Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
At 2002-11-07T06:48:32Z, Derrick Ryalls [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1200*1MB == 1.2GB, does it not? Yes, it does not. Usually, when talking computers, people use 2^10 which = 1024. So 1200 MB = 1.17 GB. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. I'm willing to call 1.17 as 1.2 for the sake of this thread, which started with the statement that 1200*1MB was breaking the 1TB limit. I think that 1.2GB is roughly as much smaller than 1TB as is 1.17GB, so I'm content with the rounding in this context. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
- Original Message - From: Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit At 2002-11-07T06:48:32Z, Derrick Ryalls [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1200*1MB == 1.2GB, does it not? Yes, it does not. Usually, when talking computers, people use 2^10 which = 1024. So 1200 MB = 1.17 GB. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. I'm willing to call 1.17 as 1.2 for the sake of this thread, which started with the statement that 1200*1MB was breaking the 1TB limit. I think that 1.2GB is roughly as much smaller than 1TB as is 1.17GB, so I'm content with the rounding in this context. :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. Well, to be as nitpicky as both of y'all are, the thread didn't *start* with the statement 1200*1MB is too big---looks from here as if that was the _fifth_ post. Does make you wonder, though, why we don't make *more* mistakes than we do, typing M when we meant G. Kirk, I still like you sighave you applied for copyright? Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
At 2002-11-07T21:37:11Z, DaleCo Help Desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, to be as nitpicky as both of y'all are, the thread didn't *start* with the statement 1200*1MB is too big---looks from here as if that was the _fifth_ post. To be very nitpicky, I guess I should've said subthread. :) Does make you wonder, though, why we don't make *more* mistakes than we do, typing M when we meant G. You should see me before that first cup of coffe. Kirk, I still like you sighave you applied for copyright? I snagged it from an Anonymous Coward on Slashdot. I guess that it's technically owned by noone (as per the Slashdot disclaimer), which would make it public domain. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
Pity I didn't know about this before I built two 1200 MB arrays. Linux and FreeBSD both died past 1 TB, so I had to make the array smaller. I have used NetBSD before, so this would not have been a problem. I should have done my homework. :-) Marco Radzinschi E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Walter wrote: This is no doubt heresy coming from a newbie especially, but I was reading that NetBSD can support at least up to 4TB: http://www.netbsd.org/Misc/features.html#large-filesystems Walter Lowell Gilbert wrote: Joseph Gleason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IIRC There was a 1TB limit on the size of any filesystem (or actually of any block device) in FreeBSD based the kernel internaly using a 512 byte block size and having a max of 2^31 blocks. (512*2^31 = 2^40 = 1TB) Do I remember correctly? Close, but not quite. The kernel doesn't deal with blocks internally, and the block size used by the filesystem is 16k by default. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions;FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Kirk Strauser Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit At 2002-11-07T02:31:38Z, Marco Radzinschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pity I didn't know about this before I built two 1200 MB arrays. Linux and FreeBSD both died past 1 TB, so I had to make the array smaller. 1200*1MB == 1.2GB, does it not? Yes, it does not. Usually, when talking computers, people use 2^10 which = 1024. So 1200 MB = 1.17 GB. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
Couldn't you just use NFS to bypass the 1TB restrictions? So when the main filesystem gets full, it spills over into nearby servers using the identical file system setup connected via fiber for top speed. This would technically only limit your system space based on how many servers you could efficiently attach to the same array. So if you could attach say 10 of these servers efficiently, then you could technically have a 10TB array. At 10:48 PM 11/6/02 -0800, Derrick Ryalls wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions;FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Kirk Strauser Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit At 2002-11-07T02:31:38Z, Marco Radzinschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pity I didn't know about this before I built two 1200 MB arrays. Linux and FreeBSD both died past 1 TB, so I had to make the array smaller. 1200*1MB == 1.2GB, does it not? Yes, it does not. Usually, when talking computers, people use 2^10 which = 1024. So 1200 MB = 1.17 GB. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:48:32PM -0800, Derrick Ryalls wrote: At 2002-11-07T02:31:38Z, Marco Radzinschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pity I didn't know about this before I built two 1200 MB arrays. Linux and FreeBSD both died past 1 TB, so I had to make the array smaller. 1200*1MB == 1.2GB, does it not? Yes, it does not. Usually, when talking computers, people use 2^10 which = 1024. So 1200 MB = 1.17 GB. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. No you are wrong and right..vis-a-vis hard disks. Some manafacturers do use powers of 2, and some do not. And which one they use may be quite hard to find out until you install it, or maybe use a magnifying glass on the small print. I am running FreeBSD on a disk that is living proof of this ! -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
Joseph Gleason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IIRC There was a 1TB limit on the size of any filesystem (or actually of any block device) in FreeBSD based the kernel internaly using a 512 byte block size and having a max of 2^31 blocks. (512*2^31 = 2^40 = 1TB) Do I remember correctly? Close, but not quite. The kernel doesn't deal with blocks internally, and the block size used by the filesystem is 16k by default. Is this still the case? A client wants to build a system with over 1TB on a single filesystem and I need to see if FreeBSD can support it. These have existed for quite some time, but you can't do it out of the box. I don't have my hands on how to do it, but you should be able to track it down. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
This is no doubt heresy coming from a newbie especially, but I was reading that NetBSD can support at least up to 4TB: http://www.netbsd.org/Misc/features.html#large-filesystems Walter Lowell Gilbert wrote: Joseph Gleason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IIRC There was a 1TB limit on the size of any filesystem (or actually of any block device) in FreeBSD based the kernel internaly using a 512 byte block size and having a max of 2^31 blocks. (512*2^31 = 2^40 = 1TB) Do I remember correctly? Close, but not quite. The kernel doesn't deal with blocks internally, and the block size used by the filesystem is 16k by default. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
I was unable to get past 1 TB on 4.6.2-Release on i386. Marco Radzinschi E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Joseph Gleason wrote: IIRC There was a 1TB limit on the size of any filesystem (or actually of any block device) in FreeBSD based the kernel internaly using a 512 byte block size and having a max of 2^31 blocks. (512*2^31 = 2^40 = 1TB) Do I remember correctly? Is this still the case? A client wants to build a system with over 1TB on a single filesystem and I need to see if FreeBSD can support it. Thanks for your time. --Joe Gleason To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
