Re: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-11 Thread Jerry McAllister

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
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> >Does anyone know of a reasonably priced one?  Our newer servers, we've 
> >been using HP servers, so that we have this built in, but I have 6 older 
> >servers that I'd love to be able to deal with remotely without headaches 
> >... I only need to be able to access one at a time ...
> >
> >I've tried the 'serial console' route, but if the server crashes, logging 
> >in to the serial console doesn't show you anything, whereas, with the HP 
> >'remote console' feature, its the same as a KVM, where running it does a 
> >screen refresh, so that I can see what is on the screen at the time of the 
> >crash ...
> >
> >
> >- --On Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:09:37 -0500 Derek Ragona 
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> >>At 09:55 AM 4/10/2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
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> >>>I hate it when a subject doesn't easily present itself ... but ...
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> >>>Is there something that I'm missing, such that if I add a keyboard to a
> >>>server
> >>>*after* rebooting it with no keyboard, that will have that keyboard
> >>>recognized?
> >>>
> >>>Basically, I have several remote servers, with no keyboards, but if I 
> >>>need a
> >>>tech to check something on the console (ie. the ethernet went down for 
> >>>some
> >>>reason), when they plug a keyboard back in again, there is no signal 
> >>>until
> >>>they
> >>>actually power cycle the machine ... which of course, is too late to do 
> >>>any
> >>>diagnosis :(
> >>>
> >>>Thx ...
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>This is a limitation of the hardware in the keyboards and the 
> >>motherboards.
> >>The only solution I have found is to use a KVM switch which keeps the
> >>keyboard and mouse ports active during bootups.
> >>
> >>-Derek
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> Aloha,
> 
> Reasonably priced in US $
> 
> You can get a KVM switch from Newegg.com for a little over $100. US.
> 
> Hawking Technology CS168 8 Port is what we installed in our rack here.

Is it operable from a network connection?   That seemed to be 
a main requirement.There are lots of KVMs that can be hooked up
to a monitor and keyboard and even a few that have some special control
port.  But, the ones that take a plug-in with a network cable to login
and control it tend to be quite expensive.

I would like to find an inexpensive one that takes a net connection as well.

jerry

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Re: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-11 Thread NetOpsCenter

Marc G. Fournier wrote:


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Does anyone know of a reasonably priced one?  Our newer servers, we've been 
using HP servers, so that we have this built in, but I have 6 older servers 
that I'd love to be able to deal with remotely without headaches ... I only 
need to be able to access one at a time ...


I've tried the 'serial console' route, but if the server crashes, logging in to 
the serial console doesn't show you anything, whereas, with the HP 'remote 
console' feature, its the same as a KVM, where running it does a screen 
refresh, so that I can see what is on the screen at the time of the crash ...



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At 09:55 AM 4/10/2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
   


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I hate it when a subject doesn't easily present itself ... but ...

Is there something that I'm missing, such that if I add a keyboard to a
server
*after* rebooting it with no keyboard, that will have that keyboard
recognized?

Basically, I have several remote servers, with no keyboards, but if I need a
tech to check something on the console (ie. the ethernet went down for some
reason), when they plug a keyboard back in again, there is no signal until
they
actually power cycle the machine ... which of course, is too late to do any
diagnosis :(

Thx ...
 


This is a limitation of the hardware in the keyboards and the motherboards.
The only solution I have found is to use a KVM switch which keeps the
keyboard and mouse ports active during bootups.

-Derek

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Aloha,

Reasonably priced in US $

You can get a KVM switch from Newegg.com for a little over $100. US.

Hawking Technology CS168 8 Port is what we installed in our rack here.


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RE: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-10 Thread Jerry Dunham
On 10 Apr 2007 at 18:24, Tamouh H. wrote:

> We've used StarTech KVM Over IP switches with both windows and BSD
> with no major issues. They're pretty much the most reasonably priced
> ones out there. 

I've also had excellent success with fairly inexpensive IOGear MiniView KVMs.  
In fact, I'm typing this through one right now.  I've used 2-port, 4-port and 8-
port, and have never had an issue, running both FreeBSD and Windows through 
them.  I've used a Cat5 extender (from StarTech, IIRC) with the 8-port version 
with no problem.  By contrast, some 2- and 4-port LinkSys KVMs I tried a few 
years ago were consistently flakey.

I did try a StarTech KVM once, and it had some problems that retired it to the 
spare equipment cabinet.  It was not the model Tamouh had success with, but a 
wired model that was set up to handle both PS/2 and USB keyboards and mice.  
(Most seem to be one or the other.)  It seemed like a good idea at the time.


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RE: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-10 Thread Tamouh H.
 

