem today.



> >> If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf
> >> -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to
> >> use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this 
> >> better.
> > USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow
> > you to store files (as the results of your investigation).
> Definitely agreed. But you'd need a full on system to do this, 
> preferably with X - watch the Vid cards. That said you can always use 
> vesa anyway.

Of course, but if you are interested in utilizing the
new system's full functionality, being able to also load
kernel drivers (such as nVidia and ATI) could also be a
benefit.




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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-21 Thread Da Rock

On 02/22/12 01:44, Polytropon wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:05 +1000, Da Rock wrote:

To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances
of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more
laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were
wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now
thanks to Adrianns work.

Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all
the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not
switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless
devices.
I've never used, so I hadn't thought of it. That doesn't work for 
desktop either does it?


One thing I have tested is the backlight turns off when you close the 
lid and the power button will do a proper shutdown. I haven't heard of 
the others working - at the very least you need to script it for your 
own needs.

Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons:
1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work
in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know
about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and
error like crazy only once you start to use it.

The main idea of using such a system is to most precisely
determine the _present_ hardware to allow further investigations
(e. g. web searches and mailing list questions). The OS from
disc or stick can help to identify the hardware. If you're
running a live file system from a USB stick, you can do
things like:

# dmesg
# pciconf -lv
# usbconfig
# sysctl -a

If you start the system by "boot -v" (verbose logging), dmesg
will contain some more lines than usual. If you have a USB
stick, you can easily save the output of those commands to
persistent files.

If you have X in the mix, you can also check the support for
the display and obtain other information that might be important
later on (especially GPU info):

# glxinfo
# xvinfo

Log files worth saving are in /var/log, as well as Xorg.0.log
for X-related things.

If you prepare some programs, you can also do some testing,
e. g. multimedia, gaming, 3D support, networking and so on.
Fair comment. I had in mind mostly a CD, but I admit a USB will be far 
better. I also had in mind the livefs system produced by the releases, 
which doesn't give much at all. X would be very helpful and implies a 
full system on the disk - this _will_ do most tests for a production 
environment, like test whether components actually work or are just 
recognised.

2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung
laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play
with that either.

Depends. If you're interested in buying one of the more
expensive ones, they will offer you a "test ride" which
includes that you have a look at the CMOS setup (which is
something very typical for you as an IT professional).

You can say: "The BIOS is defective, it doesn't allow me
to boot a standard OS. Let's see... for 100$ less, I would
still do you a favour and buy it." :-)

 You are a devious one Polytropon :)

That would depend on the sales enviornment and country your in. Here 
they have the systems running with a lease on and a screenlock, and try 
to show you as little as possible to buy the thing... or you buy online. 
I'd love to try that trick of yours though

If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf
-lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to
use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better.

USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow
you to store files (as the results of your investigation).
Definitely agreed. But you'd need a full on system to do this, 
preferably with X - watch the Vid cards. That said you can always use 
vesa anyway.

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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-21 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:05 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances 
> of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more 
> laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were 
> wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now 
> thanks to Adrianns work.

Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all
the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not
switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless
devices.



> Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons:
> 1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work 
> in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know 
> about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and 
> error like crazy only once you start to use it.

The main idea of using such a system is to most precisely
determine the _present_ hardware to allow further investigations
(e. g. web searches and mailing list questions). The OS from
disc or stick can help to identify the hardware. If you're
running a live file system from a USB stick, you can do
things like:

# dmesg
# pciconf -lv
# usbconfig
# sysctl -a

If you start the system by "boot -v" (verbose logging), dmesg
will contain some more lines than usual. If you have a USB
stick, you can easily save the output of those commands to
persistent files.

If you have X in the mix, you can also check the support for
the display and obtain other information that might be important
later on (especially GPU info):

# glxinfo
# xvinfo

Log files worth saving are in /var/log, as well as Xorg.0.log
for X-related things.

If you prepare some programs, you can also do some testing,
e. g. multimedia, gaming, 3D support, networking and so on.



> 2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung 
> laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play 
> with that either.

Depends. If you're interested in buying one of the more
expensive ones, they will offer you a "test ride" which
includes that you have a look at the CMOS setup (which is
something very typical for you as an IT professional).

You can say: "The BIOS is defective, it doesn't allow me
to boot a standard OS. Let's see... for 100$ less, I would
still do you a favour and buy it." :-)



> If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf 
> -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to 
> use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better.

USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow
you to store files (as the results of your investigation).





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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Da Rock

On 02/21/12 05:35, Polytropon wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote:

I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD
OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can
run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box.
Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a
compatibility list?

Check the hardware compatibility list to find out which
devices are compatible to FreeBSD, also see the release
notes regarding version 9.0 of the OS.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html

It's also a good idea to prepare a FreeBSD CD or DVD (or
USB stick) that you can launch a FreeBSD system from (e. g.
live file system with some diagnostic tools, to see if the
hardware is supported). Ask if you can boot the system
you're interested in buying with that test media, it shouldn't
be a problem. You could also _ask_ for how the FreeBSD support
is, but don't expect any useful answers from an average
salesperson. :-)

"Does it run FreeBSD?"  -  "Yes, you can click on the Internet
with it, it's very shiny and comes with a wireless cable." =^_^=
LOL. I like that - I ended up selling a mobile phone to someone in a 
major retailer while a clueless salesperson attempted to answer their 
questions. When the salesperson came back to me to see what I wanted, I 
realised he wasn't going to know the answer either...


To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances 
of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more 
laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were 
wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now 
thanks to Adrianns work.


Find one you like and run with it. If you have any issues post here and 
see if people have some answers that will make it work. I hang out here 
a lot for starters.


Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons:
1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work 
in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know 
about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and 
error like crazy only once you start to use it.


2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung 
laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play 
with that either. All the laptops (and possibly branded desktops) are 
getting the Window$ "virus".


If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf 
-lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to 
use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better.


I did this with a touch screen years ago and "wowed" the salesperson - 
they generally have no clue about these things :)


My advice: buy one and wing it... it will be alright mostly.

My current laptops with FreeBSD:
HP Compaq Presario CQ62
HP Compaq Presario CQ62
Asus A52N
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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote:
> I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD
> OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can
> run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box.
> Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a
> compatibility list?

Check the hardware compatibility list to find out which
devices are compatible to FreeBSD, also see the release
notes regarding version 9.0 of the OS.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html

It's also a good idea to prepare a FreeBSD CD or DVD (or
USB stick) that you can launch a FreeBSD system from (e. g.
live file system with some diagnostic tools, to see if the
hardware is supported). Ask if you can boot the system
you're interested in buying with that test media, it shouldn't
be a problem. You could also _ask_ for how the FreeBSD support
is, but don't expect any useful answers from an average
salesperson. :-)

"Does it run FreeBSD?"  -  "Yes, you can click on the Internet
with it, it's very shiny and comes with a wireless cable." =^_^=


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Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote:
> Dear Information service
> 
> I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD
> OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can
> run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box.

The best way to check is to take a LiveCD to the store and ask if you can boot
the laptop that you'd like from that.

> Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a
> compatibility list?

GIYF: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/

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Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Riccardo Garzelli
Dear Information service

I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD
OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can
run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box.
Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a
compatibility list?
Thanks in advance

Rick
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Hardware Compatibility

2010-05-06 Thread David emmel
Hello all,

I have a quick question about server hardware compatibility. We're looking to 
buy a replacement server and the HP ProLiant DL320 G6 E5502 was listed as a 
possible option.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-3328412-241644-241475-3929672-3942218-3942219.html
 

The FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE hardware list doesn't list the included Smart Array 
B110i SATA RAID controller as compatible so I was wondering if anyone had any 
experience with this hardware.

Alternatively if anyone has recommendations of a different model or brand of 
server that is more compatible in the $2500 range, please let me know. We use 
it for simple web development for a group of 12 people and run samba, apache, 
php, mysql

Thank you for your time,
David


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Re: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility?

2009-02-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:15:37AM +0800, aaron lewis wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm  a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM
> Thinkpad R400 a18).
>   There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you
> have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work?
> I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list  whether a
> hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported.
> Does Fbsd has something likely?
> Thk in advance!

Here are some web pages to look at.

   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/index.html

   http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/

   http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile

   http://tuxmobil.org/mobile_bsd.html

In addition, the RELEASE notes section for each release of FreeBSD
contains pages or hardware compatibility notes.   Just look for the
RELEASE and then the hardware compatibility links.

jerry  

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Re: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility?

