Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Chris


 From: Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
To: Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop
 


On Aug 29, 2012 8:44 AM, Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se wrote:

 Hi,


 I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please point me 
 to an existing resource if available.

 I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would like 
 to get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install), but I'm failling 
 as it has been at least 5 years since I used with wifi under FreeBSD. The 
 card is not automatically detected (interface not listed in ifconfig) so I'm 
 assuming I have to either load a kernel module or go the NDIS path. It seems 
 like on Windows, the same driver is used for E430, E435, E530 and E535, so 
 in case anyone is using one of these models, please let me know if have 
 things running.

 So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

 - How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can I read 
 it out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)?
   All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but doesn't 
 help me to find a driver. I
   Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers that I 
 can use that I can test?
 - If I need to use NDIS emulation, does anyone think it will work for this 
 model/card? Windows drivers can be found here 
 http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/default.page).
   The handbook 
 (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html#CONFIG-NETWORK-NDIS)
  says I need Win XP drivers, is that old text or do I need that? I can't 
 find XP drivers on the lenovo page...
 - If NDIS should be possible, how do I extract the .sys and .inf file from 
 the exe that I downloaded from the URL above (I don't have any Windows 
 machine right now).

 TIA,
   Chris

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hi, you can usually find replacement wifi cards for your model on ebay, this 
can give you an idea of the chipset. 
also, you could always pull off the panel and look at the card.
ndis can be tricky because it needs an older 32 bit driver, and you need to 
run a 32 bit version of FreeBSD.
a good solution is to find a ralink or atheros card on ebay and swap it out, 
usually will cost less than 10 bucks USD.
Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA




Hi Waltman, jb and Daniel,
(sorry for not replying to the latest email in the thread, something is wrong 
with my email account)

Thanks very much for the help, it is really appreciated.
I called Lenovo support and the only info they had was that it was an Intel 
card, so that's the same info as jb had tracked down (and I also found myself).

Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:

none3@pci0:3:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
class  = network


As per the release notes for 9.0 
(http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4) driver be 
the one to use.

Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the instructions in 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and rebooted.

if_bwn_load=YES
wlan_wep_load=YES
wlan_ccmp_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES


(also tried the bwi(4) driver instead of bwn)

I still don't get anything in dmesg or ifconfig. So either I have missed some 
step, or this specific card isn't supported by the bwn/bwi drivers.
Anyone have any further ideas?
If not, I'll try to track down some USB WLAN card that is supported, as I've 
also heard the same thing as Daniel, i.e. that non-Lenovo cards are blocked by 
the BIOS if you try to replace the default one.

BR,
  Chris
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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Chris wrote:


Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:

none3@pci0:3:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
class  = network


As per the release notes for 9.0 
(http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4) driver be 
the one to use.

Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the instructions in 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and rebooted.

if_bwn_load=YES
wlan_wep_load=YES
wlan_ccmp_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES


The last three are included in the GENERIC kernel.

The bwi and bwn drivers need firmware, which is provided by the 
net/bwi-firmware-kmod and net/bwn-firmware-kmod ports.  So install 
whichever is appropriate.  I think the driver tries to load the right
firmware automatically, but haven't tried a Broadcom in a while, and it 
might still be necessary to load the firmware module in 
/boot/loader.conf.

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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Chris


- Original Message -
 From: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
 To: Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Waitman 
 Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop
 
 On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Chris wrote:
 
  Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:
 
  none3@pci0:3:0:0:       class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4 
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
  vendor     = 'Broadcom Corporation'
  device     = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
  class      = network
 
 
  As per the release notes for 9.0 
 (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4) driver 
 be 
 the one to use.
 
  Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the instructions in 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and 
 rebooted.
 
  if_bwn_load=YES
  wlan_wep_load=YES
  wlan_ccmp_load=YES
  wlan_tkip_load=YES
 
 The last three are included in the GENERIC kernel.
 
 The bwi and bwn drivers need firmware, which is provided by the 
 net/bwi-firmware-kmod and net/bwn-firmware-kmod ports.  So install 
 whichever is appropriate.  I think the driver tries to load the right
 firmware automatically, but haven't tried a Broadcom in a while, and it 
 might still be necessary to load the firmware module in 
 /boot/loader.conf.
 ___
 

Hi Warren,


thanks. Tried with the firmware as well but no better luck. On closer 
inspection of the bwn manual, it seems like the 4313 is not on the list of 
suppored versions.

What I did find though was that it is supposedly possible to get working using 
NDIS (even with amd64) as per this PC-BSD wiki page 
http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Testing


I might try the NDIS, but will first see if I can find a USB card as the 'net 
seems to be full of talk about instability of the NDIS driver for the 4313.


Thanks to everyone for the help!


BR,

  Chris
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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Aug 30, 2012 7:17 AM, Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se wrote:



 - Original Message -
  From: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
  To: Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop
 
  On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Chris wrote:
 
   Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:
 
   none3@pci0:3:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4
  rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
   device = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
   class  = network
 
 
   As per the release notes for 9.0
  (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4)
driver be
  the one to use.
 
   Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the
instructions in
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and
rebooted.
 
   if_bwn_load=YES
   wlan_wep_load=YES
   wlan_ccmp_load=YES
   wlan_tkip_load=YES
 
  The last three are included in the GENERIC kernel.
 
  The bwi and bwn drivers need firmware, which is provided by the
  net/bwi-firmware-kmod and net/bwn-firmware-kmod ports.  So install
  whichever is appropriate.  I think the driver tries to load the right
  firmware automatically, but haven't tried a Broadcom in a while, and it
  might still be necessary to load the firmware module in
  /boot/loader.conf.
  ___
 

 Hi Warren,


 thanks. Tried with the firmware as well but no better luck. On closer
inspection of the bwn manual, it seems like the 4313 is not on the list of
suppored versions.

