Re: Mailing list recommend
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 09:59:06PM -, Graham Bentley wrote: Default Mail SignatureHi All - can anyone recommend an easy / simple mailing list software? All I need is to subscribe/ un-subscribe and a little maintainance of users. MySQL if its worth it, or a just php? Any pointers appreciated! try mailman. You may hink it to be overkil for your purpose, but it is good and fairly easy to set up and use. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list recommend
On 02/06/12 07:59, Graham Bentley wrote: Default Mail SignatureHi All - can anyone recommend an easy / simple mailing list software? All I need is to subscribe/ un-subscribe and a little maintainance of users. MySQL if its worth it, or a just php? Any pointers appreciated! This one is run by mailman if that helps. I'm pretty sure the volunteers here don't want to be micromanaging all the lists, so it seems to fit your bill. Don't know about MySQL or php though. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list and personal assaults
From: Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.com To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: mailing list and personal assaults I as a normal sys admin like to read the mailing lists, because it learned me a lot, and it still does. But lately it looks like more and more people get personal! The word ass, has passed this year even more then i used my own. Maybe it is the time we live in, but please ! If you are not agree with someone's statement or thoughts, ignore it or write your thoughts and be done with it. regards Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I agree. A mailing list like this should not fall to the lowest common denominator. And I would like to add that while this community seems to be an exception, far too often someone wastes bandwidth and bytes by telling the person with a question to RTFM. I just finished a rather complicated project which took me days to resolve and several times when I asked questions there was always some wise crack at hand who would make the commen that if you just RTFM everything would be fine. In this case the manuals were lacking and most of the data was obselete or irrelavent to the project I was conductingkind of like FreeBSD documentation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list and personal assaults
On 01/03/12 08:19, Bill Tillman wrote: I agree. A mailing list like this should not fall to the lowest common denominator. And I would like to add that while this community seems to be an exception, far too often someone wastes bandwidth and bytes by telling the person with a question to RTFM. I just finished a rather complicated project which took me days to resolve and several times when I asked questions there was always some wise crack at hand who would make the commen that if you just RTFM everything would be fine. In this case the manuals were lacking and most of the data was obselete or irrelavent to the project I was conductingkind of like FreeBSD documentation. That is unfortunately the case more often then not. There are use cases out there, but a lot of times the description of actually config variables is obscure. I'm hoping to try and fix that, but its on a todo list. I'll post something when I have it up and running. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
--As of April 8, 2011 3:50:52 PM -0600, Chad Perrin is alleged to have said: You seem to fail to realize that it's possible to CC someone who isn't on the list, but not CC someone who *is* on the list. That would be why people who aren't members of the list say thinks like please CC me, while people who are members occasionally say please don't send duplicates to me. --As for the rest, it is mine. Of course that's hard to keep track of, and a manual process on the part of the persons sending the messages. ;) (And if it's not mentioned in the specific email you are replying to, you either have to rely on memory or guess.) I've seen a variety of other solutions to this. Some mailing lists programs will even check to see if the message has been sent to you directly, and if so avoid sending another copy to you. Usually that's an option, and I tend to turn it off: It just means my filters don't work on the message I get. If you have an email client that supports it, there is one good way to reliably indicate your preference: The 'Reply-To:' header. I set mine to the mailing list when sending to the list. Nearly all mail clients will then automatically send replies to that address. Of course, that only works if I have a mail client that lets me set that header independently. My at-home client does, but I also access my email over webmail. The webmail program technically can do it, but it's interface is *very* poor. (Squirrelmail: It allows it via profiles, but all profiles are named by the sender address, unchangeable. For this use-case, the sending address is the same for all profiles.) And while *most* email clients support replies to the Reply-To address, not all do. Nor does it help if people are habitually hitting reply-all. Still, I find setting the Reply-To address works better than most of the other options. It doesn't work 100% of the time, but then neither does anything else. (Including address rewriting by the mailing list.) So, if getting two copies is annoying you, try it. You'll at least have made your preference known, without imposing it on others as their preference. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:38:26 +0100 Bruce Cran wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:15:11 +0200 Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote: You seem to miss one crucial fact: Not all the people who write to this list are subscribed to it. They will not see any replies directed only to the list. It is for their benefit that that rule exists. I don't know about anyone else, but personally I like getting replies CC'd to me because they end up in my INBOX - otherwise I often don't notice someone's replied since there are so many new messages to the mailing list each day. +1 Since I'm subscribed to almost a hundred maillist I should admit that this rule is *very* helpfull to speed up conversation. -- WBR, bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. end quote I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the list a good reason to do otherwise. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpaRGrvGSRLO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. end quote I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. While you make a valid point, how would one complain about not receiving an email? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 08 April 2011: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. end quote I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the list a good reason to do otherwise. