Re: HD Errors

2006-07-08 Thread Robert McIntosh

OK,

It's a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 120GB ATA/133 hard drive (EIDE).  It's 
in a Dell Dimension P133v.  I also have a Dell Optiplex GX1 which only 
supports a hard drive of 80 GB max.  This machine is at least as old as 
the optiplex, so it's likely to support at most 80 GB as well, not 120 GB.


I ran Maxtor's HD Diagnostic tools on the drive and the test, with the 
exception of the long, full test, came back as passed.  So, I have 
reasonable confidence that the problem isn't the drive.


FreeBSD says during drive formatting that there may be weird errors for 
drives misreporting size.  Are the errors that I'm seeing likely 
reflective of this?  What should my concern level be?


Thanks again,
Robert

Tamouh H. wrote:

Hi,

I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages and am 
concerned about the integrity of the hard drive:



ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
cd9660: RockRidge Extension
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
cd9660: RockRidge Extension
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
cd9660: RockRidge Extension
ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done
swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: #ad/0x20001, 
blkno: 5488, 

size: 4096
ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
Are the ad0 messages showing the hard drive is having 
hardware problems?


Many thanks,
Robert


Very likely, backup your important date, grab a HD manufacturer disk and test 
out the drive then post results here with the hard drive manufacture name/model.

Tamouh


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RE: HD Errors

2006-07-08 Thread Gayn Winters
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 Robert McIntosh
 Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:53 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: HD Errors
 
 
 OK,
 
 It's a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 120GB ATA/133 hard drive 
 (EIDE).  It's 
 in a Dell Dimension P133v.  I also have a Dell Optiplex GX1 
 which only 
 supports a hard drive of 80 GB max.  This machine is at least 
 as old as 
 the optiplex, so it's likely to support at most 80 GB as 
 well, not 120 GB.
 
 I ran Maxtor's HD Diagnostic tools on the drive and the test, 
 with the 
 exception of the long, full test, came back as passed.  So, I have 
 reasonable confidence that the problem isn't the drive.
 
 FreeBSD says during drive formatting that there may be weird 
 errors for 
 drives misreporting size.  Are the errors that I'm seeing likely 
 reflective of this?  What should my concern level be?
 
 Thanks again,
 Robert
 
 Tamouh H. wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages and am 
  concerned about the integrity of the hard drive:
 
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: #ad/0x20001, 
  blkno: 5488, 
  size: 4096
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  Are the ad0 messages showing the hard drive is having 
  hardware problems?
 
  Many thanks,
  Robert
  
  Very likely, backup your important date, grab a HD 
 manufacturer disk and test out the drive then post results 
 here with the hard drive manufacture name/model.
  
  Tamouh
  
Hello Robert,

Please don't top post.  It is difficult for someone joining the
conversation to understand what is going on and to help.

Have you taken Tamouh's advice and backed up your data?  If not, do it
now!

Regarding size:  What size differences do you see?  Maxtor's
diagnostics, BIOS, dmesg, fdisk, etc?  I doubt this is your problem.

Cables:  Be sure you've got good and proper cables, that the drive's
jumper is set appropriately to master or slave (and not to Auto), that
both ends are tight as is the power cable.

Heat:  Does the drive feel extraordinarily hot?  If so, replace it now!

Does FreeBSD eventually boot and run?  I.e., does it get past resettings
of the hard drive ad0?  If so, then you should definitely run the more
exhaustive diagnostics.  (Do this AFTER you are sure of your cabling and
AFTER your backup.)  Given your problem, I wouldn't put too much faith
in the quick diagnostics.  

You could try refreshing your drive:  
dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m

I notice the whole bus ata0 reset a couple times.  Do you have another
drive that you can put into that machine and see if you get the same
errors?  If so, you may just need to give up on that board.  You could
see if Dell has diagnostics for your P133v, and if they do, run them.

Most likely the errors you see in dmesg are occuring on most reads and
writes, and hence your performance is going to be bad.  It will also get
worse whether it is the bus or the drive.  If you can't find and fix
your problem, make sure your backups are frequent...

Do you have a small slice on your 120G drive that you could devote to
Red Hat (or Fedora)?  If so, and if it gives similar error messages,
then Dell support would help you.

Good luck,

-gayn



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RE: HD Errors

2006-07-08 Thread Tamouh H.
 
 
 Tamouh H. wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages and am 
  concerned about the integrity of the hard drive:
 
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: #ad/0x20001,
  blkno: 5488,
  size: 4096
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  Are the ad0 messages showing the hard drive is having hardware 
  problems?
 
  Many thanks,
  Robert
  
  Very likely, backup your important date, grab a HD 
 manufacturer disk and test out the drive then post results 
 here with the hard drive manufacture name/model.
  
  Tamouh
  
  
 
 OK,
 
 It's a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 120GB ATA/133 hard drive 
 (EIDE).  It's in a Dell Dimension P133v.  I also have a Dell 
 Optiplex GX1 which only supports a hard drive of 80 GB max.  
 This machine is at least as old as the optiplex, so it's 
 likely to support at most 80 GB as well, not 120 GB.
 
 I ran Maxtor's HD Diagnostic tools on the drive and the test, 
 with the exception of the long, full test, came back as 
 passed.  So, I have reasonable confidence that the problem 
 isn't the drive.
 
 FreeBSD says during drive formatting that there may be weird 
 errors for drives misreporting size.  Are the errors that I'm 
 seeing likely reflective of this?  What should my concern level be?
 
 Thanks again,
 Robert

Robert, I've seen bad drives passing the quick test but fail the long test. Do 
a long test , it could be couple of bad sectors on the drive failing, and this 
usually causes the short test to Pass.

Also, take Gayn suggestions, check the cables...etc. Try another good drive, if 
that gives the same problem then most likely something incomatible with the ATA 
controller! 

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RE: HD Errors

2006-07-03 Thread Tamouh H.
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages and am 
 concerned about the integrity of the hard drive:
 
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  cd9660: RockRidge Extension
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
  ata0: resetting devices .. done
  swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: #ad/0x20001, 
 blkno: 5488, 
  size: 4096
  ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
 
 Are the ad0 messages showing the hard drive is having 
 hardware problems?
 
 Many thanks,
 Robert

Very likely, backup your important date, grab a HD manufacturer disk and test 
out the drive then post results here with the hard drive manufacture name/model.

Tamouh


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