Re: Parental Controls

2004-10-22 Thread Joe Kraft

Joe Kraft wrote:
For me it meets the overall monitoring requirement, but so burdensome as 
to make e-mail a pain for them.  
Sorry, missed a word here.  I meant "..., but NOT so burdensome..."
Joe.
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Re: Parental Controls

2004-10-21 Thread Joe Kraft

Geert Hendrickx wrote:
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 01:42:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

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I believe this road is the way to go, I'm using postfix so if this exact 
solution doesn't work there is certainly a similar one.

Yeah, ok, right.
When you can get postfix to do this, let us know how you did it.
Ted

In postfix's main.cf, set always_bcc = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It forwards all incoming and outgoing mail to the address specified.  

GH
OK, so what I did is similar to what Geert recommended.  While I was 
looking up always_bcc, I found the sender_bcc_map and receiver_bcc_map, 
using the two of those I can specify which accounts to apply that for 
instead of blindly applying it to the whole site.

After I had that working, being one to not leave well enough alone, I 
set up up a virtual mail address to log these mails and allow us to 
review them and delete them.

For me it meets the overall monitoring requirement, but so burdensome as 
to make e-mail a pain for them.  Thinking this through and speculating a 
bit, I could come up with a solution similar to the milter which puts 
stuff into a logfile by defining a transport that does that in the 
master.cf file.

Thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction.
Joe.
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Re: Parental Controls

2004-10-13 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 01:42:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Kraft
> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Parental Controls
> > 
> > 
> > I believe this road is the way to go, I'm using postfix so if this exact 
> > solution doesn't work there is certainly a similar one.
> > 
> 
> Yeah, ok, right.
> 
> When you can get postfix to do this, let us know how you did it.
> 
> Ted

In postfix's main.cf, set always_bcc = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It forwards all incoming and outgoing mail to the address specified.  

GH

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RE: Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Aliasing only captures incoming, not outgoing, mail.

Ted

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Crist
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:39 PM
> To: Joe Kraft
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Parental Controls
> 
> 
> On Oct 9, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Joe Kraft wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
> > screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.
> >
> > I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound 
> > communications would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it 
> > could be as easy as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're 
> > sending.
> >
> > From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
> > quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
> > amendment, parenting type replies.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe.
> >
> 
> I know with sendmail, this is something as simple as aliasing their 
> account.  give them some arbitrary username, and alias that to their 
> email address.  alias that email address to you your account.
> 
> HTH
> -
> Eric F Crist
> Secure Computing Networks
> 
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Re: Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Eric Crist
On Oct 9, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Joe Kraft wrote:
I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.

I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound 
communications would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it 
could be as easy as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're 
sending.

From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
amendment, parenting type replies.

Thanks,
Joe.
I know with sendmail, this is something as simple as aliasing their 
account.  give them some arbitrary username, and alias that to their 
email address.  alias that email address to you your account.

HTH
-
Eric F Crist
Secure Computing Networks


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RE: Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
There is a sendmail milter that copies all in and out mail to
a file which you can of course later review.

I would recommend against moderating/approving.  You want your
monitoring to be as unobtrusive as possible so the kids aren't 
encouraged to get hotmail or yahoo e-mail accounts and access
them from a webinterface at the library, etc.

Ted

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Kraft
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Parental Controls
> 
> 
> I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
> screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.
> 
> I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound communications 
> would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it could be as easy 
> as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're sending.
> 
>  From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
> quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
> amendment, parenting type replies.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe.
> 
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Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Joe Kraft
I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.

I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound communications 
would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it could be as easy 
as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're sending.

From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
amendment, parenting type replies.

Thanks,
Joe.
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