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] +1 (I replied, cluttering up inboxes all over freebsdland) -- .o. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..o | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com ooo | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgp0LfZmUcK7u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:30:25PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. While you make a valid point, how would one complain about not receiving an email? Did you overlook the words in addition to the mail from the list? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpcoeKOP9rLr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 12:34:24PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: +1 (I replied, cluttering up inboxes all over freebsdland) You didn't CC me directly, though, for which I'm grateful. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpnTlZSkroSX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:11:52 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. end quote I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the list a good reason to do otherwise. Chad, it is common sense thinking like that, that will inevitable get you chastised. By the way, did you notice I directed a polite, one sentence directive towards Odhiambo. Suddenly, every buttinsky crawls out of the woodwork, sans any factual input on my original post and hijacks this thread championing their own views on replying to posts. I have no problem with that as long as they start a new thread, being sure to CC each other and thereby waste their time discussing it among themselves. To hijack another thread displays no only their lack of basic posting etiquette, but their narcissism. It is a shame when individuals like, but not limited to, Maciej Milewski, Chuck Swiger, Bryan H. and even Odhiambo contribute useful information only to be over shadowed by those other morons. Absolutely pathetic. I was going to CC all those who argued so feverishly in favor of the protocol, but then common sense and plain decency got the better of me. -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On 8 April 2011 20:28, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:30:25PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. While you make a valid point, how would one complain about not receiving an email? Did you overlook the words in addition to the mail from the list? My bad... Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On 8 April 2011 16:10, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: By the way, did you notice I directed a polite, one sentence directive towards Odhiambo. Suddenly, every buttinsky crawls out of the woodwork, sans any factual input on my original post and hijacks this thread Maybe you would be better served by not using a _public_ mailing list if you don't want other people to reply to your _public_ postings. Just a hint. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. end quote I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the list a good reason to do otherwise. You seem to miss one crucial fact: Not all the people who write to this list are subscribed to it. They will not see any replies directed only to the list. It is for their benefit that that rule exists. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
section 8.6 starts:
start quote
Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and
to FreeBSD-questions.
end quote
I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not*
need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see
anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the
list.
I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the
list a good reason to do otherwise.
You seem to miss one crucial fact: Not all the people who write to
this list are subscribed to it. They will not see any replies directed
only to the list. It is for their benefit that that rule exists.
You seem to fail to realize that it's possible to CC someone who isn't on
the list, but not CC someone who *is* on the list. That would be why
people who aren't members of the list say thinks like please CC me,
while people who are members occasionally say please don't send
duplicates to me.
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:15:11 +0200 Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote: You seem to miss one crucial fact: Not all the people who write to this list are subscribed to it. They will not see any replies directed only to the list. It is for their benefit that that rule exists. I don't know about anyone else, but personally I like getting replies CC'd to me because they end up in my INBOX - otherwise I often don't notice someone's replied since there are so many new messages to the mailing list each day. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:50:52 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. end quote I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the list a good reason to do otherwise. You seem to miss one crucial fact: Not all the people who write to this list are subscribed to it. They will not see any replies directed only to the list. It is for their benefit that that rule exists. You seem to fail to realize that it's possible to CC someone who isn't on the list, but not CC someone who *is* on the list. That would be why people who aren't members of the list say thinks like please CC me, while people who are members occasionally say please don't send duplicates to me. The solution to this problem is so obvious that I am amazed that no one has proposed it. Simply require the poster to be subscribed to the list. Other high quality lists, such as but not limited to Postfix have that requirement in place. If a potential poster is either too stupid or too lazy to subscribe then that is their problem. For the record, I have subscribed to lists before simple to post one question. Upon receiving an answer, I terminated my subscription. I did not feel the least bit inconvenienced. -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
Can we just drop this matter? It's bad enough that iPhone mail makes this whole ordeal a pain in the butt to read, but in the grand scheme of things, it _just doesn't matter_. I'm subscribed to the list, I expect lots of email from the list that I probably won't read anyway, but at least it's helpful to someone, somehow. My 2 cents. -Alex___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)
