Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, kron24 wrote: It works here. Can we see your xorg.conf? When you built xorg-server, did you enable hal support? Yes, built with default options (including HAL). My xorg.conf is below. The machine is too weak to run my desktop, I use it only to test things: CPU: VIA Samuel 2 (532.64-MHz 686-class CPU) graphics: vendor = 'Trident Microsystems' device = 'Via Tech VT8361/VT8601 Graphics Controller (VT8361)' I don't mind the hangs with dbus+hal - I don't use them, I enabled them just to test OP's problem. Purely and simply, it is much less responsive with dbus+hal. It often takes seconds to see what I typed in a terminal emulator. Maybe the box is just underpowered for dbus+hal, I can live with that :-) BR, Oli Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Just now I added Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" to my xorg.conf, and it becomes draggy and slow on input. Your alternate keyboard layouts complicate the situation with hal. I've seen that discussed here; a search might be useful. A 500 MHz VIA should be plenty fast enough to run one of the lighter X desktops (xfce4). -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
Dne 25.9.2009 19:55, Warren Block napsal(a): On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, kron24 wrote: Dne 25.9.2009 14:32, William Bulley napsal(a): According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Fri, 09/25/09 at 03:32: I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them and choose 'open'). [edit] The same problem on my test machine: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 xfce-4.6.1 xorg-7.4_2 I usually run it without dbus+hal and it works fine. With dbus+hal enabled (just for the sake of test) I experienced the same hangs. It works here. Can we see your xorg.conf? When you built xorg-server, did you enable hal support? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Yes, built with default options (including HAL). My xorg.conf is below. The machine is too weak to run my desktop, I use it only to test things: CPU: VIA Samuel 2 (532.64-MHz 686-class CPU) graphics: vendor = 'Trident Microsystems' device = 'Via Tech VT8361/VT8601 Graphics Controller (VT8361)' I don't mind the hangs with dbus+hal - I don't use them, I enabled them just to test OP's problem. Purely and simply, it is much less responsive with dbus+hal. It often takes seconds to see what I typed in a terminal emulator. Maybe the box is just underpowered for dbus+hal, I can live with that :-) BR, Oli Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/urwfonts-ttf/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/gentium/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "xtrap" Load "dri" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbLayout" "us,cz" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName"Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "trident" VendorName "Trident Microsystems" BoardName "CyberBlade/i1" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" EndSection ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, kron24 wrote: Dne 25.9.2009 14:32, William Bulley napsal(a): According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Fri, 09/25/09 at 03:32: I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them and choose 'open'). [edit] The same problem on my test machine: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 xfce-4.6.1 xorg-7.4_2 I usually run it without dbus+hal and it works fine. With dbus+hal enabled (just for the sake of test) I experienced the same hangs. It works here. Can we see your xorg.conf? When you built xorg-server, did you enable hal support? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
Dne 25.9.2009 14:32, William Bulley napsal(a): According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Fri, 09/25/09 at 03:32: I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them and choose 'open'). I, too, have seen this same problem, but with OpenMotif (mwm) as my window manager. I have solved the problem by changing the lines: dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" to dbus_enable="NO" hald_enable="NO" in my /etc/rc.conf file. This makes things in xorg-7.4_2 and open-motif-2.2.3_6 and 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 15 14:33:54 EDT 2009 work for me. The same problem on my test machine: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 xfce-4.6.1 xorg-7.4_2 I usually run it without dbus+hal and it works fine. With dbus+hal enabled (just for the sake of test) I experienced the same hangs. BR, Oli ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
Hi William, thank you very much for your reply. I believe, though, that if you disable hal and dbus in rc.conf, then you are not using them at all (the corresponding daemons don't start up at boot time). For me too the window managers work fine *without* hal/dbus, but I was trying to get these working. best, giuseppe On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM, William Bulley wrote: > According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Fri, 09/25/09 at 03:32: >> >> I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports >> updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite >> spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot >> make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or >> xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: >> >> hald_enable="YES" >> dbus_enable="YES" >> >> both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was >> trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take >> *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on >> the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all >> in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them >> and choose 'open'). > > I, too, have seen this same problem, but with OpenMotif (mwm) as my > window manager. I have solved the problem by changing the lines: > > dbus_enable="YES" > hald_enable="YES" > > to > > dbus_enable="NO" > hald_enable="NO" > > in my /etc/rc.conf file. This makes things in xorg-7.4_2 and > open-motif-2.2.3_6 > and 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 15 14:33:54 EDT 2009 work for > me. > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley Email: w...@umich.edu > > 72 characters width template ->| > -- Giuseppe Pagnoni Dip. Scienze Biomediche Sezione Fisiologia Univ. di Modena e Reggio Emilia Via Campi 287 I-41100 Modena, Italy Tel: +39-059-205-5742 Fax: +39-059-205-5363 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
According to Giuseppe Pagnoni on Fri, 09/25/09 at 03:32: > > I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports > updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite > spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot > make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or > xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: > > hald_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > > both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was > trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take > *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on > the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all > in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them > and choose 'open'). I, too, have seen this same problem, but with OpenMotif (mwm) as my window manager. I have solved the problem by changing the lines: dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" to dbus_enable="NO" hald_enable="NO" in my /etc/rc.conf file. This makes things in xorg-7.4_2 and open-motif-2.2.3_6 and 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 15 14:33:54 EDT 2009 work for me. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: w...@umich.edu 72 characters width template ->| ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
dbus/hal in freebsd 7.2 hangs X11
Hi all, I am trying to use hal/dbus on a i386 machine with FreeBSD 7.2 (ports updated to the latest tree snapshot as of yesterday), but despite spending a full day looking up the handbook, faq, and google, I cannot make it work properly. More specifically, when I use either xfce4 or xmonad after having enabled dbus/hald in rc.conf: hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" both window managers become very unresponsive and hang as if hal was trying to access/mount something. For example, the terminal may take *seconds* to display typed in characters and in xfce if you click on the desktop icons for home directory etc., they don't open up at all in the thunar file manager (they do though, if you right click on them and choose 'open'). I read on the freebsd/gnome/halfaq that you should not have in your /etc/fstab entries that are supposed to be used by hal, so I commented out the lines for cdrom and flash USB drive in fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# /dev/ad6s1b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad6s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad6s1e /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad6s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad6s1d /varufs rw 2 2 #/dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 # Changed the above for the following (ATAPI-CAM) #/dev/cd0 /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 #/dev/da0s1 /mnt/flash msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0 # For linux compat linproc/usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 # For VirtualBox, truss(1) proc/proc procfs rw 00 However, this produces no improvement. Also, following the instruction in the mentioned FAQ, I added the following lines to the /usr/local/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf file: alas, with no improvement either... Before trying to use hal (which I needed for VirtualBox), I had changed system settings for making the flash USB drive and CD-rom user mountable, following the instructions in the handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/usb-disks.html that is: 1) adding myself to the operator group 2) adding the following lines to /etc/devfs.rules [localrules=5] add path 'cd*' mode 0660 group operator [localrules=6] add path 'da*' mode 0660 group operator 3) enable devfs.rules(5) in /etc/rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" 4) adding the line to /etc/sysctl.conf vfs.usermount=1 5) create user accessible mount points: mkdir /mnt/cdrom /mnt/flash chown giuseppe:giuseppe /mnt/cdrom /mnt/flash It seems to me that this should not have any relevance for the misbehavior of hal/dbus, but I am reporting it here just in case there is some weird interaction that I am not aware of. I am kind of stumped at this point, I would be very grateful is somebody has any suggestion to share. thanks in advance! giuseppe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