2009-01-18 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 23:53 -0700, Tim Judd wrote:
> aaron lewis wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm  a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM
> > Thinkpad R400 a18).
> >   There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you
> > have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work?
> > I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list  whether a
> > hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported.
> > Does Fbsd has something likely?
> > Thk in advance!
> >
> >   
> The most reliable way to check, is by booting the livefs cd and checking 
> pciconf -lvvv for any none* devices.  the none* devices may be given a 
> driver if you load a module, but what's in GENERIC on the livefs, is 
> what's in GENERIC when you first boot it from the hard disk.
> 
> This is an invaluable tool when I am just curious.  It's also the 
> invaluable tool for disaster recovery.  Try the CD, and post to 
> -questions when you get stuck with a device that should be recognized.
> 
> --Tim

Failing that look for the unknown devices (may show like 'multimedia
device', etc) when the cd boots up prior to sysinstall. Just keep your
eyes peeled as the text scrolls past; its not normally too fast that you
can't read it. This may not be 100% (or maybe it is...) but if it shows
up those tell tale signs here you can be sure its not supported.

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Re: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility?

2009-01-18 Thread Tim Judd

aaron lewis wrote:

Hi,
I'm  a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM
Thinkpad R400 a18).
  There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you
have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work?
I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list  whether a
hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported.
Does Fbsd has something likely?
Thk in advance!

  
The most reliable way to check, is by booting the livefs cd and checking 
pciconf -lvvv for any none* devices.  the none* devices may be given a 
driver if you load a module, but what's in GENERIC on the livefs, is 
what's in GENERIC when you first boot it from the hard disk.


This is an invaluable tool when I am just curious.  It's also the 
invaluable tool for disaster recovery.  Try the CD, and post to 
-questions when you get stuck with a device that should be recognized.


--Tim
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About FreeBSD hardware compatibility?

2009-01-18 Thread aaron lewis
Hi,
I'm  a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM
Thinkpad R400 a18).
  There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you
have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work?
I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list  whether a
hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported.
Does Fbsd has something likely?
Thk in advance!
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hardware compatibility question: intel e7200 + foxconn g31mg-s mobo

2008-11-19 Thread freebsd
After having been burned with an AMD cpu/mobo combination that wouldn't run 
6.x reliabably which I consequently had to sell, I'm going to ask first.


My search of the archives (questions and hardware) came up empty, but that 
seems likely given that both say their archive index was last updated clear 
back in Feb of 2007, despite the note saying they are updated every 24 hours...


Can anyone vouch for running 6.x or 7.0 on an intel e7200 with a foxconn 
g31mg-s mobo?


I was hoping to run this as a low power system but after reading this

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=18410+20569+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-hardware/20080727.freebsd-hardware

and my past experiences I'm a bit concerned unless someone can vouch for it.

Barring that, can someone suggest a low power (particularly when idle) core 
2 duo processor mobo combination?


Thanks,

Gary
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Re: Hardware compatibility question

2008-01-03 Thread Jack Barnett

Eric Crist wrote:


On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Darryl Hoar wrote:


Greetings,
I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650.  It has
(2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache
6 GB ECC Ram
(5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives
Perc/3 raid controller.
dual 10/100/1000 ethernet
dual power supplies.

will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ?
Going to be LAMP server.

thanks,
Darryl


If you're putting FreeBSD on it, I don't think it qualifies as a LAMP 
server...


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An FAMP Server perhaps ? :)




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Re: Hardware compatibility question

2008-01-03 Thread Eric Crist


On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Darryl Hoar wrote:


Greetings,
I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650.  It has
(2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache
6 GB ECC Ram
(5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives
Perc/3 raid controller.
dual 10/100/1000 ethernet
dual power supplies.

will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ?
Going to be LAMP server.

thanks,
Darryl


If you're putting FreeBSD on it, I don't think it qualifies as a LAMP  
server...


-
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Secure Computing Networks


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Re: Hardware compatibility question

2008-01-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:29:44PM -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote:

> Greetings,
> I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650.  It has
> (2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache
> 6 GB ECC Ram
> (5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives
> Perc/3 raid controller.
> dual 10/100/1000 ethernet
> dual power supplies.
> 
> will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ?