Hi, On Saturday 09 April 2011 05:46:43 Carmel wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:50:52 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated: The solution to this problem is so obvious that I am amazed that no one this is a solution which creates just new problems. has proposed it. Simply require the poster to be subscribed to the list. Other high quality lists, such as but not limited to Postfix have that requirement in place. If a potential poster is either too stupid or too lazy to subscribe then that is their problem. For the record, I have subscribed to lists before simple to post one question. Upon receiving an answer, I terminated my subscription. I did not feel the least bit inconvenienced. You did not, but the rest of us would have. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list software recommendations
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500 Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com articulated: I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. I'm not against others; thoughts? DADA Mail, http://dadamailproject.com/ is an excellent program. It is not in the ports system although it is on my list of things to do eventually. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Zymurgy's Law of Volunteer Labor: People are always available for work in the past tense. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mailing list software recommendations
I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. I'm not against others; thoughts? To quote my: http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/gen/mail/mailman/files/ An agressive 5 minute killer python loop in /var/cron/tanbs/mailman has been killing my hosts for 5 years I dont know if they fixed it. What worried me was what else might be sloppy dangerous, I didnt have time/ enthusiasm to do a code read through. One day, if when after mailman has a code read through to confirm it has no more killer loops, I'd like to find time for a 2nd stab to convert all my lists on majord...@berklix.org to mailman. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Munich 18th Sept Free Software, Lectures Installs http://berklix.org/sdf/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list archive as mbox
Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07: In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: hi there, what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ where you can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since their creation. thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those gzipped files, extract them and merge them. i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could use the gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading extracting and merging all those files for me. alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list archive as mbox
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET), Alexander Best alexbes...@wwu.de
wrote:
Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07:
In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said:
hi there,
what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire
mailingslist
archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/
where you
can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since
their
creation.
thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those gzipped
files, extract them and merge them.
i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could use the
gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading extracting
and merging all those files for me.
It's relatively easy to hack one.
You can get a list of year names from the /archive/ directory itself
with curl(1) and a small amount of Python plumbing around curl:
from subprocess import Popen as popen, PIPE
import re
yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
devnull = file(/dev/null)
def years():
... curl = curl -o /dev/stdout
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/;
... ylist = []
... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
... m = yre.match(line)
... if m:
... ylist.append(int(m.group(1)))
... return ylist
...
years()
[1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
Then you can grab a list of the freebsd-current archives by looping
through the list of years and looking for the list of files that match
the pattern:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/{year}/freebsd-current/(\d+.freebsd-current.gz)
Using a pipe to parse the output of curl you can collect a list of all
the files that match this pattern, e.g.:
def yearfiles(year):
... base =
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current;
% year
... curl = curl -o /dev/stdout %s/ % base
... flist = []
... fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
... m = fre.match(line)
... if m:
... flist.append(%s/%s % (base, m.group(1)))
... return flist
...
yearfiles(1994)
[]
yearfiles(1995)
['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/1.freebsd-current.gz',
...]
Concatenating the file lists of all years and fetching each one of them
with curl is then trivial:
ylist = years()
ylist
[1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
flist = []
for y in ylist:
... f = yearfiles(y)
... flist = flist + f
...
len(flist)
785
Once you have the list of all the remote gzipped files, you can loop
through the list of files once more and fetch them locally. I'm only
going to fetch the first two files here, but feel free to fetch all of
them in your version of the script:
flist = flist[:2]
flist
['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz']
from subprocess import call
def getfile(url):
... out = os.path.basename(url)
... retcode = call([curl, -o, out, url], stderr=devnull)
... if retcode == 0:
... print fetched %s % url
... return tuple([url, out, retcode])
...
map(getfile, flist)
fetched
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz
fetched
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz
...
[('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
'19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 0),
('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz',
'19950226.freebsd-current.gz', 0)]
A slightly hackish script that collects all this to a more usable whole
but lacks LOTS of error checking is the following:
#!/usr/bin/env python
from subprocess import call, Popen as popen, PIPE
import os
import re
import sys
devnull = file(/dev/null)
yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
def years():
curl = curl -o /dev/stdout
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/;
ylist = []
for line in popen(curl, shell=True,
Re: mailing list archive as mbox
Giorgos Keramidas schrieb am 2010-03-07:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:08:32 +0100 (CET), Alexander Best
alexbes...@wwu.de wrote:
Dan Nelson schrieb am 2010-03-07:
In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said:
hi there,
what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire
mailingslist
archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format?
Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/
where you
can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists
since
their
creation.
thanks for the hint, but it would take hours to download all those
gzipped
files, extract them and merge them.
i really need ALL the messages of a mailinglist. of course i could
use the
gzipped files you mentioned if i had some script for downloading
extracting
and merging all those files for me.
It's relatively easy to hack one.
wow!!! thanks a billion. that's a great script. i pointed the vars containing
ftp sites at mirrors near me which give me better download speed and will run
the script for freebsd-current@ this night (~850 archives to pull).
thanks again. great job. :-)
alex
You can get a list of year names from the /archive/ directory itself
with curl(1) and a small amount of Python plumbing around curl:
from subprocess import Popen as popen, PIPE
import re
yre = re.compile('^d.*\s(\d+)$')
devnull = file(/dev/null)
def years():
... curl = curl -o /dev/stdout
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/;
... ylist = []
... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
... m = yre.match(line)
... if m:
... ylist.append(int(m.group(1)))
... return ylist
...
years()
[1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003,
2004, 2005,
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
Then you can grab a list of the freebsd-current archives by looping
through the list of years and looking for the list of files that
match
the pattern:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/{year}/freebsd-current/(\d+.freebsd-current.gz)
Using a pipe to parse the output of curl you can collect a list of
all
the files that match this pattern, e.g.:
def yearfiles(year):
... base =
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/%4d/freebsd-current;
% year
... curl = curl -o /dev/stdout %s/ % base
... flist = []
... fre = re.compile(r'^.*\D(\d+.freebsd-current.gz).*$')
... for line in popen(curl, shell=True, stdout=PIPE,
stderr=devnull).stdout.readlines():
... m = fre.match(line)
... if m:
... flist.append(%s/%s % (base, m.group(1)))
... return flist
...
yearfiles(1994)
[]
yearfiles(1995)
['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/1.freebsd-current.gz',
...]
Concatenating the file lists of all years and fetching each one of
them
with curl is then trivial:
ylist = years()
ylist
[1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003,
2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010]
flist = []
for y in ylist:
... f = yearfiles(y)
... flist = flist + f
...
len(flist)
785
Once you have the list of all the remote gzipped files, you can loop
through the list of files once more and fetch them locally. I'm only
going to fetch the first two files here, but feel free to fetch all
of
them in your version of the script:
flist = flist[:2]
flist
['ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz']
from subprocess import call
def getfile(url):
... out = os.path.basename(url)
... retcode = call([curl, -o, out, url], stderr=devnull)
... if retcode == 0:
... print fetched %s % url
... return tuple([url, out, retcode])
...
map(getfile, flist)
fetched
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz
fetched
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz
...
[('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950101.freebsd-current.gz',
'19950101.freebsd-current.gz', 0),
('ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/1995/freebsd-current/19950226.freebsd-current.gz',
'19950226.freebsd-current.gz', 0)]
A slightly hackish script that collects all this to a more usable
whole
but lacks LOTS of
Re: mailing list archive as mbox
In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: hi there, what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ where you can download weekly gzipped archives of all the mailing lists since their creation. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list
John Tele2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K you please stop sending me this spam from your account: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note below: To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each mail contains information on how to unsubscribe from the mailing lists. If you have attempted to unsubscribe and have been unsuccessful, an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _detailing_ your attempts and including an example email will likely produce results. Unfortunately, it's impossible to assist you with the small amount of information you've provided. In addition, this list will not be monitored by the people who can actually do anything about your predicament. Hope this helps. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailing list
Hi, Bill Moran wrote: John Tele2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K you please stop sending me this spam from your account: [EMAIL PROTECTED] this guy first writes to all the lists and the complains that he gets answers. I believe that it is some remote controlled Windows machine whith someone in control testing new Windows-clustering software. Erich Note below: To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each mail contains information on how to unsubscribe from the mailing lists. If you have attempted to unsubscribe and have been unsuccessful, an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _detailing_ your attempts and including an example email will likely produce results. Unfortunately, it's impossible to assist you with the small amount of information you've provided. In addition, this list will not be monitored by the people who can actually do anything about your predicament. Hope this helps. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailing list archives
