Re: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Jud


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Spreng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: J. Foobar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:27:30 +0200
Subject: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:24:43AM -0700, J. Foobar wrote:
 I have been unable to get X to start successfully. 
 Hopefully I am overlooking something stupid.
 
 FreeBSD 4.6.2 on an Intel machine
 
 My graphics card is an Intel 82845G/GL.  I searched
 for info on the Intel site and it mentioned that this
 card is in the i810 class.
 
 From my XF86Config file:
 Section Device
 Identifier Card0
 Driver i810
 Chipset  i810
 CardIntel i810
 End Section
 
 I have added the agp_load=YES line to
 /boot/loader.conf and /dev/agpgart exists.
 
 'startx' returns the following:
 
 
 (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not
 configured)
 (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make
 sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the
 agpgart kernel module is loaded.
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable
 configuration.

 Fatal server error:
 no screens found


have you checked for agpgard support in your kernel as mentioned
above in the startx output?


**
**

Add the following to your kernel -

device  agp

You can add some comments if you like -

# Video

device  agp  #Graphics card

Then recompile your kernel.  If it still doesn't work,
I guess something else is borked.  I usually have my
best success configuring X using the old-fashioned
xf86config command and working through the subsequent
question-and-answer.

Jud


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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Thomas Spreng
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:24:43AM -0700, J. Foobar wrote:
 I have been unable to get X to start successfully. 
 Hopefully I am overlooking something stupid.
 
 FreeBSD 4.6.2 on an Intel machine
 
 My graphics card is an Intel 82845G/GL.  I searched
 for info on the Intel site and it mentioned that this
 card is in the i810 class.
 
 From my XF86Config file:
 Section Device
 Identifier Card0
 Driver i810
 Chipset  i810
 CardIntel i810
 End Section
 
 I have added the agp_load=YES line to
 /boot/loader.conf and /dev/agpgart exists.
 
 'startx' returns the following:
 
 
 (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not
 configured)
 (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make
 sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the
 agpgart kernel module is loaded.
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable
 configuration.
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 

have you checked for agpgard support in your kernel as mentioned
above in the startx output?


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Re: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-17 08:38:26 -0400:
 On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:24:43AM -0700, J. Foobar wrote:
  'startx' returns the following:
  
  
  (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not
  configured)
  (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make
  sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the
  agpgart kernel module is loaded.
^^^

 have you checked for agpgard support in your kernel as mentioned
 above in the startx output?
 
 Add the following to your kernel -
 
 device  agp
 
 Then recompile your kernel.

% su
# echo agp_load=YES  /boot/loader.conf
# kldload agp
# exit
% startx

enjoy

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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:24:43AM -0700, J. Foobar wrote:
 I have been unable to get X to start successfully. 
 Hopefully I am overlooking something stupid.
 
 FreeBSD 4.6.2 on an Intel machine
 
 My graphics card is an Intel 82845G/GL.  I searched
 for info on the Intel site and it mentioned that this
 card is in the i810 class.
 
 From my XF86Config file:
 Section Device
 Identifier Card0
 Driver i810
 Chipset  i810
 CardIntel i810
 End Section
 
 I have added the agp_load=YES line to
 /boot/loader.conf and /dev/agpgart exists.
 
 'startx' returns the following:
 
 
 (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not
 configured)
 (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make
 sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the
 agpgart kernel module is loaded.
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable
 configuration.
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 snip
 
 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
 shutdown)
 xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
 xauth: (argv:1: bad dusplay name in :0 in remove
 command
 xauth: (argv:1: bad dusplay name in :0 in remove
 command
 
 
 I really have no idea what to do next.  Any help would
 be appreciated, the more layman the terms, the better.
 
 Thanks,
 Justin

Have you run `kldstat' (man kldstat) to make sure that the AGP module is actually
loaded?

Nathan

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Re: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 03:37:38PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-17 08:38:26 -0400:
  On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:24:43AM -0700, J. Foobar wrote:
   'startx' returns the following:
   
   
   (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not
   configured)
   (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make
   sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the
   agpgart kernel module is loaded.
 ^^^
 
  have you checked for agpgard support in your kernel as mentioned
  above in the startx output?
  
  Add the following to your kernel -
  
  device  agp
  
  Then recompile your kernel.
 
 % su
 # echo agp_load=YES  /boot/loader.conf
 # kldload agp
 # exit
 % startx
 
 enjoy
 

Wait, do you have to both compile AGP support into the kernel AND load
an the kernel module?  Shouldn't it be just one or the other?

Nathan

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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 08:25:27AM -0700, Thanos Tsouanas wrote:

 comment out the line that starts xdm -nodaemon
 and add a similar one to start the XFree86
 
 sth like
 
 ttyv8 /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 xterm on secure
 
 this shud result in X starting every time you start your system with the X-mouse 
screen and the
 pixel-chessboard background.

Whoa! Bad karma. Doing this will result in an X session running as
root which anyone can just walk up to your machine and use.  You
really, really don't want to do that.

Honestly, this is exactly why xdm(1) exists.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-17 08:09:27 -0700:
 On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 03:37:38PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-17 08:38:26 -0400:
   On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:24:43AM -0700, J. Foobar wrote:
'startx' returns the following:


(EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not
configured)
(EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make
sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the
agpgart kernel module is loaded.
  ^^^
  
   have you checked for agpgard support in your kernel as mentioned
   above in the startx output?
   
