Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-09-17 12:33:30 -0600: My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. that whole thing is terribly overspec'd! do you know an mp3 player with such a spec? I don't. Well, you mention playing video, so that might change things a bit, still. Anyway, if you want to present the user with CD covers, you'll either need X or something capable of displaying graphics on the console (Linux framebuffer, or svgalib, comes to mind). I'd go for a console solution: less overhead, both computational and administrative. You'll need searchable storage for the CD/song titles and whatnot. *Tell FBSD to listen to a bill validator (http://www.videocan.com/bill_validator.html - currently waiting for info from them about interface) for credit inputs, and display it as an overlay on the screen (Let's say $1 buys 3 songs or 2 videos - display would show that) Looks like you can plug that into an LPT port. *Once it's determined that there's credits in the machine have FBSD listen to a keypad (telephone pad style) for input in the style of , first 2 being album number, second 2 track number. *Queue up and keep track of songs to play. mp3s/CDs will launch a visualization studio to display the music vis to the TVs, or launch videos to play on TVs. *When there's no activity, it will enter a screensaver mode where it changes screens on monitor. All in all, I think that you need is a daemon that will collect data from the bill slot (parallel port?) and a keypad (serial port?), mysqld (the librarized version of the server might be nice), and something to play the music, mp3 / ogg (I'd go for Ogg Vorbis). Something along a 300MHz Celeron/Duron w/ 128 MB RAM would IMO be more than enough. BTW, I was thinking about doing something similar, with one of those micro-ATX boards, an LCD display (one of those found on CD players, you know :), a programmable remote controller, and NetBSD. Would make a nice cd player. :) (I don't have the knowledge to do the electricity stuff, but a friend of mine has done this kind of things...) -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
I'm beginning to agree it is now overspec'ed. But only because I'm thinking now (thanks to input from you folks) about making a marketable version instead of one for my own pool hall. When I say jukebox, I mean ones like these: http://www.gameroomantiques.com/CDjukebox.htm http://www.wurlitzer-jukebox.com/showroom-omt.html Big showy pieces of eyecandy. A gorgeous hunk fof aluminum, with lights and bubblers, etc etc. My original thoughts where definately overkill, but it was for my own amusement, so it didn't really matter, ya know? Know I'm thinking of making something I can mass produce down the line. I had some time to reflect on the design, and my main problem I was facing was the visualizations of music. Initially I thought I'd need a fairly high output video card to be able to properly display the vis. in close to real time. My current rig @ 1024x768 with a Radeon 8000 can only run the Winamp vis full screen at 40fps with a noticeable delay in the music beats and the vis interpretation on the screen. Drop the window to a size where it hits 70fps or so and the music and vis stay in tune, so I figured a more powerful vid card was the answer. But I forgot that a standard TV resolution is only 640x480, so I should be able to get away with a lot less then top of the line. I'm going to try to test all this by using the 1Ghz Nehemiah Mini-ITX board ( http://www.mini-itx.com/store/default.asp?c=2#p243 ) with 256mb ram. Install a RAID card and setup 1 20Gb drive RAID 1 array and 1 100Gb RAID 1 array. 20Gb raid for FBSD and the 100GB RAID for media files. Then pick up the bill validator, buttons and what not and see if I can't make it work sans enclosure, which will save me a ton of cash. Someone suggested trying Freevo, so I'll see if I can't hack the interface of it to see if I can achieve what I want. If I was more of an artist I could mockup the overall look of the display I'm going for, but I'm not (I'll see if a friend of mine can tackle this part). Instead of worrying about making it idiot proof by using a lot of diffrent hardware like CFlash and such, I'll just use a small UPS that you can pick up for 30-40$ these days and just have it tell the system to do a clean shutdown when power is interupted. ** Jeremy D. Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tired of PayPal? Me too. Check out StormPay, it works the same way, with 110% less anal-retentiveness! http://www.stormpay.com/?193662 (Just my referral link, please help me earn a few cents :)) On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-09-17 12:33:30 -0600: My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. that whole thing is terribly overspec'd! do you know an mp3 player with such a spec? I don't. Well, you mention playing video, so that might change things a bit, still. Anyway, if you want to present the user with CD covers, you'll either need X or something capable of displaying graphics on the console (Linux framebuffer, or svgalib, comes to mind). I'd go for a console solution: less overhead, both computational and administrative. You'll need searchable storage for the CD/song titles and whatnot. *Tell FBSD to listen to a bill validator (http://www.videocan.com/bill_validator.html - currently waiting for info from them about interface) for credit inputs, and display it as an overlay on the screen (Let's say $1 buys 3 songs or 2 videos - display would show that) Looks like you can plug that into an LPT port. *Once it's determined that there's credits in the machine have FBSD listen to a keypad (telephone pad style) for input in the style of , first 2 being album number, second 2 track number. *Queue up and keep track of songs to play. mp3s/CDs will launch a visualization studio to display the music vis to the TVs, or launch videos to play on TVs. *When there's no activity, it will enter a screensaver mode where it changes screens on monitor. All in all, I think that you need is a daemon that will collect data from the bill slot (parallel port?) and a keypad (serial port?), mysqld (the librarized version of the server might be nice), and something to play the music, mp3 / ogg (I'd go for Ogg Vorbis).
Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
This is just a long shot, but have you had a look at Freevo? www.freevo.org It runs on FreeBSD David Hi gang, I was looking at purchasing a jukebox recently for a poolhall. When all is said and done, I found a refurbished 100 cd jukebox which I thought was really nice, until I heard the price - $4500. This is on par with a lot of older refurbished models, and the price can double for newer ones! So, the gears in my head started turning, and I mentally devised a plan to build my own jukebox that does more then your standard juke for a lot less money. Though I am unfortunately more of a Windows guy, I am thinking of turning to FBSD for this job. My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. Here's what I need to do: *Build a catalog of all music and videos on harddrive and CDs in changer, automatically 1-2 times a day or on demand. *Output video to a monitor which shows only the music list. For CD's/mp3s it will show the CD cover and a songlist. Typical jukebox style with CD's being numbered as well as song (EG. say NOFX's War on Errorism is listed as CD 22 and the song Mattersville is track 12, they'd enter 2212 as the song request). Show anywhere from 4-8 CD's and song info at a time (depending on screen size) *Interface with several buttons to control display. A set of NEXT PREV buttons which flip through the virtual catalog, and another set entitled Music and Videos which switch display *When pressing the Videos button, I'd like to be able to see the screen switch to a similar style as the above, only showing a screenshot of the video, artist name, song title, and album. *Tell FBSD to listen to a bill validator (http://www.videocan.com/bill_validator.html - currently waiting for info from them about interface) for credit inputs, and display it as an overlay on the screen (Let's say $1 buys 3 songs or 2 videos - display would show that) *Once it's determined that there's credits in the machine have FBSD listen to a keypad (telephone pad style) for input in the style of , first 2 being album number, second 2 track number. *Queue up and keep track of songs to play. mp3s/CDs will launch a visualization studio to display the music vis to the TVs, or launch videos to play on TVs. *When there's no activity, it will enter a screensaver mode where it changes screens on monitor. Stuff I'm thinking about adding but isn't necessary - search function, user inserted CDs (which lock CDtray until song/cd is through playing). Although I'm fairly certain FBSD can handle this, I wanted to ask the experts, to see if I'm right. I'm hoping to have a real easy to operate jukebox, so I don't want to have to many buttons, keyboards, etc there to confuse people. And if at all possible, I don't want to make mention that I'm using FBSD/PC hardware/etc inside (well, except for some powered by FreeBSD stickers on the back hehe). Let me know your thoughts! If I go forward with this, it's at least 2 years away, but I think the idea is fairly sound. Thanks, Jeremy Pavleck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
Forgot all about Freevo, I'll have to see how easy it is to make it bend to my ways (or, maybe the freevo developers would help me with it in exchange for some press + % of profits if I market it) Speaking of marketing it Someone said I should, which I didn't think about before, so I'm sort of thinking along the lines of idiot-proofing it. That way, if I do in fact decide to market it, I won't have a lot of reconstruction and rewriting of things to do. Along those lines, what's the best way to boot fbsd? Maybe a 1GB CF card for the R/W area, and everything else on a read only raid array for music, etc? When more music needs to be added, they flip a switch (or connect a master console) which mounts the media fs as r/w? I worry about the MTBF on the flash card being to low, which means a lot of failures. But I want to make it so you can kick the plug out of the wall, and no harm is done. Maybe a small UPS built into the jukebox that would do a clean shutdown if a powerloss occurs? Using CF cards, I could offer fairly easy system upgrades. I'll send you a new card, you plug it in and return the old one... I suppose do to the hey this is a marketable idea suggestions I'm moving from more of a let's build a pc into a huge wurlitzer style box into an embedded system. My only real goal is to make this thing bullet proof. I hate the way electronics are headed these days, (20gb seagate drive died on my server, drive was 2 years old. Replaced it with an 8 year old 1Gb that has yet to die on me. Then an IBM scsi2 drive died on me, and just the other day my 4 month old fujitsu drive is telling me I better low level it, because something is wrong) and don't want to be a part of it. Plus, although this would be a sensitive electronic device many magnitudes more complicated then a normal jukebox, if it can't be treated the same way it will make me and the components used look bad. So any more ideas? Sorry for the lil rant, ideas just popping into my head as I type this. Thanks again. ** Jeremy D. Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tired of PayPal? Me too. Check out StormPay, it works the same way, with 110% less anal-retentiveness! http://www.stormpay.com/?193662 (Just my referral link, please help me earn a few cents :)) On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, David L wrote: This is just a long shot, but have you had a look at Freevo? www.freevo.org It runs on FreeBSD David Hi gang, I was looking at purchasing a jukebox recently for a poolhall. When all is said and done, I found a refurbished 100 cd jukebox which I thought was really nice, until I heard the price - $4500. This is on par with a lot of older refurbished models, and the price can double for newer ones! So, the gears in my head started turning, and I mentally devised a plan to build my own jukebox that does more then your standard juke for a lot less money. Though I am unfortunately more of a Windows guy, I am thinking of turning to FBSD for this job. My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. Here's what I need to do: *Build a catalog of all music and videos on harddrive and CDs in changer, automatically 1-2 times a day or on demand. *Output video to a monitor which shows only the music list. For CD's/mp3s it will show the CD cover and a songlist. Typical jukebox style with CD's being numbered as well as song (EG. say NOFX's War on Errorism is listed as CD 22 and the song Mattersville is track 12, they'd enter 2212 as the song request). Show anywhere from 4-8 CD's and song info at a time (depending on screen size) *Interface with several buttons to control display. A set of NEXT PREV buttons which flip through the virtual catalog, and another set entitled Music and Videos which switch display *When pressing the Videos button, I'd like to be able to see the screen switch to a similar style as the above, only showing a screenshot of the video, artist name, song title, and album. *Tell FBSD to listen to a bill validator (http://www.videocan.com/bill_validator.html - currently waiting for info from them about interface) for credit inputs, and display it as an overlay on the screen (Let's say $1 buys 3 songs or 2 videos - display would show that) *Once it's determined that there's credits in the machine have FBSD listen to a
RE: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
I think the idea is fairly sound as well, tho you should confirm freebsd's support for the tv card, that is the only part that would be in your way. Also keep in mind , to develop such a device with acompanying software will run you much much more than 4500$. Jeff. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Pavleck Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is FreeBSD up to this job? Hi gang, I was looking at purchasing a jukebox recently for a poolhall. When all is said and done, I found a refurbished 100 cd jukebox which I thought was really nice, until I heard the price - $4500. This is on par with a lot of older refurbished models, and the price can double for newer ones! So, the gears in my head started turning, and I mentally devised a plan to build my own jukebox that does more then your standard juke for a lot less money. Though I am unfortunately more of a Windows guy, I am thinking of turning to FBSD for this job. My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. Here's what I need to do: *Build a catalog of all music and videos on harddrive and CDs in changer, automatically 1-2 times a day or on demand. *Output video to a monitor which shows only the music list. For CD's/mp3s it will show the CD cover and a songlist. Typical jukebox style with CD's being numbered as well as song (EG. say NOFX's War on Errorism is listed as CD 22 and the song Mattersville is track 12, they'd enter 2212 as the song request). Show anywhere from 4-8 CD's and song info at a time (depending on screen size) *Interface with several buttons to control display. A set of NEXT PREV buttons which flip through the virtual catalog, and another set entitled Music and Videos which switch display *When pressing the Videos button, I'd like to be able to see the screen switch to a similar style as the above, only showing a screenshot of the video, artist name, song title, and album. *Tell FBSD to listen to a bill validator (http://www.videocan.com/bill_validator.html - currently waiting for info from them about interface) for credit inputs, and display it as an overlay on the screen (Let's say $1 buys 3 songs or 2 videos - display would show that) *Once it's determined that there's credits in the machine have FBSD listen to a keypad (telephone pad style) for input in the style of , first 2 being album number, second 2 track number. *Queue up and keep track of songs to play. mp3s/CDs will launch a visualization studio to display the music vis to the TVs, or launch videos to play on TVs. *When there's no activity, it will enter a screensaver mode where it changes screens on monitor. Stuff I'm thinking about adding but isn't necessary - search function, user inserted CDs (which lock CDtray until song/cd is through playing). Although I'm fairly certain FBSD can handle this, I wanted to ask the experts, to see if I'm right. I'm hoping to have a real easy to operate jukebox, so I don't want to have to many buttons, keyboards, etc there to confuse people. And if at all possible, I don't want to make mention that I'm using FBSD/PC hardware/etc inside (well, except for some powered by FreeBSD stickers on the back hehe). Let me know your thoughts! If I go forward with this, it's at least 2 years away, but I think the idea is fairly sound. Thanks, Jeremy Pavleck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebs d-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Jeremy Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, I was looking at purchasing a jukebox recently for a poolhall. When all is said and done, I found a refurbished 100 cd jukebox which I thought was really nice, until I heard the price - $4500. This is on par with a lot of older refurbished models, and the price can double for newer ones! So, the gears in my head started turning, and I mentally devised a plan to build my own jukebox that does more then your standard juke for a lot less money. Though I am unfortunately more of a Windows guy, I am thinking of turning to FBSD for this job. My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. It's a clever idea. I'm certainly no expert, but I should think it would be a whole lot cheaper if you could dispense with the physical CD changer and just implement the music with mp3. I'm less sure about video - there might be legal issues with taking copy-protected DVDs and turning them into mpegs. Anyway, the more you do with software and the less with hardware, the less this thing will cost. regards, Robert ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
