Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 22:11 -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:00:06 +0100
Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 19:05 -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:57:56 +0100 (BST)
Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, June 10, 2005 12:14, Mario Hoerich said:
# Vulpes Velox:
Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ graphics tablet and FreeBSD? ]
Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent
(i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality
should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter.
[...]
Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB
list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are.
USB tablets won't work, I think (see
URL:http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/all).
|
| I recognize that FreeBSD and similar systems have USB
support; | however, until someone can bridge the gap between
the FreeBSD | kernel and the XFree86 driver, the problem is
largely unsolved.
I've googled quite extensively for that a while back and came
up with pretty much nothing (except for some posters whose
questions about tablets remained unanswered).
I'd actually love to be proved wrong here. ;)
I remember doing the same several months back. From what I
remember finding is that it was fixed in netbsd. No clue if it
ever got copied over.
Cheers,
Mario
--
Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand
gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei
seiner Räder für intakt erklärt.
-- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die
Rechtschraipreform
Well I've done a bit of research now and decided on a Logitech
Optical Trackman and given up on the idea of a tablet, the
serial ones cost around £400 and that's too much for the use
it'd get. Shame, I'd have enjoyed a new toy...
See if you can find a old Acecad Acecat Flair. It is serial but
works pretty decent.y
I'll keep an eye out. Shame about the Wacom USB ones (albeit
they're not cheap), they look pretty good. A case of the more you
see the more you want...
On a really positive note I have to retrain myself to use a scroll
wheel with the trackman optical cordless now I got it working. I'm
still going to the right every time I want to move down.
In fact the documentation or getting odd rodents working under X is
not well documented in the handbook. Anyone wanna take me up on
that in the doc list?
I just plugged my mouse in and it worked. AFAIK you don't have to do
any thing moused if it is started at boot time. You will have to mess
with X to get the scroll wheel working.
Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/sysmouse
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection
Hmm... I wonder if that is in the handbook...
Sadly it's not that simple. I agree that for most mice that should be
sufficient, however it looks as though the sysmouse mechanism doesn't
provide for a number of things when it's USB, when it's cordless (God
knows why that makes a difference,) etc.:
The section I've got in xorg.conf now looks like this:
Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceTouchpad CorePointer
InputDeviceUSBMouse AlwaysCore
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection
...
Section InputDevice
Identifier USBMouse
Driver mouse
Option Protocol Auto
Option Device /dev/ums0
Option Buttons 10
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option DragLockButtons 6
Option AngleOffset -7
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier Touchpad
Driver mouse
Option Protocol Auto
Option Device /dev/psm0
Option Buttons 6
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection
That seems to do it for X, but only if you disable moused, not only in
rc.conf, but also by commenting out the mouse line in usbd.conf as well,
otherwise X cannot communicate directly to the device in /dev and will
fail to start. E.g.;
# The entry below starts moused when a mouse is plugged in. Moused
# stops automatically (actually it bombs :) when the device disappears.
#
#device Mouse
# devname ums[0-9]+
# attach /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/${DEVNAME}
-I /var/run/moused.${DEVNAME}.pid -z 4 5 ; /usr/sbin/vidcontrol -m on
Without doing this I can use the trackball, but not the scroll wheel.
Well it works for me anyway.
Jon
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Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
# Vulpes Velox: Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ graphics tablet and FreeBSD? ] Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. [...] Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are. USB tablets won't work, I think (see URL:http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/all). | | I recognize that FreeBSD and similar systems have USB support; | however, until someone can bridge the gap between the FreeBSD | kernel and the XFree86 driver, the problem is largely unsolved. I've googled quite extensively for that a while back and came up with pretty much nothing (except for some posters whose questions about tablets remained unanswered). I'd actually love to be proved wrong here. ;) Cheers, Mario -- Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei seiner Räder für intakt erklärt. -- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die Rechtschraipreform ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
On Fri, June 10, 2005 12:14, Mario Hoerich said: # Vulpes Velox: Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ graphics tablet and FreeBSD? ] Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. [...] Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are. USB tablets won't work, I think (see URL:http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/all). | | I recognize that FreeBSD and similar systems have USB support; | however, until someone can bridge the gap between the FreeBSD | kernel and the XFree86 driver, the problem is largely unsolved. I've googled quite extensively for that a while back and came up with pretty much nothing (except for some posters whose questions about tablets remained unanswered). I'd actually love to be proved wrong here. ;) Cheers, Mario -- Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei seiner Räder für intakt erklärt. -- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die Rechtschraipreform Well I've done a bit of research now and decided on a Logitech Optical Trackman and given up on the idea of a tablet, the serial ones cost around £400 and that's too much for the use it'd get. Shame, I'd have enjoyed a new toy... Thanks for the help, Jon --- Achean Ltdhttp://www.achean.com Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:57:56 +0100 (BST) Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, June 10, 2005 12:14, Mario Hoerich said: # Vulpes Velox: Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ graphics tablet and FreeBSD? ] Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. [...] Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are. USB tablets won't work, I think (see URL:http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/all). | | I recognize that FreeBSD and similar systems have USB support; | however, until someone can bridge the gap between the FreeBSD | kernel and the XFree86 driver, the problem is largely unsolved. I've googled quite extensively for that a while back and came up with pretty much nothing (except for some posters whose questions about tablets remained unanswered). I'd actually love to be proved wrong here. ;) I remember doing the same several months back. From what I remember finding is that it was fixed in netbsd. No clue if it ever got copied over. Cheers, Mario -- Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei seiner Räder für intakt erklärt. -- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die Rechtschraipreform Well I've done a bit of research now and decided on a Logitech Optical Trackman and given up on the idea of a tablet, the serial ones cost around £400 and that's too much for the use it'd get. Shame, I'd have enjoyed a new toy... See if you can find a old Acecad Acecat Flair. It is serial but works pretty decent.y ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 19:05 -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:57:56 +0100 (BST) Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, June 10, 2005 12:14, Mario Hoerich said: # Vulpes Velox: Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ graphics tablet and FreeBSD? ] Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. [...] Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are. USB tablets won't work, I think (see URL:http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/all). | | I recognize that FreeBSD and similar systems have USB support; | however, until someone can bridge the gap between the FreeBSD | kernel and the XFree86 driver, the problem is largely unsolved. I've googled quite extensively for that a while back and came up with pretty much nothing (except for some posters whose questions about tablets remained unanswered). I'd actually love to be proved wrong here. ;) I remember doing the same several months back. From what I remember finding is that it was fixed in netbsd. No clue if it ever got copied over. Cheers, Mario -- Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei seiner Räder für intakt erklärt. -- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die Rechtschraipreform Well I've done a bit of research now and decided on a Logitech Optical Trackman and given up on the idea of a tablet, the serial ones cost around £400 and that's too much for the use it'd get. Shame, I'd have enjoyed a new toy... See if you can find a old Acecad Acecat Flair. It is serial but works pretty decent.y I'll keep an eye out. Shame about the Wacom USB ones (albeit they're not cheap), they look pretty good. A case of the more you see the more you want... On a really positive note I have to retrain myself to use a scroll wheel with the trackman optical cordless now I got it working. I'm still going to the right every time I want to move down. In fact the documentation or getting odd rodents working under X is not well documented in the handbook. Anyone wanna take me up on that in the doc list? Jon PS. Not actually subscribed to the doc list. -- --- Achean Ltdhttp://www.achean.com Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:00:06 +0100 Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 19:05 -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:57:56 +0100 (BST) Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, June 10, 2005 12:14, Mario Hoerich said: # Vulpes Velox: Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ graphics tablet and FreeBSD? ] Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. [...] Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are. USB tablets won't work, I think (see URL:http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/all). | | I recognize that FreeBSD and similar systems have USB support; | however, until someone can bridge the gap between the FreeBSD | kernel and the XFree86 driver, the problem is largely unsolved. I've googled quite extensively for that a while back and came up with pretty much nothing (except for some posters whose questions about tablets remained unanswered). I'd actually love to be proved wrong here. ;) I remember doing the same several months back. From what I remember finding is that it was fixed in netbsd. No clue if it ever got copied over. Cheers, Mario -- Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei seiner Räder für intakt erklärt. -- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die Rechtschraipreform Well I've done a bit of research now and decided on a Logitech Optical Trackman and given up on the idea of a tablet, the serial ones cost around £400 and that's too much for the use it'd get. Shame, I'd have enjoyed a new toy... See if you can find a old Acecad Acecat Flair. It is serial but works pretty decent.y I'll keep an eye out. Shame about the Wacom USB ones (albeit they're not cheap), they look pretty good. A case of the more you see the more you want... On a really positive note I have to retrain myself to use a scroll wheel with the trackman optical cordless now I got it working. I'm still going to the right every time I want to move down. In fact the documentation or getting odd rodents working under X is not well documented in the handbook. Anyone wanna take me up on that in the doc list? I just plugged my mouse in and it worked. AFAIK you don't have to do any thing moused if it is started at boot time. You will have to mess with X to get the scroll wheel working. Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Hmm... I wonder if that is in the handbook... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
Can anyone here recommend a trackball and/or graphics tablet for FBSD? Gotta get away from the Synaptics touchpad, it's too slow for me, so looking to get a trackball for general use, and as I dabble on Gimp I'd like to get hold of a tablet as well. Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. Any takers? --- Achean Ltdhttp://www.achean.com Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trackball and graphics tablet recommendations
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:44:44 +0100 (BST) Jon Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone here recommend a trackball and/or graphics tablet for FBSD? Gotta get away from the Synaptics touchpad, it's too slow for me, so looking to get a trackball for general use, and as I dabble on Gimp I'd like to get hold of a tablet as well. Only restriction is that it has to be relatively recent (i.e. still in the shops) and most of the functionality should work. PS2 or USB doen't matter. Any trackball shout work nicely. That is because they are just a upside down mouse. I recently picked up a old Microsoft trackball and am currently enjoying using it in UT2004. Not sure about tablets. You may want to check on the USB list to see what the status of the Wacom ones are. IIRC those have show up as multiple USB devices on a single device... or something like that... and that use to cause problems at one time. I have a old serial Acecad one I use. It works nicely. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