No.   Not if the hardware is working properly.
I would prefer larger and faster hard drives.

jerry

> Going to be LAMP server. 
> 
> thanks,
> Darryl
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Hardware compatibility question

2008-01-03 Thread Darryl Hoar
Greetings,
I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650.  It has
(2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache
6 GB ECC Ram
(5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives
Perc/3 raid controller.
dual 10/100/1000 ethernet
dual power supplies.

will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ?
Going to be LAMP server. 

thanks,
Darryl

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Re: RFC: Free Software Hardware Compatibility - Centralised DB

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 09:03, Joel Rees wrote:
> > ...
> > ASSUMPTION:
> > ...
> > We assume that it is in the best interests of each Free Software
> > Unix-like operating system distribution, each kernel (eg. Linux, *BSD,
> > HURD) and in the best interests of the end users, to have a 
> > centralised/
> > unified location for hardware information.
> > ...
> 
> I'm not sure that centralization is a valid assumption in the open 
> source community.

The centralization is so that manufacturers have a single point of
contact to submit their own hardware information to, however much or
little that might be.

> ...is that individuals and 
> companies who have hardware to donate ...

This project has _nothing_ to do with donating hardware.

It is about a Hardware Information Database.

Hope that's clear to all
Zenaan
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Re: RFC: Free Software Hardware Compatibility - Centralised DB

2004-06-11 Thread Joel Rees
(Apologies in advance --)
On 2004.6.11, at 06:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
PLEASE NOTE:
* Please do not reply-all
Sorry, when you break the rules, the rules are broken. However,
...
ASSUMPTION:
...
We assume that it is in the best interests of each Free Software
Unix-like operating system distribution, each kernel (eg. Linux, *BSD,
HURD) and in the best interests of the end users, to have a 
centralised/
unified location for hardware information.
...
I'm not sure that centralization is a valid assumption in the open 
source community.

Getting hardware is only half the battle. I think that what the members 
of the open source community would prefer is that individuals and 
companies who have hardware to donate would be aware of (1) what 
projects they want or need to support and (2) where the hardware they 
have to donate can best be used. (It's a free market, we just use a 
different currency, so to speak.)

That said, I suspect that, if a company or individual has hardware to 
donate and is not sure where it should go, a broadcast troll like this 
might actually be appropriate.

(Which is why I'm even further breaking protocol here.)
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RFC: Free Software Hardware Compatibility - Centralised DB

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
PLEASE NOTE:

* Please do not reply-all (this is essentially an announcement and
request for comments. For further discussion, please advise that you
wish to be added to the soon-to-be-created mailing list (I'm still
looking for an appropriate site to host this)).

* Please forward this as appropriate (namely to those involved in
hardware compatibility, certification, driver development, and/ or
manufacture, as it relates to our free software community).



ASSUMPTION:

We in the free software community wish to have better and more up to
date hardware identification and support.

We assume that it is in the best interests of each Free Software
Unix-like operating system distribution, each kernel (eg. Linux, *BSD,
HURD) and in the best interests of the end users, to have a centralised/
unified location for hardware information.

First and foremost though, it is in the best interests of the
manufacturers - to simplify their job:

For Microsoft, they have a single point of contact.

Contrast this with the numerous HCLs, hardware sites (such as
www.linux1394.org and linuxprinting.org), kernels and distributions,
such as Debian, Red Hat, FreeBSD and a myriad of others.

As a manufacturer, it is simply impossible to (generally) go anywhere
near supporting all these free software projects.

And so it is in the best interests of each of us individually, and
collectively, if we can simplify the job of the manufacturer.

As a manufacturer of a widget, if I have a single, commonly known place
to go to provide technical and contact information, as much or as little
as I desire (even perhaps just bus IDs and product names), then I might
actually do so.

We, as a community, might just have a hope of keeping up to date as
compared with the proprietary os's out there, namely MSW*.


-
So, I hereby propose such a database be established.

I am willing to contribute some of my own time and effort to doing so.

This database and surrounding facilities will be os-, vendor-,
distribution- and kernel- neutral, and will thereby attract many
otherwise disparate parties, such as the BSDs and the GNU/Linux distros.

If you and/ or your company is interested in supporting this effort, by
way of working together on this project to unify HCLs, device and driver
information or the like, then please reply to me and let me know that
you would like to be added to the soon-to-be-created mailing list.

If your organization can actively devote even some small resources to
the project, that is obviously very much appreciated.


