Re: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-19 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 22:59 -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote:
> On Monday 18 February 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt said:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Da Rock
> > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but
> > > getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm
> > > using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet.
> > >
> > > What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem
> > > is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm
> > > wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source.
> >
> > You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to
> > compile. You may find that it would work a lot better though if you
> > change the xattr.h include to:
> >
> > include 
> >
> > The problem will be in the link stage.  If the libraries that you
> > have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in
> > xattr.h then you will get link failures.
> >
> > However I don't really understand why your having problems.  The
> > SF page for this, here:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl
> >
> > claims:
> >
> > "Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)"
> >
> > This would indicate a configure script that understands
> > FreeBSD is present.  It sounds to me like you are not
> > following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module
> > to build it properly.  What exactly are you doing?  Could you
> > post the steps your going through to build this?
> >
> > I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in
> > future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the
> > industry now?
> >
> > Ted
> 
> He also might want to look at Horde. You can install from 
> www/horde-meta and choose the kronolith module. 
> 
> >From their website:
> 
> "The Kronolith calendar provides a robust web-based calendar for any 
> number of users or groups, with the ability to show any number of 
> calendars in a single overlaid view. Users can create any number of 
> calendars and grant read, edit, or full permissions to any user, 
> group, or any combination thereof."
> 
> Beech
> 

I understand what you're saying about the usability of the code acroos
platforms, however, the code will only work on systems which support
extended attributes, it must have that header file, and the developer
has refused to build for anything beyond debian (God knows why!). It has
been pointed out in the forums there (Only 3 postings and that includes
myself... hmmm. What does that tell you?) that while the sourceforge
system says its cross platform that it doesn't work cross platforms, and
so should be corrected- and that person was building for bsd too.

So, where does that leave us?

Incidentally, since when do we care what BS Microcrap is doing with
their toy servers? (I've had plenty of crap go on with MS and their
systems, my laptop manufacturer only supports them and gives me curry
every time I ask for warranty, and MS cancelled my hotmail account to
boot. Apparently I transgressed, but I haven't, I have important emails
I can't access now, and their system has no way to contact me with a
reply as to what I've done- life is wonderful!)

The question remains is does kronolith provide caldav access for
evolution, and does it connect via apache?

I'm currently trying to get bedework working, but I'm having trouble
linking Tomcat 6 and Apache (Bedework appears to fit all these criteria
that I require). I can access Tomcat directly, and Apache is ok, I
checked the config for the mod_jk and I think its working, but when I
try to navigate to Tomcat via Apache I get a 404 from Tomcat. Does
anyone know how to fix this? It seems I have the connector working and
there is something in Tomcat to configure but I don't know what.

Thanks for the feedback guys- its all been helpful. I hope I'll have an
answer soon which I'll post back, and maybe make up a how-to, package or
port. Keep it all coming...

Cheers

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Re: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-19 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Monday 18 February 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt said:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Da Rock
> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server...
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but
> > getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm
> > using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet.
> >
> > What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem
> > is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm
> > wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source.
>
> You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to
> compile. You may find that it would work a lot better though if you
> change the xattr.h include to:
>
> include 
>
> The problem will be in the link stage.  If the libraries that you
> have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in
> xattr.h then you will get link failures.
>
> However I don't really understand why your having problems.  The
> SF page for this, here:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl
>
> claims:
>
> "Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)"
>
> This would indicate a configure script that understands
> FreeBSD is present.  It sounds to me like you are not
> following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module
> to build it properly.  What exactly are you doing?  Could you
> post the steps your going through to build this?
>
> I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in
> future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the
> industry now?
>
> Ted

He also might want to look at Horde. You can install from 
www/horde-meta and choose the kronolith module. 

From their website:

"The Kronolith calendar provides a robust web-based calendar for any 
number of users or groups, with the ability to show any number of 
calendars in a single overlaid view. Users can create any number of 
calendars and grant read, edit, or full permissions to any user, 
group, or any combination thereof."

Beech

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RE: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Da Rock
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server...
> 
> 
> 
> I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but getting
> tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm using mod_jk but
> it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet.
> 
> What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem is
> mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm wondering if
> we can "borrow" the headers from another source.
> 

You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to compile.
You may find that it would work a lot better though if you
change the xattr.h include to:

include 

The problem will be in the link stage.  If the libraries that you
have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in
xattr.h then you will get link failures.

However I don't really understand why your having problems.  The
SF page for this, here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl

claims:

"Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)"

This would indicate a configure script that understands
FreeBSD is present.  It sounds to me like you are not
following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module
to build it properly.  What exactly are you doing?  Could you
post the steps your going through to build this?

