Re: hardware question

2007-03-02 Thread jekillen


On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


jekillen wrote:

On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would 
have

it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?
By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K


Maybe. Read this document: 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.

-Garrett

Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message 
and then
decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I 
came up
with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look 
back at the
specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards 
and there
it was, pretty plain. There is still a problem. One of the cards is 
initializing and
the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the 
punch line
is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in 
ifconfig.
I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it 
appears
that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is 
listed as supported
by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit 
Controller is not

listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent.
thanks for the response.
Jeff K


There's always -current or an RMA. Weird though... I didn't think that 
the slot size was large enough though for a PCIx card slot. 
Interesting...


There  is more, I had one card in the secondary x16 slot and one card 
in the usable x1 slot. I noticed that in the above situation, the fwe 
inteface

was still configured.
I took the card from the secondary x16 slot and put it in the primary 
x16 slot, Booted up and the em0 interface came up. I shut down the fwe 
interface
and was able to ping the em0 interface. I moved the card from the 
usable x1 slot and moved it to the secondary x16 slot. Now both cards 
show up
as up and running but I cannot ping the em1 interface. I went into 
rc.conf and took out the fwe configuration line. It still shows up in 
ifconfig listed
between em0 and em1. I am suspecting that this interface is somehow 
interfering with the em1 interface. So progress is happening but I am 
weary
of the sleuthing I have to do to get things working. At least I do have 
one enet connection to the machine, now.

Jeff K

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Re: hardware question

2007-03-01 Thread Garrett Cooper

jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have
it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?

By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K


Maybe. Read this document: http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.
-Garrett
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Re: hardware question

2007-03-01 Thread Garrett Cooper

Garrett Cooper wrote:

jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have
it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?

By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K


Maybe. Read this document: http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.
-Garrett



Actually after looking at the size and slots of PCI-Express x16 vs 
standard PCIe, _no_, you can't. In 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3767 there's a picture 
comparing PCIe x16 to PCI, PCIe x8, and PCI-X, and there's no way that 
it will fit... Besides the PCI-x has 1 lane while PCI-x16 has 16. That's 
what I get for not having a up to date machine that I could judge this 
from (still stuck in the PCI dark ages).


-Garrett
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Re: hardware question

2007-03-01 Thread jekillen


On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


Garrett Cooper wrote:

jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have
it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?

By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K
Maybe. Read this document: 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.

-Garrett


Actually after looking at the size and slots of PCI-Express x16 vs 
standard PCIe, _no_, you can't. In 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3767 there's a picture 
comparing PCIe x16 to PCI, PCIe x8, and PCI-X, and there's no way that 
it will fit... Besides the PCI-x has 1 lane while PCI-x16 has 16. 
That's what I get for not having a up to date machine that I could 
judge this from (still stuck in the PCI dark ages).


-Garrett



Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message and 
then
decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I came 
up
with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look back 
at the
specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards 
and there

it was, pretty plain.
Compatible with x1, x4, x8, and x16 full-height and low-profile PCI 
Express slots

There is still a problem. One of the cards is initializing and
the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the punch 
line
is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in 
ifconfig.
I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it 
appears
that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is 
listed as supported
by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit 
Controller is not

listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent.
thanks for the response. I guess I will try the driver source route 
from another
message from this list, for the Marvell interfaces. I will have to burn 
it to a cd

and install from that.
Jeff K


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Re: hardware question

2007-03-01 Thread Garrett Cooper

jekillen wrote:


On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have
it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?
By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K


Maybe. Read this document: 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.

-Garrett



Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message and 
then

decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I came up
with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look back 
at the
specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards 
and there
it was, pretty plain. There is still a problem. One of the cards is 
initializing and
the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the punch 
line
is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in 
ifconfig.
I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it 
appears
that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is listed 
as supported
by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit 
Controller is not

listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent.
thanks for the response.
Jeff K


There's always -current or an RMA. Weird though... I didn't think that 
the slot size was large enough though for a PCIx card slot. Interesting...


Learn something new everyday..
-Garrett
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