problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Ott Köstner

Greetings!

Please help with the following issue:

I am trying to mount external USB Windows disk drive to my FreeBSD 
system. After connecting the drive, the following log entries are created:


Aug 10 18:23:56 ott kernel: ugen2.2: Western Digital at usbus2
Aug 10 18:23:56 ott kernel: umass0: Western Digital External HDD, class 
0/0, rev 2.00/2.40, addr 2 on usbus2

Aug 10 18:23:56 ott kernel: umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x
Aug 10 18:23:57 ott kernel: umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0
Aug 10 18:23:57 ott kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
Aug 10 18:23:57 ott kernel: da0: WDC WD16 00BEVE-11UYT0  Fixed 
Direct Access SCSI-0 device

Aug 10 18:23:57 ott kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
Aug 10 18:23:57 ott kernel: da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 
255H 63S/T 19457C)


Mounting the drive gives the following error:

# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument

In the /var/log/messages the following message appears:

Aug 10 18:27:40 ott kernel: mountmsdosfs(): bad FAT32 filesystem

The drive is OK and works fine with Windows. Also, USB flash thumb 
drives work fine, when used in the same manner with my FreeBSD.

System version is 8.0-STABLE, but this is probably irrelevant here.

best regards,
Ott Köstner





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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Antonio Vieiro

On 10/08/2010 17:32, Ott Köstner wrote:

[...]

In the /var/log/messages the following message appears:

Aug 10 18:27:40 ott kernel: mountmsdosfs(): bad FAT32 filesystem

The drive is OK and works fine with Windows. Also, USB flash thumb
drives work fine, when used in the same manner with my FreeBSD.
System version is 8.0-STABLE, but this is probably irrelevant here.



The fact that the drive is working on Windows does not mean it's FAT32 
formatted. It may as well be NTFS formatted (man mount_ntfs).


Doublecheck you're running a FAT32 system: FreeBSD is saying you're not.

Cheers,
Antonio
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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Ott Köstner

Antonio Vieiro wrote:


The fact that the drive is working on Windows does not mean it's FAT32 
formatted. It may as well be NTFS formatted (man mount_ntfs).


Doublecheck you're running a FAT32 system: FreeBSD is saying you're not.


Thank You! Looks better now, but the volume is still unusable.

# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
r...@ott / # mount -v|grep da0
/dev/da0s1 on /mnt (ntfs, local, fsid 71000800)

# df -H|grep da0
/dev/da0s1   160G 26G134G16%/mnt

...but all commands result with an error like this...

# ls -l /mnt/BACKUP
ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long


:(
Ott
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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

 Antonio Vieiro wrote:


 The fact that the drive is working on Windows does not mean it's FAT32
 formatted. It may as well be NTFS formatted (man mount_ntfs).

 Doublecheck you're running a FAT32 system: FreeBSD is saying you're not.

  Thank You! Looks better now, but the volume is still unusable.

 # mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
 r...@ott / # mount -v|grep da0
 /dev/da0s1 on /mnt (ntfs, local, fsid 71000800)

 # df -H|grep da0
 /dev/da0s1   160G 26G134G16%/mnt

 ...but all commands result with an error like this...

 # ls -l /mnt/BACKUP
 ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long


That generally means there are too many files to process via default shell
memory settings.  Something like:

find /mnt/BACKUP

should work in that case.

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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Ott Köstner

Adam Vande More wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

  

# df -H|grep da0
/dev/da0s1   160G 26G134G16%/mnt

...but all commands result with an error like this...

# ls -l /mnt/BACKUP
ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long




That generally means there are too many files to process via default shell
memory settings.  Something like:

find /mnt/BACKUP

should work in that case.

  


Yes, generally this means that there are too many files, but not in this 
case. Even find gives me:


# find /mnt/BACKUP
find: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long

or

# ls -ld /mnt/BACKUP
ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long

Some directories are not big at all. My question is, is is a FreeBSD 
problem here, or is there something wrong with the drive (or am I doing 
something wrong here)?

For some reason my BSD does not want to eat that drive...

