Re: IMAP quandry... .

2008-03-20 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:09:10 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   QUOTE
   Sending failed:
   Your SMTP server does not support PLAIN. Choose a different 
 authentication method. The server responded: 5.7.0 authentication failed
   The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the 
 problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' 
 folder.
   The following transport protocol was used: aristotle.thought.org
   Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages?
   /QUOTE

Hi Gary,
i think you may be confusing IMAP (get email and manage folders,etc) with SMTP
(send email).
from the message above, it seems that the plain text auth method is not
supported (anymore?) by your smtp server. And therefore it failed to
authenticate you it doesn't *necessarily* mean the password changed - it
could be the server got upgraded and the new default is to not accept
auth in PLAIN (ie, now it wants CRAM5, TLS, etc).

The best way to see what happens is to run ethereal (or tcpdump...) and see
exactly what the server is answering back - i don't trust what the mail
software reports..in most cases the server messages are crammed into a few
pre-packaged options that obscure the real issue.

B

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Re: IMAP quandry... .

2008-03-20 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:09:10 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   At any rate, *where* is the IMAP stuff stashed on aristotle?   A 
   mail app called dovecot is installed.  Is the password stuff 
   kept somewhere in plaintext? 

for dovecot, check /usr/local/etc/dovecot.* ... if you keep the passdw in a
file, it may be called dovecot.passwd

 And:: WHY do I need this level of
   security?  I would rather not have any password protection on my 
 email...

I assume your server is in your LAN, otherwise the question is a bit silly :)

but even in your LAN, you are open to attacks which would have it that much
easier if you don't have any password set at all. And, without passwords, what
would you do with all those password keeper files and post-it notes on your
monitor ;-)
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I don't think they could put him in a mental hospital.  On the other
hand, if he were already in, I don't think they'd let him out.

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IMAP quandry... .

2008-03-18 Thread Gary Kline
People,

Sometime yesterday, problems with sending out mail began 
happening.  I am not sure how my IMAP passwd could have been
altered.   But it is.

I first saw this is using mutt from my desktop (tao) to my
mailserver, (aristotle).  On to, in ~/.mutt/muttrc is:



set mbox_type=Maildir
set mask=!^\\.[^.]
set mbox=~/Maildir
set record=imaps://aristotle.thought.org/INBOX/.Mutt Sent Items
set copy=yes
set postponed=imaps://aristotle.thought.org/.Drafts
set spoolfile=imaps://aristotle.thought.org/INBOX
set folder=imaps://aristotle.thought.org
set imap_user=kline
set imap_pass=
set use_domain=yes
set duplicate_threads=yes
set realname=Gary Kline
set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set signature=~/.signature
set editor=vi

set sendmail=/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -U kline -P  -d 
thought.org -h aristotle.thought.org -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Last night I had troubles sending mail _out_ via mutt; because I
can use vi I send most long messages using mutt. Then I tried kmail.
Same deal when I tried to send.   I was able to mouse-swipe this 
dialogue:

QUOTE
Sending failed:
Your SMTP server does not support PLAIN. Choose a different 
authentication method. The server responded: 5.7.0 authentication failed
The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the 
problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder.
The following transport protocol was used: aristotle.thought.org
Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages?
/QUOTE


I had/have no clue how to fix this; thus, this email to the list.
I just tried evolutionn thaat reequested my IMAP password.  I tried 
my  above---which was what I set it to initially when my
friend in Dallas, TX helped me set this up in Jan.  [[ He helped me
yesteerday to get rsync working to auto-backup web and other config
files from aristotle to other computers.  Can't see any reason that
anythiing-IMAP would have been touched.]]  

At any rate, *where* is the IMAP stuff stashed on aristotle?   A 
mail app called dovecot is installed.  Is the password stuff 
kept somewhere in plaintext?  And:: WHY do I need this level of
security?  I would rather not have any password protection on my 
email...


thanks for any help,

gary




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