   Add the following to your kernel -
   
   device  agp
   
   Then recompile your kernel.
  
  % su
  # echo agp_load=YES  /boot/loader.conf
  # kldload agp
  # exit
  % startx
  
  enjoy
  
 
 Wait, do you have to both compile AGP support into the kernel AND load
 an the kernel module?  Shouldn't it be just one or the other?

sorry for the confusion. this is what I meant:

as opposed to what quite a few people would like you to believe you
*don't* have to compile stuff into kernel to have the desired
functionality. i've successfully used dynamically loaded usb, agp,
and sound (at least two different sound cards) support over the last
year.

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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Jud


-Original Message-
From: Thanos Tsouanas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

wud it be better to comment out all the ttyv8 lines and start XFree86 as a normal 
user, and then
start windowmaker?

i really cant make xdm to work...
any suggestions?

*
*

Yes - it's often easier to go with a .xinitrc file
and type startx at the login prompt.

There's a good article by Dru Lavigne on how to set
this up:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/21/FreeBSD_Basics.html


Jud




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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread John Bleichert
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Thanos Tsouanas wrote:

 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Thanos Tsouanas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie
 
 wud it be better to comment out all the ttyv8 lines and start XFree86 as a normal 
user, and then
 start windowmaker?
 
 i really cant make xdm to work...
 any suggestions?
 

There's a thorough HowTo on setting up a display manager (e.g. xdm, kdm, 
...) here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html

I can't think of any reason why it won't work if you follow the 
instructions. Note that X *must* load properly for xdm to work properly. 
If you need to test and setup X first, use an xinitrc file, e.g.:

$ echo exec wmaker  /home/user/.xinitrc

and then try 'startx'. The Handbook page above should get you going with 
xdm.

HTH - JB

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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Thanos Tsouanas
wud it be better to comment out all the ttyv8 lines and start XFree86 as a normal 
user, and then
start windowmaker?

i really cant make xdm to work...
any suggestions?

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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Thanos Tsouanas

  wud it be better to comment out all the ttyv8 lines and start XFree86 as a normal 
user, and
 then
  start windowmaker?
  
  i really cant make xdm to work...
  any suggestions?
  
 
 There's a thorough HowTo on setting up a display manager (e.g. xdm, kdm, 
 ...) here:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html
 
 I can't think of any reason why it won't work if you follow the 
 instructions. Note that X *must* load properly for xdm to work properly. 
 If you need to test and setup X first, use an xinitrc file, e.g.:
 
 $ echo exec wmaker  /home/user/.xinitrc
 
 and then try 'startx'. The Handbook page above should get you going with 
 xdm.
 

i have followed the instructions on the HB and they didnt work, thats why i came up 
with the
insecure method... startx gives similar errors to the ones mentioned in the original 
msg.
any ideas why?



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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread RichardH
Are you root when doing the start commands? If you are not root you need to 
install the wrapper so other users can use X. /usr/ports/x11/wrapper

Richard H


At 12:55 PM 10/17/2002, Thanos Tsouanas wrote:

  wud it be better to comment out all the ttyv8 lines and start XFree86 
as a normal user, and
 then
  start windowmaker?
 
  i really cant make xdm to work...
  any suggestions?
 

 There's a thorough HowTo on setting up a display manager (e.g. xdm, kdm,
 ...) here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html

 I can't think of any reason why it won't work if you follow the
 instructions. Note that X *must* load properly for xdm to work properly.
 If you need to test and setup X first, use an xinitrc file, e.g.:

 $ echo exec wmaker  /home/user/.xinitrc

 and then try 'startx'. The Handbook page above should get you going with
 xdm.


i have followed the instructions on the HB and they didnt work, thats why 
i came up with the
insecure method... startx gives similar errors to the ones mentioned in 
the original msg.
any ideas why?



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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread RichardH
At 02:09 PM 10/17/2002, RichardH wrote:

Are you root when doing the start commands? If you are not root you need 
to install the wrapper so other users can use X. /usr/ports/x11/wrapper

Richard H

AHHH, sorry for top posting.

RH



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Re: X problems, please advise helpless newbie

2002-10-17 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Thanos Tsouanas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i have followed the instructions on the HB and they didnt work, thats why i came up 
with the
 insecure method... startx gives similar errors to the ones mentioned in the original 
msg.
 any ideas why?

You can get better control over what's going on by avoiding startx.

I use something like this (in a script which keeps root from using X):

/usr/X11R6/bin/xinit ~/.xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper-4

You should try omiting the second filename after ensuring that you don't
have that file (the default) and X should start up an xterm.

That Xwrapper-4 comes from the x11/wrapper package/port; it's used to
run X with non-root privileges and it expects your XF86Config to say
which X server module is to be used, etc.

You can probably start a window manager by using it's filename instead
of ~/.xinitrc, but most people use a file like that modeled on
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc

After you know that X will start, you can just start X after booting to
text mode like many people prefer to do, or go back and learn how to
configure one of the xdm/gdm/kdm gizmos at your leisure.

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