;)
Ott


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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

 Adam Vande More wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:



 # df -H|grep da0
 /dev/da0s1   160G 26G134G16%/mnt

 ...but all commands result with an error like this...

 # ls -l /mnt/BACKUP
 ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long




 That generally means there are too many files to process via default shell
 memory settings.  Something like:

 find /mnt/BACKUP

 should work in that case.




 Yes, generally this means that there are too many files, but not in this
 case. Even find gives me:

 # find /mnt/BACKUP
 find: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long

 or

 # ls -ld /mnt/BACKUP

 ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long

 Some directories are not big at all. My question is, is is a FreeBSD
 problem here, or is there something wrong with the drive (or am I doing
 something wrong here)?
 For some reason my BSD does not want to eat that drive...


Apparently that's a known bug kern/136873

you can try sysutils/ntfsprogs to mount it.



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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Ott Köstner

Adam Vande More wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

  

Adam Vande More wrote:



On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

  



# ls -ld /mnt/BACKUP

ls: /mnt/BACKUP: Argument list too long

Some directories are not big at all. My question is, is is a FreeBSD
problem here, or is there something wrong with the drive (or am I doing
something wrong here)?
For some reason my BSD does not want to eat that drive...

  


Apparently that's a known bug kern/136873

you can try sysutils/ntfsprogs to mount it.


  

Thank You again,
but even this does not seem to help in the first place.

1) Installed ntfsprogs-2.0.0_1 from ports. After that:

# ntfsmount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory
fuse_mount failed.
Unmounting /dev/da0s1 (WD Passport)

I can see the drive information:

# ntfsinfo -m /dev/da0s1
Volume Information
   Name of device: /dev/da0s1
   Device state: 3
   Volume Name: WD Passport
   Volume State: 1
   Volume Version: 3.1
   Sector Size: 512
   Cluster Size: 16384
   Volume Size in Clusters: 9768020
[...snip...]

2) After that...

# ntfsfix /dev/da0s1
Mounting volume... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/da0s1 was processed successfully.

3) Trying to mount again:

# ntfsmount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
Volume is scheduled for check.
Please boot into Windows TWICE, or use the 'force' option.
NOTE: If you had not scheduled check and last time accessed this volume
using ntfsmount and shutdown system properly, then init scripts in your
distribution are broken. Please report to your distribution developers
(NOT to us!) that init scripts kill ntfsmount or mount.ntfs-fuse during
shutdown instead of proper umount.
Mount failed.

4) UHH!!!

greetings,
Ott




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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Samuel Martín Moro
or use the 'force' option
ntfsmount -o force, or something like that
then, it would mount normally (without forcing)

btw, I didn't check, is ntfsprogs' mkntfs (or whatever the name) working
now?


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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

  OK
 Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
 NTFS volume version is 3.1.

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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:

 2) After that...

 # ntfsfix /dev/da0s1
 Mounting volume... OK
 Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
 NTFS volume version is 3.1.
 NTFS partition /dev/da0s1 was processed successfully.


All ntfsfix does is mark it dirty so windows with check the fs next time it
mounts it.  I suggest you follow ntfsmount's suggestion.



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Re: problem mounting USB drive

2010-08-10 Thread Aiza

Adam Vande More wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote:


2) After that...

# ntfsfix /dev/da0s1
Mounting volume... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/da0s1 was processed successfully.



All ntfsfix does is mark it dirty so windows with check the fs next time it
mounts it.  I suggest you follow ntfsmount's suggestion.





Try using /dev/da0
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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-31 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:54:13 +0200  Ivan Zenzerovi?  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those
  partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there
  are 3 ntfs partitions.
  
  Ivan
  
  On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended
   partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  The
   extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition
   table.

I'm surprised if there's any problem mounting either msdosfs or ntfs
'drives' in 'extended partitions' nowadays?  There certainly wasn't in
FreeBSD 4.x, when I managed to get mount_hpfs going to salvage a number
of HPFS 'drives', all of which lived in the 'extended partition'. 

The HPFS code (still in the source tree last I checked, but not compiled
by default) was written by Semen Ustimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED], who
also wrote the (then) NTFS code; the two shared lots of cut-n-paste.

