RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
This is not an cable problem. I can use the 5.3 cdrom and the install goes with out a problem. But when I use the 5.4 cdrom on the same PC I get error message no hard drive found. Then I use the 5.3 cdrom again on the same PC and the install goes with out a problem. I have re-downloaded the 5.4 disc1.iso file, run md5 to verify it good then burned it to cdrom for the second time and still it will not work. If it was HD cable problem I would get same error on both 5.3 and 5.4. Even tried building the bootable floppies from yesterdays 20050516 snapshot for 5.4 and it also gave no disk found error. Is this a bug with 5.4 and should I submit a bug report. I am open to any other ideas of how to debug this or work around this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
I have been using the same workbench PC to test the building of the install cdrom from disc1.iso and miniinst.iso since version 3.0 through 5.3 without any problems. The 5.3 miniinst and disc1 work as expected. 5.4 does not have an miniinst.iso so used disc1. When 5.4 disc1 install cdrom is used, sysinstall(standerd) option gives error msg (No hard disk found). Then using the 5.3 disc1 cdrom install proceeds as expected. I can also run ms/dos fdisk format on the HD without any problems. The hard drive is an western digital 310100 10GB 33 udma on ata0 as master with the slave unused. Normally cabled with 80 pin cable. Have tried with 40 pin cable and get same error message. Even tried 5.4 install cdrom against my production server/gateway box which is running 4.10 on a western digital 24300 4GB 33 udma and get the (No hard disk found) msg again. Them tried the 5.3 cd and it found the hard drive on the production box. Then I used an western digital 102AA 10GB 66 udma HD and 5.4 found the HD and installed just fine. Looks like udma 33 support is not working in 5.4 Anybody have 5.4 installed on a udma 33 HD from a install cdrom? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:10:39 -0400 From: fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have been using the same workbench PC to test the building of the install cdrom from disc1.iso and miniinst.iso since version 3.0 through 5.3 without any problems. The 5.3 miniinst and disc1 work as expected. 5.4 does not have an miniinst.iso so used disc1. When 5.4 disc1 install cdrom is used, sysinstall(standerd) option gives error msg (No hard disk found). Then using the 5.3 disc1 cdrom install proceeds as expected. I can also run ms/dos fdisk format on the HD without any problems. The hard drive is an western digital 310100 10GB 33 udma on ata0 as master with the slave unused. Normally cabled with 80 pin cable. Have tried with 40 pin cable and get same error message. Even tried 5.4 install cdrom against my production server/gateway box which is running 4.10 on a western digital 24300 4GB 33 udma and get the (No hard disk found) msg again. Them tried the 5.3 cd and it found the hard drive on the production box. Then I used an western digital 102AA 10GB 66 udma HD and 5.4 found the HD and installed just fine. Looks like udma 33 support is not working in 5.4 Anybody have 5.4 installed on a udma 33 HD from a install cdrom? Yes, on an old laptop: atapci0: Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller port [...etc.] ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 [...] ad0: 6194MB IBM-DADA-26480/AD60A4AA [13424/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Works fine. I'd guess the ATA controller chipset is more important than the drive model in diagnosing this. There has been some discussion of possible (not confirmed) ATA controller problems on freebsd-stable recently, although they seem to be saying it started in 5.3 RELEASE. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of fbsd_user Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive Power management and APIC have been bios disabled since version FreeBSD 3.4 version so that is not the problem. I tried selecting safe option to boot and still get same error 'no hard disk found. My hard drive is an western digital 310100 on ata0 as master. When using this 5.4 install cd on other pc/ motherboard/ hard drive combos I get same error. I think there is something wrong with the build process of the disc1.iso file. I don't think there is anything wrong with the build process of disc1.iso. I think instead that someone made a change in the atapi driver that broke this. I have a Intel Desktop Motherboard VC820 that this exact thing happened to. In my case, I fortunately was running a Hipoint RAID card in it so the only thing that got wacked was the system now does not recognize that there is a CDROM on the secondary onboard IDE controller. Last week I had it running FreeBSD 4.11 just fine. (not on the RAID controller) I had assumed that using the RAID controller made it so that the onboard ATAPI controller had some problem, but after seeing this post it is clear that they broke the driver. DO you want to file a PR or should I? Ted -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive Ted. I filed a PR on the missing miniinst.iso file. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80861 And it's not been addressed yet. So if you have some pull in getting PR's worked on then you should file the PR on this problem. As I see this, it's a show stopper in distributing 5.4 stable and needs to be addressed immediately because all the mirror FTP sites are populated with non-functional disc1 iso files. Here are some more details from the boot of disc1. The btx loader issues this messages bios drive C: is disk1 and near the end of the boot messages I get ata1-master: pio=0x0c wdma=0x22 udma=0x42 cable=40pin ata1-master; setting pio4 on VIA 82C596B chip Please send me the PR number after you report this so I can track it. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
