Re: Sendmail waiting?

2003-01-02 Thread Brian Astill
Thanks for the help - there is a fix in there somewhere  :-)

Saw this in cvs-commit:

Modified files:(Branch: RELENG_5_0)
   sys/fs/fifofsfifo_vnops.c 
 Log:
 MFC: Put a one-second timeout (And a XXX: comment) on a tsleep which
 under certain not understood circumstances hangs sendmail during
 boot.

Looks like there might be a  bug somewhere in my system, too.  Might 
explain the intermittent naure of the problem?

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Re: Sendmail waiting?

2003-01-02 Thread Matthew Emmerton
> >>My silly system ...  Using 4.6 RELEASE, 1.1G Athlon ABit KT7A VIA
> >>chipset - running FVCool permanently in idle mode to maintain
> >>CPU cool
> >>temperature.  The really silly bit is ...
> >>
> >>I don't switch off every day, but I have noticed that, on restart,
> >>loading sometimes waits "for ever" at "installing standard daemons"
> >>sendmail.  Last night the wait was 2 full minutes, and the effect was
> >>for me not to be able to get X and worse - "getty repeating
> >>too fast -
> >>sleeping for 30 seconds"  During that sleep, I could work from the
> >>console normally, but then the screen blanked and fluttered
> >>for several
> >>seconds before the sleeping phase was again reimposed.
> >>
> >>This morning - not expecting too much - I switched on and this time
> >>loading swept past sendmail without delay and everything is working
> >>normally again.
> >>
> >>I do not propose to switch off for some time.   :-)
> >>
> >>Q1.  Can anyone suggest any explanation for the sendmail-wait problem
> >>and subsequent horrors?
> >>Q2.  I am cvsupping and ready to update to the latest stable.
> >> Is this sound, and is it in any way likely to resolve my problem with
> >>v 4.6 RELEASE?
> >>
> >My experience is that if your network goes down or DNS cannot easily
> >resolve your name, sendmail will pause for a bit.  I believe installing
> >a caching(sp) name server on the box will probably help out.  I cannot
> >remember the command to install it, so check the archives, but it is
> >really simple.
> >
> > Michael K. Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Whenever I see that hang on sendmail it is due to a network
> >> failure.   Usually the machine cannot contact its IP default gateway.
> >
> Thanks, guys - but why would this be an intermittent problem?  And - why
> would it affect my access to X?  The Good Lord knows what was going on
> last night with the repeating getty! :-)
>
> Everything is just fine, now - my real problem is how can I keep it that
> way?  That of course requires my identifying the cause.
> One clue - I recently went broadband with an ADSL modem and that modem
> is set up as my default gateway.  It is a Netcomm NB1300.
>
> That caching name server idea sounds good. I will have a search on FBSD
> org for that.  That still wouldn't identify the cause, though.   :-(

I assume that your ADSL provider uses PPPoE -- how to you fire up your PPP
interface at boot?

I do this in /etc/rc.conf, which forces ppp to establish a connection before
progressing with the boot, which means that the net connection is up by the
time sendmail is started:

# PPP
ppp_enable="YES"
ppp_profile="HSE"
ppp_mode="ddial"

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Re: Sendmail waiting?

2003-01-02 Thread Brian Astill
Derrick Ryalls wrote:


My silly system ...  Using 4.6 RELEASE, 1.1G Athlon ABit KT7A VIA 
chipset - running FVCool permanently in idle mode to maintain 
CPU cool 
temperature.  The really silly bit is ...

I don't switch off every day, but I have noticed that, on restart, 
loading sometimes waits "for ever" at "installing standard daemons" 
sendmail.  Last night the wait was 2 full minutes, and the effect was 
for me not to be able to get X and worse - "getty repeating 
too fast - 
sleeping for 30 seconds"  During that sleep, I could work from the 
console normally, but then the screen blanked and fluttered 
for several 
seconds before the sleeping phase was again reimposed.

This morning - not expecting too much - I switched on and this time 
loading swept past sendmail without delay and everything is working 
normally again.

I do not propose to switch off for some time.   :-)

Q1.  Can anyone suggest any explanation for the sendmail-wait problem 
and subsequent horrors?
Q2.  I am cvsupping and ready to update to the latest stable. 
Is this sound, and is it in any way likely to resolve my problem with 
v 4.6 RELEASE?

My experience is that if your network goes down or DNS cannot easily
resolve your name, sendmail will pause for a bit.  I believe installing
a caching(sp) name server on the box will probably help out.  I cannot
remember the command to install it, so check the archives, but it is
really simple.

Michael K. Smith wrote:


Whenever I see that hang on sendmail it is due to a network 
failure.   Usually the machine cannot contact its IP default gateway.  


Thanks, guys - but why would this be an intermittent problem?  And - why 
would it affect my access to X?  The Good Lord knows what was going on 
last night with the repeating getty! :-)

Everything is just fine, now - my real problem is how can I keep it that 
way?  That of course requires my identifying the cause.
One clue - I recently went broadband with an ADSL modem and that modem 
is set up as my default gateway.  It is a Netcomm NB1300.

That caching name server idea sounds good. I will have a search on FBSD 
org for that.  That still wouldn't identify the cause, though.   :-(

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RE: Sendmail waiting?

2003-01-02 Thread Derrick Ryalls


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Astill
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Sendmail waiting?
> 
> 
> My silly system ...  Using 4.6 RELEASE, 1.1G Athlon ABit KT7A VIA 
> chipset - running FVCool permanently in idle mode to maintain 
> CPU cool 
> temperature.  The really silly bit is ...
> 
> I don't switch off every day, but I have noticed that, on restart, 
> loading sometimes waits "for ever" at "installing standard daemons" 
> sendmail.  Last night the wait was 2 full minutes, and the effect was 
> for me not to be able to get X and worse - "getty repeating 
> too fast - 
> sleeping for 30 seconds"  During that sleep, I could work from the 
> console normally, but then the screen blanked and fluttered 
> for several 
> seconds before the sleeping phase was again reimposed.
> 
> This morning - not expecting too much - I switched on and this time 
> loading swept past sendmail without delay and everything is working 
> normally again.
> 
> I do not propose to switch off for some time.   :-)
> 
> Q1.  Can anyone suggest any explanation for the sendmail-wait problem 
> and subsequent horrors?
> Q2.  I am cvsupping and ready to update to the latest stable. 
>  Is this 
> sound, and is it in any way likely to resolve my problem with 
> v 4.6 RELEASE?
> 

My experience is that if your network goes down or DNS cannot easily
resolve your name, sendmail will pause for a bit.  I believe installing
a caching(sp) name server on the box will probably help out.  I cannot
remember the command to install it, so check the archives, but it is
really simple.

Hope this helps.


> Thanks in advance.
> 
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> 
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