Re: cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-30 Thread Adam J Richardson

Steve Franks wrote:

Don,

I notice a earlier poster mentioned >  > work very well with ndisgen.

I think you've been misled.  That means you have to go thru several
manual steps to smash the windows drivers into something freebsd can
use.  Ugly, in my opinion.  If you want it to work 'out of the box',
go back and buy a card with a prisim/orinoco or atheros chipset.  If
you want to make your existing dongle work, look for ndisgen in the
handbook in the 'wireless networking' section.

Steve


Hi Steve.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'misled'. I'm not relating someone else's 
experiences. I really have had very good results with Project 
Evil/ndisgen. Those cards I mentioned can function perfectly well.


Though I note the TNET1130, just to spite me, has stopped working since 
I upgraded to 6.2-RELEASE-p7. Maybe I need to re-Evil it.


You're right that shoehorning XP drivers into BSD is painful. It's 
annoying to find the XP driver, then copy it to FAT to copy it to UFS, 
then wrap it with ndisgen. After that, it functions like any other 
driver ["sudo kldload if_ndis", etc].


Native drivers would be better. I don't have the experience to write 
them though. Project Evil is better than nothing, specially if it works 
well. Actually this whole discussion might well be moot, because in the 
specific case of the F5D7051, native drivers are coming in the form of 
[if I read correctly] if_ural and if_rum.


Btw, my last email implied that the F5D7051 is based on the TNET1130 
chipset. That was wrong. Apologies. It's actually a Broadcom chip.


Regards,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Franks
Don,

I notice a earlier poster mentioned >  > work very well with ndisgen.

I think you've been misled.  That means you have to go thru several
manual steps to smash the windows drivers into something freebsd can
use.  Ugly, in my opinion.  If you want it to work 'out of the box',
go back and buy a card with a prisim/orinoco or atheros chipset.  If
you want to make your existing dongle work, look for ndisgen in the
handbook in the 'wireless networking' section.

Steve

On 8/16/07, Don Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Adam:
>
> Adam J Richardson writes:
>  > Don Hinton wrote:
>  > > Could someone recommend a good (and
>  > > cheap) one that's includes a/b/g*/n and is supported, either natively
>  > > or via ndis?
>  >
>  > Hi Don,
>  >
>  > I can heartily recommend any card based on the TNET1130 chipset. They
>  > work very well with ndisgen. Examples include the Add-on Tech GWP-100
>  > and the Belkin F5D7 series, such as the F5D7051 USB key or the F5D7000
>  > cardbus card. They're all cheap. They do "a", "b" and "g". I'm not sure
>  > about "n", though.
>
> I picked up a Belkin F5D7050, but can seem to figure out how to get it
> to work.  I'm obviously missing something.
>
> $ dmesg
> 
> ugen0:  on uhub6
>
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD localhost 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #5: Mon Aug 13 16:23:35 UTC 
> 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HP_SMP  i386
>
> I've compiled the following in my kernel, per man ural:
>
> device  wlan# 802.11 support
> device  wlan_amrr   # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm
> device  uhci# UHCI PCI->USB interface
> device  ohci# OHCI PCI->USB interface
> device  ehci# EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
> device  usb # USB Bus (required)
> device  ural# Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs
>
> But don't see a ural device getting created.  It's hard to tell from
> the package, but I suspect it's a version problem.  There's a small
> sticker on the bottom of the box that has "00173FAFD030 ver. 4000"
> printed on it.  But the part number just says FD7050.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> thanks...
> don
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Re: cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-16 Thread Don Hinton
Hi Adam:

Adam J Richardson writes:
 > Don Hinton wrote:
 > > Could someone recommend a good (and
 > > cheap) one that's includes a/b/g*/n and is supported, either natively
 > > or via ndis?
 > 
 > Hi Don,
 > 
 > I can heartily recommend any card based on the TNET1130 chipset. They 
 > work very well with ndisgen. Examples include the Add-on Tech GWP-100 
 > and the Belkin F5D7 series, such as the F5D7051 USB key or the F5D7000 
 > cardbus card. They're all cheap. They do "a", "b" and "g". I'm not sure 
 > about "n", though.

I picked up a Belkin F5D7050, but can seem to figure out how to get it
to work.  I'm obviously missing something.

$ dmesg

ugen0:  on uhub6

$ uname -a
FreeBSD localhost 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #5: Mon Aug 13 16:23:35 UTC 
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HP_SMP  i386

I've compiled the following in my kernel, per man ural:

device  wlan# 802.11 support
device  wlan_amrr   # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm
device  uhci# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device  ohci# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device  ehci# EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
device  usb # USB Bus (required)
device  ural# Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs

But don't see a ural device getting created.  It's hard to tell from
the package, but I suspect it's a version problem.  There's a small
sticker on the bottom of the box that has "00173FAFD030 ver. 4000"
printed on it.  But the part number just says FD7050.

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks...
don
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Re: cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson

Don Hinton wrote:

Could someone recommend a good (and
cheap) one that's includes a/b/g*/n and is supported, either natively
or via ndis?


Hi Don,

I can heartily recommend any card based on the TNET1130 chipset. They 
work very well with ndisgen. Examples include the Add-on Tech GWP-100 
and the Belkin F5D7 series, such as the F5D7051 USB key or the F5D7000 
cardbus card. They're all cheap. They do "a", "b" and "g". I'm not sure 
about "n", though.


HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Franks
On 8/9/07, Don Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I recently purchased a new HP dv9500t laptop.  Unfortunately, the
> Intel 4965AGN wireless card it came with isn't supported (yet).  I
> tried to use ndisgen, but it caused a panic (both 6.2 and
> 7.0-current).

I'm afraid you are in big trouble with a name-brand laptop.  You
cannot put a non-vendor approved minipci card in it without the bios
locking you out.  I tried no less than 3 different cards before I
Google'd it and found this is a common problem - bios checks the
vendor id or somesuch and won't even boot the bios config screen until
you take the card out.  I read this happends with HP, Dell, everyone.
FIrst it was the recording industry, not laptop vendors.  Next you're
going to have to pay a yearly fee for them to even boot.

Get a nice PCMCIA or USB card with an Atheros or Prism (and some
Realtek - just got burned with a new realtek, however)  chipset and
you're good to go.  I have a $35 store-brand card from OfficeMax that
works like a charm - my HP laptop has a broadcomm in it, and I'm
running amd64 - supposedly the 64 bit broadcomm drivers don't even
work with Vista - big panic ndiswrapping them - gave up.  Just Google
the part number and chipset before you buy it.

Steve
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cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-09 Thread Don Hinton
Hi:

I recently purchased a new HP dv9500t laptop.  Unfortunately, the
Intel 4965AGN wireless card it came with isn't supported (yet).  I
tried to use ndisgen, but it caused a panic (both 6.2 and
7.0-current).

Since I'd like to continue using FreeBSD as my desktop (laptop) OS,
and need wireless access, I've decided to pick up a temporary PCMCIA
wireless card in the meantime.  Could someone recommend a good (and
cheap) one that's includes a/b/g*/n and is supported, either natively
or via ndis?

thanks in advance...
don
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