It's true that information on this is a bit sketchy and harder to find,
but basically an 'extended partition' (in DOS parlance) uses one of the
four slices on a disk, for example let's say ad0s2, and the separate
'drives' that might appear as D:, E:, etc to DOS/'doze would be then
accessed as ad0s5, ad0s6 etc. 

   At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees
   the
   second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
   that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
   windows they work fine.

Try mount_ntfs using ad1s5, ad1s6 and ad1s7 then, read-only for safety.

From a 2004 fstab on one 4.10 system:
/dev/ad2s5  /hpfs   hpfsro,noauto   0 0

Cheers, Ian

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Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Derek Ragona
You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended 
partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  The 
extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table.


-Derek

At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those
partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there
are 3 ntfs partitions.

Ivan

On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended
partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  The
extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition
table.

-Derek

At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees
the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Derek Ragona
Not that I know of.  The extended partitions are implemented as 
linked-lists, and not in a partition table as standard partitions are and 
the mount_ntfs is not written for the extended partitions.


You can move things back and forth using the one partition that you can access.

-Derek



At 11:54 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those
partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there
are 3 ntfs partitions.

Ivan

On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended
partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  The
extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition
table.

-Derek

At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees
the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

Could I maybe fix this with trying to make the partitions again or something
like this from windows with partition magic? I supose that on the same way
freebsd does with it's partitions?

Ivan

On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not that I know of.  The extended partitions are implemented as
linked-lists, and not in a partition table as standard partitions are and
the mount_ntfs is not written for the extended partitions.

You can move things back and forth using the one partition that you can
access.

-Derek



At 11:54 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those
partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there
are 3 ntfs partitions.

Ivan

On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended
partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  The
extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition
table.

-Derek

At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees
the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Derek Ragona
You'd have to enlarge the primary partition and move the data from the two 
extended partitions into that partition.


-Derek


At 12:27 PM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Could I maybe fix this with trying to make the partitions again or something
like this from windows with partition magic? I supose that on the same way
freebsd does with it's partitions?

Ivan

On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not that I know of.  The extended partitions are implemented as
linked-lists, and not in a partition table as standard partitions are and
the mount_ntfs is not written for the extended partitions.

You can move things back and forth using the one partition that you can
access.

-Derek



At 11:54 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those
partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there
are 3 ntfs partitions.

Ivan

On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended
partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  The
extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition
table.

-Derek

At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees
the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On
windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition

2007-03-30 Thread Garrett Cooper

Derek Ragona wrote:
You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended 
partitions.  This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives.  
The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the 
partition table.


-Derek

At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system 
sees the
second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, 
but on
that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see 
them. On

windows they work fine.

Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the
responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I
rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be?

Thanks,
Ivan

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Re: Re[2]: Mounting a drive

2006-07-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Many  thanks for reply Jerry, when I joined FreeBSD I had not realised
 that  it  was  a Linux/ Unix forum, on quick inspection I assumed that
 the title referred to some kind of general help forum. There is such a
 proliferation  of  abbreviated  titles  that I am not always sure from
 titles of their purpose.
 
 My  question  referred really to Windows XP, as I am only just getting
 to grips with Linux.

First of all, it has nothing to do with LINUX.

This is FreeBSD which follows the BSD family of UNIX and
is not nearly the same.   In fact, most of us experience it
as superior to LUNIX for server work.
   Check it out at:   http://www.freebsd.org/

As for any Microsloth stuff, I couldn't help, but I would
guess that you are wasting your time trying to do anything
of that sophistication in MS.

Finally, when you post questions or responses on the list, you should
always include the list in your responses (as a cc).

jerry


 I  had  read  an article recently, which I can no longer find, that to
 get  around  the  limitation, under windows XP, of the number of named
 partitions  that  one  can  use,  that  apparently  one  can mount a
 partition,  be  it  a  sector  of a hard drive, or a removeable drive,
 within  a  directory. ( I believe the article said directory, it might
 have  ben  a folder ) The article was referring to the ability then to
 have  a  number of flash drives or external USB connected drives which
 could exceed the normal Windows limitation.
 
