Re: 64-bits platform question
* Aard Nerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Are you sure you are installing FreeBSD for amd64? Don't install FreeBSD for ia64, as ia64 is not the same as EM64T. EM64T is Intel's implementation of x86-64. -- Ed Schouten [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://g-rave.nl/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
64-bits platform question
Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Any clues, thanks in advance. Cheers / Me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 02:35:58PM -0500, Aard Nerd wrote: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Because you inserted your windows 95 CD instead??? Seriously, give us a hint here about what you did and what went wrong :) Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
At 02:35 PM 2/21/2007, you wrote: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Any clues, thanks in advance. You've given us no indication as to what errors you are getting. It appears by the motherboard specs (that I looked up) you probably need to be trying FreeBSD/amd64. Feel free to try that (I've noticed a lot of people misunderstand the i386/amd64/ia64 names, and try to install ia64 on the wrong hardware) If that doesn't resolve the issue, please give us something to work with. P.S. for the record, I hate the architecture names amd64/ia64 ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
In response to Aard Nerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? You provided no details, but I'm guessing you're trying to install the ia64 version of FreeBSD on an EM64T system. They are not compatible. The EM64T technology is compatible with the amd64 platform. The amd64 version of FreeBSD will work perfectly with EM64T systems. On a side note -- a LOT of people have been making this mistake recently. Can anyone think of a way to make it more obvious that people are downloading the wrong isos? -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
Aard Nerd wrote: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Any clues, thanks in advance. Cheers / Me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you use the amd64 isos for the installation? Patrick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 02:35:58PM -0500, Aard Nerd wrote: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Any clues, thanks in advance. Intel has two 64-bit architectures - you probably downloaded the disk for the wrong one. On one hand they have the IA64 architecture which they originally intended to be the successor to the IA32 (aka x86 or i386) architecture. IA64 never became very popular however. AMD created their own 64 bit architecture - AMD64 (aka x86-64) which had the big advantage of being backwards compatible with the x86 architecture. Eventually Intel too started to implement chips around the AMD64 architecture - except they called it EM64T. FreeBSD supports both the ia64 and amd64 architectures. Unless you have a computer with an Itanium or Itanium 2 CPU (which you do not have) you want to install the amd64 version of FreeBSD and not ia64. (Or the i386 version since that will also work fine, albeit only in 32-bit mode.) -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
On a side note -- a LOT of people have been making this mistake recently. Can anyone think of a way to make it more obvious that people are downloading the wrong isos? -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. Short of renaming the architectures from amd64/ia64, it's doubtful. a lot of people go directly tot he ftp server or torrent sites to get the ISO, so they would never see the big warning on the freebsd.org homepage (and even fewer would read it in a ftp motd) Of course, my two cents. Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
On 2/21/07, Aard Nerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Any clues, thanks in advance. Cheers / Me. It would be helpful to know exactly what hurdles you are encountering attempting to install the OS. Did you download the AMD64 port of FreeBSD (AMD is the developer of the architecture that Intel calls EM64T, so the name amd64 also refers to em64t platforms). If you are attempting to install the IA64 port of FreeBSD then you are using the wrong architecture. IA64 is for Itanium only (and is completely different from EM64T and AMD64 and i386). -- Coleman Kane ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
On 02/21/07 13:35, Aard Nerd wrote: Hi list, as far as I know Intel 64 architecture (formerly known as Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology, or Intel EM64T) enables 64-bit computing on desktop when combined with supporting software. If I am right, 64-bit computing (on Intel architecture) requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T architecture. So I bought an ASUS P4P800-VM with a 3.0GHz processor that supports Intel EM64T and 1Gb of Infineon PC3200 RAM memory. The system is ok...so why I can't install BSD 64 bits with my system ??? Any clues, thanks in advance. Which CD did you try to install with, and what error/problem did you get? There's not much info here to help you with.. Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bits platform question
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a side note -- a LOT of people have been making this mistake recently. Can anyone think of a way to make it more obvious that people are downloading the wrong isos? The cheapest solution is probably having a pile of symlinks on the FTP site so that everywhere amd64 appears under pub/FreeBSD, there is an equivalent em64t name that just points to it (existing symlinks, directories and ISO images). Maybe add some bigger notes that the amd64 distribution should be used on EM64T CPUs. Possibly a README file in the most used ia64 directories noting that if you have an EM64T, you are in the wrong place. -- Peter Jeremy pgpo3Tp25Hvba.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Platform question
Hello, I am very interested in using FreeBSD on my old Compaq box, but the only problem is, I can't seem to find where Windows holds the system information. (Stupid Windows) Does anyone have any ideas or know which port I should use? Huh???I can't think of anything you could learn from Windows that would tell you which port you would use. Do you mean which hardware platform version of FreeBSD? Well, if the box was running MS windows, you want FreeBSD for the i386 platform. Also, I don't think anything Compaq has put out in the last 10 years would be anything but i386. Maybe you need to get on the FreeBSD web site: http://www.freebsd.org/ and do a bunch of reading - follow various links on that page - before getting started. Also, you might want to go throught the FAQs and even some online publications such as articles from onlamp.com.This will help you understand the bigger picture. jerry Thanks in advance for any help, Mike ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Platform question
Micheal Mand wrote: Hello, I am very interested in using FreeBSD on my old Compaq box, but the only problem is, I can't seem to find where Windows holds the system information. (Stupid Windows) Does anyone have any ideas or know which port I should use? Thanks in advance for any help, Mike Welcome to FreeBSD! I wouldn't worry **too much** about what Windows thinks about the hardware... include #disclaimer.h Backup your data and go to the Project's site... find the paragraph that references freshly formatted floppies and these instructions and go for it! In the rare event that you aren't able to install FBSD, you can reinstall M$ and restore you data and be OK In my experience, M$ products do have some problems, but I'm not sure that these will compare to the likelihood that Compaq used some kind of 'fritzy' hardware and their BIOS is typically a terror;it may be that it's an old box with onboard everything and a lot of stuff that's either outdated or was m/l Windows only at the time (modems tended, in the past, to be a problem here...also some hardware manufacturers are reluctant to release technical data to Open Source developers, and others are defunct) those issues are more likely to cause problems with FreeBSD installation or usage, although I do understand how difficult it can be to get real hardware data from certain versions of Windows(R). My advice on _that_: open the box and write down every number and manufacturer you see and check them against the HCL on the Project web site for the release you wish to install (which is probably 5.3-RELEASE). The platform, as Jerry says, is i386, which is the Project's code for IBM PC compatible architecture (as opposed to, say, PowerPC, Alpha, PC-98-[Japan] Mainframes, etc...) and that is what most of the documentation will be pointed towards, as i386 counts for the large majority of all FreeBSD (as well as other OS) installations... Have fun with FreeBSD! Kevin KInsey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Platform question
Hello, I am very interested in using FreeBSD on my old Compaq box, but the only problem is, I can't seem to find where Windows holds the system information. (Stupid Windows) Does anyone have any ideas or know which port I should use? Thanks in advance for any help, Mike ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Platform question
I'm sorry for my ignorance, but what the hell are you talking about? What does Windows have to do with your desire to install freebsd? Best Regards, Anton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micheal Mand Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Platform question Hello, I am very interested in using FreeBSD on my old Compaq box, but the only problem is, I can't seem to find where Windows holds the system information. (Stupid Windows) Does anyone have any ideas or know which port I should use? Thanks in advance for any help, Mike ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.0 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.0 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