John Von Essen wrote: A few years ago I remember being able to download (from freebsd ftp server) mail spool files for the entire years worth of messages for a given mailing list. I would periodically, download these, parse them with a perl script and generate a file-based directory structure of all the message to search on. Can you still download these? I was on ftp2.freebsd.org looking around and I didn't see them anywhere. FreeBSD is now using Mailman for many lists, which keeps an archive at: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions.mbox/freebsd-questions.mbox That mbox file is 244MB in size, so I think that is what you are looking for. Otherwise, consider mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly with your request -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailing list archives
In the last episode (Dec 09), Chuck Swiger said: John Von Essen wrote: A few years ago I remember being able to download (from freebsd ftp server) mail spool files for the entire years worth of messages for a given mailing list. I would periodically, download these, parse them with a perl script and generate a file-based directory structure of all the message to search on. Can you still download these? I was on ftp2.freebsd.org looking around and I didn't see them anywhere. FreeBSD is now using Mailman for many lists, which keeps an archive at: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions.mbox/freebsd-questions.mbox That mbox file is 244MB in size, so I think that is what you are looking for. Otherwise, consider mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly with your request You can fetch weekly files from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ , too. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Crist wrote: | Hello all, | | How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD | website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not looking | like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping | there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. You can build the mailman port with htdig support (which is was what FreeBSD.org uses). It's a snap to setup. Just define WITH_HTDIG when building mailman, then follow the included documentation (or read Defaults.py) for enabling htdig with pipermail/mailman. Joe | | TIA | | - | Eric F Crist | Secure Computing Networks - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBeyt9b2iPiv4Uz4cRAkBvAJ4nHwh7yeX8ofsigH4+LOUunpZjGACfVr0I Sa8UA5cAyWhW5hfzcxkH9gM= =gBNj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website
On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:11 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Crist wrote: | Hello all, | | How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD | website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not looking | like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping | there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. You can build the mailman port with htdig support (which is was what FreeBSD.org uses). It's a snap to setup. Just define WITH_HTDIG when building mailman, then follow the included documentation (or read Defaults.py) for enabling htdig with pipermail/mailman. Joe Is this something I can simply do a make deinstall make -DWITH_HTDIG reinstall without destroying my current mailing lists? I'm new to the whole mailman/mailing list stuff. thanks! - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Crist wrote: | On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:11 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Eric Crist wrote: | | Hello all, | | | | How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD | | website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not looking | | like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping | | there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. | | You can build the mailman port with htdig support (which is was what | FreeBSD.org uses). It's a snap to setup. Just define WITH_HTDIG when | building mailman, then follow the included documentation (or read | Defaults.py) for enabling htdig with pipermail/mailman. | | Joe | | | Is this something I can simply do a make deinstall make -DWITH_HTDIG | reinstall without destroying my current mailing lists? I'm new to the | whole mailman/mailing list stuff. Should be fine, but just to be safe, you should backup your current data if you're already using mailman. Joe | | thanks! | - | Eric F Crist | Secure Computing Networks - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBey/nb2iPiv4Uz4cRArP5AKCJGTCfTNzIdloo0HbOvqkV06jRWwCgg9Zv LZvEPfTIYSqoO9WnF0EFxGo= =fN6f -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing List problem
parahat melayev wrote: I don't know if it is a problem or not but I am unable to send e-mails to FreeBSD lists via my SMTP server on localhost. The FreeBSD lists have a rather restricted setup in order to prevent from spam. You need a fqdn, and working reverse lookup in order to have your mails accepted (this applies also for the PR database). If cannot fullfill these requirements, you can use an external mail relay that has prober dns settings. If you need further information, please be a bit more verbose: - Which mail server software do you use? - What is the error message? - ... Simon signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mailing list archive
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:32:34AM +, Wayne Pascoe wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a problem with the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists ? Yes, they aren't very good ;-) Try http://freebsd.rambler.ru/ or http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ instead. Ceri -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailing List Problem
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-06-26 08:52:48 -0700: Hello, I am using Sylpheed 0.9.2 as my mail client and when I try to send a e-mail to ANY of the FREEBSD mailing lists using Sylpheed it will never send. I can send e-mails to other mailing lists (non-freebsd ones) just fine but not any of the FBSD ones and the FreeBSD mailing lists is the main ones I care about. Hope someone could help me out here. Is this still your old problem, or is the problem limited to Sylpheed? -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing list was: no subject
