Re: What does one call name server registration?
At 04:52 AM 7/15/2009, Michael David Crawford wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem making myself clear to my domain name registrar's tech support. I have set up djbdns on a couple of my own servers, and want them registered AS name servers with whoever handles such registration. Most registrars allow one to just enter their hostnames and IPs and they take care of it automagically. But my once-beloved registrar HJ Linnen just outsourced all their registration services to NameScout, and they haven't got a clue. When I looked into it in my account page at NameScout, they said to email tech support, so I did. And tech support replied with the end-user instructions for assigning name servers to the domains one has registered with them. That's not what I want. What I have are two pairs in the following format: 1.2.3.4 a.ns.example.com 5.6.7.8 b.ns.example.com I would like a domain to be able to set its name servers to be a.ns.example.com and b.ns.example.com, and then when that domain is resolved the lookup is delegated to either 1.2.3.4 or 5.6.7.8. What is the process called, of registering such name servers? If I can tell NameScout support to do that for me, possibly they can get themselves a clue on my behalf. Thanks! Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen Nameservers are designated PER domain. You tell the registrar for a particular domain that your authoritative nameservers are at whatever fully qualified domain name and IP address. Prior to doing this with your registrar you should have the domain zone file properly setup on those nameservers. Hope this helps. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What does one call name server registration?
Hi Mike, What I have are two pairs in the following format: 1.2.3.4 a.ns.example.com 5.6.7.8 b.ns.example.com I think that what you are looking for is what is called NS reccord for the domain ns.example.com Good luck, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What does one call name server registration?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.comwrote: Hi, I'm having a problem making myself clear to my domain name registrar's tech support. I have set up djbdns on a couple of my own servers, and want them registered AS name servers with whoever handles such registration. Most registrars allow one to just enter their hostnames and IPs and they take care of it automagically. But my once-beloved registrar HJ Linnen just outsourced all their registration services to NameScout, and they haven't got a clue. When I looked into it in my account page at NameScout, they said to email tech support, so I did. And tech support replied with the end-user instructions for assigning name servers to the domains one has registered with them. That's not what I want. What I have are two pairs in the following format: 1.2.3.4 a.ns.example.com 5.6.7.8 b.ns.example.com I would like a domain to be able to set its name servers to be a.ns.example.com and b.ns.example.com, and then when that domain is resolved the lookup is delegated to either 1.2.3.4 or 5.6.7.8. What is the process called, of registering such name servers? If I can tell NameScout support to do that for me, possibly they can get themselves a clue on my behalf. Thanks! Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hello Mike, Just to point it out what i understand from your post is that you want the NSs to authoritative for your domain (example.com). So when someone queries for xyz.example.com your servers (a.ns.example OR b.ns.example.com) answer that query. Lets suppose the following example: You have 2 server that you want to enable BIND (or whatever DNS application) so they are authoritative for example.com. Server A - 1.2.3.4 - ns.A.example.com Server B - 5.6.7.8 - ns.B.example.com First when you register a domain you must point a NS for that domain. So when you register example.com you will assign ns.A.example.com (and B) as NSs for that particular domain. Now if the NS for one domain has the name of the domain in it (sort of speak, excuse my non-tech language) as ns.A.*example.com* does you need a so called GLUE record for those NSs. There you point out the IP add of the NS in question. Hope I understood right what you want and that my post helps you. a great day, v -- network warrior since 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What does one call name server registration?
Valentin and Olivier, Thank you very much for your kind help. I think what I needed were *both* NS and GLUE records. The NS record establishes a host as a nameserver, and the GLUE record allows the name server's own domain name to be within the domain it is the name server for - that is, GLUE records prevent infinite loops when looking up the domain it is a part of. I found a page in NameScout's Help section that said that if I just enter a totally new name server into my domain admin, they would take care of registering it automatically. That seems to have worked, but it was not at all obvious that that's what I needed to do. They also don't have any kind of automated interface for changing the name server info - one has to email tech support to do that. I could see it causing a lot of trouble, if confused users enter incorrect info, and NameScout interprets that as a request to establish NS and GLUE records for a new name server! Clearly, I myself have a lot of studying to do. The Wikipedia article on the Domain Name System is very helpful, for anyone else wanting info on this topic. Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What does one call name server registration?
Michael David Crawford wrote: Valentin and Olivier, Thank you very much for your kind help. I think what I needed were *both* NS and GLUE records. The NS record establishes a host as a nameserver, and the GLUE record allows the name server's own domain name to be within the domain it is the name server for - that is, GLUE records prevent infinite loops when looking up the domain it is a part of. Yes and no. Glue records make it possible to find the the NS in the first place; you're avoiding a broken chain rather than any risk of loops. zone for example.com mydomainIN NS ns.mydomain.example.com. zone for mydomain.example.com IN NS ns.mydomain.example.com. ns IN A 123.123.123.123 If you have the above, you've properly delegated the mydomain.example.com zone to ns.mydomain.example.com, but you'll never reach anything in that zone, as the only A record for the server is in the zone you're trying to find the server for, and you have no idea where that server is... So you have to put a ns.mydomain.example.com.IN A 123.123.123.123 record in the example.com zone so that recursive lookups can find that one critical address and access the mydomain zone. That's the glue record. -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: What does one call name server registration?
Michael David Crawford wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem making myself clear to my domain name registrar's tech support. I have set up djbdns on a couple of my own servers, and want them registered AS name servers with whoever handles such registration. Most registrars allow one to just enter their hostnames and IPs and they take care of it automagically. But my once-beloved registrar HJ Linnen just outsourced all their registration services to NameScout, and they haven't got a clue. When I looked into it in my account page at NameScout, they said to email tech support, so I did. And tech support replied with the end-user instructions for assigning name servers to the domains one has registered with them. That's not what I want. What I have are two pairs in the following format: 1.2.3.4 a.ns.example.com 5.6.7.8 b.ns.example.com I would like a domain to be able to set its name servers to be a.ns.example.com and b.ns.example.com, and then when that domain is resolved the lookup is delegated to either 1.2.3.4 or 5.6.7.8. What is the process called, of registering such name servers? If I can tell NameScout support to do that for me, possibly they can get themselves a clue on my behalf. Thanks! Mike ### Aloha, You can use Dotster to register any server right from the web-interface. No people no nothing to deal with. Doesn't your registrar have that service? -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
