Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-21 Thread Frank Laszlo
Kevin Glick wrote:
Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It 
wont work, thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.
 

I beg to differ, it works fine.  I used a GeForce MX440, with
dual VGA outputs to two 21 monitors, and ran many GL apps
across both monitors.  Quake 3 at 3200x1200 is pretty cool.
Kevin Glick
ITS Manager
Sterling Business Forms
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Maybe it was only an issue when using multiple video cards, I havent had 
a chance to try a dual-head card myself.

Regards,
   Frank
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-21 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:06:38 -0400
Frank Laszlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin Glick wrote:
 
 Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It 
 wont work, thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.
   
 
 
 I beg to differ, it works fine.  I used a GeForce MX440, with
 dual VGA outputs to two 21 monitors, and ran many GL apps
 across both monitors.  Quake 3 at 3200x1200 is pretty cool.
 
 Kevin Glick
 ITS Manager
 Sterling Business Forms
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   
 
 
 Maybe it was only an issue when using multiple video cards, I havent
 had a chance to try a dual-head card myself.

Yeah, it is if one is or is not a nvidia on both 4x/5x...

And if one is a pci on 4x, then most likely there too...
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Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Hey everyone.

I'm considering an addition to the desktop.  Namely a second monitor to
set up a two faced system.  Maybe it's really a two headed system?

Either way, it was real easy to talk the boss (read wife) into it.  I
just mentioned that I was considering one of two things:  A new laptop
or a second monitor to set up this.  Her first question was what will
they cost?  You can guess the rest.

Now, my current card supports both standard video and DVI outputs, so
I'm wondering if this is as simple as making the screen resolution twice
as wide, or if I really have to get a second card.

Something tells me it's not that simple.

I've heard xinerama mentioned a few times in contexts that suggest it
might be related to this task, but I'm not able to find anymore detail
on it.  X.org directed me to the sourceforge site, but all I can gather
from that is that it is in the Desktop Environment category.  There are
no docs; there is no summary that tells what it does (it could be a
screensaver for all I can tell from that).

Searching the archives for dual monitor came up empty.

I have to assume I am missing the majick phrase to get all the real info
on this subject.

So, my questions:
Is anyone out there doing this with FreeBSD?
Where the heck is the FM?

BTW, the system in question is running xorg with FVWM 2.4.18 (from the
ports), and will ultimately be running RELENG_5_3.

TIA
Lou
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RE: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Michael Clark
 -Original Message-
 From: Louis LeBlanc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 1:32 PM
 To: FreeBSD Questions
 Subject: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?
 
 
 Hey everyone.
 
 I'm considering an addition to the desktop.  Namely a second 
 monitor to
 set up a two faced system.  Maybe it's really a two headed system?
 
 Either way, it was real easy to talk the boss (read wife) into it.  I
 just mentioned that I was considering one of two things:  A new laptop
 or a second monitor to set up this.  Her first question was what will
 they cost?  You can guess the rest.
 
 Now, my current card supports both standard video and DVI outputs, so
 I'm wondering if this is as simple as making the screen 
 resolution twice
 as wide, or if I really have to get a second card.
 
 Something tells me it's not that simple.
 
 I've heard xinerama mentioned a few times in contexts that suggest it
 might be related to this task, but I'm not able to find anymore detail
 on it.  X.org directed me to the sourceforge site, but all I 
 can gather
 from that is that it is in the Desktop Environment category.  
 There are
 no docs; there is no summary that tells what it does (it could be a
 screensaver for all I can tell from that).
 
 Searching the archives for dual monitor came up empty.

XFree86 supported this, am I am sure Xorg does as well.  You just have to
make some changes to the configuration
and compile with Xinerama support.  I ran this setup on XFree86 for a long
time.  I got all my information from
XFree86.org and google on xinerama.  I dont have the computer here to post
the config =(

 
 I have to assume I am missing the majick phrase to get all 
 the real info
 on this subject.
 