On Sunday 30 March 2003 09:42 pm, skylex wrote: %list The freebsd lists aren't administrated with majordomo anymore, checkout this link: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing list
Thomas Widlundh wrote: Hi again, It seems like I don't get any mails from the list anymore. It happend I got deleted at my ISP:s, and my ftp and mail parts disappeared. Any mail to me should have been returned to the sender. Can it be this? Am I in any way automaticly deleted from the list because of this, so I have to make a new subscription? Oh, my adresses and so on are restaured to what it was. Regards, Thomas I'm not 100% sure, but I think the list will automatically unsubscribe you after a certain amount of time if you're unreachable. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: mailing list software
Um, may I point out a more convient MLM? tinylist. Web membership management, simple form- click a radio button for subscribe/unsubscribe, fill in your email address, click SEND. You get a letter. Reply to it. No passwords needed. It sends you a confirming letter telling you what it did. If there is a custom welcome/farewell message for the list, it sends you that instead. Simple. Grab the mouse, click, choose. simple. site: http://www.tinylist.org/ Master menu: http://www.tinylist.org/cgi-bin/TLmastermenu.py Available lists: http://www.tinylist.org/cgi-bin/TLwebmgr.py Anthony Abby wrote: But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password to unsubscribe? That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, mass-market crowd. sure does. Len Yes they do, and not to mention that, but most people will subscribe/unsubscribe from the graphical interface anyway, and I think most people who are familiar with mailing lists will attest, it's HORROR trying to admin a list hosted by Mailman. Until the developers make the unsubscribe feauture more pronounced in Mailman, you're always going to have lord knows how many screaming people on your list who don't know how to unsubscribe. It's terriblecheck out the Redhat mailing lists sometime! flinch... Anthony To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Now you know why I wrote tinylist- along with the headaches attendant to majordomo... end Respectfully, Kirk D Bailey +-Thou Art Free. -Eris---+ | http://www.howlermonkey.net mailto:highprimate;howlermonkey.net | | KILL spam dead! http://www.scambusters.org/stopspam/#Pledge | | http://www.tinylist.org ++ mailto:grumpy;tinylist.org | +--Thinking| NORMAL |Thinking--+ ++ - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: mailing list software
But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password to unsubscribe? That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, mass-market crowd. this is pretty easily changed in mailman. a patch for passwordless unsubscribes in mailman 2.0.13 follows below... - rob --- Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py.orig 2002-11-12 15:36:21.140003000 -0500 +++ Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py 2002-11-12 16:02:36.610014000 -0500 @@ -511,8 +511,8 @@ def ProcessUnsubscribeCmd(self, args, cmd, mail): if not len(args): - self.AddError(Usage: unsubscribe password [email-address]) - return + # allow unsubscribe with no password + pass if len(args) 2: self.AddError(Usage: unsubscribe password [email-address]\n To unsubscribe from a particular list, To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: mailing list software
I recommend Mailman: /usr/ports/mail/mailman It's from GNU (free!), works well, and is well supported. It installed simply and easily for me. But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password to unsubscribe? That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, mass-market crowd. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: mailing list software
I think Listar/Ecartis is much better than Mailman. Check it out at http://www.listar.org. It's also free and has a ton of options. Anthony I was going to look at mail/listmanager to see if it was good enough for I recommend Mailman: /usr/ports/mail/mailman It's from GNU (free!), works well, and is well supported. It installed simply and easily for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: mailing list software
comments below Subject: Re: mailing list software At 01:07 PM 10.22.2002 -0400, Anthony Abby wrote: But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password to unsubscribe? That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, mass-market crowd. Len Yes they do, and not to mention that, but most people will subscribe/unsubscribe from the graphical interface anyway, and I think most people who are familiar with mailing lists will attest, it's HORROR trying to admin a list hosted by Mailman. Until the developers make the unsubscribe feauture more pronounced in Mailman, you're always going to have lord knows how many screaming people on your list who don't know how to unsubscribe. It's terrible check out the Redhat mailing lists sometime! Anthony In fact, mailing lists are the best place to find out about programs. Just watch and read for a few weeks and you'll have a very good idea about what to expect. Also, look at their archives. I was considering mailman and tracked the mailing list, plus have been subscribed to lists using MM and decided it was not ready for prime time yet. I use majordomo which does the job well... (of course I will tout what I use!) it's easy to operate and has a solid performance record. Plus, it's free too if the is part of the criteria. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message I too use majordomo, originally I had it working with sendmail, then I upgraded to qmail. I maintain 2 lists with little effort. Besides, if it is good enough for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, it is good enough for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