 What I did find though was that it is supposedly possible to get working
using NDIS (even with amd64) as per this PC-BSD wiki page
http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Testing


 I might try the NDIS, but will first see if I can find a USB card as the
'net seems to be full of talk about instability of the NDIS driver for the
4313.


 Thanks to everyone for the help!


 BR,

   Chris
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it would be cool if the 4313 worked, i've got a couple of those sitting
around here. ill check out that link, thanks. as far as usb goes, I
recommend an ralink based device, like older d_link dongles. (i think
anything new on the shelf is using atheros, usb support not working afaik)
... all the usb ralink devices I found on ebay work perfectly. (there are
even some that have a boosted range of 3km lol)

as far as the bios whitelist, I have an hp with that kind of problem. there
are several ways around it, but they are all dirty/suspect. luckily I found
an ralink that sailed through the detection. you should be able to find out
what lenovo sells as replacement parts to get an idea of what they /approve/

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California
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Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread Chris
Hi,


I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please point me to 
an existing resource if available.

I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would like to 
get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install), but I'm failling as it 
has been at least 5 years since I used with wifi under FreeBSD. The card is not 
automatically detected (interface not listed in ifconfig) so I'm assuming I 
have to either load a kernel module or go the NDIS path. It seems like on 
Windows, the same driver is used for E430, E435, E530 and E535, so in case 
anyone is using one of these models, please let me know if have things running.

So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

- How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can I read it 
out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)? 
  All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but doesn't 
help me to find a driver. I
  Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers that I can 
use that I can test?
- If I need to use NDIS emulation, does anyone think it will work for this 
model/card? Windows drivers can be found here 
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/default.page).
  The handbook 
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html#CONFIG-NETWORK-NDIS)
 says I need Win XP drivers, is that old text or do I need that? I can't find 
XP drivers on the lenovo page...
- If NDIS should be possible, how do I extract the .sys and .inf file from the 
exe that I downloaded from the URL above (I don't have any Windows machine 
right now).

TIA,
  Chris

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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Aug 29, 2012 8:44 AM, Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se wrote:

 Hi,


 I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please point
me to an existing resource if available.

 I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would
like to get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install), but I'm
failling as it has been at least 5 years since I used with wifi under
FreeBSD. The card is not automatically detected (interface not listed in
ifconfig) so I'm assuming I have to either load a kernel module or go the
NDIS path. It seems like on Windows, the same driver is used for E430,
E435, E530 and E535, so in case anyone is using one of these models, please
let me know if have things running.

 So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

 - How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can I
read it out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)?
   All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but
doesn't help me to find a driver. I
   Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers that
I can use that I can test?
 - If I need to use NDIS emulation, does anyone think it will work for
this model/card? Windows drivers can be found here
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/default.page).
   The handbook (
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html#CONFIG-NETWORK-NDIS)
says I need Win XP drivers, is that old text or do I need that? I can't
find XP drivers on the lenovo page...
 - If NDIS should be possible, how do I extract the .sys and .inf file
from the exe that I downloaded from the URL above (I don't have any Windows
machine right now).

 TIA,
   Chris

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hi, you can usually find replacement wifi cards for your model on ebay,
this can give you an idea of the chipset.

also, you could always pull off the panel and look at the card.

ndis can be tricky because it needs an older 32 bit driver, and you need
to run a 32 bit version of FreeBSD.

a good solution is to find a ralink or atheros card on ebay and swap it
out, usually will cost less than 10 bucks USD.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA
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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread jb
Chris devnullaccount at yahoo.se writes:

 ...

 I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would like
 to get the Wifi card running
 (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install)
 ...

http://support.lenovo.com/en_GB/product-and-parts/detail.page?DocID=PD024684
Communications
Network

ThinkPad 1x1 11b/g/n PCIe Half Mini Card
ThinkPad 11b/g/n PCIe Half Mini Card
1x1 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo adapter
Intel Centrino® Wireless-N 2230
2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo adapter
Bluetooth 4.0 wireless

There is a product ref file:
http://www.lenovo.com/psref/
http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/edgebook.pdf
search for E530 3259.

These entries will be probably useless, but here they are:
$ dmesg -a | less
$ dmesg | grep -i wireless 

Example:
$ pciconf -lv |grep -i wireless
...
wpi0@pci0:3:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x42278086 rev=0x02
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection'
class  = network
...

Note: that wpi in top line is a driver name.

$ lshal |grep -i wireless

I searched Google but no luck.

Get a recent Live CD or DVD from any Linux distro (Knoppix, Fedora, etc).

jb


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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread Daniel Staal

On 2012-08-29 11:42, Chris wrote:

Hi,


I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please
point me to an existing resource if available.

I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and
would like to get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install),
but I'm failling as it has been at least 5 years since I used with
wifi under FreeBSD. The card is not automatically detected (interface
not listed in ifconfig) so I'm assuming I have to either load a 
kernel

module or go the NDIS path. It seems like on Windows, the same driver
is used for E430, E435, E530 and E535, so in case anyone is using one
of these models, please let me know if have things running.

So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

- How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can
I read it out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)?
  All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but
doesn't help me to find a driver. I
  Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers
that I can use that I can test?


There's a couple of different Wifi options for that machine, so which 
one you have may make a difference.  There looks to be some information 
on identifying which card you have here:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Wireless_Network_Adapters
(Though they don't have your model listed yet, I think it's a new 
model...)


I'm guessing you probably have a 'Thinkpad' card, which recently has 
been Realtek, but you'd have to check that.  Note that replacing it with 
a generic mini-PCI wireless card may not work: Lenovo has been known to 
have their BIOS only recognize 'official' replacement parts.


Daniel T. Staal

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