PR i386/81082 Once again, I don't think the problem is in the build process they used for making the ISO. As a matter of fact I just yesterday did a 5.4 install on a system, booting from CD, which I burned from disc1.iso that I downloaded from one of the FTP mirrors, on the one machine I mentioned in the PR that didn't have a problem. I think the problem is in the driver. If you go to the CVS tree it is obvious that they have been dealing with these issues. For example, check out comments like Fix more ATAPI breakage. Apparently some devices are very picky on details :) made just 2 days ago, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ata/ You also might consider that according to the device driver output your running a 40pin non-UDMA cable on what looks like a UDMA drive, which is a no-no, it might simply be a cabling issue with bad cables in your system. If you really do have an 80 pin cable then try exchanging it with another one, and remember, the blue connector goes to the adapter card, the black connector to the drive, and the grey to the secondary drive, if there is one. I don't have any more pull getting PR's worked on, but I have found that if they are properly filed then they get worked on faster. For example, the PR system isn't an appropriate place for complaining that a mirror site is missing miniinst.iso file - you should contact the mirror administrator of the mirror in question, directly. And you might also consider that there is a 20MB file named 5.4-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso in the release directory - see for example: ftp://ftp13.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/ and that there IS NOT a miniinst.iso file in the master FTP location, see: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/ I would guess maybe they renamed it? Also, you cannot assume a mirror site is going to have a good copy of stable anyway. You can only assume mirrors are going to be accurate for RELEASES, as there's always propagation time from when changes are made. If your traking snapshots you should be using ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ Ted Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of fbsd_user Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 4:41 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of fbsd_user Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive Power management and APIC have been bios disabled since version FreeBSD 3.4 version so that is not the problem. I tried selecting safe option to boot and still get same error 'no hard disk found. My hard drive is an western digital 310100 on ata0 as master. When using this 5.4 install cd on other pc/ motherboard/ hard drive combos I get same error. I think there is something wrong with the build process of the disc1.iso file. I don't think there is anything wrong with the build process of disc1.iso. I think instead that someone made a change in the atapi driver that broke this. I have a Intel Desktop Motherboard VC820 that this exact thing happened to. In my case, I fortunately was running a Hipoint RAID card in it so the only thing that got wacked was the system now does not recognize that there is a CDROM on the secondary onboard IDE controller. Last week I had it running FreeBSD 4.11 just fine. (not on the RAID controller) I had assumed that using the RAID controller made it so that the onboard ATAPI controller had some problem, but after seeing this post it is clear that they broke the driver. DO you want to file a PR or should I? Ted -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive Ted. I filed a PR on the missing miniinst.iso file. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80861 And it's not been addressed yet. So if you have some pull in getting PR's worked on then you should file the PR on this problem. As I see this, it's a show stopper in distributing 5.4 stable and needs to be addressed immediately because all the mirror FTP sites are populated with non-functional disc1 iso files. Here are some more details from the boot of disc1. The btx loader issues this messages bios drive C: is disk1 and near the end of the boot messages I get ata1-master: pio=0x0c wdma=0x22 udma=0x42 cable=40pin ata1-master; setting pio4 on VIA 82C596B chip Please send me the PR number after you report this so I can track it. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive You also might consider that according to the device driver output your running a 40pin non-UDMA cable on what looks like a UDMA drive, which is a no-no, it might simply be a cabling issue with bad cables in your system. If you really do have an 80 pin cable then try exchanging it with another one, and remember, the blue connector goes to the adapter card, the black connector to the drive, and the grey to the secondary drive, if there is one. You can only assume mirrors are going to be accurate for RELEASES, as there's always propagation time from when changes are made. If your traking snapshots you should be using ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ Ted * There is a 80 pin cable and its good because I tested it in another pc. But your comments about snapshots is very interesting. I did not know about this. I checked the contents at the URL you posted. It looks like an install cd layout. Is there some command, script, or utility that will download and burn a cd from a snapshot? Is there any documentation on these snapshots and how to use one? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