 So, my questions:
 Is anyone out there doing this with FreeBSD?
 Where the heck is the FM?
 
 BTW, the system in question is running xorg with FVWM 2.4.18 (from the
 ports), and will ultimately be running RELENG_5_3.
 
 TIA
 Lou
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/20/04 01:40 PM, Michael Clark sat at the `puter and typed:
  SNIP
  Searching the archives for dual monitor came up empty.
 
 XFree86 supported this, am I am sure Xorg does as well.  You just have
 to make some changes to the configuration and compile with Xinerama
 support.  I ran this setup on XFree86 for a long time.  I got all my
 information from XFree86.org and google on xinerama.  I dont have the
 computer here to post the config =(
  SNIP

Cool.  That has provided enough info to keep me busy until 5.3 is
released . . .

The time constraint is on the monitor special though.  It's the same on
I already have, but the vendor isn't going to have them at that price
much longer.

Do I need a second card, or is there an adaptor I can get to plug both
into the GeForce FX 5200s DVI port?

Thanks a million for the info.

Lou
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Peter Risdon
Louis LeBlanc wrote:
On 10/20/04 01:40 PM, Michael Clark sat at the `puter and typed:
I dont have the
computer here to post the config =(
You need two screen sections, two monitor sections and two device 
sections in the X config file.

If it helps, a working example follows:
# less /etc/X11/XF86Config
Section ServerLayout
Identifier Layout0
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  1  Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 Option   Clone off
  Option   Xinerama on
EndSection
Section Files
FontPath/usr/local/share/fonts
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
FontPath/usr/local/share/fonts/override
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-aleczapka-en
EndSection
Section Module
# Load freetype
# Load xtt
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  dri
Load  dbe
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  type1
Load  speedo
Load freetype
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol Auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
Option  XkbModel pc102
Option  XkbLayout gb
EndSection
Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
HorizSync30.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
EndSection
Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
HorizSync30.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  mga
ChipSet mgag400
Cardmga mgag400
BusID   pci:1:0:0
Screen  0
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Card1
Driver  mga
ChipSet mgag400
Cardmga mgag400
BusId   pci:1:0:0
Screen  1
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 24
Modes1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 
800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen1
Device Card1
MonitorMonitor1
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 24
Modes1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 
800x600
640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section DRI
Group0
EndSection

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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/20/04 08:09 PM, Peter Risdon sat at the `puter and typed:
 Louis LeBlanc wrote:
  On 10/20/04 01:40 PM, Michael Clark sat at the `puter and typed:
  I dont have the computer here to post the config =(
 
 You need two screen sections, two monitor sections and two device 
 sections in the X config file.
 
 If it helps, a working example follows:

That helps a ton.  Thank you *very* much.

I'm still curious about my last question though.  I suddenly realized I'm
not being entirely clear where there's room for misinterpretation.

I'm wondering at this point if I should go buy a second physical video
card to install into my tower.  Not whether I should configure in a
second card section in the X config.

I'm starting to think I won't, otherwise you'd probably have mentioned a
card section for each card, right?  So the physical hookup will have one
monitor plugged into the standard video port, and the second plugged
into the DVI port via an adaptor.  What adaptor would I be using?

Thanks again Peter.  Your config will probably save me a good bit of
frustration.

Lou
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/20/04 03:33 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed:
 On 10/20/04 08:09 PM, Peter Risdon sat at the `puter and typed:
  Louis LeBlanc wrote:
   On 10/20/04 01:40 PM, Michael Clark sat at the `puter and typed:
   I dont have the computer here to post the config =(
  
  You need two screen sections, two monitor sections and two device 
  sections in the X config file.
  
  If it helps, a working example follows:
 
 That helps a ton.  Thank you *very* much.
 
 I'm still curious about my last question though.  I suddenly realized
 I'm not being entirely clear where there's room for misinterpretation.
 
 I'm wondering at this point if I should go buy a second physical video
 card to install into my tower.  Not whether I should configure in a
 second card section in the X config.
 
