RE: Mini atx for firewall
also you can get PCI doublers... no idea how well they work, but! anyone had experience of them? You can always get the Intel dual/quad server NIC's. Even come in dual gig-e flavor! Brent ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:24, Francisco Reyes wrote: My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world. I just got a 4 port Adaptec NIC very very cheaply from ebay (about £20 GBP, which included international shipping). Works great with de(4). I had the same problem with lack of PCI slots, my server/router is mini-ATX based and so only has three PCI slots, so it's working great now with PCI IDE ,SCSI and 4 port net. - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAA0kCF8Iu1zN5WiwRAqxpAKCCXPNclEZcDKchcbm3NnKP06kTIACffyHi T+U46+LtulUZmVdF7fJ9PxQ= =PL1e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
Guys, Case Outlet*, and perhaps others by now, have the Travla Flex ATX / mini ITX case that will accomodate two PCI cards. I have an 933MHz EPIA board with two 3c905TX-C NICs, and have seen a substantial improvement in performance over my old Netgear router. Trust me, the onboard NIC's are crap. If you are building a firewall/router - get real NIC's. On the other hand, most cable modems are band limited by the cable company to about 1.5 to 2Mbps, so a USB ethernet device might not be a serious limitation - but I would definitely suggest a good NIC for the LAN side. I've had problems with the rl device on my ITX board locking up Regards, Seth Henry *I've done business with them before, and they seem to have fair prices, and decent configurations - but other than that, I don't have any relations with them. On Wednesday 19 November 2003 15:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:11:46PM +0100, Nico Meijer wrote: Hi Francisco, Anyone used a mini ATX machine with FreeBSD? It's mini ITX and yes, just did one yesterday. Small, quiet and beautiful. ;-) It was a ME6000 (fanless 600Mhz machine): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=794445+0+/usr/local/www/db/te xt/2003/freebsd-questions/20030928.freebsd-questions My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world. I tried a 3com 3c905 with this box and it wouldn't boot. Putting in a RTL8139 worked flawlessly. Since the box won't be doing any 'real' work, that's okay with me for now. HTH... Nico I'm using a USB Ethernet adapter for the 'outside' interface on my ME6000, since I needed the PCI slot for the wireless card. Seems to work just fine - it's only talking to a cable modem so the fact that the USB connection only runs at 11Mbps is not a problem. Just another option to consider. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, J. Seth Henry wrote: Guys, Case Outlet*, and perhaps others by now, have the Travla Flex ATX / mini ITX case that will accomodate two PCI cards. I have an 933MHz EPIA board with two 3c905TX-C NICs, and have seen a substantial improvement in performance over my old Netgear router. Which model did you get? Don't see any model as Flex. The models they have are C### (ie C137, etc). The only one I see listed with 2 PCI is the 137. Is that the one you got? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, paul van den bergen wrote: I have a bunch of these (8000s actually) for a testbed network. work like a treat... go fanless if you can... Where did you get them from? How much? I did have some hassles with the onboard via network connection not coping with long vlan tagged packets. It seems most of these mini ITX network cards have issues with FreeBSD. As long as I can get two PCI slots I should be fine. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
The C137 (in my case, black with a 90W PSU). It wil accomodate a flex ATX board, as well as the smaller Mini ITX board. If you order the dual riser card, they will throw in an extra extender with it (since they assume you will be running an ITX board in it) Case Outlet doesn't appear to carry them, but you can get an AGP riser from the company that builds them, should you want to use a flex ATX board. My next pvr system will likely be built in one of these. One important caveat - you can't stuff both a normal 3.5 HDD and a 2nd PCI card. Fortunately, the bracket can accomodate a laptop (2.5) hard disk as well as a normal 3.5 drive, so I went that route instead. Regards, Seth Henry On Thursday 20 November 2003 13:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, J. Seth Henry wrote: Guys, Case Outlet*, and perhaps others by now, have the Travla Flex ATX / mini ITX case that will accomodate two PCI cards. I have an 933MHz EPIA board with two 3c905TX-C NICs, and have seen a substantial improvement in performance over my old Netgear router. Which model did you get? Don't see any model as Flex. The models they have are C### (ie C137, etc). The only one I see listed with 2 PCI is the 137. Is that the one you got? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
Hi Francisco, Anyone used a mini ATX machine with FreeBSD? It's mini ITX and yes, just did one yesterday. Small, quiet and beautiful. ;-) It was a ME6000 (fanless 600Mhz machine): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=794445+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2003/freebsd-questions/20030928.freebsd-questions My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world. I tried a 3com 3c905 with this box and it wouldn't boot. Putting in a RTL8139 worked flawlessly. Since the box won't be doing any 'real' work, that's okay with me for now. HTH... Nico ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:11:46PM +0100, Nico Meijer wrote: Hi Francisco, Anyone used a mini ATX machine with FreeBSD? It's mini ITX and yes, just did one yesterday. Small, quiet and beautiful. ;-) It was a ME6000 (fanless 600Mhz machine): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=794445+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2003/freebsd-questions/20030928.freebsd-questions My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world. I tried a 3com 3c905 with this box and it wouldn't boot. Putting in a RTL8139 worked flawlessly. Since the box won't be doing any 'real' work, that's okay with me for now. HTH... Nico I'm using a USB Ethernet adapter for the 'outside' interface on my ME6000, since I needed the PCI slot for the wireless card. Seems to work just fine - it's only talking to a cable modem so the fact that the USB connection only runs at 11Mbps is not a problem. Just another option to consider. Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Scott Mitchell wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:11:46PM +0100, Nico Meijer wrote: . It was a ME6000 (fanless 600Mhz machine): I'm using a USB Ethernet adapter for the 'outside' interface on my ME6000, since I needed the PCI slot for the wireless card. Where did you get your ME6000 from? Which USB ethernet adapter? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:39:01AM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Scott Mitchell wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:11:46PM +0100, Nico Meijer wrote: . It was a ME6000 (fanless 600Mhz machine): I'm using a USB Ethernet adapter for the 'outside' interface on my ME6000, since I needed the PCI slot for the wireless card. Where did you get your ME6000 from? Which USB ethernet adapter? I think I got most of it from http://www.linitx.com/ It's a Linksys USB100TX adapter. Some of these (including mine) don't work on a 100Mbps connection with our aue(4) driver - even forcing it to 10Mbps mode didn't help. Fortunately my cable modem is 10Mbps only. I've heard that some folks Linksys adapters don't have this problem. Belkin also make an adapter that runs with aue(4) - this gave me no problems whatsoever even in 100Mbps mode; unfortunately I had to give it back :-) Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mini atx for firewall
I have a bunch of these (8000s actually) for a testbed network. work like a treat... go fanless if you can... I did have some hassles with the onboard via network connection not coping with long vlan tagged packets... Not sure if this is still an issue, but the vlan man page lists compatible devices if this is an issue for you. also you can get PCI doublers... no idea how well they work, but! anyone had experience of them? On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:24 am, Francisco Reyes wrote: Anyone used a mini ATX machine with FreeBSD? Have a client that has a space limitation and a mini atx machine like http://shentech.com/shutspacskvi.html Would be perfect for him. My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM:bulwynkl2002 And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. They say it is to see how the world was made. Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
