Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:44:14PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2008 9:17:36 pm Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:04:13PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2008 5:39:02 pm Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. There are indeed messages: umass0: M-SysT5 Dell Memory Key, class ... on uhub4 da0: at umass-sim0 ... .. da0: 60 Mb (OK, it is a 64 Mb key) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is msdosfs/USB MEMORY It's better to use this device, since it won't change when you plug in an extra USB stick/drive. also when unplugging, some messages $ ls -la /dev/da0s1 shows only the character device line OK then .. let's get it to work. 1) Open /etc/devfs.rules and add the following lines: [system=10] add path 'da*' mode 0666 add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0666 I prefer 'mode 0660 group usb' in principle, but that is personal. Sure thing. But it adds an extra layer of complexity (I mean, he would have to be a member of the usb group or even create it if it doesn't exist) and I just wanted to be raw simple and to the core. Now thanks to you reply, Pieter has more info on how to get around this :) (Edit that line to suit your needs) 2) Open /etc/rc.conf and add the following line devfs_system_ruleset=system (Edit that line to suit your needs) 3) Create a mountpoint for your pendrive mkdir -p ~/mnt/pen (Edit that line to suit your needs) 4) Open /etc/fstab and add a line like this one /dev/da0s1 /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 /dev/msdosfs/USB\ MEMORY /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 (Edit that line to suit your needs) Reboot Done ... I prefer to have a script do the mounting, so I can add some sane flags to mount_msdosfs that you cannot put in options/fstab AFAICT, like '-m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync -o noexec -o nosuid'. Roland There you go Pieter ... a simple example (mine) and a more in-depth one (Roland's) on how to get your pendrive to work :) Thanks for improving on my simple example Roland =D In a separate reply from Giorgos Keramidas I learned that you can put _all_ types of options in fstab, not just the -o options! So the improved example would be (where USER is your username): /dev/msdosfs/USB\ MEMORY /home/USER/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto,noatime,sync,noexec,nosuid,-m=644,-M=755,-l,-u=USER,-g=USER 0 0 A more elegant solution would be to write a script that is called from devd whenever a /dev/msdosfs device appears. It should then create a directory named after the label in /home/USER/mnt, and mount the fs there with appropriate permissions. The hard thing is to do this correctly on a machine with multiple (concurrent) local users. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpXESBikMysu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. There are indeed messages: umass0: M-SysT5 Dell Memory Key, class ... on uhub4 da0: at umass-sim0 ... .. da0: 60 Mb (OK, it is a 64 Mb key) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is msdosfs/USB MEMORY also when unplugging, some messages $ ls -la /dev/da0s1 shows only the character device line -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tuesday 11 November 2008 20:25:51 Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? This requires HAL-support with KDE and the KDE MEdia Manager enabled in the system services. It's fragile to get working and often requires extensive knowledge of HAL, dbus and policykit. This is where PC-BSD can be seen as SuSE for linux, as it has configured all these things to work out of the box, that normally a FreeBSD system administrator would set up. Alternatively, one can use the desktopbsd-tools from the ports to add some GUI system tray apps, among which a removable media manager. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yes that is normal, think Pieter is talking about Hal being enabled for konqueror ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
I installed (pkg_ad -r) desktopbsd-tools following instructions from http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:desktopbsd_tools_in_freebsd I did: # chgrp wheel /dev/da0 # chmod g+w /dev/da0s1 (I believe USB key is /dev/da0) # chgrp wheel /dev/ad0 # chmod g+w /dev/ad0s1 (anyway, did that too) # sysctl vfs.usermount=1 # chmod 1775 /media # ls -la / | grep media drwxrwxr-t root wheel /media # sysctl vfs.usermount=1 started $ /usr/local/bin/dbsd-traymounter inserted an USB memory key In Konqueror still nothing to see in /media what's wrong?? On Tuesday 11 November 2008 20:25:51 Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? This requires HAL-support with KDE and the KDE MEdia Manager enabled in the system services. It's fragile to get working and often requires extensive knowledge of HAL, dbus and policykit. This is where PC-BSD can be seen as SuSE for linux, as it has configured all these things to work out of the box, that normally a FreeBSD system administrator would set up. Alternatively, one can use the desktopbsd-tools from the ports to add some GUI system tray apps, among which a removable media manager. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed (pkg_ad -r) desktopbsd-tools following instructions from http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:desktopbsd_tools_in_freebsd I did: # chgrp wheel /dev/da0 # chmod g+w /dev/da0s1 (I believe USB key is /dev/da0) # chgrp wheel /dev/ad0 # chmod g+w /dev/ad0s1 (anyway, did that too) # sysctl vfs.usermount=1 # chmod 1775 /media # ls -la / | grep media drwxrwxr-t root wheel /media # sysctl vfs.usermount=1 started $ /usr/local/bin/dbsd-traymounter inserted an USB memory key In Konqueror still nothing to see in /media what's wrong?? Have you edited '/etc/devfs.conf' and '/etc/devfs.rules' ? -- Glen Barber If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. --Scott Adams ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tuesday 11 November 2008 5:39:02 pm Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. There are indeed messages: umass0: M-SysT5 Dell Memory Key, class ... on uhub4 da0: at umass-sim0 ... .. da0: 60 Mb (OK, it is a 64 Mb key) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is msdosfs/USB MEMORY also when unplugging, some messages $ ls -la /dev/da0s1 shows only the character device line OK then .. let's get it to work. 1) Open /etc/devfs.rules and add the following lines: [system=10] add path 'da*' mode 0666 (Edit that line to suit your needs) 2) Open /etc/rc.conf and add the following line devfs_system_ruleset=system (Edit that line to suit your needs) 3) Create a mountpoint for your pendrive mkdir -p ~/mnt/pen (Edit that line to suit your needs) 4) Open /etc/fstab and add a line like this one /dev/da0s1 /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 (Edit that line to suit your needs) Reboot Done ... Now you can create a Link to device on your KDE desktop and make it point to your /dev/da0s1. Insert your pendrive and click on your newly created pendrive device link. Remember to umount it before unplug it Otherwise .. get ready to wrestle hal/dbus and policykit ... Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:04:13PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2008 5:39:02 pm Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. There are indeed messages: umass0: M-SysT5 Dell Memory Key, class ... on uhub4 da0: at umass-sim0 ... .. da0: 60 Mb (OK, it is a 64 Mb key) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is msdosfs/USB MEMORY It's better to use this device, since it won't change when you plug in an extra USB stick/drive. also when unplugging, some messages $ ls -la /dev/da0s1 shows only the character device line OK then .. let's get it to work. 1) Open /etc/devfs.rules and add the following lines: [system=10] add path 'da*' mode 0666 add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0666 I prefer 'mode 0660 group usb' in principle, but that is personal. (Edit that line to suit your needs) 2) Open /etc/rc.conf and add the following line devfs_system_ruleset=system (Edit that line to suit your needs) 3) Create a mountpoint for your pendrive mkdir -p ~/mnt/pen (Edit that line to suit your needs) 4) Open /etc/fstab and add a line like this one /dev/da0s1 /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 /dev/msdosfs/USB\ MEMORY /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 (Edit that line to suit your needs) Reboot Done ... I prefer to have a script do the mounting, so I can add some sane flags to mount_msdosfs that you cannot put in options/fstab AFAICT, like '-m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync -o noexec -o nosuid'. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpRFRZdCvxbV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and USBmemorystick
On Tuesday 11 November 2008 9:17:36 pm Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:04:13PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2008 5:39:02 pm Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:25:51PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If I insert a USB memory stick in my laptop with FreeBSD 7.0 nothing happens. On the same laptop in the SuSE 10.1 partition, the same USB stick appears in Konqueror under Storage Media and is ready to use) In FreeBSD, Konqueror shows nothing under Storage Media. Is this normal? What shows up in your kernel message log (outside of X, usually on the first virtual console) when you insert the stick? It should show a umass device being added, then a daX device being added. There are indeed messages: umass0: M-SysT5 Dell Memory Key, class ... on uhub4 da0: at umass-sim0 ... .. da0: 60 Mb (OK, it is a 64 Mb key) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is msdosfs/USB MEMORY It's better to use this device, since it won't change when you plug in an extra USB stick/drive. also when unplugging, some messages $ ls -la /dev/da0s1 shows only the character device line OK then .. let's get it to work. 1) Open /etc/devfs.rules and add the following lines: [system=10] add path 'da*' mode 0666 add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0666 I prefer 'mode 0660 group usb' in principle, but that is personal. Sure thing. But it adds an extra layer of complexity (I mean, he would have to be a member of the usb group or even create it if it doesn't exist) and I just wanted to be raw simple and to the core. Now thanks to you reply, Pieter has more info on how to get around this :) (Edit that line to suit your needs) 2) Open /etc/rc.conf and add the following line devfs_system_ruleset=system (Edit that line to suit your needs) 3) Create a mountpoint for your pendrive mkdir -p ~/mnt/pen (Edit that line to suit your needs) 4) Open /etc/fstab and add a line like this one /dev/da0s1 /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 /dev/msdosfs/USB\ MEMORY /home/your_user_name/mnt/pen msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 (Edit that line to suit your needs) Reboot Done ... I prefer to have a script do the mounting, so I can add some sane flags to mount_msdosfs that you cannot put in options/fstab AFAICT, like '-m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync -o noexec -o nosuid'. Roland There you go Pieter ... a simple example (mine) and a more in-depth one (Roland's) on how to get your pendrive to work :) Thanks for improving on my simple example Roland =D Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