 I'm starting to think I won't, otherwise you'd probably have mentioned
 a card section for each card, right?  So the physical hookup will have
 one monitor plugged into the standard video port, and the second
 plugged into the DVI port via an adaptor.  What adaptor would I be
 using?

Looks like I didn't read far enough down before replying.

Your config looks like I have to go shopping for another graphics card.

Not sure if I can even get the same one now.

Lou
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Robert Huff

Louis LeBlanc writes:

  Your config looks like I have to go shopping for another graphics
  card.
  
  Not sure if I can even get the same one now.

Though they're not state-of-the-market, Matrox (with I have
always had good results) made dual-headed cards based on the
G400/450 series.


Robert Huff





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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/20/04 03:49 PM, Robert Huff sat at the `puter and typed:
 
 Louis LeBlanc writes:
 
   Your config looks like I have to go shopping for another graphics
   card.
   
   Not sure if I can even get the same one now.
 
   Though they're not state-of-the-market, Matrox (with I have
 always had good results) made dual-headed cards based on the
 G400/450 series.

What makes a dual headed card?  My system invoice described the video
card as follows:

128MB DDR GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI 128FX52

So, I have a TV-Out *and* DVI port on this card.  I take it this isn't
the same, and I won't get the expected results by plugging the new
monitor into this port?

It just occurred to me that I do have onboard video, and that it should
be decent at least.  According to some of the reading I've already done,
the different video cards won't be a problem.

And, worst come to worst, I should be able trade (sshh! - she won't
miss it anyway!) the audio upgrade that wouldn't work in FreeBSD with my
wife's video upgrade (my audio upgrade was a modified SB Live card, and
she also has onboard video).  Her upgrade is the same card as mine -
different part number, but I suspect that simply reflects a lot number.

Cool.

But I do have to get a second card - the multiple outputs in this card
won't fit the bill, will it?

Lou
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Peter Giessel
On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, at 11:09AM, Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Section Device
 Identifier  Card0
[snip]
 BusID   pci:1:0:0
 Screen  0
EndSection

Section Device
 Identifier  Card1
[snip]
 BusId   pci:1:0:0
 Screen  1
EndSection

Notice both cards are using one PCI slot.  Its the same card.

All you need is one of these:
http://eshop.macsales.com/AddToBasket.cfm?ID=5313Item=MICDVIVGA

You should then be able to use the card you already have, just
plug both monitors into it.
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 20, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
What makes a dual headed card?
The card needs to have two RAMDACs, and two HD-15 VGA or DVI connectors.
My system invoice described the video card as follows:
128MB DDR GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI 128FX52
So, I have a TV-Out *and* DVI port on this card.  I take it this isn't
the same, and I won't get the expected results by plugging the new
monitor into this port?
The GeForce 5200 is (was?) the lowest-end model of the 5xxx series, 
somewhat comparible to the MX variants of the GF 2  3 lines.  I 
betcha the 5400 or higher has dual connections, assuming your card does 
not.

But I do have to get a second card - the multiple outputs in this card
won't fit the bill, will it?
Well, you can usually get an AGP and a PCI card to work at the same 
time; that will also give you two heads.

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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Frank Laszlo
Louis LeBlanc wrote:
What makes a dual headed card?  My system invoice described the video
card as follows:
128MB DDR GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI 128FX52
So, I have a TV-Out *and* DVI port on this card.  I take it this isn't
the same, and I won't get the expected results by plugging the new
monitor into this port?
It just occurred to me that I do have onboard video, and that it should
be decent at least.  According to some of the reading I've already done,
the different video cards won't be a problem.
And, worst come to worst, I should be able trade (sshh! - she won't
miss it anyway!) the audio upgrade that wouldn't work in FreeBSD with my
wife's video upgrade (my audio upgrade was a modified SB Live card, and
she also has onboard video).  Her upgrade is the same card as mine -
different part number, but I suspect that simply reflects a lot number.
Cool.
But I do have to get a second card - the multiple outputs in this card
won't fit the bill, will it?
Lou
 

Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It wont work, 
thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.
And yes, i had mine setup with a AGP card and the other was onboard, It 
worked like a charm. Hope this helps.