I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in
future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the
industry now?

Ted
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Re: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-18 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 00:26 +0100, Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +
> Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> > I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that
> > will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server,
> > but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means
> > evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a
> > mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others).
> 
> I'm currently looking for a caldav/calendar server myself. There are
> actually quite a few, but I guess a lot won't met your specific
> requirements. To name a few:
> 
> caldav:
>  - bedework
>  - davical
>  - zimbra
>  - cosmo
> 
> webdav:
>  - horde
>  - phpcalendar
> 
> Bedework seems to be a nice choice, I haven't found a way to integrate
> tomcat into LDAP yet. But I'm not familiar with tomcat, so that's to be
> expected. Davical doesn't seem to care about the access rights I
> configured in the web interface, a bug I guess.
> 
> > So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction
> > (mod_caldav), but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've
> > requested support on the forum their at sourceforge, but I have had
> > no response for over a week, and no responses have been issued since
> > april 2006.
> 
> I didn't know that such a module existed, I'll look into it! :)
> 
>   Jan-Hendrik Zab

I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but getting
tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm using mod_jk but
it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet.

What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem is
mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm wondering if
we can "borrow" the headers from another source.

I haven't checked zimbra or cosmo properly yet, but at first glance it
appeared they didn't quite have what I wanted.

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Re: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-18 Thread Jan-Hendrik Zab
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +
Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey,
> I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that
> will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server,
> but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means
> evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a
> mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others).

I'm currently looking for a caldav/calendar server myself. There are
actually quite a few, but I guess a lot won't met your specific
requirements. To name a few:

caldav:
 - bedework
 - davical
 - zimbra
 - cosmo

webdav:
 - horde
 - phpcalendar

Bedework seems to be a nice choice, I haven't found a way to integrate
tomcat into LDAP yet. But I'm not familiar with tomcat, so that's to be
expected. Davical doesn't seem to care about the access rights I
configured in the web interface, a bug I guess.

> So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction
> (mod_caldav), but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've
> requested support on the forum their at sourceforge, but I have had
> no response for over a week, and no responses have been issued since
> april 2006.

I didn't know that such a module existed, I'll look into it! :)

Jan-Hendrik Zab
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RE: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-18 Thread Da Rock



> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:52:58 +1300
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server...
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:21:44AM +, Da Rock wrote:
>> 
>> I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will 
>> work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are 
>> not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, 
>> and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in 
>> the middle (probably with others).
>> 
> 
> You could try Bedework http://www.bedework.org/ and see if that fits
> with what you want. However, it requires Java Web container to live
> in.
> 
> Cheers.
> -- 
> Jonathan Chen 
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>You just get used to them."
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It looks almost perfect, but once again I have been stumbled. I need to setup 
tomcat to get it working, and tomcat is now installed, but the apache connector 
is the tough point again- I'm trying to install mod_webapp as per instructions 
here (http://www.osnews.com/story/3558), but the port breaks with missing 
includes.

It appears FreeBSD just doesn't want to be a calendar server! I am chasing 
either the developer or another poor soul trying to get the mod_dav_acl (which 
is required by mod_caldav) to work on anything other than linux. Once this 
hurdle is worked out then the caldav module might work very well.

As for bedework I'll keep on that track- I have to get somewhere eventually! 
One way or the other

At the end I'll post the result, and maybe I'll work on a port or something.
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Re: Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-17 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:21:44AM +, Da Rock wrote:
> 
> I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will 
> work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are 
> not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, 
> and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in 
> the middle (probably with others).
> 

You could try Bedework http://www.bedework.org/ and see if that fits
with what you want. However, it requires Java Web container to live
in.

Cheers.
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Still looking for a calendar server...

2008-02-17 Thread Da Rock

I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will work 
with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are not going 
to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, and evolution 
won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle 
(probably with others).

So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction (mod_caldav), 
but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've requested support on the forum 
their at sourceforge, but I have had no response for over a week, and no 
responses have been issued since april 2006.

So now I'm wondering where to start: is it possible to build on this code to 
achieve what I want? Does anyone know where to get help developing an Apache 
module? (especially seeing as this will be my first attempt at c++ programming)

Current issues with this module atm is a missing xattr.h file. I'm wondering if 
it can be changed to support the extended attributes natively in freebsd ufs2. 
I'd also like to consider using mysql or other db as a backend.

I'm scouring the script as of now, and I figure that an Apache module will be 
more stable and easier to administer. Any help would be appreciated here.

Cheers
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