Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-23 Thread Christopher Illies
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 09:29:00AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Thursday 22 September 2005 01:58, you wrote:
 
  Have you checked the docs for the nvidia drivers?  All geforce series
  should have full, or near full, hardware acceleration since nvidia
  releases there own closed source drivers.
[...] 
 And that's the problem.  RenderAccel hasn't worked on the MX 400s I own (one 
 in a FreeBSD machine, one in a Linux box) in quite a few months.  I can't 
 downgrade at all on the Linux box because the most recent version of the 
 Nvidia driver that supports RenderAccel without crashing won't run on 
 recent kernels.  That's the main reason I'm shopping for replacements - my 
 hardware isn't as usable as it was six months ago.

I use an MX400 on FreeBSD with RenderAccel enabled. I had to disable
AGP completely (neither NvAGP nor FreeBSD AGP worked), because I was
seeing crashes (screen and keyboard are frozen, but mouse pointer
moves - a common bug with FreeBSD/Linux according to the nvidia
forum).
Since I disabled AGP, I had no more crashes with my card, even with
RenderAccel enabled.

HTH

Christopher

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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-23 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Friday 23 September 2005 01:04, Christopher Illies wrote:

 Since I disabled AGP, I had no more crashes with my card, even with
 RenderAccel enabled.

No kidding?  Is that configuration actually faster on your system?  I may 
have to give that a shot.
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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-23 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 22 September 2005 21:16, jason wrote:

 Is your card a GeForce2 MX Integrated graphics product?  If so it is not
 supported by the 75 series driver, you would need the 70 series.  That
 sounds like what you are experiencing.

Nope.  It's a GeForce2 MX 400 on an AGP card, and is listed in the 
README.txt for version 1.0-7676.  It works, sort of: GLX is present and 
OpenGL apps run with the expected quickness.  It's the broken 2D 
acceleration that's really putting a crimp in my usage.
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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-22 Thread jason

Kirk Strauser wrote:

I use an aging MX 400 in my desktop machine (FreeBSD 6.0something) and 
really, *really* want to upgrade to something that supports the RenderAccel 
option.  This machine has become glacially slow since some 
as-yet-undetermined upgrade broken that functionality, but I'd ideally like 
to be able to use X.org's Composite extension as well so simple downgrading 
probably won't help.


Any suggestions for a cheap, well-supported card?
 

Have you checked the docs for the nvidia drivers?  All geforce series 
should have full, or near full, hardware acceleration since nvidia 
releases there own closed source drivers.

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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-22 Thread RW
On Thursday 22 September 2005 07:58, jason wrote:
 Kirk Strauser wrote:
 I use an aging MX 400 in my desktop machine (FreeBSD 6.0something) and
 really, *really* want to upgrade to something that supports the
  RenderAccel option.  This machine has become glacially slow since some
 as-yet-undetermined upgrade broken that functionality, but I'd ideally
  like to be able to use X.org's Composite extension as well so simple
  downgrading probably won't help.
 
 Any suggestions for a cheap, well-supported card?

 Have you checked the docs for the nvidia drivers?  All geforce series
 should have full, or near full, hardware acceleration since nvidia
 releases there own closed source drivers.

Xorg doesn't even start on my GeForce FX 5700LE with the 
composite extension.


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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-22 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 22 September 2005 01:58, you wrote:

 Have you checked the docs for the nvidia drivers?  All geforce series
 should have full, or near full, hardware acceleration since nvidia
 releases there own closed source drivers.

It's better than nothing, mostly, but still not up to par.  There's a driver 
option called RenderAccel that makes it many times faster in certain 
operations, including ones that average users do a lot (like switching 
screens).  Certain eye candy features like the ones offered by the 
Composite extension are completely unbearable without it.

And that's the problem.  RenderAccel hasn't worked on the MX 400s I own (one 
in a FreeBSD machine, one in a Linux box) in quite a few months.  I can't 
downgrade at all on the Linux box because the most recent version of the 
Nvidia driver that supports RenderAccel without crashing won't run on 
recent kernels.  That's the main reason I'm shopping for replacements - my 
hardware isn't as usable as it was six months ago.
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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-20 Thread Garrett Cooper


On Sep 19, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote:


On Monday 19 September 2005 16:48, Garrett Cooper wrote:


5600/5800's aren't bad. In fact I might get one to replace my  
old Ti

4200 sometime in the near future. But if you want to get the 6200 or
somewhere around the 6000 series, they are quite a bit better I've  
heard

since they aren't overclocked 4000 series cards =).



Thanks.  Do you know of any FreeBSD-specific gotchas, and in  
particular
whether RenderAccel works (or is still needed for tolerable  
performance)?

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Not in particular. Any card in the upper-5000 series and any  
card in the 6000 will work with RenderAccel nicely, I believe. My  
card was just too ancient to really try out that feature, but it was  
a 4200 too.

-Garrett
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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-19 Thread Garrett Cooper

Kirk Strauser wrote:

I use an aging MX 400 in my desktop machine (FreeBSD 6.0something) and 
really, *really* want to upgrade to something that supports the RenderAccel 
option.  This machine has become glacially slow since some 
as-yet-undetermined upgrade broken that functionality, but I'd ideally like 
to be able to use X.org's Composite extension as well so simple downgrading 
probably won't help.


Any suggestions for a cheap, well-supported card?

   5600/5800's aren't bad. In fact I might get one to replace my old Ti 
4200 sometime in the near future. But if you want to get the 6200 or 
somewhere around the 6000 series, they are quite a bit better I've heard 
since they aren't overclocked 4000 series cards =).

-Garrett
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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Monday 19 September 2005 16:48, Garrett Cooper wrote:

 5600/5800's aren't bad. In fact I might get one to replace my old Ti
 4200 sometime in the near future. But if you want to get the 6200 or
 somewhere around the 6000 series, they are quite a bit better I've heard
 since they aren't overclocked 4000 series cards =).

Thanks.  Do you know of any FreeBSD-specific gotchas, and in particular 
whether RenderAccel works (or is still needed for tolerable performance)?
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The Day Companies
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