Regards,
   Frank
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed

2004-10-20 Thread Frank Jahnke
There are a number of ways to run dual monitors on FreeBSD,  Leaving out
the option of having the same desktop on each monitor (which is not very
interesting), they are:

Independent X sessions on each monitor.  This gives you two totally
independent screens, each with its own desktop.  Advantages: you can run
hardware acceleration on each (OpenGL, DRI, etc.).  Disadvantages: you
cannot drag windows from one screen to the other.  I find this annoying.

Xinerama. This spreads a single desktop over the two monitors. 
Advantages: a single desktop is wonderful.  Disadvantages: no 3D
hardware acceleration at all; software 3D only on the primary monitor,
and none on the secondary (I think).  Also, not all applications are
Xinerama-aware, so you sometimes get dialog boxes split between the
monitors (half on one, half on the other).  Of course, you can simply
drag the box onto one monitor or the other.

MergedFB. Like Xinerama, except that it uses a single frame buffer for
both screens (Xinerama uses one for each monitor).  Advantages: Hardware
acceleration is available.  Disadvantages: some fiddling with the
graphics drivers to get the windows to behave like Xinerama (for window
placement and resizing).

If you have no need for hardware acceleration, I recommend you try
Xinerama to see how you like it.  It may well be good enough.  If you do
need acceleration, it is your call on which of the other two options
would be better.

I don't know your graphics card, so I have no advice to offer here.  It
is possible to use two different graphics cards (the one you have, and
the one integrated onto your motherboard) but I've not tried that.  I
use an old Matrox G450 in MergedFB mode (still on XFree 4.3.0; this
should work on X.org as well).  It is no speed demon, but 2D quality is
nice, and speed is adequate for the few applications I have that require
OpenGL.

In addition to googling on Xinerama, try www.botchco.com/alex/dualhead
and www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml for information on MergedFB.

I have XF86Config files for all of these modes (for the G450); unless
there is general interest I'd suggest you contact me off-list to get
them if they would help.

And good luck!

Frank Jahnke



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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Peter Risdon
Frank Laszlo wrote:
[...]


 Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It wont work, 
thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.

I was under the impression that it won't work on both screens. But I 
think DRI does work on one. Hence the last bit of my X config:

Section DRI
Group0
EndSection
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Peter Risdon
Robert Huff wrote:
 Louis LeBlanc writes:


 Your config looks like I have to go shopping for another graphics
 card.

 Not sure if I can even get the same one now.



 Though they're not state-of-the-market, Matrox (with I have
 always had good results) made dual-headed cards based on the
 G400/450 series.
That's what I'm using, which is why the two sections are identical.
Look at Greg Lehey's website for an example config with two different cards.
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Robert Huff wrote:
  Louis LeBlanc writes:
 
 
  Your config looks like I have to go shopping for another graphics
  card.
 
  Not sure if I can even get the same one now.
 
 
 
  Though they're not state-of-the-market, Matrox (with I have
  always had good results) made dual-headed cards based on the
  G400/450 series.
That's what I'm using, which is why the two sections are identical.
Look at Greg Lehey's website for an example config with two different cards.
Peter.
--
I'm coming in late on this thread, and didn't see the original, so I 
don't know
if this was mentioned, but nVidia makes good cards that are dual head, 
and work
great with their binary drivers. 3d acceleration works as well, but 
only on one
monitor (whichever is your Primary display).

