Re: Diskless question
From: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se To: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se Cc: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Diskless question On 2013-09-14 15:41, Bernt Hansson wrote: On 2013-09-14 11:05, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:36:58 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have a setup with a diskless machine and working, but I can not log in as root on the diskless. How to proceed? Log in as non root see what /var/log shows Mount the media elsewhere then either give a good look at what might be wrong, relax some restrictive permissions create some temporary back doors. rlogin, ssh, no or simple password on toor etc Cheers, Julian I solved it. Root did not have a password as strange as it may be. Unsolved. Root do not have a password, pressing enter at the passwd prompt gives sorry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org It's been a long time since I did this but there was some command for passwd for root which I had to do as well. The initial diskless boot will login you in with root without a password as I recall. Aha, here it is... cd /etc cp passwd master.passwd /pxeroot/conf/default/etc/ cd /pxeroot/etc pwd_mkdb -d /pxeroot/etc master.passwd You may need to adjust this based on your setup. I found lots of good info on diskless booting at this site: http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/FreeBSD-diskless.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
Hi, Reference: From: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:36:58 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have a setup with a diskless machine and working, but I can not log in as root on the diskless. How to proceed? Log in as non root see what /var/log shows Mount the media elsewhere then either give a good look at what might be wrong, relax some restrictive permissions create some temporary back doors. rlogin, ssh, no or simple password on toor etc Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-25 16:03, krad skrev: type id from your user account and paste the results back here uid=1001(bernt) gid=65534(nobody) groups=65534(nobody),0(wheel) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
type id from your user account and paste the results back here On 24 April 2013 14:55, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2013-04-24 15:40, Lowell Gilbert skrev: Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org writes: On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' Oops. Right. Ok this is master.password for root root:a lot of tokens.:0:0::0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
From: Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org To: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se Cc: questions FreeBSD FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Diskless question On 04/24/13 13:45, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2013-04-24 13:21, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console as insecure or have an impossible password in /etc/master.passwd. I am a member of the wheel group. Curious, I would have expected the su to work. Time for a quick look at the source. In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' config files via the server. I have tried and my own password is easily changed via the server. if i try, on the diskless, Login: root Password: password or none Login incorrect As I mentioned in another post, have you got a valid looking password field in /etc/master.passwd or just a '*'? Valid fields tend to look something like $2a$04$XXX or $6$XXX where XXX is a lot of base64 encoded data. Looking in the source for su there are three places that generate Sorry. They all send messages to syslog. Is there a BAD SU entry in your /var/log/auth.log or a PAM related error in /var/log/messages and/or on the console? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org When you're editing the /etc/passwd file make sure it's the one in the partition that you set for your root for the diskless machine. It could be the same one as the server but typically another partition is setup as the root for the diskless machine(s). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:18 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. Do you want to start a X session as root? ~/.xinitrc? Or are you missing a root account and you even can't log in without X? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:18:59 +0200 Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. Are you logging in on the console or by ssh ? By default ssh does not allow root login, it can be enabled but you should read up on the security implications carefully before enabling it. I would expect console login to work fine. As a general rule it is better to use sudo or su rather than logging in as root, although for a single user system this doesn't really make much difference. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 10:36, Ralf Mardorf skrev: On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:18 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. Do you want to start a X session as root? No. ~/.xinitrc? Or are you missing a root account and you even can't log in without X? No X, only cli. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 12:12, Steve O'Hara-Smith skrev: On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:18:59 +0200 Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. Are you logging in on the console or by ssh ? By default ssh does not allow root login, it can be enabled but you should read up on the security implications carefully before enabling it. I would expect console login to work fine. I'm trying to login as root on the diskless machine. Console. As a general rule it is better to use sudo or su rather than logging in as root, although for a single user system this doesn't really make much difference. su does not work it sayes sorry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: su does not work it sayes sorry. polkit:*:562:root,$USER ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: su does not work it sayes sorry. Is the user in a group that does fulfil special permissions? Regarding to Google results, the group for FreeBSD is wheel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console as insecure or have an impossible password in /etc/master.passwd. In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' config files via the server. -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:55:08 +0200 Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry Some shoots in the dark, shield your feet. a)$su - b)exist /root ? c)can you boot in single user mode ? d)exist /bin/csh ? root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh --- --- Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 13:21, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console as insecure or have an impossible password in /etc/master.passwd. I am a member of the wheel group. In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' config files via the server. I have tried and my own password is easily changed via the server. if i try, on the diskless, Login: root Password: password or none Login incorrect ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 13:04, Ralf Mardorf skrev: On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: su does not work it sayes sorry. Is the user in a group that does fulfil special permissions? Regarding to Google results, the group for FreeBSD is wheel. Yes the user is in the wheel group. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se writes: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh ^ / \ Root has no valid password. You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:07-0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se writes: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh ^ / \ Root has no valid password. You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. Why look at the /etc/passwd file when the key files are: * /etc/master.passwd * /etc/spwd.db * /etc/passwd * /etc/pwd.db -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se writes: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh ^ / \ Root has no valid password. You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org writes: On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' Oops. Right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 15:07, Lowell Gilbert skrev: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se writes: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh ^ / \ Root has no valid password. Well. The user can login, root can not. You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
On 04/24/13 13:45, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2013-04-24 13:21, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console as insecure or have an impossible password in /etc/master.passwd. I am a member of the wheel group. Curious, I would have expected the su to work. Time for a quick look at the source. In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' config files via the server. I have tried and my own password is easily changed via the server. if i try, on the diskless, Login: root Password: password or none Login incorrect As I mentioned in another post, have you got a valid looking password field in /etc/master.passwd or just a '*'? Valid fields tend to look something like $2a$04$XXX or $6$XXX where XXX is a lot of base64 encoded data. Looking in the source for su there are three places that generate Sorry. They all send messages to syslog. Is there a BAD SU entry in your /var/log/auth.log or a PAM related error in /var/log/messages and/or on the console? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
2013-04-24 15:40, Lowell Gilbert skrev: Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org writes: On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' Oops. Right. Ok this is master.password for root root:a lot of tokens.:0:0::0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