 I  am  running  a  piece of software, hyperOS, which allows me to have
 multiple  bootable partitions, and currently I have around 20 on a 300
 Gig  hard  drive,  I wanted to add several USB memory stick drives and
 some partitions with different flavours of linux, and so am interested
 in  finding  out  how I can overcome the windows XP limitation. I felt
 that  also  I  needed  to  understand what the term mounting a drive
 actually  meant,  so  that  I  could  try  to  anticipate  any unusual
 behaviour,  particularly  with  boot  switching.  From  your  email it
 appears  that  mounting  implies  letting the device driver know the
 address of the device upon which it is to work.
 
 Best regards and thanks for reply,
 Richard
 
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Re: Re[2]: Mounting a drive

2006-07-11 Thread cknipe
Hmm

Disk Manager - Change Mount Point - Mount Volume to a Directory

Unless I'm misunderstanding, that's what you're looking for on the Windows
side.. 

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Quoting Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  
  Many  thanks for reply Jerry, when I joined FreeBSD I had not realised
  that  it  was  a Linux/ Unix forum, on quick inspection I assumed that
  the title referred to some kind of general help forum. There is such a
  proliferation  of  abbreviated  titles  that I am not always sure from
  titles of their purpose.
  
  My  question  referred really to Windows XP, as I am only just getting
  to grips with Linux.
 
 First of all, it has nothing to do with LINUX.
 
 This is FreeBSD which follows the BSD family of UNIX and
 is not nearly the same.   In fact, most of us experience it
 as superior to LUNIX for server work.
Check it out at:   http://www.freebsd.org/
 
 As for any Microsloth stuff, I couldn't help, but I would
 guess that you are wasting your time trying to do anything
 of that sophistication in MS.
 
 Finally, when you post questions or responses on the list, you should
 always include the list in your responses (as a cc).
 
 jerry
 
 
  I  had  read  an article recently, which I can no longer find, that to
  get  around  the  limitation, under windows XP, of the number of named
  partitions  that  one  can  use,  that  apparently  one  can mount a
  partition,  be  it  a  sector  of a hard drive, or a removeable drive,
  within  a  directory. ( I believe the article said directory, it might
  have  ben  a folder ) The article was referring to the ability then to
  have  a  number of flash drives or external USB connected drives which
  could exceed the normal Windows limitation.
  
  I  am  running  a  piece of software, hyperOS, which allows me to have
  multiple  bootable partitions, and currently I have around 20 on a 300
  Gig  hard  drive,  I wanted to add several USB memory stick drives and
  some partitions with different flavours of linux, and so am interested
  in  finding  out  how I can overcome the windows XP limitation. I felt
  that  also  I  needed  to  understand what the term mounting a drive
  actually  meant,  so  that  I  could  try  to  anticipate  any unusual
  behaviour,  particularly  with  boot  switching.  From  your  email it
  appears  that  mounting  implies  letting the device driver know the
  address of the device upon which it is to work.
  
  Best regards and thanks for reply,
  Richard
  
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Re: Re[2]: Mounting a drive

2006-07-11 Thread backyard1454-bsd
Keep in mind here without special device drivers (I've
heard they exist but have never installed any of them)
you will not be able to mount a Linux (linux uses
several different file systems) partition under
Windows XP. Disk Manager will allow an NTFS filesystem
directory mount an arbritrary Volume (a file system
windows supports, fat, fat32, ntfs, maybe hpfs) on
your system to overcome the DOS (it is not a Windows
limitation, Microsoft is still running a 16 bit world)
limitation of 26 drives, 24 of which can be
harddrives.

Mounting isn't really a function of the filesystem
(maybe in Linux it is???) but of the vnode system. It
allows a device (any specially configured file) with
a known structure to be referenced within the context
of a root directory structure, superceding
(non-destructively...) whatever was in the mounted
directory prior to the mount. In other words it lets
the partition (I'll keep the spcial files simple) be
seen on a filesystem to people with the appropriate
credentials, and by mounting say /foo with say the
special file /dev/da0s1a anything in /foo will no
longer be seen by the vnode system and instead
anything on /dev/da0s1a will be displayed in it's
place.