Ken
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread luke
you can always try an `X -configure` and see if the resulting
xorg.conf has 2 sections for cards. if it does, you will be fine with
a dvi to vga adapter. if not, you'll have to get another card. also,
it will depend on your motherboard whether you need an agp or pci
card. sometimes even if you have an agp slot on the board, the onboard
video is on the agp bus so putting the card in the agp slot will
disable the onboard video. good luck,

luke
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RE: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Kevin Glick
  Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It 
  wont work, thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.

I beg to differ, it works fine.  I used a GeForce MX440, with
dual VGA outputs to two 21 monitors, and ran many GL apps
across both monitors.  Quake 3 at 3200x1200 is pretty cool.

Kevin Glick
ITS Manager
Sterling Business Forms
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:33:06 -0400
Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/20/04 08:09 PM, Peter Risdon sat at the `puter and typed:
  Louis LeBlanc wrote:
   On 10/20/04 01:40 PM, Michael Clark sat at the `puter and typed:
   I dont have the computer here to post the config =(
  
  You need two screen sections, two monitor sections and two device 
  sections in the X config file.
  
  If it helps, a working example follows:
 
 That helps a ton.  Thank you *very* much.
 
 I'm still curious about my last question though.  I suddenly
 realized I'm not being entirely clear where there's room for
 misinterpretation.
 
 I'm wondering at this point if I should go buy a second physical
 video card to install into my tower.  Not whether I should configure
 in a second card section in the X config.

Depends on the card... I know I can handle three device on my fx5200(2
dsub 15 and 1 svideo), with iirc them all being able to have
seperates screens with out any of them being mirrored, but I would
still say it would be best to check up on the specific model you
have...

I looked at this awhile back, covering dsub15 connectors not D/A DVI
connectors. The problem I ran into was flaky info on this area. I was
wanting to find a card that would run doom3 nicely and run dual
monitor. I found I could easily have gotten a more powerful card than
a fx5200 and dvi to dsub15 converter for the less than the price of a
dual dsub15 fx5200. I got looking into it more and got lots of
conflicting into. I found a massive lack of useful specs on the cards
and chipsets... mainly in the area of what sort of DVI connector they
have on them... wether it is DVI A or D... and wether it was going to
be a mirror of the dsub connector or not. Among the older nvidia
cards, from what I can tell, the DVI connector was generally just a
mirror of the dsub15 connector.

 I'm starting to think I won't, otherwise you'd probably have
 mentioned a card section for each card, right?  So the physical
 hookup will have one monitor plugged into the standard video port,
 and the second plugged into the DVI port via an adaptor.  What
 adaptor would I be using?

See above :/

Looked into that when looking for a nice dual head card for my dual
boot box... I decided it would just be simpler to get a card with two
dsub15 connectors...

From a lot of googling I did back in july over this, I would not trust
it unless their are either two DVI or dsub15 connectors :/
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:22:11 -0400
Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 20, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
  What makes a dual headed card?
 
 The card needs to have two RAMDACs, and two HD-15 VGA or DVI
 connectors.
 
  My system invoice described the video card as follows:
 
  128MB DDR GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI
  128FX52
 
  So, I have a TV-Out *and* DVI port on this card.  I take it this
  isn't the same, and I won't get the expected results by plugging
  the new monitor into this port?

Depends on the card. On some one of them is mirrored on others it is
not.

 The GeForce 5200 is (was?) the lowest-end model of the 5xxx series, 
 somewhat comparible to the MX variants of the GF 2  3 lines.  I 
 betcha the 5400 or higher has dual connections, assuming your card
 does not.

Works good hear and runs doom3 nicely. :)
 
  But I do have to get a second card - the multiple outputs in this
  card won't fit the bill, will it?
 
 Well, you can usually get an AGP and a PCI card to work at the same 
 time; that will also give you two heads.

The nvidia driver, from my experience does not work on PCI cards on
4x so if you are not running 5x, this can be some what limiting if you
want opengl on both.
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-20 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:24:15 -0400
Frank Laszlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.
 And yes, i had mine setup with a AGP card and the other was onboard,
 It worked like a charm. Hope this helps.

Works on 5x :)
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