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> with no keyboard) ...
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> Does anyone know of a reasonably priced one?  Our newer 
> servers, we've been using HP servers, so that we have this 
> built in, but I have 6 older servers that I'd love to be able 
> to deal with remotely without headaches ... I only need to be 
> able to access one at a time ...
> 
> I've tried the 'serial console' route, but if the server 
> crashes, logging in to the serial console doesn't show you 
> anything, whereas, with the HP 'remote console' feature, its 
> the same as a KVM, where running it does a screen refresh, so 
> that I can see what is on the screen at the time of the crash ...
> 
> 
> - --On Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:09:37 -0500 Derek Ragona 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > At 09:55 AM 4/10/2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
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> >> I hate it when a subject doesn't easily present itself ... but ...
> >>
> >> Is there something that I'm missing, such that if I add a 
> keyboard to 
> >> a server
> >> *after* rebooting it with no keyboard, that will have that 
> keyboard 
> >> recognized?
> >>
> >> Basically, I have several remote servers, with no 
> keyboards, but if I 
> >> need a tech to check something on the console (ie. the 
> ethernet went 
> >> down for some reason), when they plug a keyboard back in 
> again, there 
> >> is no signal until they actually power cycle the machine 
> ... which of 
> >> course, is too late to do any diagnosis :(
> >>
> >> Thx ...
> >
> >
> > This is a limitation of the hardware in the keyboards and 
> the motherboards.
> > The only solution I have found is to use a KVM switch which 
> keeps the 
> > keyboard and mouse ports active during bootups.
> >
> >  -Derek
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We've used StarTech KVM Over IP switches with both windows and BSD with no 
major issues. They're pretty much the most reasonably priced ones out there.

Tamouh


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Re: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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- --On Tuesday, April 10, 2007 15:09:24 -0500 Derek Ragona 
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> At 02:11 PM 4/10/2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
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>> Does anyone know of a reasonably priced one?  Our newer servers, we've been
>> using HP servers, so that we have this built in, but I have 6 older servers
>> that I'd love to be able to deal with remotely without headaches ... I only
>> need to be able to access one at a time ...
>>
>> I've tried the 'serial console' route, but if the server crashes, logging
>> in to
>> the serial console doesn't show you anything, whereas, with the HP 'remote
>> console' feature, its the same as a KVM, where running it does a screen
>> refresh, so that I can see what is on the screen at the time of the crash ...
>
> The simplest thing you can do is to make sure you are logging the console
> messages.  I set all remote servers to log the actual console output to a
> separate log file in /etc/syslog.conf adding the line:
> console.info/var/log/console.log
>
> and adding a line to /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate the logs:
> /var/log/console.log600  5 100  * J

I'm looking at 'post-crash' kind of error messages ... after the point that the 
hard drives are no longer being written to ... as well as the ability to login 
remotely during a reboot when it gets to teh point that it says 'hit RETURN for 
/bin/sh' because it had a problem with fsck'ng a drive, that sort of thing ...

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RE: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-10 Thread Don O'Neil
Try the Aten CN6000... They can be purchased for less than $500... They work
GREAT, and can be attached to a KVM switch to cascade for multiple servers.

http://www.aten-usa.com/?product&cat=583&Item=CN6000 

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At 02:11 PM 4/10/2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
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>Does anyone know of a reasonably priced one?  Our newer servers, we've 
>been using HP servers, so that we have this built in, but I have 6 
>older servers that I'd love to be able to deal with remotely without 
>headaches ... I only need to be able to access one at a time ...
>
>I've tried the 'serial console' route, but if the server crashes, 
>logging in to the serial console doesn't show you anything, whereas, 
>with the HP 'remote console' feature, its the same as a KVM, where 
>running it does a screen refresh, so that I can see what is on the 
>screen at the time of the crash ...

The simplest thing you can do is to make sure you are logging the console
messages.  I set all remote servers to log the actual console output to a
separate log file in /etc/syslog.conf adding the line:
console.info/var/log/console.log

and adding a line to /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate the logs:
/var/log/console.log600  5 100  * J

 -Derek

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Re: KVM over IP (Was: Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard) ...

2007-04-10 Thread Derek Ragona

At 02:11 PM 4/10/2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

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Does anyone know of a reasonably priced one?  Our newer servers, we've been
using HP servers, so that we have this built in, but I have 6 older servers
that I'd love to be able to deal with remotely without headaches ... I only
need to be able to access one at a time ...

I've tried the 'serial console' route, but if the server crashes, logging 
in to

the serial console doesn't show you anything, whereas, with the HP 'remote
console' feature, its the same as a KVM, where running it does a screen
refresh, so that I can see what is on the screen at the time of the crash ...


The simplest thing you can do is to make sure you are logging the console 
messages.  I set all remote servers to log the actual console output to a 
separate log file in /etc/syslog.conf adding the line:

console.info/var/log/console.log

and adding a line to /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate the logs:
/var/log/console.log600  5 100  * J

-Derek

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