It would seem that unless you are installing Linux on
an Fat32 filesystem those partitions would be useless
within windows. You wouldn't be able to even edit
configuration files with Windows (the editors that
come with windows) editors because they will add line
feed (maybe it is carridge returns I always mess this
one up) to the text and Linux won't like that.

Any further help with Linux should be in another
mailling list, but if you want to put FreeBSD on one
of those memory sticks I'm sure we would try to
help...

Windows is just about useless, it doesn't even support
the now 5 year old or so 64-bit processors... I highly
doubt you will find anything but headaches doing what
you seem to be attempting to do with Windows and
GNUnix.

good luck

-brian


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm
 
 Disk Manager - Change Mount Point - Mount Volume to
 a Directory
 
 Unless I'm misunderstanding, that's what you're
 looking for on the Windows
 side.. 
 
 --
 Chris
 
 
 Quoting Jerry McAllister
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   
   Many  thanks for reply Jerry, when I joined
 FreeBSD I had not realised
   that  it  was  a Linux/ Unix forum, on quick
 inspection I assumed that
   the title referred to some kind of general help
 forum. There is such a
   proliferation  of  abbreviated  titles  that I
 am not always sure from
   titles of their purpose.
   
   My  question  referred really to Windows XP, as
 I am only just getting
   to grips with Linux.
  
  First of all, it has nothing to do with LINUX.
  
  This is FreeBSD which follows the BSD family of
 UNIX and
  is not nearly the same.   In fact, most of us
 experience it
  as superior to LUNIX for server work.
 Check it out at:   http://www.freebsd.org/
  
  As for any Microsloth stuff, I couldn't help, but
 I would
  guess that you are wasting your time trying to do
 anything
  of that sophistication in MS.
  
  Finally, when you post questions or responses on
 the list, you should
  always include the list in your responses (as a
 cc).
  
  jerry
  
  
   I  had  read  an article recently, which I can
 no longer find, that to
   get  around  the  limitation, under windows XP,
 of the number of named
   partitions  that  one  can  use,  that 
 apparently  one  can mount a
   partition,  be  it  a  sector  of a hard drive,
 or a removeable drive,
   within  a  directory. ( I believe the article
 said directory, it might
   have  ben  a folder ) The article was referring
 to the ability then to
   have  a  number of flash drives or external USB
 connected drives which
   could exceed the normal Windows limitation.
   
   I  am  running  a  piece of software, hyperOS,
 which allows me to have
   multiple  bootable partitions, and currently I
 have around 20 on a 300
   Gig  hard  drive,  I wanted to add several USB
 memory stick drives and
   some partitions with different flavours of
 linux, and so am interested
   in  finding  out  how I can overcome the windows
 XP limitation. I felt
   that  also  I  needed  to  understand what the
 term mounting a drive
   actually  meant,  so  that  I  could  try  to 
 anticipate  any unusual
   behaviour,  particularly  with  boot  switching.
  From  your  email it
   appears  that  mounting  implies  letting the
 device driver know the
   address of the device upon which it is to work.
   
   Best regards and thanks for reply,
   Richard
   
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mounting a drive

2006-07-10 Thread rs
Hallo 
Could  someone  explain  exactly what is meant by mounting a disk. I
understand  that it is making a disk available for use, but would like
to understand the implications of the term and what abilities it
confers.

Part  of  the  purpose of the question is that I am trying to find out
how  I  can  have more partitions and detachable drives than there are
letters in the alphabet.

Best Regards,
Richard Shoebridge


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Re: Mounting a drive

2006-07-10 Thread Fabian Keil
rs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could  someone  explain  exactly what is meant by mounting a disk. I
 understand  that it is making a disk available for use, but would like
 to understand the implications of the term and what abilities it
 confers.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mount-unmount.html
 
 Part  of  the  purpose of the question is that I am trying to find out
 how  I  can  have more partitions and detachable drives than there are
 letters in the alphabet.

