RE: Mail Delivery within Local Domain Takes Hours

2004-02-07 Thread Maxine Simpson 


I think your guess is probably right...at least, that's what I'm leaning
towards...when I trace the sending of an individual mail message, it fails
on what looks like a DNS query - (I'm on a steep learning curve here...
 8-) )   And our mail server was at one time our primary dns server - but is
no longer (this was before me - I've only been on board a few weeks) - yet
it almost looks like it's trying to query the mail server as a dns
server

Here's a sample output - am I missing something obvious?  Any replaced
system names are fully qualified...

Also, down at the bottom of the trace are these names
prisoner.iana.org. hostmaster.root-servers.org  what are these supposed
to be?  The second one doesn't even resolve...

I've since removed the loopback address from the resolv.conf.

Lots of questionsplease be patient?  Learning as fast as I can!  8-)
Maxine




;; res_querydomain(Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here, Nil, 1, 1)
;; res_query(Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here, 1, 1)
;; res_mkquery(0, Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here, 1, 1)
;; res_send()
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52494
;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;;  Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here, type = A, class = IN
;; Querying server (# 1) address = 127.0.0.1
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52494
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;;  Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here, type = A, class = IN
Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here.  5M IN A  IP_ADDR_Of_Our_Mail_Server_Here
Our_Domain_Name_Here.   5M IN NSOur_Primary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.
Our_Domain_Name_Here.   5M IN NSOur_Secondary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.
Our_Primary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.   5M IN A 
IP_Addr_of_Primary_DNS_Server
Our_Primary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.   5M IN A 
IP_Addr_of_Secondary_DNS_Server
;; res_query(Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here.in-addr.arpa, 1, 12)
;; res_mkquery(0, Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here.in-addr.arpa, 1, 12)
;; res_send()
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52495
;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;;  Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here.in-addr.arpa, type = PTR, class = IN
;; Querying server (# 1) address = 127.0.0.1
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52495
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 6, ADDITIONAL: 6
;;  Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here.in-addr.arpa, type = PTR, class = IN
IP_ADDR_Of_Our_Mail_Server_Here.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN PTR
Our_Mail_Server_Name_Here.
Reversed_Net_IP_Addr_Part.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN NS
Our_Primary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.
Reversed_Net_IP_Addr_Part.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN NS
Our_Secondary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.
Reversed_Net_IP_Addr_Part.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN NS
Outside_DNS_Server1.net.
Reversed_Net_IP_Addr_Part.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN NS
Outside_DNS_Server2.net.
Reversed_Net_IP_Addr_Part.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN NS
Outside_DNS_Server3.net.
Reversed_Net_IP_Addr_Part.in-addr.arpa.  2m7s IN NS
Outside_DNS_Server4.net.
Our_Primary_DNS_Server_Name_Here.   4m42s IN A  
IP_Addr_of_Primary_DNS_Server
Our_Secondary_DNS_Server_Name_Here. 3m41s IN A
IP_Addr_of_Secondary_DNS_Server
NS1-AUTH.SPRINTLINK.net.  15h15m30s IN A  206.228.179.10   
 (Valid Address)
NS2-AUTH.SPRINTLINK.net.  22h55m53s IN A  144.228.254.10   
 (Valid Address)
NS3-AUTH.SPRINTLINK.net.  1d17h39m21s IN A  144.228.255.10 
 (Valid
Address)
ICM1.ICP.net.   1d22h55m41s IN A  192.94.207.66 (Valid 
Address)
;; res_query(1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa, 1, 12)
(We don't use these network #'s, why query?)
;; res_mkquery(0, 1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa, 1, 12)  
(this
address doesn't resolve either...)
;; res_send()
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52496
;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;;  1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa, type = PTR, class = IN
;; Querying server (# 1) address = 127.0.0.1
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 52496
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;;  1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa, type = PTR, class = IN
168.192.in-addr.arpa.   1h44s IN SOAprisoner.iana.org.
hostmaster.root-servers.org. (
2002040800  ; serial
30M ; refresh
15M ; retry
1W  ; expiry
1W ); minimum

;; rcode = 3, ancount=0


-Original Message-
From: Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:54 PM
To: Maxine Simpson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mail Delivery within Local Domain Takes

Mail Delivery within Local Domain Takes Hours

2004-02-06 Thread Maxine Simpson 

Hello,

This is my first posthere goes...

My mail server is a FreeBSD box running sendmail and cucipop.  Cucipop is
doing its authentication with Radius.

I realize this is 'bare bones' information (and would happily supply
more) - but my situation is this:

1.  Mail leaving our local domain is delivered to domains outside within a
minute or two.

2.  Mail coming into our local domain is also delivered within a minute or
two.

3.  Mail between users in our local domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) takes ~4 hours to be delivered.  (???)

Any thoughts on what might be causing this?

Thanks in advance,
Maxine

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Re: Mail Delivery within Local Domain Takes Hours

2004-02-06 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. 
Maxine Simpson wrote:

Hello,

	This is my first posthere goes...

My mail server is a FreeBSD box running sendmail and cucipop.  Cucipop is
doing its authentication with Radius.
I realize this is 'bare bones' information (and would happily supply
more) - but my situation is this:
1.  Mail leaving our local domain is delivered to domains outside within a
minute or two.
2.  Mail coming into our local domain is also delivered within a minute or
two.
3.  Mail between users in our local domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) takes ~4 hours to be delivered.  (???)
	Any thoughts on what might be causing this?

Thanks in advance,
Maxine
 

Guess:  DNS issues locally?

Kevin Kinsey

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Re: Mail Delivery within Local Domain Takes Hours

2004-02-06 Thread Chuck Swiger 
Maxine Simpson wrote:
[ ... ]
3.  Mail between users in our local domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) takes ~4 hours to be delivered.  (???)
	Any thoughts on what might be causing this?
Several, although you should look at /var/log/maillog and see what's really 
going on.  :-)  The four-hour interval is sendmail's normal retry after a 
failed delivery attempt timeout, only the initial delivery attempt shouldn't 
fail when the mail is local.

If you're running a recent sendmail, make sure you've got both the MTA (as 
root) and the client MSP queue running (as smmsp).

Perhaps try:

	echo '3,0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]' | sendmail -bt

...that should end with something like:

parsereturns: $# local $: user1

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-Chuck
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