Indeed. I'm thinking the CD changer would just overly complicate things. Right now, I feel 500GB of RAID 5 SATA storage will probably provide enough space plus plenty of room to grow. If I don't have a search feature, odds are I'll end up just deleting/moving the files off and loading new ones on. About the movies, well - I will probbaly mention it to my lawyer, but with things like this I tend to just do it and wait for a CD letter to appear. Odds are I won't be yelled at for something like this, and it's somewhat of a grey area as it is. But I'll talk it over and see what the lawyer has to say. I'm pretty fired up about this whole thing, but I fear it's going to be a long and winding road, what with my meager income and overwhelming obstacles I have to face. Thanks for the input though, I appreciate it! ** Jeremy D. Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tired of PayPal? Me too. Check out StormPay, it works the same way, with 110% less anal-retentiveness! http://www.stormpay.com/?193662 (Just my referral link, please help me earn a few cents :)) On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Robert Storey wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Jeremy Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, I was looking at purchasing a jukebox recently for a poolhall. When all is said and done, I found a refurbished 100 cd jukebox which I thought was really nice, until I heard the price - $4500. This is on par with a lot of older refurbished models, and the price can double for newer ones! So, the gears in my head started turning, and I mentally devised a plan to build my own jukebox that does more then your standard juke for a lot less money. Though I am unfortunately more of a Windows guy, I am thinking of turning to FBSD for this job. My plan is to build a custom jukebox looking enclosure like everyone is used to seeing in bars, poolhalls, etc. In place of the CD changer I'd like to have a full PC (Thinking XP2800, 1GB RAM, 500Gb SATA RAID) built inside, connected to a CD changer that I can control. This way I can offer more then just CDs, but mp3s and videos as well. I'd like to pick up a nice vid card (Say an ATI Radeon 9xxx Pro series with S-Video out) and setup the S-Video side to stream videos/xmms mp3/cd visualizations to 6 TVs spread throughout the place. In place of the normal song selection screen you normally see, I'd like to place a 17 or 19 LCD that only display 4-8 CD covers song lists at a time. It's a clever idea. I'm certainly no expert, but I should think it would be a whole lot cheaper if you could dispense with the physical CD changer and just implement the music with mp3. I'm less sure about video - there might be legal issues with taking copy-protected DVDs and turning them into mpegs. Anyway, the more you do with software and the less with hardware, the less this thing will cost. regards, Robert ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD up to this job?
I'm thinking the CD changer would just overly complicate things. Oh, but there's something so _satisfying_ about watching the CD changer in motion. (I'm not kidding. That's why jukeboxes have a glass front.) Maybe you could simulate the changer with computer graphics? Right now, I feel 500GB of RAID 5 SATA storage will probably provide enough space plus plenty of room to grow. You can always swap the computing hardware out. Start small. Use CDs (and DVDs) for now to avoid additional copyright problems. but with things like this I tend to just do it and wait for a CD letter to appear. With the creative industries current focus, you're just begging for a CD letter if you do that. They're liable to raise a fuss about the public performance issues even if you have the CDs and DVDs themselves ready to show the thought police. (You thought the high price for jukeboxes was entirely because there isn't enough demand, right?) I'm pretty fired up about this whole thing, but I fear it's going to be a long and winding road, what with my meager income and overwhelming obstacles I have to face. Lots of other people are working on the same thing or similar things. Start small, get one thing working at a time, don't overload your fiscal or time budget. Don't overload your computing equipment, either -- no reason to try to serve separate media streams from the same CPU (or did I mis-read your original post?) unless the actual streaming is going to be done by slave CPUs. (No reason to tie fbsd down to read a keypad, either, but then maybe you want a virtual keypad on the screen instead of a physical keypad?) -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- When software is patentable, anything is patentable. (http://swpat.ffii.org) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
