Re: Desktop FreeBSD - is it up to it?

2004-02-07 Thread peter lageotakes

--- vext01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music
 server for a while and it
 has performed flawlessly. good good! However
 recently I installed freebsd on
 my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it
 just seems that i need to
 be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root,
 I would be screwed.
 
 One point I find annoying is that I cant workout how
 a normal user can
 unmount a fs. I have created ~/cdrom and put an
 fstab entry in for it. The
 device is /dev/acd0 (777 for now). vfs.usermount=1.
 I can mount the share,
 but not unmount it. For now I have chmod +s
 /sbin/umount. This is bad and i
 wouldnt appreciate a normal user unmounting my hard
 disks. What is the proper
 way?? My version is 5.2-release.
 
 Also is there any guides online that tell you how
 freebsd can be configured
 as a desktop machine?
 
 Thanks
 vext01
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I hope these help.

Simple FreeBSD installation yields functional desktop
system:
http://www.newsforge.com/os/04/01/05/211225.shtml?tid=8tid=82tid=94

Desktop FreeBSD Part 2: Initial Setup
http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=282

Desktop FreeBSD Part 1: Installation
http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=272

Instant workstation installs a typical set of ports
for a workstation.:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/misc/instant-workstation/pkg-descr

FreeBSD 5.2 Lacks Polishing In Some Areas but Rules in
Others:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5821

A series of good articls.
http://www.onlamp.com/bsd/

As for mounting and unmounting a cdrom and etc., check
out: 

9.22. How do I let ordinary users mount floppies,
CDROMs and other removable media?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT



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Re: desktop freebsd??

2004-02-06 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Edd Barrett wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music server for a while and
 it has performed flawlessly. good good! However recently I installed freebsd
 on my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it just seems that i need
 to be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root, I would be screwed.

 Also is there any guides online that tell you how freebsd can be configured
 as a desktop machine?
What exactly should your desktop machine be able to do?
(I guess you are looking for graphical user enviroment like gnome
or kde, but there are dozens of possiblities in the ports tree.
And, if you like you also can do many things from the command line
using troff, vi, mail, lynx, mc and friends)

Regards,

Uli.



 Thanks
 vext01

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(const port *) Re: desktop freebsd??

2004-02-06 Thread Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:30:38 -
Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music server for a while and
 it has performed flawlessly. good good! However recently I installed freebsd
 on my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it just seems that i need
 to be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root, I would be screwed.
 
 One point I find annoying is that I cant workout how a normal user can
 unmount a fs. I have created ~/cdrom and put an fstab entry in for it. The
 device is /dev/acd0 (777 for now). vfs.usermount=1. I can mount the share,
 but not unmount it. For now I have chmod +s /sbin/umount. This is bad and i
 wouldnt appreciate a normal user unmounting my hard disks. What is the
 proper way?? My version is 5.2-release.
 

Use sudo. /usr/ports/security/sudo. Or super. Location same.

 Also is there any guides online that tell you how freebsd can be configured
 as a desktop machine?

/usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation :)

Just kidding. It's going to be *your* PC - find out what you like and
install what you like. I don't think anyone can recommend you anything
- unless you know someone who knows you better than you yourself.

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Re: desktop freebsd??

2004-02-06 Thread Darryl Grant
Perhaps you can use sudo for your normal user and setup the sudoers file for only the 
privleges you want your normal users to have.

HTH,

Darryl

On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:30:38AM -, Edd Barrett wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music server for a while and
 it has performed flawlessly. good good! However recently I installed freebsd
 on my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it just seems that i need
 to be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root, I would be screwed.
 
 One point I find annoying is that I cant workout how a normal user can
 unmount a fs. I have created ~/cdrom and put an fstab entry in for it. The
 device is /dev/acd0 (777 for now). vfs.usermount=1. I can mount the share,
 but not unmount it. For now I have chmod +s /sbin/umount. This is bad and i
 wouldnt appreciate a normal user unmounting my hard disks. What is the
 proper way?? My version is 5.2-release.
 
 Also is there any guides online that tell you how freebsd can be configured
 as a desktop machine?
 
 Thanks
 vext01
 
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Re: desktop freebsd??

2004-02-06 Thread Dan Pelleg
Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,
 I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music server for a while and
 it has performed flawlessly. good good! However recently I installed freebsd
 on my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it just seems that i need
 to be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root, I would be screwed.
 
 One point I find annoying is that I cant workout how a normal user can
 unmount a fs. I have created ~/cdrom and put an fstab entry in for it. The
 device is /dev/acd0 (777 for now). vfs.usermount=1. I can mount the share,
 but not unmount it. For now I have chmod +s /sbin/umount. This is bad and i
 wouldnt appreciate a normal user unmounting my hard disks. What is the
 proper way?? My version is 5.2-release.

Use the automounter. Not only will it save you the need to mount
altogether, it's also likely to handle unmounting correctly for you (if
not, just do amq -u as a regular user).

Details here:
http://www.daemonnews.org/200202/automounting.html

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Re: desktop freebsd??

2004-02-06 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Darryl Grant wrote:

Perhaps you can use sudo for your normal user and setup the sudoers file 
for only the privleges you want your normal users to have.

HTH,

Darryl

 

I've found this to be handy also in Gnome.  Assigning
sudo ppp -background myisp to an icon gives
a better then M$ functionality for my dialup connection.
Perhaps something similar could be done for mount/umount
of the CD device
Any security types out there feel a need to comment? :-)

Kevin Kinsey

On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:30:38AM -, Edd Barrett wrote:
 

Hi all,
I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music server for a while and
it has performed flawlessly. good good! However recently I installed freebsd
on my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it just seems that i need
to be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root, I would be screwed.
One point I find annoying is that I cant workout how a normal user can
unmount a fs. I have created ~/cdrom and put an fstab entry in for it. The
device is /dev/acd0 (777 for now). vfs.usermount=1. I can mount the share,
but not unmount it. For now I have chmod +s /sbin/umount. This is bad and i
wouldnt appreciate a normal user unmounting my hard disks. What is the
proper way?? My version is 5.2-release.
Also is there any guides online that tell you how freebsd can be configured
as a desktop machine?
Thanks
vext01
   



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Re: desktop freebsd??

2004-02-06 Thread greg
Make yourself part of the wheel group. That should solve a lot of your
problems. 

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 05:30, Edd Barrett wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have been using freebsd for my web/database/music server for a while and
 it has performed flawlessly. good good! However recently I installed freebsd
 on my desktop too. I can do the things I want to, it just seems that i need
 to be root to do a lot of things. If I didnt have root, I would be screwed.
 
 One point I find annoying is that I cant workout how a normal user can
 unmount a fs. I have created ~/cdrom and put an fstab entry in for it. The
 device is /dev/acd0 (777 for now). vfs.usermount=1. I can mount the share,
 but not unmount it. For now I have chmod +s /sbin/umount. This is bad and i
 wouldnt appreciate a normal user unmounting my hard disks. What is the
 proper way?? My version is 5.2-release.
 
 Also is there any guides online that tell you how freebsd can be configured
 as a desktop machine?
 
 Thanks
 vext01
 
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