FreeBSD has no number of letters in the alphabet limitation.
Are you aware of the fact that this isn't a Windows specific mailing
list?

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Re: Mounting a drive

2006-07-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hallo 
 Could  someone  explain  exactly what is meant by mounting a disk. I
 understand  that it is making a disk available for use, but would like
 to understand the implications of the term and what abilities it
 confers.

Mounting connects the mount point to the device driver.
After the mount, references to the mount point, cause it to 
talk to the device driver.

 Part  of  the  purpose of the question is that I am trying to find out
 how  I  can  have more partitions and detachable drives than there are
 letters in the alphabet.

I don't know what you mean by detachable drives - do you mean removable,
hot-swap, unmount-able,  whatever?

Any drive - except root can be unmounted.   You can mount only the 
filesystems you want to use at the time, regardless of how many
physical drives are connected to the box.

On each disk device whether single drive or raid, you are allowed up 
to 4 slices (1-4) and within each slice, 8 partitions (a-h).  But, 
partition c is generally reserved.   A partition is turned in to a
filesystem with the newfs(8) utility.  You can have as many drives as 
your controllers can talk to.   

Every filesystem refers to a single partition.   A partition/filesystem
is unseen by the system except for some utilities that talk to devices 
directly such as fsck(8) or dd(1) unless it is mounted.

jerry

 
 Best Regards,
 Richard Shoebridge
 
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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive (solved!)

2005-07-06 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen



[snip]



Hi and thanks for all help!

Seems like I have found a sollution (thanks to this excellent tutorial 
http://freebsd.peon.net/tutorials/10/ and the help from the mailinglist 
members):


One thing: I still don't understand how I should know that the device is 
rda0 or rda0c or even da0 sometimes in the example below. If someone could 
explain I'd be happy :-)


# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda0 count=2
2+0 records in
2+0 records out
1024 bytes transferred in 0.040405 secs (25343 bytes/sec)

# disklabel -Brw da0 auto

# newfs /dev/rda0c
Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 97.
/dev/rda0c: 196608 sectors in 48 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors
96.0MB in 1 cyl groups (97 c/g, 194.00MB/g, 12288 i/g)
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 32

# mount /dev/da0c /zip

# df -h
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a   126M35M81M30%/
/dev/ad0s1f   252M22K   232M 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1g   5.1G   760M   3.9G16%/usr
/dev/ad0s1e   252M   2.9M   229M 1%/var
/dev/ad1s1e   3.0G   405M   2.3G14%/backup
procfs4.0K   4.0K 0B   100%/proc
/dev/da0c  94M   2.0K87M 0%/zip

Best regards,
Andreas


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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive (solved!)

2005-07-06 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen

* Andreas Widerøe Andersen [2005-07-06 10:42 +0200]
  Hi and thanks for all help!
  
  Seems like I have found a sollution (thanks to this excellent tutorial
  http://freebsd.peon.net/tutorials/10/ and the help from the mailinglist
  members):


I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, so I'm not sure if this 
was ever an issue, or if it has been discussed. But when I used ZIP disks 
some two to three years ago, I had some issues with password-protected and 
read-only disks. I found a solution for that sending raw commands to the 
device using camcontrol. If you're interested, I could try to dig up my 
notes on the matter.

At that time there was no command line utilities I could find that would 
set these bits on the disks.


Regadrs, 
Svein Halvor
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Trouble mounting Zip drive

2005-07-05 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen

Hi,
I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11 RELEASE 
system:


- From boot, this is what I see:

da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
da0: IOMEGA ZIP 100 E.08 Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 3.300MB/s transfers
da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C)

- In my /etc/fstab i have this line:

/dev/da0s4  /zipufs rw,noauto   0   0

I have mkdir a /zip directory

This is the problem:

$ mount /zip
mount: /dev/da0s4: Operation not permitted

I have tried many things now, but can't make things work.

Any suggestion to what I do wrong?

