Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-15 Thread Nikola Lečić
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800
Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But it's still strange that there's no GUI utility in KDE or just X
 that would do it.

There are at least two very convenient GUI ways do to this:

(1) (g)ViM: assuming that you use UTF-8 to interptet Unicode and that
your locale is properly set (xx_XX-UTF-8), you can paste the
character (i.e.) „來“, point the cursor over it, and then:

* key sequence 'ga' will return '來 20358, Hex 4f86, Octal 47606';
* key sequence 'g8' will return 'e4 be 86' (actual bytes used to
  produce that letter;
* key sequence '[Ctrl+v]u4f86' will print „來“ (in Insert mode).

(2) deskutils/gucharmap: GTK2 application, doesn't pull many Gnome
dependencies, has highly professionally made database.
'View - Find - 來 - Character details' will provide you with the
following:

U+4F86 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4F86
General Character Properties
Unicode category: Letter, Other

Various Useful Representations
UTF-8: 0xE4 0xBE 0x86
UTF-16: 0x4F86

C octal escaped UTF-8: \344\276\206
XML decimal entity: #20358;

CJK Ideograph Information
Definition in English: come, coming; return, returning
Mandarin Pronunciation: LAI2 LAI4
Cantonese Pronunciation: lai4 loi4 loi6
Japanese On Pronunciation: RAI
Japanese Kun Pronunciation: KURU
Tang Pronunciation: *ləi ləi
Korean Pronunciation: LAY

Greetings.
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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-15 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:27:21PM +0100, Nikola Lečić wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800
 Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  But it's still strange that there's no GUI utility in KDE or just X
  that would do it.
 
 There are at least two very convenient GUI ways do to this:
 
 (1) (g)ViM: assuming that you use UTF-8 to interptet Unicode and that
 (2) deskutils/gucharmap: GTK2 application, doesn't pull many Gnome

(3) x11/rxvt-unicode - you just press and hold Ctrl+Shift+LClick
and move cursor around. Urxvt will show info on any char you
point at.
(4) In a UTF-8 console:
iconv -l|grep UTF
echo one or more|iconv -t UTF-32|hexdump
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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 01:17:03 am Yuri wrote:
 What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese character?
 I use KDE.

 All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-)

Have you tried kcharselect ?

David
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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread Yuri
  All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-)
 
 Have you tried kcharselect ?

Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and press
Enter nothing happens.
I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like 9991;)

But it goes the opposite way: from UNICODE number to the character.
The problem though that there are ~20K Chinese characters in UNICODE table.

Yuri

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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:19:35 am Yuri wrote:
   All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-)
 
  Have you tried kcharselect ?

 Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and press
 Enter nothing happens.
 I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like 9991;)

 But it goes the opposite way: from UNICODE number to the character.
 The problem though that there are ~20K Chinese characters in UNICODE table.

You can look up the character on the table and get the code point. 來 =  
U+4f86, but with 20k characters that would be a hassle. Sorry I couldn't be 
more helpful.

David
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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread OutbackDingo
would utf2ascii be any help here or recode ?? both are in ports
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 03:11 -0600, David J Brooks wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:19:35 am Yuri wrote:
All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-)
  
   Have you tried kcharselect ?
 
  Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and press
  Enter nothing happens.
  I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like 9991;)
 
  But it goes the opposite way: from UNICODE number to the character.
  The problem though that there are ~20K Chinese characters in UNICODE table.
 
 You can look up the character on the table and get the code point. 來 =  
 U+4f86, but with 20k characters that would be a hassle. Sorry I couldn't be 
 more helpful.
 
 David

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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread Jan Henrik Sylvester

On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:19:35 am Yuri wrote:
   All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-)
 
  Have you tried kcharselect ?

 Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and 
press

 Enter nothing happens.
 I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like 9991;)

Have a look at the uft8 editor Yudit (in ports). The interface is kind 
of weird for a Unix program, but it shows 'Glyph Info' for each 
character (at least for 2-byte characters) and you can paste them.


Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread Richard Tobin
 What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese character?
 I use KDE.
 
 All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-)

Try http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/utf-8.html

Paste it into the box and select Interpret as Character.

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Re: How to see UNICODE character number?

2007-11-14 Thread Yuri
Thank you Richard,

This URL does the trick.

But it's still strange that there's no GUI utility in KDE or just X that would
do it.

Yuri

Quoting Richard Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese
 character?
 
 Try http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/utf-8.html
 
 Paste it into the box and select Interpret as Character.
 
 -- Richard
 


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