I don't have any more pull getting PR's worked on, but I have found that if they are properly filed then they get worked on faster. For example, the PR system isn't an appropriate place for complaining that a mirror site is missing miniinst.iso file - you should contact the mirror administrator FWIW: There is no miniinst. I'm pretty sure they intend it to be so. I've been hearing talk for many months regarding the changes in disc ISOs. I'm sure its documented somewhere (though I could not find it). You could search the archives. At least you can start with the release announcement... http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/announce.html At the bottom it shows they produced no mini installation. (as evidenced by the MD5s) -- Regards, Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
-Original Message- From: fbsd_user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:39 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive There is a 80 pin cable and its good because I tested it in another pc. I understand you may have an 80 pin cable on there and that you think it must be good. But the output you posted showed that the FreeBSD device driver thinks you only have a 40 pin cable. Either that is a bug or the ata chipset cannot sense your 80 pin cable. The obvious thing to do is to try a different 80 pin cable. But your comments about snapshots is very interesting. I did not know about this. I checked the contents at the URL you posted. It looks like an install cd layout. Is there some command, script, or utility that will download and burn a cd from a snapshot? Is there any documentation on these snapshots and how to use one? Probably the FreeBSD handbook is the best place. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
On Sat, 14 May 2005, fbsd_user wrote: I have seen this problem on the questions list since 5.0 first can out as development version. Here 5.4 is now stable release and this problem is still not fixed. I have been using the same pc to test installing stable versions from miniinst.iso every version since 3.4 without any problems. Even 5.3-miniinst.iso worked just 2 weeks ago. The 5.4 stable does not have a miniinst.iso file so this time I used the disc1.iso to burn the install cd from and when booting from this cd I now get no hard drive found message from sysinstall (standard install) menu. This sure looks very strange to me as I can put in the cd burned from the 5.3-miniinst.iso file and the system installs just fine. Only difference is using disc1 this time. Even though the md5 CHECKSUM matched I downloaded and reburned disc1.iso again just to verify it was good. What hardware (motherboard, cpus, memory, etc.) are you using? Power management and APIC have been bios disabled since version FreeBSD 3.4 version so that is not the problem. I tried selecting safe option to boot and still get same error 'no hard disk found. My hard drive is an western digital 310100 on ata0 as master. When using this 5.4 install cd on other pc/ motherboard/ hard drive combos I get same error. You can hit Scroll Lock and use the arrow keys or page up/down to look at the boot messages. Near the bottom of the output should be the disk probe -- this may have more details. If not, try booting and selecting the verbose boot option. I think there is something wrong with the build process of the disc1.iso file. The miniinst.iso must be build using a different canned script that does not incorporated the bug that is in the disc1 build. Maybe the .ISO builds team needs to take a look at this problem. The only difference is the files included in the mkisofs run. The exact same files are used. And to continue on with this thought why does 5.4 NOT have a miniinst.iso file? That's a good question :-) I didn't realize we hadn't made one. -- Doug White| FreeBSD: The Power to Serve [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.FreeBSD.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of fbsd_user Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.4 install disc1 will not find hard drive Power management and APIC have been bios disabled since version FreeBSD 3.4 version so that is not the problem. I tried selecting safe option to boot and still get same error 'no hard disk found. My hard drive is an western digital 310100 on ata0 as master. When using this 5.4 install cd on other pc/ motherboard/ hard drive combos I get same error. I think there is something wrong with the build process of the disc1.iso file. I don't think there is anything wrong with the build process of disc1.iso. I think instead that someone made a change in the atapi driver that broke this. I have a Intel Desktop Motherboard VC820 that this exact thing happened to. In my case, I fortunately was running a Hipoint RAID card in it so the only thing that got wacked was the system now does not recognize that there is a CDROM on the secondary onboard IDE controller. Last week I had it running FreeBSD 4.11 just fine. (not on the RAID controller) I had assumed that using the RAID controller made it so that the onboard ATAPI controller had some problem, but after seeing this post it is clear that they broke the driver. DO you want to file a PR or should I? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