Thanks!
Andreas

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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive

2005-07-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200
Andreas Widerøe Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11
 RELEASE  system:
 
 - From boot, this is what I see:
 
 da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
 da0: IOMEGA ZIP 100 E.08 Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da0: 3.300MB/s transfers
 da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C)
 
 - In my /etc/fstab i have this line:
 
 /dev/da0s4  /zipufs rw,noauto   0 
  0
 
 I have mkdir a /zip directory
 
 This is the problem:
 
 $ mount /zip
 mount: /dev/da0s4: Operation not permitted

did you try mounting it as root ?
(and what does /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg say about it ?)

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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive

2005-07-05 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen

At 17:19 05.07.2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200
Andreas Widerøe Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11
 RELEASE  system:

 - From boot, this is what I see:

 da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
 da0: IOMEGA ZIP 100 E.08 Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da0: 3.300MB/s transfers
 da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C)

 - In my /etc/fstab i have this line:

 /dev/da0s4  /zipufs rw,noauto   0
  0

 I have mkdir a /zip directory

 This is the problem:

 $ mount /zip
 mount: /dev/da0s4: Operation not permitted

did you try mounting it as root ?
(and what does /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg say about it ?)


Uhh.. embarrasing :-O (yes, I was not root!

Well, still have a problem as root (I've had this problem from the start 
when I WAS logged in as root):


# mount /zip
mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block

/Andreas


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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive

2005-07-05 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote:


At 17:19 05.07.2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200
Andreas Widerøe Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11
 RELEASE  system:


snip


did you try mounting it as root ?
(and what does /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg say about it ?)



Uhh.. embarrasing :-O (yes, I was not root!

Well, still have a problem as root (I've had this problem from the 
start when I WAS logged in as root):


# mount /zip
mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block

/Andreas



Is the filesystem really ufs as noted in /etc/fstab?  IIRC,
trying to mount a non-ufs filesystem as ufs will give this
error.  Other possibilities include a bad disk ... :-(

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive

2005-07-05 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 05:44:17PM +0200, Andreas Wider?e Andersen wrote:

[...]
 # mount /zip
 mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block

Your ZIP disk hasn't been formatted as UFS, I would try `msdos'
instead.
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Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive

2005-07-05 Thread Mike Jeays
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 15:35, Jonathan Chen wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 05:44:17PM +0200, Andreas Wider?e Andersen wrote:
 
 [...]
  # mount /zip
  mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block
 
 Your ZIP disk hasn't been formatted as UFS, I would try `msdos'
 instead.

Try mount -t msdos /dev/da0s4 /zip on the command line

If that doesn't work, try da0s1 instead.

fstab should say:


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Mounting hard drive from a live cd?

2004-12-12 Thread Jorge Mario G.
hi there
how do I mount the hard drive from a live cd?
I\m using fressbie


thanks

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mounting floppy drive

2004-11-10 Thread Choy Kho Yee
I found something funny regarding mounting floppy drive by normal user.
I set up everything needed for a normal user to mount a FDD according 
to the handbook.
I booted up the box, type mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 ~/floppy and it 
said I dont
have the permission. Then, I su and do that again. Then umount the 
drive.
Exit from su to return to a normal user. And I tried the above command 
again
and this time I successfully mounted the drive.

Is this normal?
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mounting ntfs drive fails

2003-01-27 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hey,
I have a primary master disk drive which has winxp installed and is ad0s1
My secondary slave drive is ad2:
a) ad2s1 slice is a ntfs partition  and
b) ad2s2a-f is freebsd!
I can mount without problems the ntfs slice ad2s1

When I try to mount my primary master which has xp installed I get the 
following error in /var/log/messages:

Jan 27 13:13:53 lucifer /kernel: ad0s1: slice extends beyond end of 
disk: truncating from 78140097 to 4408785 sectors
Jan 27 13:13:53 lucifer /kernel: ntfs_loadntnode: BREAD FAILED
Jan 27 13:13:53 lucifer /kernel: ntfs_vget: CAN'T LOAD ATTRIBUTES FOR INO: 0

What can I do to solve the problem?
Thanks a lot
Didier



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