-
Once the database and submission facilities are minimally established, I
propose that relevant parties widely advertise/ promote the fact to
manufacturers (and users and developers too), that this database is the
preferred and centralized means of submission of such information.

The plan is to integrate seamlessly with existing Distribution-specific
HCLs and due to the centralization provide and richer facility than is
otherwise possible today.


Thank you in advance, and regards to all,
Zenaan


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Re: FW: freebsd 3.5 Hardware compatibility

2004-03-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:01:27PM -0500, Dwight Spence wrote:
>  
> Also what is the compatibility with FreeBSD 3.5 and the following CD-ROM devices:

Ah -- archaic CD Rom devices.  That explains the interest in the old
version of the OS.
  
> Matsushita/Panasonic/Creative CD-ROM


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=matcd&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+3.5.1-RELEASE

> Mitsumi CD-ROM


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mcd&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+3.5.1-RELEASE

> Sony CD-ROM


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=scd&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+3.5.1-RELEASE

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: freebsd 3.5 Hardware compatibility

2004-03-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:23:39AM -0500, Dwight Spence wrote:
> Could you provide me some information if FreeBSD 3.5 will run on a PC?
>  
> Intel (R) Pentium
> ® $CPU 2.40 GHZ
> AT/AT Compatible
>  
> 1,048,048 KB RAM

That's not nearly detailed enough information.  You should compare the
disk controllers, motherboard chipsets, ethernet interfaces and other
devices against the supported hardware lists in the Release Notes:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.5R/notes.html

-- cross reference the driver information against the 3.5-RELEASE man
pages, which often have more detailed information:


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+3.5.1-RELEASE&format=html

Although quite why you would want to install such an old and
unmaintained release of FreeBSD on what is clearly quite a new
machine, I don't know.  You're a lot more likely to get good results
if you install 4.9-RELEASE, or maybe 5.2.1-RELEASE if this isn't for a
critical system.

Cheers,

Matthew

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FW: freebsd 3.5 Hardware compatibility

2004-03-31 Thread Dwight Spence
 
Also what is the compatibility with FreeBSD 3.5 and the following CD-ROM devices:
 
Matsushita/Panasonic/Creative CD-ROM
Mitsumi CD-ROM
Sony CD-ROM
 
Thank you
DS
-Original Message-
From: Dwight Spence 
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Subject: freebsd 3.5 Hardware compatibility
 
Could you provide me some information if FreeBSD 3.5 will run on a PC?
 
Intel (R) Pentium
® $CPU 2.40 GHZ
AT/AT Compatible
 
1,048,048 KB RAM
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freebsd 3.5 Hardware compatibility

2004-03-31 Thread Dwight Spence
Could you provide me some information if FreeBSD 3.5 will run on a PC?
 
Intel (R) Pentium
® $CPU 2.40 GHZ
AT/AT Compatible
 
1,048,048 KB RAM
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hardware compatibility

2004-03-29 Thread ritwik das
hi, i have a intel875 motherboard,and sata raid drives(serial hardware raid). plz tell 
me wheather i can configure this in freebsd 5.2.1(i386).
 
thanks & regards
Ritwik Das.


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Re: Hardware Compatibility List

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Maltese
> Dear Project People:
>  Last Spring I purchased the BSD Mall software FreeBSD 5.0 from a
local
> computer store.  I would like to determine what hardware is compatible
with
> this OS.  Is there a set of 'White Papers', or a Hardware Compatibility
List
> that can be viewed in updated form periodically?  Are there different
lists
> or papers for different sub-version?  In other words, does 5.1 have a
> different list or papers than 5.0?  What difference would NetBSD or
OpenBSD
> have in terms of compatibility?

5.0:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/hardware.html

5.1:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/hardware.html

-CURRENT:
http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/


Amazing what a little poking around on the website will turn up.

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Hardware Compatibility List

2003-12-19 Thread Frank Walder
Dear Project People:
Last Spring I purchased the BSD Mall software FreeBSD 5.0 from a local 
computer store.  I would like to determine what hardware is compatible with 
this OS.  Is there a set of 'White Papers', or a Hardware Compatibility List 
that can be viewed in updated form periodically?  Are there different lists 
or papers for different sub-version?  In other words, does 5.1 have a 
different list or papers than 5.0?  What difference would NetBSD or OpenBSD 
have in terms of compatibility?

Sincerely, Frank

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